@Nubiex7 We are boycotting Israeli businesses because of the oppression, terror and repression that Israel is causing upon the Palestinians, crimes of which are heavily documented by human rights groups and NGOs. If you wish to ignore that evidence and documentation, and instead go off on a ridiculous and worthless rant about Nazis and Anti-Semitism, then don't expect to recieve anything from me but ridicule.
Ignoring the suffering Palestinians doesn't make them stop existing or suffering.
You should check out the protests have just happened in Brisbane. Complete the opposite to what you just said.
BDS was having a pro-Palestinian protest. The Zionists were countering that with a pro-Israel protest. There was a clash between the two protests.
The Australian Defence League, an openly fascist organisation, didn't side with us at BDS, but instead deciding to support and help out the Zionists. Clearly their loyalties lie with Israel not Palestine,
@JessicaMarks1968 And why shouldn't their loyalties lie with Israel!? i don't know anything about The ADL but at least they chose the right side to back.. who do you people think you are? Israel is the only stable, free & democratic country in the middle east, why don't you people protest about all the human rights abuses that go on in every Muslim country that surrounds Israel? because that doesn't suit yr perverse politically correct agenda, you lot are the 21st century Nazis
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@ChaseTheDub You accussed me of being a Nazi, and the entire mainstream media has been smearing BDS as an anti-Semitic and fascistic protest group. Our boycott on Israeli businesses has been compared with Germany 1938. And so when you accuse me of being a Nazi, I'm going to rip that assertion to shreds via argument and evidence.
The real fascists, not the ones in the fantasies of Murdoch journalists, but actual ones on the streets, sided with Israel over Palestine. Brisbane showed evidence.
@JessicaMarks1968 I'm not surprised the mainstream media is smearing BDS! its because you people are extremists without a cause. You harass the only country in the Mid-East, that has &supports all the values that we enjoy in this country. every single Muslim country that surrounds Israel, has the most appalling human rights records! woman are treated like 2nd class citizens, if they're lucky! homosexuals are jailed, or worse, murdered! There is no freedom of speech, or social welfare! so......
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@ChaseTheDub You accussed me of being a Nazi, and the entire mainstream media has been smearing BDS as an anti-Semitic and fascistic protest group. Our boycott on Israeli businesses has been compared with Germany 1938. And so when you accuse me of being a Nazi, I'm going to rip that assertion to shreds via argument and evidence.
The real fascists, not the ones in the fantasies of Murdoch journalists, but actual ones on the streets, sided with Israel over Palestine. Brisbane showed evidence.
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@ChaseTheDub You accussed me of being a Nazi, and the entire mainstream media has been smearing BDS as an anti-Semitic and fascistic protest group. Our boycott on Israeli businesses has been compared with Germany 1938. And so when you accuse me of being a Nazi, I'm going to rip that assertion to shreds via argument and evidence.
The real fascists, not the ones in the fantasies of Murdoch journalists, but actual ones on the streets, sided with Israel over Palestine. Brisbane showed evidence.
@JessicaMarks1968 Why do you people think, that just because someone sides with Israel, they must be fascists?? i don't understand your narrow minded logic?? Israel is the ONLY real free & democratic nation in the middle east, they have an independent judiciary, a long standing support of trade unions, freedom of speech, and a social welfare system that equals ours,. where else in The Mid-East can you find these same freedoms?? NOWHERE!! SO WHY ARE YOU HARASSING ISRAEL??
@ChaseTheDub I'm not surprised the mainstream media is smearing BDS! its because you people are extremists without a cause. You harass the only country in the Mid-East, that has &supports all the values that we enjoy in this country. every single Muslim country that surrounds Israel, has the most appalling human rights records! woman are treated like 2nd class citizens, if they're lucky! homosexuals are jailed, or worse, murdered! There is no freedom of speech, or social welfare,. so my dear....
@ChaseTheDub Israel has an appalling human rights record. What about the apartheid system in the West Bank, what about the systematic torture of Palestinians, what about the random killings of Palesinians, what about the blockade on Gaza, what about the segregation inside of Israel?
These crimes that Israel commits upon the Palestinians are brutal and horrific, and need to be opposed. All morally decent humans would oppose such brutality as per Israel upon Palestine.
@ChaseTheDub Moral people should always fight oppression, attack oppressors and support resistance. The Warsaw Ghetto uprising is a great moment in the history of resisting oppression. The Palestinians resisting the occupation and dispossession is admirable and heroic. Getting rid of apartheid Rhodesia and South Africa were beautiful. And the women of Saudia Arabia fighting back against the brutal and systematic oppression is equally heroic and worthy of my celebration.
@ChaseTheDub The reason why we boycott against and oppose Israel is very simple, and it's something we've been saying millions of times over, and I'll say it again now. We oppose Israel because of the crimes it commits upon the Palestinians, including the apartheid regime in the West Bank, the blockade upon Gaza, and segregation inside of Israel, and the refusal to provide justice to the refugees.
Israel's internal democratic liberalism do not disprove the facts of the crimes it commits.
@ChaseTheDub I keep saying, "The reason why I support the boycott on Israel is because of what Israel does to the Palestinians."
Every time when an apologist for Israel writes a comment, they ignore the Palestinians, and thus ignore the suffering and brutality that they live under. It's no different than discussing South Africa's democratic and liberal polity while ignoring the suffering of the blacks.
Do you think that it's legitimate to defend 1980s South Africa because it was democratic?
@JessicaMarks1968 There is absolutely NO COMPARISON to Apartheid S.A in the 80's, to the Israel/Palestine conflict. Black people in S.A. never fired rockets into white communities, they never allowed extremist groups like Hamas to dictate their struggle against apartheid, they never wished for all white people to leave SA. they just wanted to have the same rights as white people. Palestinians have been offered peace by Israel many times! but they have always chosen violence over peace.
@ChaseTheDub "Black people in S.A. never fired rockets into white communities, they never allowed extremist groups like Hamas to dictate their struggle against apartheid, they never wished for all white people to leave SA."
That is completely wrong, there was massive amounts of terrorism committed against whites by blacks, far more than Hamas ever has, many assassinations, Mandela was arrested for committing terrorism, the ANC was considered a terrorist organisation by the CIA.
@JessicaMarks1968 The Palestinians could have had peace & prosperity a long time ago! but they refuse to live side by side with the Israelis, or even recognize Israel as a UN sanctioned state. People have very short memories, back in the 70's, Israel was doing everything it could to try and make peace with the Palestinians. In 72 Palestinian terrorists killed Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics, & in 73 Palestinians supported Syria & Egypt's attack on Israel, these people don't want peace!
@JessicaMarks1968 Arabs and Jews have been at war with each other for thousands of years, there will NEVER be peace in The middle-east, EVER. they are both to blame for the current situation, but more so The Palestinians, who by now could have been a very prosperous and happy peoples, but they chose conflict over peace, and violence over co-operation with Israel, The Palestinians are their own worst enemy! and us westerners should stay right out of this grubby Middle-east politics!
@ChaseTheDub Britain was the leading funder to Zionist colonisers in the 1930s and '40s, and helped the state of Israel founded, and then the US has been the biggest contributor to Israel, with economic, military and diplomatic aid. It's obvious that Israel plays a role in imperial geopolitics, ie controlling the Middle East oil supply, and thus will always be a relevant factor within world politics. The crisis will continue until the US gets out of the Middle East and stops funding terrorism.
@ChaseTheDub In Palestine, Jews and Palestinians WERE living in peace for a full 50 years, and had heathy economic and social relationships. Problems arose when the British-funded Zionists began interfering with Mandate Palestine domestic politics, including the eventual creation of an army that committed the Nakba.
That's the difference between Jews and Zionists: Jews wanted to live happily in Palestine as free citizens, Zionists wanted to slaughter Arabs and found a racist terror state.
@JessicaMarks1968 And,,,,, the reason you lot are being compared with pre WW2 Germany, is because most of the German people did not have any problems with the many Jewish families and businesses that lived in Europe prior to the Nazis, it was the Nazis who started all the lies and propaganda against the Jews, for no good reason! and this is exactly what you people are doing right now!! you are imitating the most hateful and murderous political party in history! you should hang yr head in shame!
@ChaseTheDub Racism is a divide-and-conquer weapon. Distract the population by scapegoating on a particular race of people, and people's anger flows in that direction. In Russia, in the 1800s, whenever the Tsar was getting unpopular with the population, he would relocate their anger away from him and towards Jews. No long did the Russian people get angry at the Tsar for their poverty, but they took out their anger by violently attacking the local Jewish people.
@ChaseTheDub The Nazis simply took pogroms to their logical conclusion. And there was a reason why the Nazis targetted the Jews - divide-and-conquer racism.
Thanks to the Great Depression, millions of people were in poverty, and extremely angry, wanting to know who to blame. The correct answer was the leading figures of capitalism and the German elite were to blame, like Hindenburg's clique.
The Nazis redirected that hatred of poverty, claiming that Jews caused the depression.
@hardkoregamer999 "Israel is the only stable, free & democratic country in the middle east"
Okay then, by that logic, I assume that you supported Apartheid South Africa, you supported the British occupation of Ireland, you supported the Indonesian annexation of East Timor in 1999, and you support the Indian occupation of Kashmir.
Israel commits countless crimes against the Palestinians, and its status as a democratic state doesn't cancel out or reduce the suffering it inflicts.
@JessicaMarks1968 i dont support any occupation of any country i believe its wrong to occupy lands of natives i am aware of countless human rights being violated by israel.
@hardkoregamer999 If that is true, then your "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East" argument is void. In reality, military occupations are brutal, horrid, and must be stopped through resistance. If the oppressor nation is a dictatorship, a theocracy, or a liberal democracy, then that occupation is still just as brutal. And thus the occupier's internal political system is not evidence to be used against resisting the occupation. All that morally matters is the occupation's brutality.
@9761scott mate can you please tell me when and where, this slaughter of 100million Christians took place?? because it doesn't appear in any history books or war documentaries i've ever seen?? ''human rights abuses, probably instigated by Israel''?? so,,,, according to you, Israel is responsible for all these nasty dictators like Saddam Hussein, Ahmadinejad, & Bashar al-Assad ?? What planet do you live on mate? for a 50yr old yr not very bright are you... GROW UP DICKHEAD!
@ChaseTheDub In order to understand the Middle East, we need to view it in terms of US imperialism: controlling the entire region, controlling the oil supply, dominating world industry of energy resources. Country by country, most Middle Eastern nations are brutal and violent human rights abusers, and most are US allies. And since Israel is an ally to the US, all of those dictatorships are allies to Israel too. Just think of Saudi Arabia and Mubarak's Egypt and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
this week a year old israeli baby got killed by palestinians with his dad when palestinians threw a rock at their car
but you don't care about that do you.you only care about boycotting israel.remind me of how jewish shops where boycotted in nazi germany
Nubiex7 4 months ago
@Nubiex7 We are boycotting Israeli businesses because of the oppression, terror and repression that Israel is causing upon the Palestinians, crimes of which are heavily documented by human rights groups and NGOs. If you wish to ignore that evidence and documentation, and instead go off on a ridiculous and worthless rant about Nazis and Anti-Semitism, then don't expect to recieve anything from me but ridicule.
Ignoring the suffering Palestinians doesn't make them stop existing or suffering.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968
Palestinian suffering? maybe if they would of stopped firing missiles and blowing up buses nobody would of attack them
also.if they would not HIDE BEHIND CIVILIANS (and i have footage proving they do so) no innocent people would of died
in israel we have a saying: whoever shows mercy to cruel people.is cruel to those who show mercy
you are standing behind terror organizations that send young children to commit suicide bombings.you should be ashamed
Nubiex7 4 months ago
you sad deluded people! you are the new 21st Nazi party. get a fucken life!!
ChaseTheDub 5 months ago 3
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@ChaseTheDub We're the Nazis?!?!?
You should check out the protests have just happened in Brisbane. Complete the opposite to what you just said.
BDS was having a pro-Palestinian protest. The Zionists were countering that with a pro-Israel protest. There was a clash between the two protests.
The Australian Defence League, an openly fascist organisation, didn't side with us at BDS, but instead deciding to support and help out the Zionists. Clearly their loyalties lie with Israel not Palestine,
JessicaMarks1968 5 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 And why shouldn't their loyalties lie with Israel!? i don't know anything about The ADL but at least they chose the right side to back.. who do you people think you are? Israel is the only stable, free & democratic country in the middle east, why don't you people protest about all the human rights abuses that go on in every Muslim country that surrounds Israel? because that doesn't suit yr perverse politically correct agenda, you lot are the 21st century Nazis
ChaseTheDub 5 months ago 6
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@ChaseTheDub You accussed me of being a Nazi, and the entire mainstream media has been smearing BDS as an anti-Semitic and fascistic protest group. Our boycott on Israeli businesses has been compared with Germany 1938. And so when you accuse me of being a Nazi, I'm going to rip that assertion to shreds via argument and evidence.
The real fascists, not the ones in the fantasies of Murdoch journalists, but actual ones on the streets, sided with Israel over Palestine. Brisbane showed evidence.
JessicaMarks1968 5 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 I'm not surprised the mainstream media is smearing BDS! its because you people are extremists without a cause. You harass the only country in the Mid-East, that has &supports all the values that we enjoy in this country. every single Muslim country that surrounds Israel, has the most appalling human rights records! woman are treated like 2nd class citizens, if they're lucky! homosexuals are jailed, or worse, murdered! There is no freedom of speech, or social welfare! so......
ChaseTheDub 5 months ago 3
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@ChaseTheDub You accussed me of being a Nazi, and the entire mainstream media has been smearing BDS as an anti-Semitic and fascistic protest group. Our boycott on Israeli businesses has been compared with Germany 1938. And so when you accuse me of being a Nazi, I'm going to rip that assertion to shreds via argument and evidence.
The real fascists, not the ones in the fantasies of Murdoch journalists, but actual ones on the streets, sided with Israel over Palestine. Brisbane showed evidence.
JessicaMarks1968 5 months ago
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@ChaseTheDub You accussed me of being a Nazi, and the entire mainstream media has been smearing BDS as an anti-Semitic and fascistic protest group. Our boycott on Israeli businesses has been compared with Germany 1938. And so when you accuse me of being a Nazi, I'm going to rip that assertion to shreds via argument and evidence.
The real fascists, not the ones in the fantasies of Murdoch journalists, but actual ones on the streets, sided with Israel over Palestine. Brisbane showed evidence.
JessicaMarks1968 5 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 Why do you people think, that just because someone sides with Israel, they must be fascists?? i don't understand your narrow minded logic?? Israel is the ONLY real free & democratic nation in the middle east, they have an independent judiciary, a long standing support of trade unions, freedom of speech, and a social welfare system that equals ours,. where else in The Mid-East can you find these same freedoms?? NOWHERE!! SO WHY ARE YOU HARASSING ISRAEL??
ChaseTheDub 5 months ago 2
@ChaseTheDub I'm not surprised the mainstream media is smearing BDS! its because you people are extremists without a cause. You harass the only country in the Mid-East, that has &supports all the values that we enjoy in this country. every single Muslim country that surrounds Israel, has the most appalling human rights records! woman are treated like 2nd class citizens, if they're lucky! homosexuals are jailed, or worse, murdered! There is no freedom of speech, or social welfare,. so my dear....
ChaseTheDub 5 months ago
@ChaseTheDub Israel has an appalling human rights record. What about the apartheid system in the West Bank, what about the systematic torture of Palestinians, what about the random killings of Palesinians, what about the blockade on Gaza, what about the segregation inside of Israel?
These crimes that Israel commits upon the Palestinians are brutal and horrific, and need to be opposed. All morally decent humans would oppose such brutality as per Israel upon Palestine.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub Moral people should always fight oppression, attack oppressors and support resistance. The Warsaw Ghetto uprising is a great moment in the history of resisting oppression. The Palestinians resisting the occupation and dispossession is admirable and heroic. Getting rid of apartheid Rhodesia and South Africa were beautiful. And the women of Saudia Arabia fighting back against the brutal and systematic oppression is equally heroic and worthy of my celebration.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub The reason why we boycott against and oppose Israel is very simple, and it's something we've been saying millions of times over, and I'll say it again now. We oppose Israel because of the crimes it commits upon the Palestinians, including the apartheid regime in the West Bank, the blockade upon Gaza, and segregation inside of Israel, and the refusal to provide justice to the refugees.
Israel's internal democratic liberalism do not disprove the facts of the crimes it commits.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub I keep saying, "The reason why I support the boycott on Israel is because of what Israel does to the Palestinians."
Every time when an apologist for Israel writes a comment, they ignore the Palestinians, and thus ignore the suffering and brutality that they live under. It's no different than discussing South Africa's democratic and liberal polity while ignoring the suffering of the blacks.
Do you think that it's legitimate to defend 1980s South Africa because it was democratic?
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 There is absolutely NO COMPARISON to Apartheid S.A in the 80's, to the Israel/Palestine conflict. Black people in S.A. never fired rockets into white communities, they never allowed extremist groups like Hamas to dictate their struggle against apartheid, they never wished for all white people to leave SA. they just wanted to have the same rights as white people. Palestinians have been offered peace by Israel many times! but they have always chosen violence over peace.
ChaseTheDub 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub "Black people in S.A. never fired rockets into white communities, they never allowed extremist groups like Hamas to dictate their struggle against apartheid, they never wished for all white people to leave SA."
That is completely wrong, there was massive amounts of terrorism committed against whites by blacks, far more than Hamas ever has, many assassinations, Mandela was arrested for committing terrorism, the ANC was considered a terrorist organisation by the CIA.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 The Palestinians could have had peace & prosperity a long time ago! but they refuse to live side by side with the Israelis, or even recognize Israel as a UN sanctioned state. People have very short memories, back in the 70's, Israel was doing everything it could to try and make peace with the Palestinians. In 72 Palestinian terrorists killed Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics, & in 73 Palestinians supported Syria & Egypt's attack on Israel, these people don't want peace!
ChaseTheDub 4 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 Arabs and Jews have been at war with each other for thousands of years, there will NEVER be peace in The middle-east, EVER. they are both to blame for the current situation, but more so The Palestinians, who by now could have been a very prosperous and happy peoples, but they chose conflict over peace, and violence over co-operation with Israel, The Palestinians are their own worst enemy! and us westerners should stay right out of this grubby Middle-east politics!
ChaseTheDub 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub Britain was the leading funder to Zionist colonisers in the 1930s and '40s, and helped the state of Israel founded, and then the US has been the biggest contributor to Israel, with economic, military and diplomatic aid. It's obvious that Israel plays a role in imperial geopolitics, ie controlling the Middle East oil supply, and thus will always be a relevant factor within world politics. The crisis will continue until the US gets out of the Middle East and stops funding terrorism.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub In Palestine, Jews and Palestinians WERE living in peace for a full 50 years, and had heathy economic and social relationships. Problems arose when the British-funded Zionists began interfering with Mandate Palestine domestic politics, including the eventual creation of an army that committed the Nakba.
That's the difference between Jews and Zionists: Jews wanted to live happily in Palestine as free citizens, Zionists wanted to slaughter Arabs and found a racist terror state.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 And,,,,, the reason you lot are being compared with pre WW2 Germany, is because most of the German people did not have any problems with the many Jewish families and businesses that lived in Europe prior to the Nazis, it was the Nazis who started all the lies and propaganda against the Jews, for no good reason! and this is exactly what you people are doing right now!! you are imitating the most hateful and murderous political party in history! you should hang yr head in shame!
ChaseTheDub 5 months ago
@ChaseTheDub Racism is a divide-and-conquer weapon. Distract the population by scapegoating on a particular race of people, and people's anger flows in that direction. In Russia, in the 1800s, whenever the Tsar was getting unpopular with the population, he would relocate their anger away from him and towards Jews. No long did the Russian people get angry at the Tsar for their poverty, but they took out their anger by violently attacking the local Jewish people.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub The Nazis simply took pogroms to their logical conclusion. And there was a reason why the Nazis targetted the Jews - divide-and-conquer racism.
Thanks to the Great Depression, millions of people were in poverty, and extremely angry, wanting to know who to blame. The correct answer was the leading figures of capitalism and the German elite were to blame, like Hindenburg's clique.
The Nazis redirected that hatred of poverty, claiming that Jews caused the depression.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub israel treats anyone who visits in the country like shit they throw rocks at you and tell you too leave
while the soldiers who gaurd do nothing im telling you search any video on you tube.
hardkoregamer999 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub /watch?v=r3iHtoAg6cc heres proof
hardkoregamer999 4 months ago
@hardkoregamer999 "Israel is the only stable, free & democratic country in the middle east"
Okay then, by that logic, I assume that you supported Apartheid South Africa, you supported the British occupation of Ireland, you supported the Indonesian annexation of East Timor in 1999, and you support the Indian occupation of Kashmir.
Israel commits countless crimes against the Palestinians, and its status as a democratic state doesn't cancel out or reduce the suffering it inflicts.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@JessicaMarks1968 i dont support any occupation of any country i believe its wrong to occupy lands of natives i am aware of countless human rights being violated by israel.
hardkoregamer999 4 months ago
@hardkoregamer999 If that is true, then your "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East" argument is void. In reality, military occupations are brutal, horrid, and must be stopped through resistance. If the oppressor nation is a dictatorship, a theocracy, or a liberal democracy, then that occupation is still just as brutal. And thus the occupier's internal political system is not evidence to be used against resisting the occupation. All that morally matters is the occupation's brutality.
JessicaMarks1968 4 months ago
@ChaseTheDub , let's talk about the 100 million christians the Ashkenazis killed in Russia.
Or perhaps the 'Rothschild-financed' Hitler.
Or profit for war.
You don't know much about Isreal if you think they're stable.
The human rights abuses that go on in every Muslim country that surrounds the stolen land called Isreal, IS PROBABLY INSTIGATED BY ISREAL!
No true jew will set foot in the stolen land called Israel, til the messiah gives it back.
So no Isrealis are Jewish, they're Zionist
9761scott 3 months ago
@9761scott mate can you please tell me when and where, this slaughter of 100million Christians took place?? because it doesn't appear in any history books or war documentaries i've ever seen?? ''human rights abuses, probably instigated by Israel''?? so,,,, according to you, Israel is responsible for all these nasty dictators like Saddam Hussein, Ahmadinejad, & Bashar al-Assad ?? What planet do you live on mate? for a 50yr old yr not very bright are you... GROW UP DICKHEAD!
ChaseTheDub 3 months ago
@ChaseTheDub In order to understand the Middle East, we need to view it in terms of US imperialism: controlling the entire region, controlling the oil supply, dominating world industry of energy resources. Country by country, most Middle Eastern nations are brutal and violent human rights abusers, and most are US allies. And since Israel is an ally to the US, all of those dictatorships are allies to Israel too. Just think of Saudi Arabia and Mubarak's Egypt and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
JessicaMarks1968 3 months ago