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  • She's a liar and con

  • sorry to hear Starfire is pushing these bizarre baseless opinions about Shelley!

  • So good to hear this moving story behind FTG!!! Thank-you Samoiya for your heart, wisdom and humor. I was part of the 07 one and am eagerly looking forward to being part of 11-11-11. One hour of mass joy given as a gift for our planet and our world. So simple! So GOOD!

    Thank-you Cutlassfilm for posting this.

  • didnt realize starfiretor was a zombie I blocked you on facebook starfiretor

  • loves to talk doesnt she, misreable and angry. Yeah still self absorbed, what the story besides listen to me spout off?

  • Bless you Shelly for opening your heart and for your courage to speak your truth.

    Wake up to the illusion! Who created who? And why? The fear was introduced to capture your very souls! The so called ‘devil’ was introduced to do the same thing. Who created him? A God of Love??? Think about these things with these brains that you have been given on this journey. Use them wisely. Listen to your inner guidance. A God of Love creating/allowing a vision with horns and a pointed tail that will .....

  • Shelly Yates one of Satans Own!!!

  • @oleainatoivo Satan does not exist. Hell does, on earth - manifested in fear and misery of human beings. I wish you all the best and hope you can overcome your fear.

  • @cielia9000 My only fear is for the ones who don't find their way to their maker , now is the time to know him through his son Jesus Christ. I do NOT fear Satan, I Repel him!!!

  • hihÌ_aÑY_guýs_wãNt_to_chåt_wÍt­h_mÈ

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  • Shelley PLEASE TELL US IF ARAMIS HAS COME BACK AND HOW YOU ARE GOING AND WHAT IS HAPPENING. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

  • please en español? where?

    thank you

    un abrazo

  • Shelley Yates: Experiencia Cercana a la Muerte 1/3

  • How interesting. Here she says she was going to a friend's house to complain, yet back in '02 she said that she was taking her son over to see a playmate at one of her friend's houses. Her report back in '02 sounds like she was enjoying the day, not feeling depressed and whiny.

  • The statements do not contradict each other ,

    she was taking her son to play, and while the kids were playing, she intended to complain to her friend !

  • she first states she was like dont do anything for me i dont want you to and i wont do anything for her.. but later she states she was a life guard.... ?

    dont really get how those 2 go to gether

  • A job is a job.

    If you won't get in the water to save someone then you won't have a job.

  • Indeed they do. It makes all sense if you understand conscious and subsconscious workings. Who she is in the first place is not her abusive past. I would have been surprised if she was not some kind of service work. :)

  • EXPOSING THE TRUTH, LIES, AND MASS MANIPULATION

    OF SHELLEY YATES AND HER 'FIRE THE GRID' starfiretor

  • @ninammam I read the first page of your report and your main argument against Shelley Yates is that you think that one cannot speak to beings of light without having an NDE. That is closed minded. A true scientist is open minded and skeptical at the same time. There is a flaw in your assumption: That you understand the workings of the universe. In truth, few if any of us do. Good luck with your fear mongering.

  • Evan Grace was not brain dead. Besides the hypothermia cold water near drowning effect explained in the "Conclusion To Claim 2", there is further evidence found in news articles published in the Canadian Press. This evidence includes a published personal accounting of the car accident, written by Shelley Yates herself, in which she states that her son was not brain dead.

  • hey both experienced a cold water near drowning episode, in which hypothermia and the 'diver's reflex' staved off an immediate drowning death. This allowed for rescue and resuscitation. There are documented cases where people have been submerged in cold water for a few minutes to over 60 minutes, and have been revived to make a good recovery.

  • Although Shelley Yates was submerged for possibly over 10 minutes, and Evan Grace was submerged for possibly 20 minutes as explained in "Conclusion To Clam 1", neither of them drowned or died.

  • Shelley is a human being with all the foibles that entails. Despite what gossip people want to believe or not belie4ve, the fact remains that tens of thousands, if not millions of people joined in spirit to raise the vibration of human consciousness for one hour, and that is a fact. IF you believe in peace, don't kill the messenger.

  • Shelora... hear hear!!! Shelley Yates is a miraculous woman. You can feel her authenticity and I would back her 100% in anything she ever did... good for you for speaking up for her...

    Love and appreciation, Jay xxx

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  • I don't need to. I don't judge people... and I respect that you have a different perspective and that's ok. Thank you for the comments. I wish you well :)

  • reverse ingineer the are 51 devices?

    wow if u ever succeed that be great

    but i doubt u will

  • I was in the room with this beautiful woman a month before Firing the Grid. She was so authentic that I was moved to lead the meditation in Vancouver. Since she withdrew, I have been waiting for her to tell us what happened. On March 17th, 2009, she sent us a letter giving us the update on the monumental event that transpired for humanity on July 17, 2007. A marvellous, miraculous experience that has utterly transformed my life, and that of the planet. Have faith, Dear Ones.

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  • The Grid has been fired!

    I welcome all to my channel! I fired the grid last year and have been visiting Area 51 via remote viewing in order to reverse engineer the alien technology.

    Please visit my channel!

  • This fanatic should be in a Psiquiatric hospital

  • Very cool. Thanks for sharing Miss Yates. On 7-7-7 at 11:11 GMT I experienced what you said I would while in silent meditation. Maslow's Food Voucher Program for the working class is my project for the cause using my musical group as the marketing and fund raising component of my project. This project is just like Farm Aid but this cause is for the working class who are not getting their basic needs met. The business plan is done and the money will come.

  • Will ther be a second one?

  • I LOVE THIS WOMAN... she is authentic and I intend to support everything she does...

    Thank you Shelley for being brave and courageous.

    Love and light, Jay

  • Utter Piffle

  • RaIsE tHe VibRatIoN...

    PEace 2 U

  • Attention...

    Google.. "Do You Wish That We Would Show Up. Change The World"

    This message will change your life I promise for real man!!!!

    Read and decide our future.

  • hey guys n gals, hows it going? been a while...

  • hey Sort, how you been? Things have been a little crazy lately for me, haven't been on much, so I don't really know what's going on.

  • Hey Sortl

    going great, having fun on Facebook sharing photos etc...small world and all that...theres so much good on youtube...but there are some videos that I watched that definitely packed a punch....I searched illuminati and watched a few and really got whammyed if you know what I mean....ah well just watching the enlightening ones now!!! cheers to you G from Trish

  • Hey Sortl

    going great, having fun on Facebook sharing photos etc...small world and all that...theres so much good on youtube...but there are some videos that I watched that definitely packed a punch....I searched illuminati and watched a few and really got whammyed if you know what I mean....ah well just watching the enlightening ones now!!! cheers to you G from Trish

  • What is this new age occultist rambling about?

  • she's talking about a car accident idiot .

  • Yes, we're here to raise our consciousness, & manifest beautiful forms. If fire the grid is your thing you will like the Ringing Cedars series by Vladimir Megre, about the new global eco-community. Another good book is called Master Keys to the Abundant Life by Kim Michaels. By blessing everyone & yourself you will recieve more blessings in your life. These books get around strictly through word of mouth so thought I'd spread the word.

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  • gets: You missed the point.

  • what anc idea , an idea can change your life..

  • How come this crazy stuff only happens to Americans??

  • I believe this event happened in Nova Scotia, Canada? :)

  • North America then dont be pedantic, my point is you never hear people from China talking such nonsense!

  • You are very dull indeed

  • hey my last name is yates!!!!! sweet

  • thats cool we are all gods children i beleve u all.now lets get stoned......he hee its alright...don't tell the police there all suicidel anyway ah ah the aliens there comeing to get you all (we love you)i'll be ther 2076 cool man now lets get stoned...

  • I don't know the nature of the beings communicating with Shelley, they certainly do APPEAR to be from the light. Of course many of the new age and spiritual traditions will teach that all spirit beings come from love and light (a big mistake).

    Anyways, to help ensure your spiritual journey is safe, I strongly recommend reading:

    The Demonologist: The Extraordinary Career of Ed and Lorraine Warren

    by Gerald Brittle

    and

    An Exorcist Tells His Story

    by Grabrielle Amorth

  • This video is where it all started for me nearly 8 months ago...wow since then and through alienx1976 I have found my way to such good stuff and made some beautiful friends...I think youtube is about looking for synergy...finding like minded folk

    Who has time to dis sites....does it add to the world ...more excitingly I dig sites like the science of peace by david wilcock...focus on the journey and links to new info

    viva youtube

  • Fascinating...

  • Another American destined to save us all. Someone grab the Prozac! She's nuts...

  • she's been there done that with the prozac...she's also not American, but yeah she is nuts, just off meds for too long and has lost touch with reality

  • hey getsmart. Long time no see. I've been busy elsewhere and haven't been here for a long, long while.

    I have to say I take offense to the idea that someone who suffers from depression is "nuts" and that being "off her meds for too long" has caused her to lose touch with reality. It simply doesn't work that way. If not taking her meds had any effect at all it would cause her to become withdrawn, not go on a public speaking tour. I think you're confusing depression with other mental illness

  • getsmart: Shelly Yates is not "nuts". She knows exactly what she is doing.

    I agree with her on the subject of medication, to a certain degree. Though some people benefit from meds, the meds for depression do block certain abilities, like creativity. I found prozac to be really bad for that. I couldn't even draw or write when I was on it.

    So in a way, you could say going off the prozac is what gave Shelly the ability to hear light beings, if you know what I mean.

  • she needs help

  • this girl need some help:(

  • are you coming from a good place yeahmt12

  • Happy New Year gang at FTG

    2007 will be the year that I fully woke

    and you are my friends in that journey

    love to all T x

  • Just want to wish you guys the very best. May this be a great and wonderful year for you!

  • Happy New Year to everyone! May your dreams come true in 2008! Take Care x

  • Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

  • Merry Christmas everyone hope you all have a safe and happy time over the holidays

    cheers Trish

  • wow I just randomly clicked this and listen and this happend to me only I had car fumes comming out my caddy i think and I almost passed out driving to work and instead of hitting the gaurd rail My caddy did what hers did but I had the sence to cut the weel and my can came back down so hard that the frount left speaker poped out, my car was fine and I drove with my window down. Crappy cadillac!!!!! this can happen

  • Not that I have anything against James Randi. He actually does the world a favour by weeding out the fakes. I remember the thing with Peter Popoff too. I heard the story when he was exposed, I had forgotten the name by the time I saw him in the infomercial. The only problem is that every time one of these fakes is exposed people think all psychics are fake.

  • Hey guys,

    I came across a really beautiful, fascinating, and very unique interpretation of the Book of Revelation by Edgar Cayce.

    Thought you guys might like this:

    near-death (dot)com/experiences/cayce10.h­tml

  • cheers Fangel this sounds good

    off to check it all out

    xx

  • I will check out the interpretation by Edgar Cayce for sure. Thanks for the post.

    I actually might have it around here somewhere, I don't know. I still have a few books from the old church, but some have been lost or destroyed.

  • gee whiz am I missing something or is this an inside joke reptiles fire the grid??? what ever What ever happened to pain ol'simple ...live by the golden rule...if anyone has been taught what it is and what it really means

  • *plain

  • As for what to do when people are being "HAD", I have struggled with the same question from the begining here. I just gave up because no one listens to me anyway. When someone has truly set their mind on something, what can you do?

    God Bless. :)

  • He who has the gold makes the rules?

  • constavlos

    "He who has the gold makes the rules?"

    What are you talking about?

  • Hi all

    has anyone read "the sacred quest"?

    cheers

    Trish

  • "Hi all

    has anyone read "the sacred quest"?

    Hiya heal,

    I haven't, but I checked out the review at Amazon it looks like a really good read. I really like the bright future it paints for humanity.

    Thanks for sharing this :)

  • Hi gang!!! how are you all???? I too went and got great eyeball and vampire teeth lollies in my excitement for halloween...but here in Australia its hit and miss...not one knock on the door did I get...maybe next year??

  • Heheh great eyeball and vampire teeth! I love it! Sounds fun!

    About not getting a knock, I remember the last place I lived we often didn't get any knocks as well...

  • (cont)...Where I lived before, the roads were more busy, less street lights, more dogs, houses were further apart, more hills, and more trees (the trees would block the parents' views of their kids). So it was probably more difficult for the kids and the parents may not have felt comfortable.

    On the bright side, I bet there's a lot more treats left over for you and your family! :D

  • re the lollies

    they're terrible!!!...Im definitely going to taste test for next year...these things would support the impact from a long distance runners feet!!!!

  • Re lollies, I know what you mean. Last year I bought vampire eyeballs that were supposed to be strawberry. Tasted more like soap flavoured rubber balls. One time we had chocolates that were like chewing wax only without the flavour.

  • Hi heas. I'm great, except for this cold that won't let go. Hallowe'en has become kind of "hit and miss" here too. There were some areas of the city that had no one. A lot of people are afriad to take their kids out now, but I don't agree. There has never been one case of poisoned candy or anything bad that wasn't a prank being pulled by the kids themselves. And if they travel in groups with lights and adult supervision it's perfectly safe.

  • But it is fun to see the little ones all dressed up. One was dressed as a winged unicorn and seemed to be doing her best to take off. She was running so fast she tripped on the bottom step and fell flat on her face. It's a good thing the costume provided lots of padding. I saw her a little later running down the other side of the street with her sisters yelling for her to stop.

  • "One was dressed as a winged unicorn and seemed to be doing her best to take off."

    Ha that's too cute! :) I had a lot of chocolate treats, and I could have sworn some of the kids came by more than once. I didn't say anything, I was powerless to their cuteness :)

  • Has anyone checked out starfire tors report on fire the grid. godlike productions has a link. "deception uncovered with fire the grid" Keep an open mind when you read it please.

  • Hi getsmart. Those of us who have been posting here since July know about startfire tor and have read her report. I recomended it myself awhile ago. I never did believe shelly's story.

  • Hi gets, the link was posted earlier awhile back. Thanks again for sharing the link in case someone missed it. It's good to have a balanced perspective.

  • getsmart, It is good that you posted that link for anyone who hasn't seen it.

    And though I don't believe Shelly, like fallenangel said, it is good to have a balanced perspective. I am willing to admit to the possibility that some of what she says is true, or at least possible.

  • "I am willing to admit to the possibility that some of what she says is true, or at least possible."

    I can definitly see where some people are coming from. For instance, I had a two experiences in my life that to me transcends reason and logic. From these experiences, I feel I have become a bit more open (and maybe even a little crazy with my worldview :).

  • So if I didn't have these experiences, I may have been a hardcore skeptic not just with these 'light beings' but any and everything related to metaphysics.

  • I am not a "hardcore skeptic", I just don't believe every Tom Dick and Mary that comes along claiming to have knowledge of/from the great beyond. 99% of them are charlatans, con artists, looking for money or fame or both. The flashier they are, the less likely it is they are the real deal.

    Within about 4 blocks of my home there are at least 5 places with "psycic" signs. The only one I would believe is hand written on a piece of cardboard and says "no charge".

  • I would have to agree with that.

    I believe to some degree with Karma, but also I have to agree with the old saying 'you reap what you sow', 'what goes around comes around.' What is a struggle..is when you know..based on personal experience, that people are being HAD and whether to let them find out for themselves or allow the perp to get what they came for ... in this case a whole lot of attention and a few bucks on the side. I guess I Have decided tis' in Gods hands. God Bless You All

  • Hi getsmart. Yep, I have heard of the "Golden Rule". A lot of what you read here could be considered an inside joke. Most of us have been talking to each other for awhile now.

    You said you believe to some degree with Karma, but that you also believe 'you reap what you sow'. That's kind of the same thing, isn't it? The concept of Karma (and f-angel can correct me if I'm wrong) is that what you give out in life determines what you will receive. In other words, 'what goes around, comes around'.

  • "I am not a "hardcore skeptic"

    There's a misunderstanding, I didn't imply that you are one from the message, especially since you mentioned you were open to the possibility of some of what Shelley is saying.

    I would consider the hardcore skeptics to be people like James Randi. The odd thing I actually like James, he helps me to find my personal truth (I stress personal since everyone is unique and different).

  • Hi fallenangel. There's no misunderstanding. I didn't take it personally. I was just making a statement, for the record you could say. There are some who would assume I am just a skeptic who doesn't believe,think it is because I have had no experience with the "metaphysical".

    No idea who James Randi is btw.

  • I don't think there's anything wrong with being skeptical. My friend thinks I'm a highly skeptical person actually.

    I share your view about the psychics (most of them anyways). I contacted a little over 10 psychic/mediums for readings. Most didn't impressed me and were flat out wrong; however, there were 3 that blew my mind away. They told me very personal, accurate, and specific information about me that I never told anyone.

  • Being skeptical is healthy. So is having an open mind. I seldom ever dismiss anything outright. Which is how I ended up here on youtube watching these videos when I had already decided I did not believe Shelly. I thought seeing and hearing her might shed new light.

  • "Being skeptical is healthy"

    Your right, and I find it's not clear cut. For instance, there appears to be different levels of skepticism around certain topics and this varies with each individual. For example, if I have didn't have some level of skepticism I would have gone all out, joined Shelley's team, and already made a huge donation. The main thing I did like about fire the grid, was people coming together and praying/meditating for peace on a global scale.

  • "The main thing I did like about fire the grid was people comming together and praying/meditating for peace on a global scale."

    Me too. I've been asked a few times why I participated when I believe Shelly is a fraud. That's the answer. If I hadn't encountered other people here on youtube doing it for the same reason, I probably wouldn't have.

  • If a psychic can tell you specific things about yourself without asking a lot of questions first, then I would believe them.

    I can't afford to waste the money right now, or I might go try some of them out. I am considering the one that says 'no charge' on her sign. Though it might just be a ploy to get people to come into her salon.

    One other thing that stops me is, do I want to know what they have to say? Knowledge of the future can be very dangerous, especially if misinterpreted.

  • You make a lot of good points that I follow myself. For instance for my readings, I'll simply ask can you give me a general reading with me giving as little information as possible (that's it I don't give them further personal information). I find this prevents them from "fishing" information...

  • "...I don't give them further personal information. I find this prevents them from "fishing"...

    That's exactly what you have to do. I always figure if their really psychic, why do they need to ask? I've also been told not to wear any jewelry or distinctive clothing that would give them a clue.

    And of course, you should never take it completly seriously. Like you said, even the real ones can't be right all the time. Not to mention the future is fluid, always changing.

  • (cont)...You make a good point about being careful, from my studies the best pyschics/mediums are at best around 70% accurate. I agree, some of the readers receives images or archetypes which is highly symbolic and can easily be misinterpreted.

  • "You make a good point about being careful, from my studies the best pyschics/mediums are at best around 70% accurate."

    I wanted to add versus cold readers or fakes (probably a majority of so-called "psychics") who suprisingly according to a study are still around 20 to 25% accurate at best due to asking a lot of questions or "fishing" for information from the customer or client.

  • "...versus cold readers or fakes...who surprisingly according to a study are still around 20-25% accurate.."

    That accuracy rate can be even higher for someone who is good at reading people. Body language, facial expressions etc. give them usefull clues.

  • Yea your right, that's why I was impressed with one reader. I was in another state and she didn't even hear my voice during the reading. And the personal information she shared with me wasn't public knowledge (even if she had video camera following me she wouldn't have known, so she couldn't have done prior investigation). Also even very close friends and family members didn't know.

  • "I can't afford to waste the money right now, or I might go try some of them out. I am considering the one that says 'no charge' on her sign."

    If you ever really want to get a reading, let me know. I can tell you how to possibly get a free reading from a pyschic/intuitive who I found personally to be highly accurate.

  • Thanks for the offer about the reading. For now I'll just stick with my own intuition. It tells me all I really need to know, when I listen to it.

  • Hi aoib,

    James Randi is a pretty famous skeptic.

    Here's a pretty neat and entertaining video of him exposing Uri Gellar:

    In the Youtube search field type in "James Randi exposes Uri Geller and Peter Popoff" or

    you can go to:

    youtube (dot) com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo

  • Hi fallenangel.

    I'll definately check that out, thanks. Maybe I have seen this guy before and just don't remember. I forget things sometimes.

    Peter Popoff I remember. I saw him in an infomercial late one night. He's the one who pedals the supposed miracle oil or something? I remember laughing and thingking wow, a modern day snake oil salesman.

    Uri Gellar rings a bell but I can't remember where I've seen him.

  • Hi fallenangel.

    "Uri Gellar rings a bell..."

    DUH! I guess it would. I remember now. Always did think he was a phony. And I remember James Randi now too. He offered a million dollar prize to any one who can prove thy're psychic and the skeptics think the fact that no one has won it yet is proof there is no such thing as psychics. They just don't get it. I wonder if James would even admit it if he did encounter a real psychic? I doubt it.

  • "...and the skeptics think the fact that no one has won it yet is proof there is no such thing as psychics."

    "He actually does the world a favour by weeding out the fakes."

    We're on the same wavelength here, I couldn't have said it better :)

  • falenangel, it's nice to be on the same wavelength with someone. I made the mistake of posting on one of the pages with a debunking video on it. Well, I guess I can't really call it a mistake since I knew what the response would be. So far I've been called an 'idiot' and a 'moron' and there was something about pseudo-intellectual comments.

  • Hey welcome to the club!!! :) I'm sure by many people's standards I would be considered a fool, idiot, and possibly insane! :)

  • There was a really great study done under laboratory conditions, that James won't address or even comment on. To eliminate any possibilities of "fishing" for information or fraud. They had cold readers try to give a reading to an unknown person over the phone. The person would remain absolutely quiet during the reading, not saying a single word...

  • Anyway, I was wondering, could you tell me where to find some of those studies? I'd like to have a look at them when I have the time.

  • Sure, it's found in the book 'The Afterlife Experiments' by Dr. Schwartz. It's towards the last part of the book. It's very unfortunate, I find a lot of people will only read the first part of the book and will have already made their minds about the authenticity of psychics/mediums/intuitives (and they won't even read about the very best experiments performed found toward the latter part of the book)...

  • (cont)...If you like, you can contact Dr. Schwartz for further details of his experiments and research as well.

  • Now James has attacked Dr. Schwartz and his work, but again never once did he address or comment upon Schwartz's experiment with the cold readers and psychics doing readings over the phone.

  • fallenangel, re: "The Afterlife Experiments"

    Well, I fell nicely into that trap, didn't I?

    Admittedly, I haven't looked at the book yet, so I should reserve judgement until I do. But from what I've read about Dr. Schwartz, his credibility is questionable at best.

  • (cont)...as expected the cold readers failed miserably. Even under these stringent conditions, they found the [Authentic/Legit] psychics/intuitives were surprisingly still able to give highly accurate readings.

  • "For instance, I had two experiences in my life that transcends reason and logic."

    I've had more than I can count. I don't talk about them but lets just say things "related to metaphysics" are not new to me.

    They've pretty much been with me from birth.

  • "but reptilians want the earth warmer because they're cold blooded, so if FTG is Fired again, then you can expect to see them coming up from their underground military bases."

    If this was true, you have to take into account reptilians are already above ground (snakes, lizards, crocs, etc.) On top of this, these 'inter dimensional' and supposedly highly intelligent beings have mastered interstellar travel and materialization...

  • (cont)...therefore, the current temperature shouldn't be an issue. Despite the fact that the "FTG is Fired again," as aoib mentioned the Earth is warming and will continue to warm due to global warming.

  • Global warming is vitually non existent, it's only a VERY small fraction of the earth heating up.

  • Constavlos

    "Global warming is virtually non-existent"

    People who don't believe global warming exists are probably the greatest threat to the planet.

    Humans are destroying the Earth. And with a little effort we could save it. But most people it seems are so lazy they would rather just give up and die. Though I have to say "the reptiles are doing it" is the most creative excuse I have heard so far.

  • Sorry I forgot to mentioned that anybody who fired the grid last time, was pulled out of their body (while meditating) and then downloaded with a clone, sad but true.

  • "Sorry I forgot to mentioned that anybody who fired the grid last time, was pulled out of their body (while meditating) and then downloaded with a clone, sad but true."

    Shhh... this is supposed to be a top secret plan of our soon to be new alien reptillian overlords :D

  • Constavlos, sorry to disapoint you, but I don't meditate. So I guess that means I'm still me.

  • Bear feet, what a great idea! I should try that next time. When I say the weather was warm I mean it didn't snow like it usually does on hallowe'en. It was still a little cold on the feet.

  • Yeah, a lot of the kids here go around twice too. If I recognize them the second time I just give them less candy, unless it's late and I don't need to worry about running out.

    There were not a lot of kids out this year. Some people I know didn't get any. A lot of people don't want their kids trick or treating now, which I think is sad.

  • "When I say the weather was warm I mean it didn't snow like it usually does on hallowe'en."

    That's really amazing. I live in the southern parts of the US and we might see snow a few days in winter out of the entire year. Perhaps since it's so rare here, it's one of the most beautiful things to see in this area.

  • OK, y'all know like one of you's said how it's weird that one of you made a comment about me then I instantaniously came back for no apparent reason, well I'm thinking I must've been sent back here to make you one you well aware of the reptilian presence, so which one of yous has a niggling feeling that I'm right?

  • Constavlos, it was me who posted about you and wondered why you came here right after. And I still want to know. I don't believe in coincidence. I also don't believe in reptilians and won't until one walks up to me and introduces itself. So if you were "sent back here" to convince me, it was a waste of time.

  • "well I'm thinking I must've been sent back here to make you one you well aware..."

    You may have been sent to teach, OR, perhaps to learn and maybe even both. In the grand scheme of things, who really knows for certain.

  • HAPPY HALLOWE'EN EVERYONE!!!:)

  • Happy Halloween to you too!

    I'm stocked with candy and ready for the little monsters tonight :D

  • fallenangel, I just saw your reply. I had to run right after I posted yesterday and haul the skeletons out of the closet (litteraly).

    I overstocked the candy and chips. The day was so warm, we expected to be overrun with little monsters, but we had hardly any. Mostly big ones. One was older than me. Lucky for him I had too much and just wanted to get rid of it. Also I think he was a little confused, since he wished me a "happy new year".

  • "Also I think he was a little confused, since he wished me a "happy new year"

    That's hilarious! :D Glad to hear overall it sounded like you had a good time :)

  • "Glad to hear overall it sounded like you had a good time."

    Well, I tried, but I have a nasty cold right now, so it wasn't that much fun. I usually go all out for hallowe'en, but I only managed to get about half my decorations out and carve one pumpkin. I was too exhausted to even get into costume, and I was in bed before midnight.

  • "I usually go all out for hallowe'en"

    Heehe I always enjoyed the festive people.

    "I was too exhausted to even get into costume, and I was in bed before midnight."

    Don't feel bad, the extent of my costume was limited to these gigantic furry halloween bear feet slippers. They kept me warm when I handing out treats :)

  • sorry "since" the last FTG

  • I have very recently come into information, that FTG heats up our atmosphere, Has anybody noticed the increase natural disasters (forest fires, global warming etc.) in the last FTG?

  • Constavlos, global warming began with the industrial revolution more than a hundred years ago. What you are witnessing now is just the culmination of decades of pollution and environmental destruction. Try reading a little more about the subject. Once again, you need to try more sources.

  • Yeah that is definatly part of it (since the reptilians were the ones who introduced humnas to crude oil "I can give you the link if anybody wants"), but reptilians want the earth warmer because they're cold blooded, so if FTG is Fired again, then you can expect to see them coming up from their underground military bases.

  • I agree that we need to "open our eyes", but not so that we can watch some cheesy clips that supposedly show people as reptiles.

    What we need to open our eyes to is what we are doing to this world and to each other.

  • "but not so that we can watch some cheesy clips that supposedly show people as reptiles."

    LoL :D

  • And then I found our friend Constvlos here, and our discussion just turned to reptiles and cats. And fruit flies. Seriously, they're buzzing around me as I type. Sometimes one will hover right in front of my face and I can't help wondering, are they trying to say something? They just started landing on me as I started talking about them. Wierd.

  • So maybe it's not the cats but the fruit flies we need to be worried about!?

    lol you crack me up! XD

  • Well, the flies may be small, but they do outnumber us. If nothing else they could annoy us to death. I consider my house a no kill zone and most creatures are safe here, but I've come close to smacking a fly more than once today.

  • at this moment in time

  • Const, at the end of your pact it says:

    "It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself."

    Since it was "written" it should be ballgame for the lizards, and the Creator should be able to intervene according to your link.

  • It's talking about the masses, it's not just the earth which is netted, a person can be personally be netted by beiliefs and discrination of others" LOL why am I saying this that PACT says it all, allyou have to do is translate it inot laymens terms

  • I understand that a person can be netted by his/her beliefs. Again if there's any truth to the pact it should be over for the "reptillians/illuminati." So if you actually believe this pact, why do you worry about the reptillians?

  • I sometimes worry because

    luciferianliberationfront . org/aliens . html

    Only read the part about interdimensional reptilians.

  • I think I'm done reading for the nite :)

    Have you looked into works by Barbara Hand Clow or Barbara Marciniak, they go into the reptillians as well?

    *Sips some more tea*

  • Yeah I've heard of B, OK goodnight

  • Interdimensional reptiles eh? Const if you're interested in this stuff, you may want to check out:

    'The Active Side of Infinity' by Carlos Castaneda

    'The Way of the Shaman' by Michael Harner

    'Remote Viewing' by Tim Rifat

    Although not the main focus, all 3 books touches upon the interdimensional reptiles.

  • Thanks but I have all I need to know about the Snakes now, Those books are probably nearly all disinforamtion.

  • From 'the Active Side of Infinity' (sounds like your pact):

    We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so...

  • (cont) Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary and egomaniacal.

  • Constavlos, I have to ask, how is it that you can be sure the books fallenangel suggests are "disinformation", without even looking at them? And how do you know that your info is correct?

  • I don't

  • reptillians....ok I have heard this and understand your fear...but through our many lifetimes we have been all things...good and bad

    you must have had lifetimes as the very thing that you call evil ..if you subscribe to reincarnation??

    Im hearing something catchy forming in my mind about " Lifetimes, its not personal its just business!!" (tshirt slogans?) that is the business of our evoluton...so... its your focus dear one

    Focus on the love

  • "Lifetimes, its not personal its just business!!"

    Hehehe I can definitly see that as a slogan! :D

  • reptilians control the reincarnational cycle here on earth (they call it recyling) I wish everybody would stop talking about LOVE and it being our savior, the only thing that's gonna save us is if we open our eyes to what's really going on around us