@FishEaster Europe has quite a long recorded history of martial arts. Many of the movements shown are also present in the traditional European martial arts,they are recorded. In addition, techniques from American and European "Catch As Catch Can" fighting were studied by Japanese masters and added to their own arts in early 1900's. Please do not be so disrespectful if you are ignorant of the facts. We all have our own cultural arts and we all learn from each other, or at least we should. M.M.M.
@FishEaster Europe has quite a long recorded history of martial arts. Many of the movements here are also present in the traditional European martial arts, they are recorded. In addition, techniques from American and European "Catch As Catch Can" fighting were studied by Japanese masters and added to their own arts in early 1900's. Please do not be so disrespectful if you are ignorant of the facts. We all have our own cultural arts and we all learn from each other, or at least we should. M.M.M.
Shouldn't you be training your locks such that a follow up lock isn't necessary? If I put sankyo on somebody it is with the intent to completely control my opponent with that lock. I don't train the lock so that my opponent can maneuver out of it.
Good take on joint locking. We work a simillar form. Lately, we have been working to keep the lock very close to our bodies and trying to keep lock energy at all times. It's a constant work in progress. Hope to see you again at Mr. Gilman's! Our group will be working to learn the San shou form with him through this winter season. Tons of fun!
I like Hapkido but I prefer Tae Kwon do. I`m about to do My Chun Ji And honestly I don`t think your super good But I respect it, Its a hard art to master.
With no disrespect to your art why do you grad finger? I have been taught they fingers can be easily slipped. So I particularly grab the hand controlling the thumb.
Have you ever encountered it in an actual fight? O_o If they get a hold of your arm, you're screwed man. Every move you make is used against you, and if they intend to hurt you, it hurts like hell.
Really good reference. I have seen people in Japan absolutely destroy opponents with these tactics. There are very similar theories in Taijiquan (my discipline). it's always good to see other disciplines. It teaches you more about your own. Thanks for posting.
We all went through years and years of hard-style Karate. That's fine for young bodies. Now, we want to soften up our arts and it will allow us to sense our opponent's weakness better as well as allow us to continue training as we get older. What you see in this drill is largely small-circle jujitsu, but we are heavily influenced by our Yang-style Tai Chi Chuan.
And a real fight being what? Tossing haymakers all over the place? And when all else fails get on the ground and roll around, only to get up and resume the exact same thing? Theres only one reason these techniques have lasted hundreds to thousands of years, and that's because they work. Joint locks probably aren't the best technique, but if you were to fight someone who has trained in judo, krav maga, kento, hapkido, jujitsu or AFS their entire life, you'd realize this "bullshit" does work.
1 - When applied appropriately the lock-flow keeps the opponent in so much pain they cannot use the other hand. At no time is the pressure relieved. (I'm being a bit too nice to my partner) If you are fluent with locks, such as bent elbow wrist lock (Ni kyo), then hold your partner's wrist in lock position and ask him to strike at you with the other hand. When he goes to move, increase lock pressure and watch what direction his striking hand goes. Let me know what you find.
its good drills 2 practice but in real life if some attacks and you manage 2 get that first wrist lock YOU never ever let it go until the enemy is no longer a problem
"It is madness for a normal every day man to train so hard so that this combat moves become fluid to him."
i1641, you just downplayed all the legendary and true martial artists out there. Try fighting someone who has real experience and we'll see if those kickboxing (not kick-box techniques... you don't even know what you do) techniques consistently work.
Most likely not, because you just said "I believe MOST fighting stiles are efficient against an opponent which fights in the same stile."
When you put your skill strenght and speed agianst another the one with the more will win BJJ proves even if the guy is bigger and stronger than you it dont matter.
Oh really? Why did Royce Gracie lose to Matt Hughes? Why is Royler Gracie 5-4 in MMA?
Doing ONLY BJJ is disastrous against people who know actual martial arts. Unless you can properly defend against a powerful stand-up fighter, you'll need training in striking.
Royce made how much in that fight? By the looks of it he didnt train or prep for it either. Doing only BJJ in MMA yes is stupid. Doing only BJJ in a real fight will work more than any other style. So yes if you take both kickboxing and bjj and get into a street fight your in a good spot. concidering only about 20% of the population took a form of fighting. Thats an old satistic might be higher now but it still aint half.
Hey man, we can argue forever. Let's just stop here... you're clearly a well-informed person and I thought you weren't by that one comment from a while back. But we're both BJJ practitioners and continuously stating facts to each other will get us nowhere.
I'm happy you successfully defended yourself on the street with the art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (to apply it in such a situation requires a strong student). I wish you nothing but the best in your training! :)
I train in BJJ right now. I know it's the strongest submission system out there. But watch UFC's Rich Franklin (who had a strong stand-up) vs. Evan Tanner (submission specialist)... Rich Franklin hammered him (and I have plenty more examples of match-ups like this, including Frank Mir (top heavyweight BJJ fighter) vs. Ian Freeman (excellent striker)).
While BJJ has been proven to be highly effective, it's VERY ignorant to say what you just said, SandToof. Keep an open mind.
Royce first off won the first 3 UFC when the rules were more toward a real life fight. No bitting no eye gougeing. And no weight classes might I add. And he beat them all, boxer, wrestler, and judo you name it. The new rules of the UFC are more for the gen pop cause they see two guys rolling around and have no idea whats going on. More hype in KO's.
I knew you'd mention the first 3 UFCs. There were no credible fighters at the time. Royce Gracie was essentially the only one who knew what he was doing. Royce Gracie lost to Matt Hughes (a real UFC star). I respect Royce Gracie to death, he's a great Jiu-Jitsu ambassador... but in today's UFC world, he'd do much worse (and he never even bites or eye gouges...)
Mr White is slowing weeding out the jits. If you take bjj then you know your subs take time to set up and for the most part it can look like there is nothing going on when really the game is won by inches.
I have been in three fights on the street since my training and all of em didnt go past 60 sec with me on top and the guy on the bottom giving up asking me to stop. All cause of jits.
I am only 165lbs not alot of KO power I never finished fights on the street before till now. And not to mention I dont get hit in the face anymore either. Now I know these guys dont train.... sure and when I was in Karata, and Kickboxing they still didnt have traing but I wasnt winning those. Proff really is in the first 3 UFC no rules no classes "two men enter one man leaves"
How did you finish the guys with "jits?" Since you were on top, your offense is more limited to ground and pound and some good holds if they don't flinch too much. May I ask what belt you have?
If you fight anyone with actual fighting experience, you'd realize what you were saying back there was a fallacy. Now, BJJ is a superior art (obviously)... but against skilled fighters, you're in trouble because not everyone has the expertise of a Black Belt BJJ practitioner.
well I was kinda in smale package and had one of his arms trapped around his own neck and held it from behind his head. So when I held my fist up he was yelling " K I am done I am done".
Again MMA is not a real fight you cant compare the two. The first UFC's were as close as you can get to a real fight you can watch on TV. The UFC rules favour strickers cause like I said its better to show two guys stricking it out then rolling around you know that
nice to show you a flow,but in a real fight i say fuck that slap his throat/ears/stick his eyes /punch center chest do what you have to do with very little to end the fight!
Have you ever been in a real fight, 1012x2? By that comment, I seriously doubt you have. Go try what you just said on someone and the authorities will tell you what went wrong when after you wake up from the knockout...
Real street fights yes and I am old enough to know the diff. Cage fight no. BJJ tourneys yes. I live in Windsor right across from Detriot. So lots of police DT Windsor on a Sat night . If they see blood the toss everyone in the patty wagon and sort it out later.
Understanding grappling is as important as the kicking and punching of kickboxing. So many people are so anxious to prove that one is better than the other. Both are important, but it takes some humility to learn something you dont know or feel comfortable with.
Everyone knows that it is possible to drive a screw into a piece of wood with a hammer, but it's not necessarily the right tool for the job most times. Suppose you work in a hospital dealing with people who have had head injuries and one of them, for no apparent reason, becomes very angry about something. If he grabs hold of you, do you think it would be appropriate to then kick or punch him?
Yes i agree with you somewhat, i1641, i'm a boxer myself. But sometimes these moves can help if you're getiing attacked by someone who does this style, because most people who know this flow can knock away kicks and punches and lock you in a deadly hold. See what I mean?
horses for courses. What if your drunk sister in law attacks you with an ice pick? Or a 10 year old boy tries to bottle you to impress his stupid friends (any londoners reading will know what I mean!). Control and restraint has it's place... but anyone who thinks it'll work in the cage is ignorant.
Why kill when you can maim? Why maim when you can injure? Why injure when you can subdue? A true warrior knows the difference between setsujinken (the sword that takes life) and katsujinken (the sword that gives life). Not all fighting is in the ring. You really show your limited mind set with your statement. Plus you have failed to see all the killing points with this guy's movements
Good video but your entries into shiho-nage/giri at 1:05 and 1:50 are a bit risky for you. At 1:05 you say, "turn him" (which you should do) but unfortunately you don't actually TURN him at all; instead YOU are turning. This leaves you vulnerable. Instead, worry less about "pressing him away" with your left hand and use your left forearm to guide his locked elbow across his midline on a 45 degree angle. Think of his arm as a katana you are holding. Continued...
...His wrist is the tsuka/handle and his elbow is the back of the blade's center. Practice this "cut", edge up, as you guide the blade/arm upward. With practice, you can literally stand still as HE moves his body around you (in pain)....
...Currently he is the hub of the wheel and you are moving around him. This is slow and very disadvantageous as you turn your back to him in a pirouette (very noticeable at 1:50). If you choose, the final elbow /wrist position that he ends up in flow nicely into numerous ground locks after the takedown that I'm sure you have fun discovering
Every single movement in this flow can be a final takedown. There is no beginning or end. I have practiced multiple endings at all points. It is merely a video demonstrating transitional locking. Thank you for your comments.
In response to the comment at 1:05 (slightly changed to stay facing camera)You are correct, I would want him to move slightly more...however, I do not desire him to move entirely around me. I try to move myself in a manner that unifies (blends) energy so that I will have tremendous power to discharge upon him at the end of the throw. This energy is generated by my movement. If static then it must be generated by my muscular strength. I don't like relying on that.
The problem with the MMA fighter using moves like a "throat chew" is that they don't bother thinking of these moves, because that is not how they train. If you don't train "forbidden" moves you will not see the opportunity when it presents its' self. Sort of like how beginner may have many opportunities to throw/submit people, but can't because they are not familiar with the situation.
I don't wanna get sucked in but...true. If you are a fan of "Human Weapon" on the history channel, take a look at the matches with the big guy... He looses a huge number of his points in penalties for illegal moves. Same reason a lot of pride guys are having trouble in UFC. Their strategies were developed with a different rule set in mind.
MJED1978, ufc doesn't have anything on actual martial arts. Try grappling with an armed assailant. You've obviously never been in a joint lock. SO before you criticise, do some research.
Lock flow at its peak has no set pattern. At times we practice with our partner in a Randori style of give and take in which the technique used is more improvisational, and draws from whatever feels appropriate in that moment and circumstance. In this way no technique is discarded. Other times we want to practice specific techniques, so we have many other lock-flows that incorperate a variety of other movements as well.
Thank you for your input. If you listen to my opening comments on the video, I state that I would never intend to fight in this exact sequence. Rather, it is a matter of applying principles in motion. You compare these moves to what you see in the UFC....Several years back I was fortunate to share a teaching seminar with UFC fighter Matt Hume....His segment was all about joint lock flow on the floor; beautiful stuff, and very effective in the UFC as well.
To you good sirs I say, Excellent!
BlackJoo14 8 months ago
wow... lots of moves :)
xxLPgirl0xx 8 months ago
whys he fighting santa:/?
Stirzy2594 10 months ago
@FishEaster racist!
eyefuctyourwife 11 months ago
@FishEaster Europe has quite a long recorded history of martial arts. Many of the movements shown are also present in the traditional European martial arts,they are recorded. In addition, techniques from American and European "Catch As Catch Can" fighting were studied by Japanese masters and added to their own arts in early 1900's. Please do not be so disrespectful if you are ignorant of the facts. We all have our own cultural arts and we all learn from each other, or at least we should. M.M.M.
7The7Green7 1 year ago
@FishEaster Europe has quite a long recorded history of martial arts. Many of the movements here are also present in the traditional European martial arts, they are recorded. In addition, techniques from American and European "Catch As Catch Can" fighting were studied by Japanese masters and added to their own arts in early 1900's. Please do not be so disrespectful if you are ignorant of the facts. We all have our own cultural arts and we all learn from each other, or at least we should. M.M.M.
7The7Green7 1 year ago
Shouldn't you be training your locks such that a follow up lock isn't necessary? If I put sankyo on somebody it is with the intent to completely control my opponent with that lock. I don't train the lock so that my opponent can maneuver out of it.
nwaikikai 1 year ago
Good take on joint locking. We work a simillar form. Lately, we have been working to keep the lock very close to our bodies and trying to keep lock energy at all times. It's a constant work in progress. Hope to see you again at Mr. Gilman's! Our group will be working to learn the San shou form with him through this winter season. Tons of fun!
Red Shirt Brigade of gig Harbor.
chrisarena 1 year ago
@chrisarena
Hi Chris,
I might not make it in November because I am going to Tim Cartmell's seminar in Seattle the weekend before.
We spent almost a year learning the San Shou form and practice it every week, but I'm sure we'll make it down for some fun late winter.
-John
heyjt 1 year ago
@FishEaster true butt if a jap and a white guy are both black belts the one that would win is the one that put there heart and ,soul in it
yoto567 1 year ago
I like Hapkido but I prefer Tae Kwon do. I`m about to do My Chun Ji And honestly I don`t think your super good But I respect it, Its a hard art to master.
gjmk111 1 year ago
@FishEaster
Shurely you jest.
Perhaps you need to train with white boys.
You seem to mix Japanese terminology with Chinese.
Therefore, You are very confused for a traditionalist.
heyjt 1 year ago 3
fantastic
daseidokid 1 year ago
With no disrespect to your art why do you grad finger? I have been taught they fingers can be easily slipped. So I particularly grab the hand controlling the thumb.
stagolee24 1 year ago
Santa just got owned.
EternusNathrakh 1 year ago
very nice
HEADSTOMPSPECIALIST 2 years ago
Have you ever encountered it in an actual fight? O_o If they get a hold of your arm, you're screwed man. Every move you make is used against you, and if they intend to hurt you, it hurts like hell.
Manofaction0 2 years ago
Really good reference. I have seen people in Japan absolutely destroy opponents with these tactics. There are very similar theories in Taijiquan (my discipline). it's always good to see other disciplines. It teaches you more about your own. Thanks for posting.
richnwood2000 2 years ago 4
We are deep into Yang TCC Also.
Soften up those jujitsu patterns and you go more internal.
heyjt 2 years ago
@heyjt what is the practicality of ineternal martial arts as opposedd to external?
illlite 1 year ago
@illlite
We all went through years and years of hard-style Karate. That's fine for young bodies. Now, we want to soften up our arts and it will allow us to sense our opponent's weakness better as well as allow us to continue training as we get older. What you see in this drill is largely small-circle jujitsu, but we are heavily influenced by our Yang-style Tai Chi Chuan.
heyjt 1 year ago
wanna put your money where your mouth is ?
drtbgcsnova 2 years ago
...what if the the dude uses his other arm?
AridLeprechaun 2 years ago
Your question was answered 4 comments back by cwiscomb.
heyjt 2 years ago
ah, i see.
AridLeprechaun 2 years ago
And a real fight being what? Tossing haymakers all over the place? And when all else fails get on the ground and roll around, only to get up and resume the exact same thing? Theres only one reason these techniques have lasted hundreds to thousands of years, and that's because they work. Joint locks probably aren't the best technique, but if you were to fight someone who has trained in judo, krav maga, kento, hapkido, jujitsu or AFS their entire life, you'd realize this "bullshit" does work.
hexdontae 2 years ago
what about the other arm??
all ur focus is only on the left arm.
fireboy1126 2 years ago
2 things:
1 - When applied appropriately the lock-flow keeps the opponent in so much pain they cannot use the other hand. At no time is the pressure relieved. (I'm being a bit too nice to my partner) If you are fluent with locks, such as bent elbow wrist lock (Ni kyo), then hold your partner's wrist in lock position and ask him to strike at you with the other hand. When he goes to move, increase lock pressure and watch what direction his striking hand goes. Let me know what you find.
CWiscomb 2 years ago
lol im not gonna try it cuz my friends sux and dont wanna be my partner :D
ur answer no.1 already answer my question now ty
fireboy1126 2 years ago
its good drills 2 practice but in real life if some attacks and you manage 2 get that first wrist lock YOU never ever let it go until the enemy is no longer a problem
UnderstandingAll 2 years ago 2
you two communicate well, i like the drill.
Don612Juan 2 years ago
nice,
PuddingblendeR 2 years ago
"It is madness for a normal every day man to train so hard so that this combat moves become fluid to him."
i1641, you just downplayed all the legendary and true martial artists out there. Try fighting someone who has real experience and we'll see if those kickboxing (not kick-box techniques... you don't even know what you do) techniques consistently work.
Most likely not, because you just said "I believe MOST fighting stiles are efficient against an opponent which fights in the same stile."
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
When you put your skill strenght and speed agianst another the one with the more will win BJJ proves even if the guy is bigger and stronger than you it dont matter.
SandToof 2 years ago
what a pleasure it must be to train with nick nolte
jalidav1 2 years ago
HA, good one sir
diolade2002 2 years ago
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu still is better why train anything els
SandToof 2 years ago
Oh really? Why did Royce Gracie lose to Matt Hughes? Why is Royler Gracie 5-4 in MMA?
Doing ONLY BJJ is disastrous against people who know actual martial arts. Unless you can properly defend against a powerful stand-up fighter, you'll need training in striking.
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
Royce made how much in that fight? By the looks of it he didnt train or prep for it either. Doing only BJJ in MMA yes is stupid. Doing only BJJ in a real fight will work more than any other style. So yes if you take both kickboxing and bjj and get into a street fight your in a good spot. concidering only about 20% of the population took a form of fighting. Thats an old satistic might be higher now but it still aint half.
SandToof 2 years ago
Hey man, we can argue forever. Let's just stop here... you're clearly a well-informed person and I thought you weren't by that one comment from a while back. But we're both BJJ practitioners and continuously stating facts to each other will get us nowhere.
I'm happy you successfully defended yourself on the street with the art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (to apply it in such a situation requires a strong student). I wish you nothing but the best in your training! :)
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
Cool man never really consider us argueing more like debating but ya man best of luck to your training too
SandToof 2 years ago
I train in BJJ right now. I know it's the strongest submission system out there. But watch UFC's Rich Franklin (who had a strong stand-up) vs. Evan Tanner (submission specialist)... Rich Franklin hammered him (and I have plenty more examples of match-ups like this, including Frank Mir (top heavyweight BJJ fighter) vs. Ian Freeman (excellent striker)).
While BJJ has been proven to be highly effective, it's VERY ignorant to say what you just said, SandToof. Keep an open mind.
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
Royce first off won the first 3 UFC when the rules were more toward a real life fight. No bitting no eye gougeing. And no weight classes might I add. And he beat them all, boxer, wrestler, and judo you name it. The new rules of the UFC are more for the gen pop cause they see two guys rolling around and have no idea whats going on. More hype in KO's.
SandToof 2 years ago
I knew you'd mention the first 3 UFCs. There were no credible fighters at the time. Royce Gracie was essentially the only one who knew what he was doing. Royce Gracie lost to Matt Hughes (a real UFC star). I respect Royce Gracie to death, he's a great Jiu-Jitsu ambassador... but in today's UFC world, he'd do much worse (and he never even bites or eye gouges...)
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
Mr White is slowing weeding out the jits. If you take bjj then you know your subs take time to set up and for the most part it can look like there is nothing going on when really the game is won by inches.
SandToof 2 years ago
I have been in three fights on the street since my training and all of em didnt go past 60 sec with me on top and the guy on the bottom giving up asking me to stop. All cause of jits.
SandToof 2 years ago
I am only 165lbs not alot of KO power I never finished fights on the street before till now. And not to mention I dont get hit in the face anymore either. Now I know these guys dont train.... sure and when I was in Karata, and Kickboxing they still didnt have traing but I wasnt winning those. Proff really is in the first 3 UFC no rules no classes "two men enter one man leaves"
SandToof 2 years ago
How did you finish the guys with "jits?" Since you were on top, your offense is more limited to ground and pound and some good holds if they don't flinch too much. May I ask what belt you have?
If you fight anyone with actual fighting experience, you'd realize what you were saying back there was a fallacy. Now, BJJ is a superior art (obviously)... but against skilled fighters, you're in trouble because not everyone has the expertise of a Black Belt BJJ practitioner.
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
well I was kinda in smale package and had one of his arms trapped around his own neck and held it from behind his head. So when I held my fist up he was yelling " K I am done I am done".
SandToof 2 years ago
Again MMA is not a real fight you cant compare the two. The first UFC's were as close as you can get to a real fight you can watch on TV. The UFC rules favour strickers cause like I said its better to show two guys stricking it out then rolling around you know that
SandToof 2 years ago
Depends on who you are fighting in the street. BJJ is good, but in the streetfights I have been in it is best to avoid the ground.
ronin752 2 years ago
nice to show you a flow,but in a real fight i say fuck that slap his throat/ears/stick his eyes /punch center chest do what you have to do with very little to end the fight!
1012x2 2 years ago
Sometimes you have to control a person without hitting them. Hospital staff, School authorities, Cops, parents, drunk friends, --- think about it.
heyjt 2 years ago
"take their inertia, use it against them"... or ... "the bigger they are, the harder they fall". HKD is great bio-ergonomics & physics.
BeeRich33 2 years ago
Well put, we don't cripple, kill, maim or destroy everyone!
dustinsbunnell 2 years ago
your right on that on the other hand if some stranger his trying to hurt you ,then you owe him is to kick his ass quick.
1012x2 2 years ago 2
Have you ever been in a real fight, 1012x2? By that comment, I seriously doubt you have. Go try what you just said on someone and the authorities will tell you what went wrong when after you wake up from the knockout...
seaFoodSifu 2 years ago
Real street fights yes and I am old enough to know the diff. Cage fight no. BJJ tourneys yes. I live in Windsor right across from Detriot. So lots of police DT Windsor on a Sat night . If they see blood the toss everyone in the patty wagon and sort it out later.
SandToof 2 years ago
Understanding grappling is as important as the kicking and punching of kickboxing. So many people are so anxious to prove that one is better than the other. Both are important, but it takes some humility to learn something you dont know or feel comfortable with.
ronin752 3 years ago 2
Well put!
tomasconleche 2 years ago
Everyone knows that it is possible to drive a screw into a piece of wood with a hammer, but it's not necessarily the right tool for the job most times. Suppose you work in a hospital dealing with people who have had head injuries and one of them, for no apparent reason, becomes very angry about something. If he grabs hold of you, do you think it would be appropriate to then kick or punch him?
pugilistica 3 years ago
Yes i agree with you somewhat, i1641, i'm a boxer myself. But sometimes these moves can help if you're getiing attacked by someone who does this style, because most people who know this flow can knock away kicks and punches and lock you in a deadly hold. See what I mean?
MilleniumTen 3 years ago
horses for courses. What if your drunk sister in law attacks you with an ice pick? Or a 10 year old boy tries to bottle you to impress his stupid friends (any londoners reading will know what I mean!). Control and restraint has it's place... but anyone who thinks it'll work in the cage is ignorant.
JohnColt 3 years ago
Why kill when you can maim? Why maim when you can injure? Why injure when you can subdue? A true warrior knows the difference between setsujinken (the sword that takes life) and katsujinken (the sword that gives life). Not all fighting is in the ring. You really show your limited mind set with your statement. Plus you have failed to see all the killing points with this guy's movements
bushin64 3 years ago
that was beatiful... thanks a lot man..
windweaver82 3 years ago
ehh...
id like to see an advanced tai chi practitioner go against an advanced aikido practitioner...
anyone know where any videos of this is? I think tai chi would be a great counter to all this
redsamuraidragon 3 years ago
that's silat I think
tigre777blanco 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing
popeye4u1967 4 years ago
I like it.thanks for sharing.
thelighthousekeeper 4 years ago
Sorry, those responses are in reverse order
sharontatesbaby 4 years ago
Good video but your entries into shiho-nage/giri at 1:05 and 1:50 are a bit risky for you. At 1:05 you say, "turn him" (which you should do) but unfortunately you don't actually TURN him at all; instead YOU are turning. This leaves you vulnerable. Instead, worry less about "pressing him away" with your left hand and use your left forearm to guide his locked elbow across his midline on a 45 degree angle. Think of his arm as a katana you are holding. Continued...
sharontatesbaby 4 years ago
...His wrist is the tsuka/handle and his elbow is the back of the blade's center. Practice this "cut", edge up, as you guide the blade/arm upward. With practice, you can literally stand still as HE moves his body around you (in pain)....
sharontatesbaby 4 years ago
...Currently he is the hub of the wheel and you are moving around him. This is slow and very disadvantageous as you turn your back to him in a pirouette (very noticeable at 1:50). If you choose, the final elbow /wrist position that he ends up in flow nicely into numerous ground locks after the takedown that I'm sure you have fun discovering
sharontatesbaby 4 years ago
Every single movement in this flow can be a final takedown. There is no beginning or end. I have practiced multiple endings at all points. It is merely a video demonstrating transitional locking. Thank you for your comments.
CWiscomb 4 years ago
In response to the comment at 1:05 (slightly changed to stay facing camera)You are correct, I would want him to move slightly more...however, I do not desire him to move entirely around me. I try to move myself in a manner that unifies (blends) energy so that I will have tremendous power to discharge upon him at the end of the throw. This energy is generated by my movement. If static then it must be generated by my muscular strength. I don't like relying on that.
CWiscomb 4 years ago
Your responses are very Aiki in their comparison to katana. I can appreciate that, so I will cut to the point.
CWiscomb 4 years ago
i use the energy to get out of pins
ninjadude126 4 years ago
The problem with the MMA fighter using moves like a "throat chew" is that they don't bother thinking of these moves, because that is not how they train. If you don't train "forbidden" moves you will not see the opportunity when it presents its' self. Sort of like how beginner may have many opportunities to throw/submit people, but can't because they are not familiar with the situation.
kirokyukan 4 years ago
I don't wanna get sucked in but...true. If you are a fan of "Human Weapon" on the history channel, take a look at the matches with the big guy... He looses a huge number of his points in penalties for illegal moves. Same reason a lot of pride guys are having trouble in UFC. Their strategies were developed with a different rule set in mind.
JohnChivez 4 years ago
An excellent video, very clearly presented and a very useful, effective drill with proficient execution of techniques. Well done.
dandjurdjevic 4 years ago
MJED1978, ufc doesn't have anything on actual martial arts. Try grappling with an armed assailant. You've obviously never been in a joint lock. SO before you criticise, do some research.
ThemSweetShoes 4 years ago
Nice Osae Dori...If you dont mind me asking did you leave out Hiki Nage & Hakko Zemi because it was a drill?
waterbushi 4 years ago
Lock flow at its peak has no set pattern. At times we practice with our partner in a Randori style of give and take in which the technique used is more improvisational, and draws from whatever feels appropriate in that moment and circumstance. In this way no technique is discarded. Other times we want to practice specific techniques, so we have many other lock-flows that incorperate a variety of other movements as well.
CWiscomb 4 years ago
Thank you for your input. If you listen to my opening comments on the video, I state that I would never intend to fight in this exact sequence. Rather, it is a matter of applying principles in motion. You compare these moves to what you see in the UFC....Several years back I was fortunate to share a teaching seminar with UFC fighter Matt Hume....His segment was all about joint lock flow on the floor; beautiful stuff, and very effective in the UFC as well.
CWiscomb 4 years ago
I looked to see if Matt had any video of him on YouTube, but unfortunately it was not available at this time.
CWiscomb 4 years ago
Classy response to a dumb comment. ;o)
sportgrappler 4 years ago