edie sedgwick tells a story.

[MowgliX]

Edie refused to do "Shower" because it required her to be nude.

[DaBestTwilightFan]

@pauliestarr

That a true story you posted??? just wondered because i think it was such a loss what happened to edie! its just so sad! but i bet it was amazing to meet someone who was around then

[MowgliX]

@pauliestarr Wow, that's really interesting!

[kangax]

misbegotten, misguided, miserable youth ... her reliance on her image to market herself is pitiful at least ... not to mention shallow ...

[xXPinkGoddessXx]

@kangax Edie had no "image" to market. She was only famous for being herself.

[kangax]

a scumbag

[circethesorceress]

where'd you get this footage? lucky. :)

[MowgliX]

Is she talking about that semi-pornographic movie that never got made - I know Chuck Wein was involved in that - or something to do with Albert Grossman or Bob Neuwirth, Bob Dylan's associates? She was in touch with some pretty awful people.

[glossy104]

it was all about the soup, that's all. The rest is just hopeless 1960's/retro romanticism. More soup anybody, there's just sooooo much common soup!

[MowgliX]

@glossy104 Well, you don't have to watch it if you don't appreciate it.

[glossy104]

@MowgliX  yeah, ok, see the thing is, you have to watch it, even if only to know you don't appreciate. Anyone for Catch 22 then??????

[MowgliX]

@glossy104 Hehe, but you returned, didn't you? ;) To me, she is the epitome of the silver 1960s, and a legendary person. A very, very beautiful girl who happened to be intelligent and graceful, but very poor at handling her life, drugs and money. Edie died so young, only 28, which was sad but perhaps predetermined and for the best. Another 30 years on this planet would have been mostly suffering for her, as she probably would have spent that time in mental hospitals. It was all very tragic.

[aoifenicsheain]

Andy was a direct contributor. He invited her to his factory. That's where she had her first introduction to hard drugs. This is well documented. Check her imdb info.

[desertshore]

@aoifenicsheain Edie did hard drugs in college (acid, etc.)

[TheSZimmer]

Nobody puts Edie in a corner.

[xXPinkGoddessXx]

Sorry, but nobody should be blamed for anyone else's suicide with the exception of extremely abusive circumstances. Disliking how one's career has turned out as a result of a director is not enough to turn even a half-mentally stable person off the edge.

[desertshore]

@xXPinkGoddessXx that is soo true, PG.

[WholeLottaGreer]

"Factory girl is historically accurate in every way, and I really enjoyed it!" - Lying Liar.

[jarileigh]

Also, the beauty of Edie is that she made the MOST of what she had, people don't realize this because she appears on the outside to be a beautiful heiress, perfect on the outside, but mortally wounded emotionally & mentally from childhood on the inside.Life is not easy because your family has money & status& you are beautiful! Edie did VERY well with what she had to deal with! I think when Andy said that she was the original Poor Little Rich Girl, that pretty much says it all.

[jarileigh]

This clip to me shows the real beauty of Edie, her ability to laugh at bad situations, her poise & grace in ANY situation! After being brutally abused by her Father and losing two out of three brothers to suicide, she was a old soul who was strong yet very vulnerable. Jonathan, the 3rd brother, was/is burnt on drugs, if he said anything positive about Factory Girl either he didn't know any better, or he was just glad that a movie was being made with Edie's name in it! The movie is BULL****!

[jarileigh]

Edie's brother Jonathan lived in CA, he was no where NEAR Edie during her time in NYC and has no idea what happened there! Factory Girl is responsibly for promoting all these insane ideas that Warhol & the Factory destroyed her. Warhol had a reputation for using people & he used Edie, but that was a fly in the ointment for Edie, her real problems were with her insane Father, who admitted on his death bed that he was responsible for his kids problems, including two suicides!!!!

[XxOhMYGOTH42xX]

God I love her voice... I dont know what it is.... but i just love her voice

[giannireb68]

Those eyes and that voice. Witchcraft. If she had been one of her ancestors in New England in the 1600's they would have burned her.

[XxOhMYGOTH42xX]

Oh so true!! How sweet is the evil of the world?

[siouxie921]

This audio is not the original soundtrack, either that or it's playing at wrong speed.  Edie was buzzing in Poor LIttle Rich Girl (excerpted here), but on this audio she sounds like she took a whole bunch of downers.

[twiggbones]

the actual video is from andys film poor little rich girl, but the audio is from the last movie edie did called ciao manhatten

[humdrum99]

Personally, I hate the feeling of being too sedated in the bathtub. You might break something getting out. Luckily, when the sun rises the next day, everything is bright and shiny and simple again.

[MaribelSantoyo]

~ Haunting ~ Beautiful

[adriantrench]

where did you get this audio? there seems to be a lot of extra audio recordings floating around on youtube that weren't put in ciao manhattan. they should've included the complete tapes on the dvd.

[saranghaeyo2326]

does EVERYONE think Sienna's acting was brilliant in Factory Girl?! I never knew anything about Edie Sedgwick before the movie, but I just feel really distanced by the way Sienna plays her. Like she doesn't seem real at all. And it's hard for me to believe her story- about her childhood and stuff. Sienna just makes me not care about her at all. I dunno. Does everyone really think she was that great??

[desertshore]

why discuss sienna at all when THE REAL edie is unspooling??

[saranghaeyo2326]

because i was reading the comments and that's what people were saying

[desertshore]

well i agree with your opinion. "FG" was a generic "re-telling." for me it lost all Cred when i heard the Olsen Twins had been cast in it haha

[bulabula80]

they were?

[desertshore]

yes but fortunately they were edited out. they were pizzed :)

[MissJagUR]

I thought Sienna was excellent, especially when you hear these original recordings. Remember Sienna normally speaks with an English accent. I think she did an incredible job and was very believable. Even Edie's brother said he thought he was watching his sister when he saw Sienna acting. That says a lot!

[ashdruan]

sienna did awesome....its weird because when i saw the movie, i thought she was amazing... then i was intrigued.. soo i researched the real edie and found that .yes sienna was good but i think a couple actresses could have been better...suchas jenifer garnier or kiera knightly!!!

[leopxt1974]

Keira maybe, Jenifer could never pull it off... I think she is a mediocre actress.

[damienxxxpele]

edie has such a beautiful voice

andy was a riot! i mean really he never cared really about her so i don't think her did anything intentional to her. he got bored so it cannot be andy's fault she fell the way she did and regardless edie got help got better and then died. andy had nothing to do with it

[caramerica]

whos better edie or marilyn m?

[impyrse27]

edie

[luvfairy18]

Andy Warhol was a piece of shit human being... life sucker and opportunist!

Eddie may have let herself be led into that lifestyle but she was naive and opened her heart to a man whom she thought was her friend, but who in reality was just a psychotic/low self esteem bastard who only saw her for her money and the opportunities he had with her, he used her and abused her then got rid of her just as easily!

YES people ANDY WARHOL WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A PIECE OF SHIT!

[desertshore]

hmmm amdy didn't "get rid of her," she left on her accord to make a movie "with bobby." get your facts straight, and tone down the language.

[sosad2b]

My heart goes out to Edie! She was loured into a life of drugs (METH,SPEED,ACID,HEROIN ETC) was rapped sexually, mentally and emotionally. Andy W. was nothing but a "Vampire" sucking the life out of his Factory Friends..He had no talent, no vision, no heart! He was just a speed junkie that had crazy ideas..just like satan himself! God bless Edie and my her soul finally rest in Gods hands!

[gina888warhol1]

edie was sweet and tragic yet you cant blame it on andy

[impyrse27]

how can you be mentally raped?

[alana1919]

have you ever looked up the definition for "metaphor"? Most people don't need to.

[xXPinkGoddessXx]

Andy was never a speed junkie, and If you think crazy ideas are symptomatic of evil, I feel sorry for you.

Edie was not "lured" into a destructive cycle of drug use any more than everyone around her was. Yet why doesn't anyone ever victimise for instance, Nico, in the same way? Andy once noted Edie's ability to make anyone sympathise with her. Well, decades after her death, she's still doing it. It's hard not to feel protective, but pointing the finger at those who didn't fall victim is unfair.

[taty4ever]

I think it's cuz Nico was a much more strong person. Who was obessed by death.... and lived her life the way she wanted too.... Edie was a fragile person. And Andy Warhol did use her.... and he got ingrid superstar to humilate her and keep in her check so they could show she was easy to replace. Yes... he did not give her the drugs..but he did know what buttons to press. And another star of his Andrea Something... she commites suicide because of him... No one really knows much about Andy

[xXPinkGoddessXx]

I hardly think the latest Warhol superstar was an issue of any importance to Edie, much less something she was aware of. The Factory to her was just another hangout. Edie lived her life the way she wanted as well, and perhaps this had a lot to do with her downfall. She certainly had serious concerns like her mental health, drug abuse, physical accidents, and family issues, but Andy was not a direct contributor to any of them.

[desertshore]

@taty4ever Andrea Feldman was EXTREMELY crazy before she arrived @ the Factory. @ the time of her suicide she was completely acid-baked (see the film "Heat" to see what shape she was in.)

[taty4ever]

Maybe she was acid baked. But it seems that fragile people with money.... came to the factory and were used. Andrea Feldman had money. Yes she was crazy but she had money. Andy Warhol was very superficial and maybe he was weak but he had so many people around him to do his dirty work. Honestly i don't care about Andy... And i find it funny how everyone defends him. When he did fuck up so many lives.

[desertshore]

@taty4ever Andy merely provided a forum/creative hub for lives that were already fucked-up.

[nblumer]

@desertshore

True, they were messed up but what did he do to help them? He preyed on messed up creative figures by selling them an easy, illusionary kind of fame and never took any responsibility for them. He would watch them unravel and then throw them away. What was his response when told Edie died? Edie Who?

[desertshore]

@nblumer it was paul morrissey who said that, according 2 gerard malanga, NOT andy.

[MowgliX]

@taty4ever Andy Warhol never forced anybody to do anything. These people were adults, they had their own free will to do what ever they wanted in life. If they chose to take amphetamines or heroin, and if they chose death and not life, it's their decision. I don't see how you can blame Andy Warhol for what happened to these people.

[sugarlancome]

Andy Warhol was a mental idiot, and was a mean evil person!. Poor Edie she did not deserve this kind of treatment from a so called "Friend". Edie suffered so much in her life, and I think like most people, she wanted to be happy.

[gina888warhol1]

you are soooooo ignorant

[gina888warhol1]

how can one get lupe?

[WhiteNacho]

I concour with azaroo22 Factory Girl is a really well made film about Edies life with Andy and The Factory. She was also born and raised in Santa Barbara. That I did not know.

[Jenanneleigh]

It's not very historically accurate though

[azaroo22]

well watch factory girl cos its all about edie sedgewick's relationship with andy warhol and of how she had her downfall..sienna miller plays her so well its amazing!

[ketrin55]

and she even imitates edie´s voice very well in that movie

[brifh16]

though factory girl was quite enjoyable just let it be known that several things within it are factually incorrect. And I agree Sienna did play her very well.

[desertshore]

that's an understatement (to the entire comment)

[memoe0081]

a good read is Edie - American Girl. It's a biography based upon only interviews with people from the circle. Very interesting. Most of the info for the film was taken from this book, although- there was artistic license, as with all movies.

factory girl is not meant to be a biography, though you wouldn't know that off the cuff. rent it and watch and with director's commentary. Super Interesting!

[crazyangelly]

i'd like to encourage this 'carezzza' to right her book, she says she knew some of the Warhol croud and wanted to write a book about the 70's and all the people she knew then.I'd read it if it's for real.

[desertshore]

i think carezza left the building.

[bianca38]

She's long gone. But read the book Edie, an American Girl to get all the ins and outs about her rollercoast of a life.

[jack2breeze]

theres a character inspired by her in the movie "I`m Not There" about Bob Dylan.

[TheMetka]

what character?

[jack2breeze]

createforlife8 is right i forgot to put the names down.

[createforlife8]

The character is CoCo Rivington played by Michelle Williams

[foreveranahera]

I've got 'Girl On Fire" which is all about Edie, anyone that loves her should read it. All the pictures you can't get off the internet are in it. It's amazing!

[lilmisssunshinenyc]

You can get Ciao Manhattan on DVD at Barnes & Noble. There are several books about Edie Sedgwick, and you can find most of them at bookstores or order them online. One is out of print and would need to be obtained through a used book store. They are all fascinating, though, and highly recommended.

[talldarkmann]

that sounds like a book alot of us would read carezza...you should do it!!

[desertshore]

kool komment! thanx for it :)

[kuhlela]

Are there any copies of Ciao! Manhattan?  I would love love love to see it. Are there any books about Edie's life?

[thisisthebestsnever]

you can get it on netflix.

[WickedWildStylesDead]

Yup "Edie - An American Biography" Jean Stein

[carezzza]

I guess Andy invented reality TV.

[desertshore]

totally. he let people live their lives on cam

[carezzza]

Yeah, I know. I was sort of thinking aloud. I knew a lot of the Warhol crowd.

[desertshore]

really? do tell! (or message me)

[carezzza]

It's a bit too much to tell. I fell in with a lot of people from that scene in the early 70s: Eric Emerson, Nico, Rene Ricard, Danny Fields, Lou Reed, Jackie Curtis, Holly Woodlawn, Taylor Meade and a lot of others. I may write a book about the 70s, if I can ever figure out who would want to read it.

[desertshore]

sounds fascinating! i bet lotsa peeps wood reed it :)

[Scabrinastep]

there are hundreds of us i am sure! please do, i adore nico

[Twiggy1108]

I would definitly read it. would it focus on just he 70's or the 60's as well, because Edie Sedgwick was really more 60's. she did her last film in 1970 i believe

[cortexvisual]

He just forgot to pay the final prize to the winner...

[shatterdwing]

She must have felt terribley alone during this time,well..from what i hear.

[edielover]

i have jean steins bio too!

[iwearblueshoes]

After reading Jean Stein's bio and hearing the various accounts of others who knew Edie during her Warhol year and after, I have to question exactly how close to the truth many of these fantastic tales of hers in "Ciao! Manhattan" (the non-scripted parts, that is) actually are. Still an interesting story, though, as always.