Steam Generator

[juggernautxtr]

the steam when it gets hot enough will seperate into componets HHo, your actually putting more HHo in the engine than a brute forced HHO generator. when the steam condenses it takes up less room increasing your vaccuum.

[pashka0843]

what mpg difference did you get with this system before and after installation? One, im thinking, disadvantage of this system is the rusting of the tail pipe. ???

[OriginalUncleNemo]

This vehicle gets 33.5mpg maximum normally. It has 150k miles on it. When new, it was getting 37. With this system, it gets average 44mpg (most ever was 47mpg).

[honda4004]

hi would you try a positive to the outer case of your steam gen as this will make negatrively charged water that is putting the hydrogen into critical collapse as the electrons are being froced to the oxygen atoms to the side wall ...of coarse have it insulated from negative of car.please view my latest video,s as need advice on final stages of a car set up from others that may see different or tweaking cheers melvin in england vacuum is a part and laser led light light emitting DIODE

[dasikotm]

if your car is a manual you could install a radiater from an automatic which has a pipe going through one of the end tanks used to cool the auto trans fluid, which is seperate from the coolant. the coolant in my car is 79 degrees c, so if you had water in there with a sealed resivor at the right hight you could use that to heat the water to A 100 PERCENT STABLE TEMP all day every day, then adjust the vacume with the needle valve and you would always get the same amount of steam ;)

[OriginalUncleNemo]

This system is much simpler than that and it does the same thing.

[ShadowWorks]

Hi Original Uncle Nemo, I just recently found lots of patents for steam injection devices on a internal combustion engine, I created a small test rig for my engine and the results are strange, I get more engine vacuum with the steam injection and more torque, I have no fuel logs yet but my exhaust gases vanish with the steam injection, I do not understand why or how this is possible.

Check out my latest video and tell me what you think is happening.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

I have seen a few steam injectors too. I wonder why you get more vacuum? I will have to test this on my engine. Maybe it throws the timing off a little. It may be possible to mess with the IAT sensor to change the timing slightly, but I'm not sure. As for the exhaust gasses, perhaps you are using slightly less fuel with the same amount of air, lowering the unburned fuel. At any rate, it is a good way to increase MPG and clean the engine without strain to the alternator.

[ATOMsMasHER22]

It may increase vacuum due to a water seal around all the components it touches.

It basically seals the engine where normally just the metal to metal surfaces do not produce such a seal.

Just a thought =)

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Could be. I get 41mpg with the mist/steam generator and an efie. Pretty good results and they are rock solid consistant.

[aardvarkinmud]

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm sure a little run time will bring out any kinks.

Still interested where/how you tapped into your cooling system though.

Regards.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

I'll make a video of the installation when I get the time.

[aardvarkinmud]

I would be interested in seeing where you tapped into your coolant for this?

Also, I always wondered about the various injection points folks use. When you see how in wind tunnel testing a stream of smoke is injected into the general air stream, there is not much mixing going on at all across a significant distance. So how can one expect to get any good mixing with the remaining intake air over such short distances? What little gas goes in might never reach some cylinders. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

You are right about the wind tunnel test. However, gasses work differently. Especially gasses that differ in weight. If injecting a thin gas (hydrogen) into Oxygen and Nitrogen (air) the hydrogen will instantly dispurse evenly in a given space (at almost the speed of sound). The steam injection will probably not dispurse very quickly, which will make the injection point critical. I will first try a water/alcohol mixture, then I will try alcohol only.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Since the volume of alcohol will be too low to actually burn, I expect that it will have a cooling effect on the cylindars, similar to the HHO welders that require Acetone or alcohol to keep the welding tip and flame cool enough to weld with.

[aardvarkinmud]

I think I see some electrical connections on the top. But what do you use as a heating element inside the can?

Also, I could guess that there might be some kind of saturation point you can reach. Do you have a way to adjust the amount of steam?

Thanks

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Hi and thanks for the question. There is no electricity needed and the connections on top of the unit are all plumbing connections. There is a coiled copper tube inside of the unit that is connected to the engine coolant. This raises the water/alcohol temp inside of the GEN to ~185 degrees f. There is a needle valve to control the output. I will install it this week, weather permitting.

[DannysCam]

im not very smart are you replacing gas with steam? want that rust a engine..

[OriginalUncleNemo]

I am not replacing gas. This is an experiment to see if steam can improve MPG. 

No, it will not rust the engine.

[crazzieg]

You might do short study on what the effects were when they did the steam injection in some of the fighter aircraft during WWII

[OriginalUncleNemo]

I'll check it out, thanks.

[newagemotor]

***YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR BRAKES*** DON'T DO IT! DON'T BELIEVE ME - CHECK WITH A TRUE AUTOMECHANIC FIRST. Your brakes use the same engine vacuum as what come from the PCV valve port. If you drop it your engine will run rough and your brake booster won't be able to do it's job anymore.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

I am not reducing the vacuum at the port, only the vacuum at the steam generator. This has no effect on the brakes. By the way, why in the world would you assume someone would try to reduce the vacuum at the manifold? Not to mention that all vehicles are different and mine doesn't even have a shared PCV/Brake vacuum port. No more scare tactics or panic posts please.

[robdham99]

I think you only need to input humidity and at ignition steam an thous expansion occurs.

[outdoorfan1]

It's been my experience that, although a vehicle at idle may register around 20 inches of vacuum, under load going down the road it may only be half that or less.

[hhoprofessor]

Hi

Good post, will certainly help the none mechanically minded people out there. I'm not so sure about the steam though. If nothing else educational to a lot of people "Good on Ya"

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Thanks Professor

[Boyntonstu]

Hydroxy generated can fill a balloon and its positive pressure needs to vacuum to reach the input air.

Have you considered adding a venturi to create vacuum for your steam.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

This is brand new and I am just trying to inject at the PCV with controlled vacuum for now. Great idea! If all goes well I will try different things to find the best performance.