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I love a good debate but this chick has so many negitive comments, I can't see some of her more ingorant comments. Besides, bowing to her as in her name states... Isn't that considered blasphemous? Lol, no intellgent debate goes by without one silly mudslinger.
@You13owMe13itch oh, relax, and go read your Bible. I'm sure it's responsible for your calm, collected and polite thoughts. (Or take some Thorazine). Leave the thinking to the big girls...
I am a 27 yr. old atheist psychologist, and I think the religious folk need a reminder:
The obligation for 'proof' - in UFOs, gods, the Loch Ness monster, etc. - is the sole responsibility of the person with the evidence. You don't ask someone to disprove the fact that Thor causes thunder? If you insist on believing in the supernatural, any of them will do: In the case of gods, goddesses and faery tales, there are a plethora to choose from: Greek mythology, Hans Christian Anderson,Tolkien...
@Medwynsmum Wow, prove Psychology is real. Seriously, Prove love is real. You cannot, now I know you are going to go into some typical atheist jargon about documented proof, but in reality Psychology is the theory of how the human mind works. So prove there is a mind. Prove everything. God bless.
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I feel like there are so many atheists out there who chose to deny God because their life sucked so bad. I feel sorry for them. They are like the little emos in my High School who couldn't deal with their problems. We all got fuckin problems. Why don't you guys man the fuck up and blame yourself for your own problems. Feel like im dealing with a bunch of pussys all the time and yet I'm the weak one for believing.
@You13ow2Me13itch like einstine. what an emo highschool kid! what a weak minded fuck right? please dont feel sorry for einstine and his lack of a belief in a god! i think he did alright for himself!
@You13ow2Me13itch i think its sad that after every thing we talked about, all youve got for me is a misspelled word. winning a debate feels good. spelling isnt my strong point. i study physics, not spelling. ill admit to my flaws, and atleast they arent with my ability to rationaly juge fact from fantasy. oh, and i looked up job. lol. "God created dragons so wonderfully that they are invulnerable to any attack
by conventional weapons, and are invincible in combat." Job 41:7-10 COME ON MAN!
@SuperAthiest1 Your entire debate consisted of assumptions, false accusations, completely false statements, restating the same shit and misspelled words. You have not successfully beaten me in any topic discussed. Your fuckin pathetic i dont even know why i bother to continue this conversation. If you don't believe me than I hope you will after my next statement. That was a completely false quote of the bible in which you wrote above. I'm guessing you got that online. Ur fuckin pathetic.
@You13ow2Me13itch how very "christlike" of you. if you want people to believe in your mind rot. you might wanna try following it. sorry i made you so mad. enjoy your duck. lol.
@You13ow2Me13itch My husband, an (atheist) professor of Theology, and I, have translated the Bible from the original Hebrew, Aramaic, & Koine Greek. There are six or seven allegorical references to dragons in the original texts, but there are actually two which survive translation. You're probably only looking at 1 or 2 versions of said book; did you know that there are dozens?
You cannot 'win' a debate when one never occurred. Obviously, you need attention: for 200/hr., I'd be happy to help
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@Medwynsmum Okay lady seriously you need to stop talking to me. What are you talking about that i cannot win a debate that never occurred? First off...how the fuck do you know? For your information I had a debate with super athiest on countless other threads that lasted for like 3 days. Thats the debate i was talking about you dumb bitch. And i could really care less how many languages you speak. Your not impressing me or nebody else. Quit opening your mouth unless u have somethign relevant.
@You13ow2Me13itch for someone fixated on spelling errors maybe you should take a good look at your user name. last time i checked numbers are not letters. also, it wouldn't hurt to brush up on some basic grammar.
@roadkillcondom Lmao your powers of observation serve you well. "Numbers are not letters." I can't believe I never noticed that! You have enlightened me to change my ways and create a more suitable user name that will be more aesthetically pleasing to you. You're right though. Usually I am not fixated on spelling and grammar because my own is actually not that good either, but his was so pathetic I had to say something.
Just another antichrist here,there will be many who claim to hate the father with lies but in the end after many years they all turn to god,its funny how when your a child you will belive any thing then when you start having health problems they all turn praise and follw god.praise the father always and forever and I pray the father always most of you wake up to see your wrongs.
@OrthodoxDarwinist Yea, well, we will see who the cry babby cunt is when you die and pass away to hell buring for ever and ever and ever and ever.Satan will be right there with you, have a good burn.
Ah the good old: unless you follow this lunatic Yahweh monster you will burn in hell.
I will tell you the truth you fear: If Yahdick was as "loving" and kind as you pretended, why would he send those whom don't worship him to burn for eternity? Can't you see that that is the very definition of a psychopath, megalomaniac,masochistic devil?
@OrthodoxDarwinist Well obviously you know nothing of the religion in which you hate. God doesn't send anyone to hell, they earn it themselves. And yet in many religions they don't believe that you "burn" for eternity. Many believe that hell is just the absence of the light. Atleast be a little educated on the topic in which you choose to slander dumbass.
I recommend you perform a YouTube search for videos about Islam, there are people speaking out against the claim that there's such a thing as Islamophobia. The fact that the term even exists belies your claim that we only ever claim anything about Christianity and no other religion.
I love Christians that think atheists arent upset about Islam. It shows you haven't spent much time doing research on the atheist point of view. It also shows your lack of understanding of Islam which includes the old testament as holy scripture. Trust me im just as sickened by islam as I am by christianity.
How can you disprove someone that does not exist? God must exist. You must become a God to know there is no God anywhere in the world. A God has infinite knowledge. Do you have infinite knowledge?
There's just one problem with your argument. You're making claims about the existence of a God or Gods without providing any evidence that supports your claims, then you assert indirectly that God (which one by the way?) cannot be detected, THEN you commit the logical fallacy that, because we don't have God-like powers, it's impossible for us to say that God doesn't exist, ERGO the God of the Bible SPECIFICALLY, DOES EXIST (committing a non-sequitur in the process). And you can't see the error?
you must have taken a college course in critical thinking. great. i have to. you must have infinite knowledge to know there is no spirit being with infinite knowedge. answer that without a smokescreen. all those big words will not help you when you stand for before GOD in judgement. the HOLY BIBLE states that only a fool believes there is no GOD. the only fallacy that i have committed is communicating with a fool. your pride is overuling your heart and soul. i cannot change you.
Threatening someone with hell is not impressive. I'm not as weak minded as you are, that's why it doesn't work. The Bible can state anything it wants, but without evidence to back it up I will never take it seriously. The fact that you are so credulous as to accept it's BS without question says more about your lack of critical thinking than it does about my supposedly being a fool. You know, calling someone a fool because he's not stupid enough to accept faith based claims when YOU blindly...
follow a religion based not on evidence, but based on faith based claims, personal credulity, and wishful thinking... That's projecting your own foolishness onto others.
As to your point... I can make evidence-based claims. I don't have to be infinitely powerful to be able to determine the results of an infinitely powerful being's influence on the universe. And I don't claim that an infinitely powerful being doesn't exist, just the specific claims of specific religions.
The Bible is full of caveats such as these (these are paraphrased btw): Better to have never believed than to believe and turn away and reject God. The one unforgivable sin is to reject God.
These caveats are in place to make not believing a huge risk for religious people, a risk they aren't willing to take.
whoa easy man.. just take a breath and calm down.. no need to keep pwning these christians.. its not that they are wrong.. its that they live in a world fixed in pure imagination.. someday they will realize how precious this life is and until then.. screw them :) cheers
1) Evidence for such a ludicrous claim? Oh, that's right. There isn't any.
2) "Laws" in Scientific lingo are statements that the universe MUST (or else) operate a given way. They are OBSERVATIONS that the universe DOES operate this way and we can PREDICT what will happen by using them. They're no more prescriptive laws to be used in a court than our man-made laws of "do not kill" are descriptive laws that people don't commit murder (they obviously do at times).
Have you ever heard the term Ass Backward. Well that's what your statement is.
Science and Physics don't need some abstract concept to create it. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's god. you Caveman The universe is with or without a god or us. Stop thinking we are the epitome of creation and open your eyes, realize that our existence is but a fraction of a fraction of time in this universe.
Do our lives even serve a purpose? Question still Valid.
Modern science shows that no "gods" or "Toothfairies" can exist, beause they would break the laws of physics. Religions, gods and so on were first invented in the stone age, and for instance the judeo-christian one, was based on bronze age myths. Hmmm, I wonder what's more likely..that ancient flat-earthers were right and that there is some invisible guy/guys in the sky...or that modern science is right and the gods are just in believers' fantasies? Tough question..really hard to figure out, eh?
IF there is a God, I truly believe man fucked up whatever great love he had to show. I would also have to believe that every religious person would have to be forgiving for following the wrong religion. If a man is Muslim and he loves his God, family and fellow man. That man should be rewarded just the same as the Christian man who does the same. Once again, man has distorted religion. This is my opinion.
BTW folks, you cannot prove no God, or God. Both beliefs are based on faith. Science still has not proven there is no God. Either way, both Atheists and religious people are just as equally right or wrong. Don't bother arguing with me over it. Finally, WE ALL WILL FIND OUT WHEN WE DIE!!
Correct on the inability to prove the existence or non existence of supernatural deities, but do you think about why this is? Perhaps it has something to do with the rather convenient (for the Theist) declaration that God (which one by the way?) is outside of space and time, and therefore, past our ability to detect? Well, we can say the same thing about any man-made belief...
I can sit here and invent Yithrilium, a God who is all powerful and exists only in the mind of the believer, cannot be detected etc. Can we test this? No. Can we say this God doesn't exist? No because we cannot detect it's existence or non existence. How convenient.
I'm scandinavian and most people don't believe in gods and so on over here, but it's nice to see that also many americans are beginning to go atheist now. Good luck in getting rid of "God" and "Jesus", keep up the good work! :)
BeerGoggles. Yes, according to surveys some 85 percent of the swedes don't believe in god, and thenumbers are similar for Norway and Denmark too. A bit more believers in those two, but not much. :)
Your past statement is a common misunderstanding about Christians. We do not do good works to please a God. Rather, we do good works for the sake of helping people. Good works does not win a Christian any brownie points with God. This point goes along with the misunderstanding that the gateway to heaven is by doing good works here on Earth. Ex. The better person we are, the better chance of going to heaven. A basic understanding of Christianity would prove that thinking wrong.
if one never attempts to have a relationship with a God, then how can one know that there is no God?
ex. if one states that there are no cookies in the cookie jar yet he/she never checks, then the possibility of a cookie being in the jar is all the more possible.
You are such a dumb brainwashed christian. Obviously, most people that are now "coming out" as atheist have been brainwashed their whole lives as part of some kind of religion. They believed everything you believe and they prayed as much as you probably pray,and finally they realized that through reason and logic the most probable thing is that there is no tooth fairy, Santa Claus, God, or any other magical Disney character above us, inside us, beside us, or wherever.
Dude... this documentary is made by a former Christian, and I don't mean just "my family is Christian and I called myself Christian" type of guy. I'm talking about the kind who was sent to a private Christian school etc. Then was studying theology, I believe he said, and the more he studied the more he realized the bible is full of BS.
Just watch the documentary instead of arguing in the comment section of a movie I'm pretty sure you haven't seen yet.
Dude...Lee Strobel was an athesis who didn't believe in a God cause he thought it was all BS. Then he studied the bible and its orgin and became a Christian with several top selling books on the subject. check out "Case for Christ" and see for yourself.
I own The Case For The Creator, I've read it. I always look at both sides, I didn't just pick a side and choose to defend it. All HARD scientific evidence points to the bible being false. If you believe in a Creator that is one thing, if you believe Christianity you're a fool.
But more importantly, Strobel has nothing to do with anything given we aren't fighting in the comment section for a video for one of Strobel's books. Do your own research and watch the documentary.
i was pointing out that people have switched from being an athesis to christian and christian to athesis. in fact if you do a little research on that topic, the stats are heavy on athesis to christian. but it is funny that we tend to say science points towards the bible being false when in fact the bible is the most trusted historical document. it is shocking how accurate (in a historical light) the bible is. and i dont believe anyone claims that the bible is scientifically accurate.
Yes, the history that they did fit into the bible is accurate. Its still no more accurate than the fictional books and movies written about say WW2, historically accurate? Yes it is. True story? no not at all. And what does science have to do with it being historically accurate anyway? They're completely unrelated. Also, many Christians do claim the bible is scientifically accurate, not all probably not even most but a lot do.
As a christian myself, I do not believe the bible to be scientifically accurate. Take the ten plagues for example. As far as I know, science has claimed that these ten plagues (happening all in a short time-frame) is impossible. Thus supporting the belief that these plagues (if real), were reaults of a miracle. Which is what christians believe. If science were to prove the possibility of this miracle to have accured, then the bible would be scientifically accurate after all...wouldn't it?
I assume you are refering to Heru (offten mistaken for the Greek Horus) the Egyptian god. Yeah, he was the god of the sun and sky if i remember. He may have also been the god of war as well. I do know Ramesses II (believed to be the pharaoh of the Exodus) saw Heru as the most powerful god and most important untill his death. His tomb has no acknowledgement of the god Heru.
I could be mistaken on some facts. Its been a while.
I'm pretty sure he goes by Horus as well as Heru...
My point of that is Jesus was definitely not the first God to die on a cross, Horus did the same thing. There are many many other things in common with Jesus and Horus that I haven't found information on myself so those will be left out. You think the God could've been a little more original when sending a Messiah though don't you? Seems like God did the whole Jesus thing pretty half-assed and of course left no evidence behind.
Horus (Heru) was never crucified. There's a story in which he is killed by Set and is cast in pieces into the water, then later fished out by a crocodile at Isis' request. This story is the only one in which he dies at all. I have just spent the last three hours in my university library and could not find one encyclopedia nor book that claimed Horus was crucified.
Huh, interesting. Given how many claims there are he was crucified. Anyway, since you searched in legitimate books, I'm assuming, and I haven't, I apologize for making a false claim.
Tomorrow I'll come back with you with the name of another crucified God, I'm too tired tonight and can't find the name. All I have is the image of a carving well before Jesus but I don't recall the name and it is really hard to search for ancient crucified gods without getting Jesus or Horus.
But one thing I can leave you with is Jesus is definitely not the first God to go to hell then to heaven. Other Gods and Myths like this include. Osirus, Adonis, Tammuz, Zalmoxis, Phoenix, Baldr and Odin. So that's definitely not even close to original.
I will try my damned hardest to find this crucified God before Jesus though. There is a book of sixteen crucified saviors but its incredibly sketchy. And I can't find much information online for the majority of them.
Granted, you can say that the evidence isn't proving the bible wrong and those parts of the bible are just "stories" not meant to be taken literally. Genesis is false, that clearly is not how the world was created. So now more and more Christians view Genesis as a "story" instead of literal.
But back to Strobel, just because an atheist becomes a Christian through how he viewed science doesn't make him right. I'll even say the same goes for a Christian turning Atheist.
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You people should stop attacking God, you're just proving that their is one by obsessing over Him and His followers. No one says Allah isn't real, no one says Buddha isn't real... you all go after the real deal, God... the one true God.
Must say though that its very sad to see people who calls themselves christian and speak of executing other people. Bible tells clearly, thou shall not comit murder.
Its strange that Christianity always get so much attention. Especially Jesus. This video just makes me more confident in my belief in Christ. Cos it proves there is something speciall with my God and my faith.
just stating..... are you guys so low that all you do is sit at your computer and dis people who believe in god...... wellll we know that you aren't going to heaven.. so why not believe in god for the just in case matter.......
"so why not believe in god for the just in case matter....... "
why don't you read 'pascal's wager' and understand why that statement is baseless.
of all the past god's, how can you be sure you belive in the right one? their book's say the same retorical statements, that their god is the only god. perhaps you should believe in zeus, thor, allah, or any of the other 100's of god's.
I've read pascal's wager. It states that there is more positive in believing in God than there would be not. Christianity is the most popular religion with the most evidence of existence. God offers eternal life, or hell. As nothing offers purgatory and reincarnation.
Pascals wager is wrong bc if ur god is all-knowing then dont u think he would know that ur just believing in him bc ur afraid of the consequences and if there werent consequences u really wouldnt believe in him.
Unlike most people the man who put together this video was actually thinking, he got the facts and laid them down, and truely found out that the christian religion and other religions are a bunch of crap. LOL, but what ever if you haven't seen it you wouldn't know.
Brooke Foss Westcott, an English scholar, said: "raking all the evidence together, it is not too much to say that there is no historic incident better or more variously supported than the resurrection of Christ. Nothing but the antecedent assumption that it must be false could have suggested the idea of deficiency in the proof of it."
Professor Thomas Arnold, chair of modern history at Oxford, is acquainted with the value of evidence in determining historical facts. He said: "I have been used for many years to study the histories of other times, and to examine and weigh the evidence of those who have written about them, and I know of no one fact in the history of mankind which is proved by better and fuller evidence of every sort, to the understanding of a fair inquirer, than that Christ died and rose again from the dead."
No i can not prove that he did not exist, can YOU PROVE HE DIDN'T EXIST? No. YOU CAN'T PROVE A NEGATIVE, OR DISPROVE ONE. THIS IS MY OPINION, IT IS RIDICULES THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BELIEVE A MAN ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BUT WAIT...Do you believe in zombies?
Can you prove that He DIDN'T exists?... or that he DIDN'T rise from the dead? Unless you have a witness that was there and saw the whole thing , science can't prove any of that.
Jesus Christ was nothing. Is nothing. I'm sure there was a man named Jesus, who died, (probably many) none of which rose from the dead and ascended to the heavens. God, hmm what to say about that one that hasn't already been said...A three letter symbol for brain wash.
Have you ever even watched this movie? Or did you judge it by this add? This movie is actually really interesting. Its has something the bible dosent even have, SCIENTIFIC REASONING and FACTS.
this video proves nothing... Christ is the only founder of a major world religion: 1)to claim he was Diety 2) say "what you do with me determines how you spen eternity 3) whom miracles are recorded within a generation 4) say "my death is going to secure your salvation 5) who's followers claimed he was raised from the dead and 6) Christianity is the only religion where suffering is center of the gospel
If I were god, instead of making cock roaches and flies in my spare time, I would write my own bible by simply saying, "let there be a bible, and there was a bible."
This is absurd, Other than Jesus Christ, what other man has ever been born of a virgin, performed miracles, died on the cross, rose from the Dead three days later and then ascended into heaven?
This video protrays christians has violent haters, but that is a false image.
Your argument falls on deaf ears if you don't believe the initial assumption that bilblical stories are true. The funny part is your very assertion is addressed in the preview.
I'm afraid as prepared as I am to rag on xtian mythology, this trailer seems too far to the anti-believing forces. It's appealling more to emotion than to fact, though like Michael Moore it uses facts to make that appeal. Nice idea, but the trailer doesn't inspire me to view it.
Even though this film doesn't address in more complete terms the arguments it presents at least it FINALLY gets the ball rolling on this LONG overdue subject! I've got a copy of this video and haven't gotten tired of it yet, having seen it at least 50 times! Thanks for posting this trailer here! :)
Worship your mother, Earth, the ancients did and they survived 10,000 years.
skepticalinquier 7 months ago
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I love a good debate but this chick has so many negitive comments, I can't see some of her more ingorant comments. Besides, bowing to her as in her name states... Isn't that considered blasphemous? Lol, no intellgent debate goes by without one silly mudslinger.
ksniveegirl 10 months ago
@You13owMe13itch oh, relax, and go read your Bible. I'm sure it's responsible for your calm, collected and polite thoughts. (Or take some Thorazine). Leave the thinking to the big girls...
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I am a 27 yr. old atheist psychologist, and I think the religious folk need a reminder:
The obligation for 'proof' - in UFOs, gods, the Loch Ness monster, etc. - is the sole responsibility of the person with the evidence. You don't ask someone to disprove the fact that Thor causes thunder? If you insist on believing in the supernatural, any of them will do: In the case of gods, goddesses and faery tales, there are a plethora to choose from: Greek mythology, Hans Christian Anderson,Tolkien...
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You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
@Medwynsmum Wow, prove Psychology is real. Seriously, Prove love is real. You cannot, now I know you are going to go into some typical atheist jargon about documented proof, but in reality Psychology is the theory of how the human mind works. So prove there is a mind. Prove everything. God bless.
MasterTweak 10 months ago
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I feel like there are so many atheists out there who chose to deny God because their life sucked so bad. I feel sorry for them. They are like the little emos in my High School who couldn't deal with their problems. We all got fuckin problems. Why don't you guys man the fuck up and blame yourself for your own problems. Feel like im dealing with a bunch of pussys all the time and yet I'm the weak one for believing.
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch like einstine. what an emo highschool kid! what a weak minded fuck right? please dont feel sorry for einstine and his lack of a belief in a god! i think he did alright for himself!
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@SuperAthiest1 I don't feel sorry for "einstine." I feel sorry for you who cant even spell Einstein. Haha sad...
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch i think its sad that after every thing we talked about, all youve got for me is a misspelled word. winning a debate feels good. spelling isnt my strong point. i study physics, not spelling. ill admit to my flaws, and atleast they arent with my ability to rationaly juge fact from fantasy. oh, and i looked up job. lol. "God created dragons so wonderfully that they are invulnerable to any attack
by conventional weapons, and are invincible in combat." Job 41:7-10 COME ON MAN!
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@SuperAthiest1 Your entire debate consisted of assumptions, false accusations, completely false statements, restating the same shit and misspelled words. You have not successfully beaten me in any topic discussed. Your fuckin pathetic i dont even know why i bother to continue this conversation. If you don't believe me than I hope you will after my next statement. That was a completely false quote of the bible in which you wrote above. I'm guessing you got that online. Ur fuckin pathetic.
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch how very "christlike" of you. if you want people to believe in your mind rot. you might wanna try following it. sorry i made you so mad. enjoy your duck. lol.
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch yeah.....the bible says nothing about the existance of dragons. hhahaha......thanks too, i needed a laguh
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch und thinks fer lettun me no thut misspalld wurds bug you!
SuperAthiest1 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch My husband, an (atheist) professor of Theology, and I, have translated the Bible from the original Hebrew, Aramaic, & Koine Greek. There are six or seven allegorical references to dragons in the original texts, but there are actually two which survive translation. You're probably only looking at 1 or 2 versions of said book; did you know that there are dozens?
You cannot 'win' a debate when one never occurred. Obviously, you need attention: for 200/hr., I'd be happy to help
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@Medwynsmum Okay lady seriously you need to stop talking to me. What are you talking about that i cannot win a debate that never occurred? First off...how the fuck do you know? For your information I had a debate with super athiest on countless other threads that lasted for like 3 days. Thats the debate i was talking about you dumb bitch. And i could really care less how many languages you speak. Your not impressing me or nebody else. Quit opening your mouth unless u have somethign relevant.
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch
Wow, so much butthurt here on the internet. Atheism offers a way of life without the fear of god or divine intervention. You jelly?
liberamentis 7 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch for someone fixated on spelling errors maybe you should take a good look at your user name. last time i checked numbers are not letters. also, it wouldn't hurt to brush up on some basic grammar.
roadkillcondom 10 months ago
@roadkillcondom Lmao your powers of observation serve you well. "Numbers are not letters." I can't believe I never noticed that! You have enlightened me to change my ways and create a more suitable user name that will be more aesthetically pleasing to you. You're right though. Usually I am not fixated on spelling and grammar because my own is actually not that good either, but his was so pathetic I had to say something.
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
@You13ow2Me13itch i imagine i would have done the exact same thing if i were a sore loser.
roadkillcondom 10 months ago
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lol daaaaaaaaaaamn buuuuurn, the kid just keeps comin up with slam after slam. Im serious man im tryin to look out for you....stop....talking.
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
Zeus could ass rape god with his lightening bolts.
U mad christians?
smoothcriminal7033 11 months ago
Just another antichrist here,there will be many who claim to hate the father with lies but in the end after many years they all turn to god,its funny how when your a child you will belive any thing then when you start having health problems they all turn praise and follw god.praise the father always and forever and I pray the father always most of you wake up to see your wrongs.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006
SATAN IS GOD!
(well at least he isn't as much of a cunt as that psychopathic Yahweh character).
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist Yea, well, we will see who the cry babby cunt is when you die and pass away to hell buring for ever and ever and ever and ever.Satan will be right there with you, have a good burn.
mystic81006 10 months ago
@mystic8100
Ah the good old: unless you follow this lunatic Yahweh monster you will burn in hell.
I will tell you the truth you fear: If Yahdick was as "loving" and kind as you pretended, why would he send those whom don't worship him to burn for eternity? Can't you see that that is the very definition of a psychopath, megalomaniac,masochistic devil?
OrthodoxDarwinist 10 months ago
@OrthodoxDarwinist Well obviously you know nothing of the religion in which you hate. God doesn't send anyone to hell, they earn it themselves. And yet in many religions they don't believe that you "burn" for eternity. Many believe that hell is just the absence of the light. Atleast be a little educated on the topic in which you choose to slander dumbass.
You13ow2Me13itch 10 months ago
If god exists why so much suffer on this planet? orphans, diseases, hunger and nature´s fury.
CaptCamping 1 year ago
@CaptCamping free will
BlipBaat 1 year ago
Very Christian of you.
GenevaSuspension 1 year ago
im the 2nd coming of christ?
is jesus ever coming back?
scroatem 2 years ago
@scroatem
You know why there won't be a 2nd coming of Christ?
Because there wasn't a 1st coming of Christ.
jfeltes2 1 year ago
Where are the riots in the streets over this? The outrage? Where are the death threats? The bombings and setting fire to flags??
Oh that's right, they're going after Jesus Christ - not Allah or some such.
The views beinf put forth by this movie are not original or new or even remotely controversial - it's all old news.
So I ask the question: when does the movie about Allah not being real come out?
Hmmm?
What's that? I can't hear you.
Speak up.
Cmdr213 2 years ago
I recommend you perform a YouTube search for videos about Islam, there are people speaking out against the claim that there's such a thing as Islamophobia. The fact that the term even exists belies your claim that we only ever claim anything about Christianity and no other religion.
FSAthe1st 2 years ago
I love Christians that think atheists arent upset about Islam. It shows you haven't spent much time doing research on the atheist point of view. It also shows your lack of understanding of Islam which includes the old testament as holy scripture. Trust me im just as sickened by islam as I am by christianity.
JovialEel 2 years ago 4
@Cmdr213
This movie is about one mans journey. Did you watch the movie?
jfeltes2 1 year ago
How can you disprove someone that does not exist? God must exist. You must become a God to know there is no God anywhere in the world. A God has infinite knowledge. Do you have infinite knowledge?
davarim78 2 years ago
There's just one problem with your argument. You're making claims about the existence of a God or Gods without providing any evidence that supports your claims, then you assert indirectly that God (which one by the way?) cannot be detected, THEN you commit the logical fallacy that, because we don't have God-like powers, it's impossible for us to say that God doesn't exist, ERGO the God of the Bible SPECIFICALLY, DOES EXIST (committing a non-sequitur in the process). And you can't see the error?
FSAthe1st 2 years ago 3
you must have taken a college course in critical thinking. great. i have to. you must have infinite knowledge to know there is no spirit being with infinite knowedge. answer that without a smokescreen. all those big words will not help you when you stand for before GOD in judgement. the HOLY BIBLE states that only a fool believes there is no GOD. the only fallacy that i have committed is communicating with a fool. your pride is overuling your heart and soul. i cannot change you.
davarim78 2 years ago
Threatening someone with hell is not impressive. I'm not as weak minded as you are, that's why it doesn't work. The Bible can state anything it wants, but without evidence to back it up I will never take it seriously. The fact that you are so credulous as to accept it's BS without question says more about your lack of critical thinking than it does about my supposedly being a fool. You know, calling someone a fool because he's not stupid enough to accept faith based claims when YOU blindly...
FSAthe1st 2 years ago 18
follow a religion based not on evidence, but based on faith based claims, personal credulity, and wishful thinking... That's projecting your own foolishness onto others.
As to your point... I can make evidence-based claims. I don't have to be infinitely powerful to be able to determine the results of an infinitely powerful being's influence on the universe. And I don't claim that an infinitely powerful being doesn't exist, just the specific claims of specific religions.
Fuck your threats.
FSAthe1st 2 years ago 4
The Bible is full of caveats such as these (these are paraphrased btw): Better to have never believed than to believe and turn away and reject God. The one unforgivable sin is to reject God.
These caveats are in place to make not believing a huge risk for religious people, a risk they aren't willing to take.
GenevaSuspension 1 year ago
@GenevaSuspension think your are right
BlipBaat 1 year ago
whoa easy man.. just take a breath and calm down.. no need to keep pwning these christians.. its not that they are wrong.. its that they live in a world fixed in pure imagination.. someday they will realize how precious this life is and until then.. screw them :) cheers
mmmodafoca 1 year ago
How can God break the laws of science and physics? Who created science and physics? Who created law? God created everything.
davarim78 2 years ago
God Created the "laws", eh? OK...
1) Evidence for such a ludicrous claim? Oh, that's right. There isn't any.
2) "Laws" in Scientific lingo are statements that the universe MUST (or else) operate a given way. They are OBSERVATIONS that the universe DOES operate this way and we can PREDICT what will happen by using them. They're no more prescriptive laws to be used in a court than our man-made laws of "do not kill" are descriptive laws that people don't commit murder (they obviously do at times).
FSAthe1st 2 years ago
@davarim78
Say what?
Have you ever heard the term Ass Backward. Well that's what your statement is.
Science and Physics don't need some abstract concept to create it. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's god. you Caveman The universe is with or without a god or us. Stop thinking we are the epitome of creation and open your eyes, realize that our existence is but a fraction of a fraction of time in this universe.
Do our lives even serve a purpose? Question still Valid.
jfeltes2 1 year ago
Hi everybody.
hubbinzki 2 years ago
Modern science shows that no "gods" or "Toothfairies" can exist, beause they would break the laws of physics. Religions, gods and so on were first invented in the stone age, and for instance the judeo-christian one, was based on bronze age myths. Hmmm, I wonder what's more likely..that ancient flat-earthers were right and that there is some invisible guy/guys in the sky...or that modern science is right and the gods are just in believers' fantasies? Tough question..really hard to figure out, eh?
winterstellar 2 years ago
IF there is a God, I truly believe man fucked up whatever great love he had to show. I would also have to believe that every religious person would have to be forgiving for following the wrong religion. If a man is Muslim and he loves his God, family and fellow man. That man should be rewarded just the same as the Christian man who does the same. Once again, man has distorted religion. This is my opinion.
BeerGoggles1981 3 years ago
forgiven**
BeerGoggles1981 3 years ago
BTW folks, you cannot prove no God, or God. Both beliefs are based on faith. Science still has not proven there is no God. Either way, both Atheists and religious people are just as equally right or wrong. Don't bother arguing with me over it. Finally, WE ALL WILL FIND OUT WHEN WE DIE!!
BeerGoggles1981 3 years ago
Correct on the inability to prove the existence or non existence of supernatural deities, but do you think about why this is? Perhaps it has something to do with the rather convenient (for the Theist) declaration that God (which one by the way?) is outside of space and time, and therefore, past our ability to detect? Well, we can say the same thing about any man-made belief...
FSAthe1st 2 years ago
I can sit here and invent Yithrilium, a God who is all powerful and exists only in the mind of the believer, cannot be detected etc. Can we test this? No. Can we say this God doesn't exist? No because we cannot detect it's existence or non existence. How convenient.
FSAthe1st 2 years ago
I'm scandinavian and most people don't believe in gods and so on over here, but it's nice to see that also many americans are beginning to go atheist now. Good luck in getting rid of "God" and "Jesus", keep up the good work! :)
winterstellar 3 years ago 2
Most Scandinavians are Atheist?? I did not know this.
BeerGoggles1981 3 years ago
BeerGoggles. Yes, according to surveys some 85 percent of the swedes don't believe in god, and thenumbers are similar for Norway and Denmark too. A bit more believers in those two, but not much. :)
winterstellar 3 years ago
Another interesting fact: The more religious a country is, the more violent and warlike it is. We could learn a lot from you guys.
davidls11 2 years ago
The title reminds me of the Austin Powers track "Daddy wasn't there." Coincidence? I think not. Freud said something about the correlation.
cjatasu 3 years ago
God is love.
alaskagurl1990 3 years ago
"You don't know how good it feels to do something good for the sake of helping someone and not just because it will please a GOD."
gutavo12 3 years ago
Your past statement is a common misunderstanding about Christians. We do not do good works to please a God. Rather, we do good works for the sake of helping people. Good works does not win a Christian any brownie points with God. This point goes along with the misunderstanding that the gateway to heaven is by doing good works here on Earth. Ex. The better person we are, the better chance of going to heaven. A basic understanding of Christianity would prove that thinking wrong.
jjohns33 3 years ago
if one never attempts to have a relationship with a God, then how can one know that there is no God?
ex. if one states that there are no cookies in the cookie jar yet he/she never checks, then the possibility of a cookie being in the jar is all the more possible.
jjohns33 4 years ago
You are such a dumb brainwashed christian. Obviously, most people that are now "coming out" as atheist have been brainwashed their whole lives as part of some kind of religion. They believed everything you believe and they prayed as much as you probably pray,and finally they realized that through reason and logic the most probable thing is that there is no tooth fairy, Santa Claus, God, or any other magical Disney character above us, inside us, beside us, or wherever.
gutavo12 3 years ago
Dude... this documentary is made by a former Christian, and I don't mean just "my family is Christian and I called myself Christian" type of guy. I'm talking about the kind who was sent to a private Christian school etc. Then was studying theology, I believe he said, and the more he studied the more he realized the bible is full of BS.
Just watch the documentary instead of arguing in the comment section of a movie I'm pretty sure you haven't seen yet.
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
Dude...Lee Strobel was an athesis who didn't believe in a God cause he thought it was all BS. Then he studied the bible and its orgin and became a Christian with several top selling books on the subject. check out "Case for Christ" and see for yourself.
jjohns33 3 years ago
I own The Case For The Creator, I've read it. I always look at both sides, I didn't just pick a side and choose to defend it. All HARD scientific evidence points to the bible being false. If you believe in a Creator that is one thing, if you believe Christianity you're a fool.
But more importantly, Strobel has nothing to do with anything given we aren't fighting in the comment section for a video for one of Strobel's books. Do your own research and watch the documentary.
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
i was pointing out that people have switched from being an athesis to christian and christian to athesis. in fact if you do a little research on that topic, the stats are heavy on athesis to christian. but it is funny that we tend to say science points towards the bible being false when in fact the bible is the most trusted historical document. it is shocking how accurate (in a historical light) the bible is. and i dont believe anyone claims that the bible is scientifically accurate.
jjohns33 3 years ago
Yes, the history that they did fit into the bible is accurate. Its still no more accurate than the fictional books and movies written about say WW2, historically accurate? Yes it is. True story? no not at all. And what does science have to do with it being historically accurate anyway? They're completely unrelated. Also, many Christians do claim the bible is scientifically accurate, not all probably not even most but a lot do.
Question, what do you know about Horus?
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
As a christian myself, I do not believe the bible to be scientifically accurate. Take the ten plagues for example. As far as I know, science has claimed that these ten plagues (happening all in a short time-frame) is impossible. Thus supporting the belief that these plagues (if real), were reaults of a miracle. Which is what christians believe. If science were to prove the possibility of this miracle to have accured, then the bible would be scientifically accurate after all...wouldn't it?
jjohns33 3 years ago
I assume you are refering to Heru (offten mistaken for the Greek Horus) the Egyptian god. Yeah, he was the god of the sun and sky if i remember. He may have also been the god of war as well. I do know Ramesses II (believed to be the pharaoh of the Exodus) saw Heru as the most powerful god and most important untill his death. His tomb has no acknowledgement of the god Heru.
I could be mistaken on some facts. Its been a while.
jjohns33 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure he goes by Horus as well as Heru...
My point of that is Jesus was definitely not the first God to die on a cross, Horus did the same thing. There are many many other things in common with Jesus and Horus that I haven't found information on myself so those will be left out. You think the God could've been a little more original when sending a Messiah though don't you? Seems like God did the whole Jesus thing pretty half-assed and of course left no evidence behind.
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
Horus (Heru) was never crucified. There's a story in which he is killed by Set and is cast in pieces into the water, then later fished out by a crocodile at Isis' request. This story is the only one in which he dies at all. I have just spent the last three hours in my university library and could not find one encyclopedia nor book that claimed Horus was crucified.
jjohns33 3 years ago
Huh, interesting. Given how many claims there are he was crucified. Anyway, since you searched in legitimate books, I'm assuming, and I haven't, I apologize for making a false claim.
Tomorrow I'll come back with you with the name of another crucified God, I'm too tired tonight and can't find the name. All I have is the image of a carving well before Jesus but I don't recall the name and it is really hard to search for ancient crucified gods without getting Jesus or Horus.
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
But one thing I can leave you with is Jesus is definitely not the first God to go to hell then to heaven. Other Gods and Myths like this include. Osirus, Adonis, Tammuz, Zalmoxis, Phoenix, Baldr and Odin. So that's definitely not even close to original.
I will try my damned hardest to find this crucified God before Jesus though. There is a book of sixteen crucified saviors but its incredibly sketchy. And I can't find much information online for the majority of them.
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
Granted, you can say that the evidence isn't proving the bible wrong and those parts of the bible are just "stories" not meant to be taken literally. Genesis is false, that clearly is not how the world was created. So now more and more Christians view Genesis as a "story" instead of literal.
But back to Strobel, just because an atheist becomes a Christian through how he viewed science doesn't make him right. I'll even say the same goes for a Christian turning Atheist.
chessplayersmate 3 years ago
This is like a bad episode of mad T.V.
blaze941201 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You people should stop attacking God, you're just proving that their is one by obsessing over Him and His followers. No one says Allah isn't real, no one says Buddha isn't real... you all go after the real deal, God... the one true God.
Behover 4 years ago
That is the most idiotic thing I've seen posted
snusd0san 4 years ago 2
there is no god! or gods!
fantheman6969 4 years ago 3
lol i attack all reglions! but i attack 'god" more because i used to be a Christian
fantheman6969 4 years ago 2
God? Who is this God character? Never heard of him.
citizenwill1 4 years ago 7
Your real deal includes the Judiaic and Islamic God, you worship the same ficticious deity. So get over it
Bobert680 3 years ago 2
Your real deal includes the Judiaic and Islamic God, you worship the same ficticious deity. So get over it
Bobert680 3 years ago 2
Brian Flemming is an idiot.
AnacondaS1996 4 years ago
Brian Flemming is a good man!
fantheman6969 4 years ago
Must say though that its very sad to see people who calls themselves christian and speak of executing other people. Bible tells clearly, thou shall not comit murder.
varfordogjesus 4 years ago
Its strange that Christianity always get so much attention. Especially Jesus. This video just makes me more confident in my belief in Christ. Cos it proves there is something speciall with my God and my faith.
varfordogjesus 4 years ago
just stating..... are you guys so low that all you do is sit at your computer and dis people who believe in god...... wellll we know that you aren't going to heaven.. so why not believe in god for the just in case matter.......
freeba2 4 years ago
"so why not believe in god for the just in case matter....... "
why don't you read 'pascal's wager' and understand why that statement is baseless.
of all the past god's, how can you be sure you belive in the right one? their book's say the same retorical statements, that their god is the only god. perhaps you should believe in zeus, thor, allah, or any of the other 100's of god's.
agentorange20 4 years ago
I've read pascal's wager. It states that there is more positive in believing in God than there would be not. Christianity is the most popular religion with the most evidence of existence. God offers eternal life, or hell. As nothing offers purgatory and reincarnation.
freeba2 3 years ago
''Christianity is the most popular religion with the most evidence of existence.''
And what evidence is that?
simonandtheghost 3 years ago 3
Pascals wager is wrong bc if ur god is all-knowing then dont u think he would know that ur just believing in him bc ur afraid of the consequences and if there werent consequences u really wouldnt believe in him.
indian8217 3 years ago 2
Watch "ZEITGEIST". It's time to wake up.
HolyHell999 4 years ago
YES!!! i own this documentary!! RRAHHHHHahahahaha!!
marklethanarkle 4 years ago
Unlike most people the man who put together this video was actually thinking, he got the facts and laid them down, and truely found out that the christian religion and other religions are a bunch of crap. LOL, but what ever if you haven't seen it you wouldn't know.
Cassieandsandy 4 years ago
A God who wasnt there?? More like a should-be servant who didnt care!
srt4shizzle 4 years ago
Brooke Foss Westcott, an English scholar, said: "raking all the evidence together, it is not too much to say that there is no historic incident better or more variously supported than the resurrection of Christ. Nothing but the antecedent assumption that it must be false could have suggested the idea of deficiency in the proof of it."
jjohns33 4 years ago
Professor Thomas Arnold, chair of modern history at Oxford, is acquainted with the value of evidence in determining historical facts. He said: "I have been used for many years to study the histories of other times, and to examine and weigh the evidence of those who have written about them, and I know of no one fact in the history of mankind which is proved by better and fuller evidence of every sort, to the understanding of a fair inquirer, than that Christ died and rose again from the dead."
jjohns33 4 years ago
No i can not prove that he did not exist, can YOU PROVE HE DIDN'T EXIST? No. YOU CAN'T PROVE A NEGATIVE, OR DISPROVE ONE. THIS IS MY OPINION, IT IS RIDICULES THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BELIEVE A MAN ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BUT WAIT...Do you believe in zombies?
Cassieandsandy 4 years ago
Can you prove that He DIDN'T exists?... or that he DIDN'T rise from the dead? Unless you have a witness that was there and saw the whole thing , science can't prove any of that.
dolemite5000 4 years ago
Jesus Christ was nothing. Is nothing. I'm sure there was a man named Jesus, who died, (probably many) none of which rose from the dead and ascended to the heavens. God, hmm what to say about that one that hasn't already been said...A three letter symbol for brain wash.
Cassieandsandy 4 years ago
know what christianity is gonna endure for ever
jesuslovesyou102 4 years ago
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"
S0n0fMan 4 years ago
oh white jesus... wonder if he could jump?
maxxb77 4 years ago
Have you ever even watched this movie? Or did you judge it by this add? This movie is actually really interesting. Its has something the bible dosent even have, SCIENTIFIC REASONING and FACTS.
Cassieandsandy 4 years ago
GOD HELP G.W.BUSH PLEASE PLEASE
shaqel182 4 years ago
Shows what religion is all about underneath
Cassieandsandy 5 years ago
this video proves nothing... Christ is the only founder of a major world religion: 1)to claim he was Diety 2) say "what you do with me determines how you spen eternity 3) whom miracles are recorded within a generation 4) say "my death is going to secure your salvation 5) who's followers claimed he was raised from the dead and 6) Christianity is the only religion where suffering is center of the gospel
Pellucidone 5 years ago
ridiculous...no arguments and no rationality whatsoever...pure propaganda
masudrules 5 years ago
I love this move it gets four stars
****
:)
Cassieandsandy 5 years ago
If I were god, instead of making cock roaches and flies in my spare time, I would write my own bible by simply saying, "let there be a bible, and there was a bible."
babri62 5 years ago
This is absurd, Other than Jesus Christ, what other man has ever been born of a virgin, performed miracles, died on the cross, rose from the Dead three days later and then ascended into heaven?
This video protrays christians has violent haters, but that is a false image.
danderson1389 5 years ago
Your argument falls on deaf ears if you don't believe the initial assumption that bilblical stories are true. The funny part is your very assertion is addressed in the preview.
I'm afraid as prepared as I am to rag on xtian mythology, this trailer seems too far to the anti-believing forces. It's appealling more to emotion than to fact, though like Michael Moore it uses facts to make that appeal. Nice idea, but the trailer doesn't inspire me to view it.
Vicarz 5 years ago
I can't remember who said: "Never do men commit evil so thoroughly as when they do it from religious conviction."
BeatBuddy 5 years ago
Spot on.
Religion suspends compassion, morals and common sense. God's soliders, the scariest of them all.
keano101 5 years ago
Even better is: "There are evil men who do evil and there are good men who do good, but for good men to do evil it takes Religion".
hudstar 5 years ago
corny trailer
aki44 5 years ago
That's all you can say? Do you have time to make stupid comments about every movie trailer?
dirtgirl5998 5 years ago
Even though this film doesn't address in more complete terms the arguments it presents at least it FINALLY gets the ball rolling on this LONG overdue subject! I've got a copy of this video and haven't gotten tired of it yet, having seen it at least 50 times! Thanks for posting this trailer here! :)
Whalemale 5 years ago