@KKM121 Type "Assessing Commercial Space Capabilities" into Google, should be the first hit. You're looking for the commerce.senate.gov link. March 18, 2010.
@KKM121 I did a bit of editorializing in the info of the vid, just so you know, maybe a wee bit unfair. It wasn't a debate or a back and forth or anything. You'll note another comment here saying SpaceX slipped their launch date, I didn't respond but part of that was due to range issues and STS problems, COTS-A was successful and COTS-B-C should happen this November!
SpaceX was founded 8 years ago and has since designed developed and launched 2 different classes of vehicle to LEO, been awarded billions in contracts and has dozens of launches ordered already.
8 years is quite literally a lifetime for this company. 3 years to do some testing? hah.
3 years to get the Dragon man rated seems fine. They just did a perfect splash landing test today and it will be docking with the ISS so it will have manoeuvring, docking, and landing capabilities well before 3 years. They've had this in mind from the beginning, shipping cargo is practically viewed as a stepping stone to getting people to space.
Also try to remember SpaceX did its first launch attempt a mere 2 years ago. The estimate of 8 years to get the Dragon man-rated is laughable.
nasa+jpl are run like the post office and the dmv and hoover dam...all over bloated corrupt and wastefull $ spending of space dollars!...and please space-x fuck over every redneck russian you can find!
@rocketshipstud1 Hehe, you're a lively fellow. Thanks for watching the video. And yeah, I wouldn't put it in that colorful language, but SpaceX is the most promising space company to come along in quite some time. NASA needs to go all private industry / milestone / COTS-style bids. It would save taxpayers billions and we'd have a better space program for it.
@mecher3k Falcon 9 + Dragon. Built for less than the cost of Orion, which failed two drop tests and has never even been flown. Built for less than the pad upgrades for Ares I. Built less than the mere R&D for Ares I up until it was cancelled. Built less than a half a years budget for STS. Yes, we'd have a damn better space program for it. There's no debating it.
@mecher3k NASA became a boondoggle when they decided to go with STS, then Cx, maintaining a jobs program rather than efficient space program. Elon Musk is correct in saying that we can do commercial crew cheaper and quicker doing it his way, the capitalist way. The only retarded person here is one who cannot recognize that SpaceX has accomplished something only nations do. Yes, it used a lot of known data, but that doesn't change anything. Rockets are not easy.
@mecher3k I know all your attacks. your fighting isnt unique.
look inward, angry one. the issues you're arguing about aren't important to you. you dont actually care. there is a fire within you, driving you, and its probably not to do with rockets and space stations.
the russians charge every single nasa astronaut a 56$ million ticket for a soyuz ride up to the space station! (history: soyuz has murdered cosmonauts in its malfunctions)...space-x falcon-9 dragon is on target!
@dks13827 Dragon is man rated for COTS-A-C, which requires 1) working in the vacuum of space and 2) allowing humans inside. It is very hard for me to believe that a pusher escape system is going to take 8 years to develop. 3 years may be a little optimistic, but not much more than that.
@dks13827 One more thing, no one besides you has predicted an eight year development time and you're words aren't being made part of the congressional record.
May I please know where to find the full recording of the hearing???
Thank you!!!
KKM121 6 months ago
@KKM121 Type "Assessing Commercial Space Capabilities" into Google, should be the first hit. You're looking for the commerce.senate.gov link. March 18, 2010.
joshcryer 6 months ago
@joshcryer Found it. Thank you so much!!
I support Space X, but I really want to hear what the skeptics have to say.
KKM121 6 months ago
@KKM121 I did a bit of editorializing in the info of the vid, just so you know, maybe a wee bit unfair. It wasn't a debate or a back and forth or anything. You'll note another comment here saying SpaceX slipped their launch date, I didn't respond but part of that was due to range issues and STS problems, COTS-A was successful and COTS-B-C should happen this November!
joshcryer 6 months ago
2:18 - "...demonstrate cargo capability to the ISS in less than a year..." If not by now, when? Rumor is, late months of 2011. Reliable?
Worldizzabiz 8 months ago
Sen. Nelson doesn't look convinced at all. Which makes it all the more satisfying to watch Space X just blow right past all his expectations.
Ms Shotwell is not exaggerating. SpaceX can and already has done SOOO much on a fraction of NASA's budget.
I FREAKIN' LOVE IT!!!
BTW I love NASA with heart and soul, but commercial (as in all things) is where it's really at.
I imagine Space X will be the Apple Inc. of spaceflight, except without all the douchiness.
baillou2 1 year ago
@mecher3k, if you want your comments to be allowed, be substantiative. Thanks.
joshcryer 1 year ago
SpaceX was founded 8 years ago and has since designed developed and launched 2 different classes of vehicle to LEO, been awarded billions in contracts and has dozens of launches ordered already.
8 years is quite literally a lifetime for this company. 3 years to do some testing? hah.
Idiomatick 1 year ago
3 years to get the Dragon man rated seems fine. They just did a perfect splash landing test today and it will be docking with the ISS so it will have manoeuvring, docking, and landing capabilities well before 3 years. They've had this in mind from the beginning, shipping cargo is practically viewed as a stepping stone to getting people to space.
Also try to remember SpaceX did its first launch attempt a mere 2 years ago. The estimate of 8 years to get the Dragon man-rated is laughable.
Idiomatick 1 year ago
Ask General Stafford how long he thinks. Or A. Thomas Young. Two very experienced aerospace guys.
dks13827 1 year ago
Recent congressional hearings with Armstrong and Cernan indicated that 10 or more years might be realistic, actually.
dks13827 1 year ago
nasa+jpl are run like the post office and the dmv and hoover dam...all over bloated corrupt and wastefull $ spending of space dollars!...and please space-x fuck over every redneck russian you can find!
rocketshipstud1 1 year ago
@rocketshipstud1 Hehe, you're a lively fellow. Thanks for watching the video. And yeah, I wouldn't put it in that colorful language, but SpaceX is the most promising space company to come along in quite some time. NASA needs to go all private industry / milestone / COTS-style bids. It would save taxpayers billions and we'd have a better space program for it.
joshcryer 1 year ago
@joshcryer
" we'd have a better space program for it."
Bullshit.
mecher3k 1 year ago
@mecher3k Falcon 9 + Dragon. Built for less than the cost of Orion, which failed two drop tests and has never even been flown. Built for less than the pad upgrades for Ares I. Built less than the mere R&D for Ares I up until it was cancelled. Built less than a half a years budget for STS. Yes, we'd have a damn better space program for it. There's no debating it.
joshcryer 1 year ago
@joshcryer
That's right there is no debating it.
Apollo missions. You lose.
That and everything all those companies are doing is oddly enough built off of NASA's work.
Fucking retard, you obviously have no clue just how much NASA does.
But yes, let's just quit space exploration and have companies do it for us, right?
Also NASA needs to go back to being lead by engineers.
But as I said already, you are retarded.
mecher3k 1 year ago
@mecher3k NASA became a boondoggle when they decided to go with STS, then Cx, maintaining a jobs program rather than efficient space program. Elon Musk is correct in saying that we can do commercial crew cheaper and quicker doing it his way, the capitalist way. The only retarded person here is one who cannot recognize that SpaceX has accomplished something only nations do. Yes, it used a lot of known data, but that doesn't change anything. Rockets are not easy.
joshcryer 1 year ago
@mecher3k if you werent so angry maybe you could think straight
moneyman10k 1 year ago
@moneyman10k
Learn how to type before you even attempt to say how others should act.
mecher3k 1 year ago
@mecher3k I know all your attacks. your fighting isnt unique.
look inward, angry one. the issues you're arguing about aren't important to you. you dont actually care. there is a fire within you, driving you, and its probably not to do with rockets and space stations.
moneyman10k 1 year ago
"earth girls are easy ms shagwell!" (only kidding)
rocketshipstud1 1 year ago
the russians charge every single nasa astronaut a 56$ million ticket for a soyuz ride up to the space station! (history: soyuz has murdered cosmonauts in its malfunctions)...space-x falcon-9 dragon is on target!
rocketshipstud1 1 year ago
@rocketshipstud1 If you want to get technical NASA has murder its astronauts in their vehicle malfunctions too.
Craigthepope 1 year ago
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MrSueVeneer 1 year ago
@MrSueVeneer Think before you speak, the rockets are built by Americans.
Craigthepope 1 year ago
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MrSueVeneer 1 year ago
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MrSueVeneer 1 year ago
she is well meaning but naive, incredibly. A very dangerous combination since others might believe her. 8 years is more realistic, approximately.
dks13827 1 year ago
@dks13827 Dragon is man rated for COTS-A-C, which requires 1) working in the vacuum of space and 2) allowing humans inside. It is very hard for me to believe that a pusher escape system is going to take 8 years to develop. 3 years may be a little optimistic, but not much more than that.
joshcryer 1 year ago
@dks13827 Eight years? What have you been smoking? I don't believe even the Shuttle took eight years to develop.
Craigthepope 1 year ago
@dks13827 One more thing, no one besides you has predicted an eight year development time and you're words aren't being made part of the congressional record.
Craigthepope 1 year ago
For extra lulz try it with captions
spacex = safe sex
5:25
Specifically if nasa relies on
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the thing that we kidnapped her life on
BeingSomeoneHuman 1 year ago