This is not the ABBA Father seeketh worship they are not worshipping the Almighty God which its SPIRIT they are worshiping Satan... so sad ths people~!
Believe me, watch the video MINISTERS OF SATAN so you don't get the REAL baptism of fire that John the baptist was actully talking about--because it's really,really hot down here!!!
this guy is a false prophet for sure..receive power? blue fire? vortex of wind? they will say this is "signs and wonders", I don't see any of this in the bible. these people looked like demons were taking over them, and its very frenetic evil energy in that "church". We need to pray for these lost souls, that they will find the truth of the gospel before it is too late. This is satan at work in these last days
The time is near when the antichrist will appear for the great apostasy that ushers in the lawless one's arrival is upon the church. After the man of sin is revealed and has his 15 minutes, the Great King will return and destroy all those who loved not the truth but embraced the strong delusion. We live in very interesting times.
The anti christ is the pope.Reason 1. Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan.2. John said the anti christ would rule from ROME with a false christian church called the harlot. 3.Daniel also said the anti christ would come out of THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE.4. Daniel said the anti christ would change the sabbath day kill the saints and call himself jesus's equal,the pope addmited the vatican did these things.5 JESUITS rule the freemason satanists
I used to go to a church that was very similar to this, it was a lot of hype and sensationalism. I find absolutely nothing in the bible that supports a service like this, let alone any behavior from a child of God. It's a lot of confusion that they try to pass off as the supernatural.
PURE UNDILUTED PAGANISM!!! I was sucked up into this garbage and it was the faithful servants of the Most High, who LOVE God and His WORD who revealed to me this was evil...through the scriptures!!!! I could have rebelled and called them sad, un-spiritual... but I cried out to the Living God...and HE confirmed what they were showing me was the Truth..this is satanic. SATANIC.
@mark2112kram Give it a whirl, a good "rocking" of theology will inevitabely expose any false doctrine and teaching I've allowed into my life. So I welcome your test. Everyone needs a good shaking every now and again.
Do you see how many young people there are in this video? Everyone else knows RJ is false prophet so now he has to go after the next generation. My heart breaks for these people. Why he is still allowed to perpetrate this heresy is beyond me.
oh my fucking god, the whole thing is bullshit. YOUR FAITH IS BULLSHIT, HIS FAITH IS EQUALLY AS BULLSHIT JUST LIKE ALL OF U "BELIEVERS". EVERYTHING HE IS DOING IS SCRIPTURAL IN THIS VIDEO (mark 16 ring a fucking bell). of course this guy is crazy but calling him a "false" prophet doesnt mean anything because the whole religion is false. if u think a guy got up 3 days after being tortured to death then u r crazy...ESPECIALLY when u think this because u read it in an old book...smh
@K Why are u here checking this stuff out then?Are u trawling the santa claus vids?The toothfairy vids?I think u're "hoping" it's all untrue so u can continue living whatever way u like &"IF" there happens to be a God &"IF" Jesus Christ IS Real all along..well...all u have to do is say "but sir,I swear,I didn't know this was all real".!God is not mocked.I pray u remember what Jesus Christ said in John11:25.IAM the resurrection &the LIFE.Whosoever BELIEVES in ME, though he die, yet shall he LIVE.
1) im here because its funny/really sad that millions of ppl believe this and 2) after about the age of ten most ppl dont believe in santa. if there was a santa religion, then maybe i would troll their vids. i would like to ask u tho, what evidence do u have for ur faith?
That was one of the saddest things I have ever seen. Please Lord Jesus, open these people's eyes to the false gospel they are following. Let them repent and follow you. Amen.
p.s. For all non-believers out there, Rick Joyner and this nonsense has NOTHING to do with true biblical christianity.
Yo, this is soooooooooooo NOT of GOD! THE HOLY SPIRIT if we really want to know if HE IS PRESENT, let us look at the FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT: "love, joy, peace, longsuffering , gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance against such there is no law." TEST EVERY SPIRIT TO SEE IF THEY ARE OF GOD. This is divination! Where is the HEALING, DELIVERANCE, CASTING OUT OF DEVILS, BREAKTHROUGH? This appears to be occultic in nature. I PRAY NOT. But, LORD JESUS CHRIST HAVE MERCY on THE CHURCH
Zionism NOT the works of God but those of the Antichrist, synagogue of satan. Nor are the "Jews" in Zionism from the seed of David or Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are a forgery of Khazarian decent. They are a fake - an imitation chosen by Lucifer. They are NOT the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. Nor has the true Israel been established at the right time. Israel IS COUNTERFEIT!
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues".
I kind of prefer the altered states demonstrated on the video to the ones demonstrated by many of the posters here. Dont kid yourself. A spirit of fear, judgment, and self-righteous arrogance is every bit as much of an altered state.
I don't agree with a lot of stuff at MorningStar, but I'm not really sure what the aim of this video is. It seems to be to mock people who are brothers / sisters in Christ. Or if you really believe they're being manipulated, then you're simply mocking people who have psychological issues.
Either way, this has been made with a bad heart. The sad thing is, it must have taken you a fair few hours to do. How about praying for these people instead? Pharisee.
I don't agree with a lot of stuff at MorningStar, but I'm not really sure what the aim of this video is. It seems to be to mock people who are brothers / sisters in Christ. Or if you really believe they're being manipulated, then you're simply mocking people who have psychological issues.
Either way, this has been made with a bad heart. The sad thing is, it must have taken you a fair few hours to do. How about praying for these people instead? Pharisee.
Why they don't mention the name of the true Lord, Jesus,are they ashamed,I don't like worships or churches or congregations where I don't hear the name of my Lord,jesus.because without that name we are nobody.
yep this is true! dont know the manipulation is it the one who wrote stuff that is wrong, or the genuine work of the Holy Spirit going here! o well im called to love and bless! so blessings!
Ireneaus, 200AD (disciple of Polycarp, disciple of St. John the Apostle)
It appears probable enough that this man possesses a demon as his familiar spirit, by means of whom he seems able to prophesy, and also enables as many as he counts worthy to be partakers of his grace themselves to prophesy. He devotes himself especially to women, and those such as are well-bred, and elegantly attired, and of great wealth, whom he frequently seeks to draw after him,
by addressing them in such seductive words as these, “I am eager to make you a partaker of my grace, since the Father of all continually beholds your angel before his face. Now the place of your angel is among us: it behoves us to become one. First, receive grace from me and by me. Adorn yourself as a bride who is expecting her bridegroom, that you may be what I am, and I what you are. Establish the germ of light in your nuptial chamber.
Receive from me a spouse, and become receptive of him, while you are received by him. Behold, grace has descended upon you; open your mouth and prophesy.”
On the woman replying, “I have never at any time prophesied, nor do I know how to prophesy;” then engaging, for the second time, in certain invocations, so as to astound his deluded victim, he says to her,
“Open your mouth, speak whatsoever occurs to you, and you shall prophesy.”
She then, vainly puffed up and elated by these words, and greatly excited in soul by the expectation that it is herself who is to prophesy, her heart beating violently [from emotion], reaches the requisite pitch of audacity, and idly as well as impudently utters some nonsense as it happens to occur to her, such as might be expected from one heated by an empty spirit.
(Referring to this, one superior to me has observed, that the soul is both audacious and impudent when heated with empty air.) Henceforth she reckons herself a prophetess, and expresses her thanks to Marcus for having imparted to her of his own grace. She then makes the effort to reward him, not only by the gift of her possessions, but also by yielding up to him her person, desiring in every way to be united to him, that she may become altogether one with him.
Yes and amen. Does not scripture plainly teach 'altered states? Prayer, fasting, medication, worship! Putting off the old man of sin and putting on the new man of the Spirit!! Wake up and get in the river of Christ' spirit! 2 Months ago a top Wiccan High Priest here in L.A. gave her life to Christ because the anointing was so strong in the revival worship service!! Her life was radically changed. Sorry to hear you have "a form of Godliness" but reject the power.
ummm interesting - false prophets won't mention Jesus was the son of God come in the flesh, (that;s how you test them according the scripture)...I heard them mention, "releasing something", "God" and "Lord" but no Jesus...nuff said.
How about close encounters of the lost mind!!! Altered states is right! I've seen this stuff up close-People cannot stop themselves when this manifestation is on them-totally wacked out-At altar calls they often tell people to receive it and not to pray, just let the 'spirit' take over!!! This is NOT the holy spirit! Yes God does bring Joy in our lives but if you behaved like this at work,in a bank or a grocery store folks would be calling you an ambulance!! Total Delusion! Stear clear people!!
Just like the hebrews at Horeb whit the calf. They will even go to do strange practices in the true name of God, but that God didint approve. They show strange ways, which was never teach by neither apostles or faithfull.
Prating in the name of the Lord whit rock , Insanity. They just like to touch ech other like vipers, going to hide their unholy and perverted hearts and desire under The Holy Spirit name. They push each other for touching and being touch, they dance for touching and being touch, and their demonic possession contorse them just like epilectic and delisional Gods. This is not the way of God. Dont lose your time whit those vain practices; but seek to help, seek to heal, by words and deeds. S g fruit
im from argentina. o cambias tu forma de pensar o te perderás el ultimo avivamiento de papa Dios sobre la tierra. Dios no se puede pensar, sus formas de actuar no se pueden razonar, porque Dios es un dios demasiado grande como para caber en una mente humana.. si no lo entiendes como yo que tampoco entiendo mucho esto, es porque vas por buen camino. Solo debes abrir tu corazón y tu espíritu y dejar que el espíritu santo te ministre.
it depends on what kind you are talking about. patience, gentleness, peace, rest and soundness of mind are what God would have as "altered states", not this frenzied screaming which literally majes men ripe for the psych ward (take it from me who ended up in one)
I will never understand why some christians are so engaged in trying to make other christians look bad and false, instead of trying to unite in the only important thing; Jesus Christ. These people love Jesus. -you would know if you tried to find out with a sincere heart.
@durernagain The reason we are exposing the false is because we are told to. These people that claim to love Jesus don't believe in his word. We are living in the most troubled times in the history of mankind! Jesus made it clear that deception would be rampant and even the very elect would be deceived if possible. God gave us his word, his truth and sadly it is being perverted and twisted for what ever false doctrine comes along. The word of God.. is God! With out it no one will be saved!
They don't know how to submit to God..I feel sorry for them. They are trying to reach him his POWER without his CROSS. It's impossible. It's a false authority. It's a false annointing. How many times does the book of acts say that "FEAR FELL ON EVERYONE OF THEM"??? The FEAR of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
* 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned .
I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding 1 Cor 14:15 Joyners church is Kudalini he is masterful at taking one scripture and shredding it to fit his cult. One has to ignore a multitude of scriptures against this stuff, but feelings are so good! It's easier than faith!
These older men should be ashamed of themselves. False teachers. False prophets. They are supposed to be teaching the younger men sound doctrine. They are making fools of themselves & using the name of the Lord in vain.
..they must turn....Teacher in Jesus is a Love thing in Bible Words.That thing here is evil and false.Cant belive that so many people go wrong...but the way to lord is a little path.
We are to be imitators of Christ! Jesus was the wisest man on earth, he gave us an example to live by. If one truly loves God he will love truth and truth cometh by hearing the word of God. These heretical teachers rarely teach from the word and if they do, they twist it to justify their corruption. If we're not firmly grounded in the word we won't make it in these last days! Jesus warned us... and it's here. God and his word are one!
This is a revival? You mean A revival of the old witchcraft? I hope you don't mean as in people repenting and turning from their sin, allowing the Holy spirit to revive their broken spirit. This video is garbage! People who fall for it aren't satisfied with Gods word, they want extra revelation they want to see and feel. God will turn such over to be deceived even more because they loved not the truth! Gods word is truth without it we perish!
I challenge anyone to show me where any of this is scripural. And Don't compare what King david did to this garbage. This is pure hinduism brought into the church to destroy people! Jesus wondered if he would find faith when he returns! If you are involved in this cult repent! Ask God's forgiveness and ask him to give you a hunger for truth, for his word. The days are drawing short the Lord is coming very soon, get out of this while you still can!
If this is Christianity, I would think sensible people would want to call themselves anything but Christians. The most idiotic religion developed yet in human history. Makes the Mormons and scientologists look reasonable.
you say so because you see the only with your fleshed eyes, sorry to say so, but king david did "crazy" things too and the Lord never talked a word against him because of his wild and manipulated way of acting. Lets pray and ask the Lord.
ecastropmx: I guess if you think that God is calling you to roll around on the floor and bark and howl like a dog and spend all night in these crazy chants, then you can do that. I would never try to stop you or anyone else. The argument expressed in your reply can and has been used to justify every sort of crazy rowdiness. Lot had procreative sex with his daughters and God said he alone was righteous in the city.
because the evil one sent you to be stumbling block, that's why, to make Christianity a burden and not a relief to the weights sitting on peoples backs.
I can't help be recall the many stories in scripture of really weird acts of God. For example; Matt 9: 20-22, the woman with 'the issue of blood' touches Messiah's tallit (garment) and gets healed. The puzzled Messiah has no idea who touched him and begins asking around? Go figure? Does that sound like a tuned in man of God?
Your characterisation of Jesus is not right. He was not "dazed and confused" or distracted. Jesus did things for the BENEFIT OF OTHERS, since He being God knew all things that we would need. He was always giving faith, see John 12:30, 11:15, 11:41-42. Jesus is not puzzled with respect to the woman with the issue of blood. He wants us to know that a Spirit-filled believer can tell when power has gone forth from him (Luke 8:46),
and to give glory to God, by enabling the whole crowd to know what has happened (next verse), and to inform us all that faith is a key ingredient if you come seeking healing (next verse). You meant the Lukan and Markan parable, not the Matthean. Do you not get the impression that Jesus was an island of calm awareness in the midst of the chaos? We are to be like Him, not like the throng. Not 'tuned out'!
Jesus said "this sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God" (part of John 11:4). Its end wasn't death because Lazarus lived. (The word 'unto' here means 'for the purpose of') Sober-mindedness is MUCH better. I came out of the deception of this so-called Glory-movement by the Grace of GOD!
Ananias and Sapphira were killed FOR LYING TO GOD (Acts 5:4, 9). They're an example for others, to save others, which is EXACTLY what the God of grace does.
You mischaracterize God when you suggest He acts without reason or for reasons that make no sense to us. GOD is a GOD of order, sanity and sobriety (1 Cor 14:40, 2 Tim 1:7, 1 Peter 1:13). When God's Spirit dwells in us we receive the ability to understand His ways, by faith and at the rate of progress He determines.
I don't want to come down too hard on you, I understand the subtilty and attraction of this movement and these feelings and experiences. But they are definitely unBiblical.
You think this is weird? Try John 6:9 where Messiah spits on the ground, makes mud and smears it on a man's face! Try John 11:4 where Jesus receives the news that Lazarus is sick and declares he wont die. (Lazarus then dies! Messiah confesses in verse 14 that Lazarus died!). Go figure? Try Acts 5:1-11 a couple refuses to give all their cash to so-called apostles. They are killed by a God of grace who demanded their cash!?
paganism, witchcraft, voodoo, demonic possession and just about anything else ya want to throw into the pot!! and Praise God, He pulled me out of this kind of worship.. I actually used to believe this tripe!!! this is absolute wickedness creeping, sneaking into the church.This is NOT from the Lord.This is satananic..every single bit of it.Anyone who is into this, call on the Lord yourself and ask HIM TO SHOW YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
I don't know, I'm not sure I want to breathe in ANYTHING they release! I guess if the room is small enough, or there's enough people releasing, well, whatever it is they're releasing (not really sure, maybe they ate something at a church dinner that disagreed with them all?), then I guess you have no CHOICE to breathe it in! Just don't get caught in the vortex! Personally, I can't believe they're videotaping this crap, let alone letting the public see it!
But there were false prophets among them, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies ...and many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of - St. Peter
I am glad to see that not everyone agrees with this falsity. Jesus is gentle and respectful; He doesn't make a spectacle of people at any time for any reason what so ever. I can't wait for the true ministers of God to come and sweep this errant garbage back to hell where it belongs. Shame on the leaders who're entrusted with souls to approve of this lunacy. In Your chosen and faithful ministers, come quickly, Lord Jesus, and bring Your Life back to America again.
This stuff doesn't come and go. It's been in churches since the Welsh revival of 1910, even before that. Joy, Laughter, Healing - just like on the day of Pentecost.
I go to a church that believes the Bible is the word of God! Rick Joyner has no respect for the word of God and proclaims himself a prophet. He is leading thousands astray while perverting the simple gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul admonished us to expose these people, the word of God is not to be tampered with or ignored. Unfortunately in these last minutes of history it's just the beginning of the apostasy.
the bible says David danced himself right out of his clothes one time,and when his wife told him he made a fool of himself he was not ashamed because what he did he did for God with all his heart and pure motives unashamed.
We don't put God in a box, the Joyner's of the world take God out of the word and make him in their image. God wants to bless his people for sure, but he doesn't want them ignorant either. We perish for lack of knowledge, we get blessed by obedience to his word. God gave us a brain for the Holy Spirit to teach us and we should be the wisest people of all. I exhort you as one following Jesus for many years (I've seen this stuff come and go) ask God for discernment it is crucial today.
I think what's worse is to deny the word of God, having no reverence for it and stepping into what ever new spiritual fad that happens to be going. So many things a being attributed to the Holy Spirit that aren't and because of the false, people are afraid of even the genuine. David danced out of pure joy for the return of the ark, he wasn't mindlessly pounding a drum or taken over by a spirit of voodoo. God and his word; the 2R1 take away or add and anything can happen.
Revisionist. Give me specifically what part of the Word of God is being violated by the above? SPECIFICALLY.
You have your cultural interpretation. And your ideas of what David's dance (2Sam 6:16) looked like and how wild/tame it was. And you can accuse mindlessness, but Joy is not something you KNOW in your mind. You FEEL it. He danced so hard, he was losing his clothes (v20). Very inappropriate.
And for the voodoo reference: I guess every cook is a voodoo then. Clanging Pots... Psalm 150...
I Cor 14 Lays the foundation for the Church. Rick Joyner and his group have gone way over the top. I speak of voodoo from another of the morningstar video's where drums and voodoo like chanting are used. Joyner has allowed anything and everything in his "church" being totally out of order and totally out of character of God. The David dancing thing has nothing to compare with this strange stuff in Joyners mess. This is far, far from what the Holy Spirit gave Paul as guideline for the church.
They're clearly evoking evil spirits, who possess them. You think that's Biblical? You're sorely mistaken. This is comparable to molesting an infant til it's murdered, then defecating on it's corpse and asking DUH? "What part of the Word of God is being violated by the above? SPECIFICALLY?"
PHIL, thank's I was trying to figure where to start with that question but you summed it up pretty well. I wonder what Paul would do if he saw what was going on now a days? I know he handed someone over to the devil in his time... but what we are seeing is false doctrine on a massive scale!
When it's extra-biblical and done in a "church" it is disturbing! It's not spotting demons it's called discernment and we need it today in the last minutes of earth like never before. We've been warned over and over in the new testament that the deception was coming...it's here! The only way to correct error is with truth God's word is truth...but few believe it anymore! If they read it at all they only believe the twisted lies of doctrines given to men by demons.
Jesus told us; we would do what He did,and "greater works " than these... I'm just saying, that just like the religious people of Jesus time.When they Jesus doing strange things,they got afraid and started calling Him a demon.
Do you really think that acting like a fool is something Jesus did? Did Jesus ever lose control, shake and jerk, ask his disciple to jump in a vortex and have a good time? These strange manifestations in the MS meeting's are nothing but foolishness taught by evil greedy men. Greater than the things Jesus did? I'm sorry but that is just plain blasphemous. We need discernment, If people don't start asking God for it... few will be left standing when he returns.
Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch.
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
I've got nothing against such kinds of worship n praying. Some of you can't understand this but...
I've been participating in services like this in the vid several times. I know people's hearts changed by God (in a really weird way - one might say).
One part of Christian world knows the Scripture. Others know and taste the Spirit AND the Scripture. The division between those two parts, two Christian worlds is starting to be more and more noticeable. I would call it CIVIL WAR.
I released something for people to breathe in a church service once. It hit them with POWER like you wouldn't believe! Some people even fell to the floor convulsing. I don't know what it was, but it was strong. I had Indian food the night before, I think maybe that had something to do with it!
This have to hurt the heart of God. For people to do these things then contribute them to him. People will miss the true move of God they wont even recognize it. Joyner is tied to Bod Jones and Todd Bentley who all believe in the Angel Emma(female) thats not in the bible.
@marinevetnc :( I felt absolutely AWFUL when I watched this footage. I will never believe anything Rick Joyner says after prophecing a "kingly anointing that will bring MONEY MONEY MONEY" over Todd Bentley. That music and the shouting made me shudder...I was convinced to go to meetings like this in the 90's and when the weird stuff dried up, pastors began physically PUSHING people over (because I had it done to me). The only revival that is real is one where there is repentance and lives
You are right, Jasmine. That "vortex" stuff. Just seducing spirits. Bobby Conner used to and maybe still does do that in his meetings, though he used to say it was an angel. Just garbage and demonic spirits. People who participate are truly delusional as are the "ministers" who preach this.Although, I believe some know exactly what they are doing and are in league with satan, as I think Rick and Bobby are.Con artists and occultists.
Doublegrace55, I think with all the stuff that is going to come down in this nation through Obamas' socialism, this kind of stuff is just going to end up meaning nothing. The people who seek signs and wonders are going to be doing good to just pay their bills, let alone prop up this nonsense and these heresies. May they get tired of it real quick! Their souls are at stake. Lord come quickly!
I think you're right about that, Jasmine. I hope not only do they tire of it, but that they see through it and stop propping it up not matter what. Lord help us.
im not sure if those ingredients really work but Jesus definately does work :) if by "altered states" you mean what Paul called, the New Man, walking in the Spirit.. ect
col 3:9-10 seeing that you have put off the old mand with his deeds and have put on the new manwhich is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created him.
i love the altered state that christ paid for, for me on the cross..
Hi :), just to clarify, no I do not mean the 'new man' when I mention 'altered states of mind' and neither does Paul in Colosians 3:9-10.
The old man was not of sober mind and was fashioned after sin and ways of a drunken world (as you see in thisvid). The New man is of sober mind and has the Mind of Christ. This brings true peace and joy.
and why is it that many of these same people were telling us not that far back to beware the jungle beat of Africa in music. this is not rhetorical, i really want to know. i thought it was stupid then, but i always wondered a little, and now i still don't know. why would a drum beat be evil anyway? is it right that everything related to Indians or Africans be considered evil because they are pagan? the same person now tells me about visions of my husband leading a drum circle for the Lord!
Wow this stuff makes Benny Hinn's revivals look like childsplay.
I've been a Christian for almost 15 years, and although no Christian is perfect - no person is perfect - it's in church's like this - with all the manifestations, tongues, etc. - that seem to have members with the most issues.
In the Pentecostal church I was a member of from 1994-2000, I found that this type of behavior is usually to compensate for the pastors' lack of understanding Scripture in context.
And let us ask why God made these people suffer in the first place? And let us ask about all civilizations that existed before and even after but due to location never saw it. Did they all go to hell?
What about all the vast life of the universe whom have never heard of Christianity? Do they all go to hell because they just happened to not be on Earth and miss out?
i am not going to argue about any particular case of someone being healed or not, i do believe in miracles and have experienced plenty of them, but limbs growing out was a very common stage act growing up in the Pentecostal church. just saying.
although never when the limb was gone completely or mangled in any way, i might add. not even one little section of a finger. can God do this? yes, and he can heal the blind as well, but it's always carpal tunnel syndrome, etc.
You can say what you want, but people got healed all the time in those meetings. I have participated in several myself. 1 Corinthians 1:27 says "God has used the foolish things of this world to confound the wise." Also, in Acts 2, people looked on in disbelief when the Holy Spirit fell on the disciples, and people supposed that they were drunk. Do you think perhaps if you had been there you would have said the same thing?
You are such a nut. God never heals amputees. God never cares about African genocide or all the war on the world, yet he'll answer ones individual prayers that are only going to benefit ones self.
Such nonsense that only uneducated morons such as yourself believe. You are both delusional and legally retarded if you think this nonsense explains the vastness of existance.
JESUS we are told walked among his people with nothing but the power that the father had gifted to him as his inheritor what do i see here THE SO CALLED POWER OF INSIGHTMENT TO WORSHIP (who)YOU TELL ME man perhaps his ways or the simplicity of jesus s walking for you and me
Those churchs that hold to Jesus and their Iniquity will be delutional 2 thess.2:19.Dose anyone ever think,is this what Jesus started 2000 years ago or would Jesus and the first disciples meet like this?
No, I apologize, I guess...God can even use us overweight people. He's been doing instant weight loss miracles. (For real.) I am hoping, believing...and seeking Him, and maybe He'll give me (and many others) a weight loss miracle. He is so awesome and cool and He loves us. Thank you, Jesus, that You are real and we can find You and actually feel Your reality.
I believe the instant weight loss "miracles" are a scam. I have been trying to lose weight too and prayed about it. The answer I got: self control. Eat less, exercise more. Love the Lord and others more than myself. I used to be in these types of demonic meetings for years. I have repented and gotten out.I am so ashamed of ever believing and participating in this evil madness.
I sincerely cannot get over the fact that these leaders are obese & grossly overweight. Aren't they ashamed? Can they truly represent Jesus Christ when they obviously are: 1) in sin (gluttony; over-abundance) 2) need deliverance 3) are deceived, (think they are good examples?)) I struggle w/obesity ... am in no condition to preach. I really do not understand. I am not being mean, I just believe as true disciples, we should be fasting more and not being food addicts. Was Jesus fat??
I agree with you here.I think it is pathetic that so many of us Christians cannot have any self control. The overweight who got that way by self indulgence should repent. There are many reasons why people gain weight but Christians/ leaders should not be that way because they are gluttonous.
Jesus is the Resurrection and the Life! He is there with you right now, ready to change your deadness and disease into His new life by the grace and power provided by His shed blood.
God is a Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.
If you are living a spiritually lifeless existence, with no power, no daily messages from God or experiences with God, then I invite you to receive the true King of the saints and the King of the Kingdom of Heaven. You probably already know His name. But He wants you know Him! Jesus the Christ is knocking on the door of your heart. Ask Him to give you a new heart, and new eyes to receive Him and believe on Him.
Basically, God created me, died and rose for me, called my name and gave me salvation and a new life in Him. And this God is doing marvellous things all around the world, including at Morningstar Ministries and many other places.
From what I see in scriptures, God promised to pour out His Spirit upon all flesh. The glory of the latter (later) church will be greater than that of the former (early) church. If Jesus is the one who baptizes people with the Holy Spirit (which He says in scriptures and John the Baptist says), then this same Jesus still baptizes His people in the Holy Spirit today.
I appreciate what God is doing in this meeting with Rick Joyner and the others from Morningstar Ministries. You really must try the spirits to see if they are from God. Those of you out there who profess to know Christ. What does His spirit inside you tell you about this clip? What does the Bible say about supernatural manifestations of God upon His people?
who knows the truth you ask? the holy spirit IS the spirit of truth and knows ALL things. Jesus said when he left earth that he would send the holy spirit to beleivers to come to make his abode in them, and he would be our counciler, teacher, comforter and he would lead and guide us into ALL truth so that we would not be tossed to and fro like a wave of the sea, wait on him and get to know him so you are not led astray, for in the last days many will come deceiving and being deceived...
All that is supernatural is not of God, the devil can copy a lot of what appears to be God. , ... i want to follow the fruit that comes out of this, because by their fruit you will know if its of God or the evil one.. will the people involved in this grow more intimate with God? more discerning and knowledgeable of his word? more holy and faithful? more gracious and abounding in godly works? or more wierd and unteachable? impatient and devisive? unholy and shallow?
Who knows the truth??? All of you claim to know it, but the only thing I see is two sides of christians critizizing each other. And in the outside are people in their way to hell. I am not to blame, but Im here to preach the good news. You should do the same!!!
I would recommend a study on 'post modernism Vs Christianity' The attitude that "no one knows the truth" or "Your truth is your truth and my truth is my truth" is a modernistic denial of the chore essentials of Christianity. Christianity has never been blurred on its essentials.
The emerging apostate church is post modern, apealing to people who do not want truth and who are gathering a crowd who want spiritual sensuality over spiritual truth.
Im not defending a way of thinking, I dont know if this is from God or just display. I am not the right person to judge... Hunting "apostate" churches... I dont think that God needs a police deparment... God will judge each one of us, so, what is the point of critizize? If they are wrong, well they are going to explain it on the jugdment day.
We have work gentlemen, there is a depraved world in the outside. And we know the truth that can save them.
Maybe if God ever moved on you in an unusual way, you would do things that you think are wierd or out of the ordinary. My God is not liminited to a box that so many put HIM in. I praise God for my home church, MORNINGSTAR MINISTRIES!!!!! God is doing extraordinary things and those who will lay down the religious spirit and lay down your preconceived ideas of how things should be done in church, will be blown away at what God will do when HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT!!!!
THis is not the power of the Holy Spirit; it's the power of suggestion, emotion, altered states (hypnosis), wanting to be like those around you, and perhaps something worse. The fruit of the Holy Spirit includes "self-control."
There is not biblical basis for Christians falling backward and falling on the floor to show the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is shown in our everyday behavior and in the fruit of the Holy Spirit detailed in Gal. 5.22-23
Acts 2:15-21"For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only the third hour of the day; but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: 'AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says, 'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS... God demands to be let out of the box so many of you critics want to keep Him in. Sorry 4 U!
This is not the ABBA Father seeketh worship they are not worshipping the Almighty God which its SPIRIT they are worshiping Satan... so sad ths people~!
missfilipiniana 1 week ago in playlist Evidence For God: End Days
Talk about seducing spirits that God warned us about... Apalling!!!
algallego 3 weeks ago
at :57 I too have something to release, that when you breathe it in, will hit you with unbelievable power as well.
I ate Indian food for dinner last night!
On the count of three................
One!........
Two!........
THREEEE!!!!!!!!!!! CLEAR THE ROOM!!!!!
GuitarWhisperer 1 month ago
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Why did Jesus say, "Father, why have you forsaken me?"
mark2112kram 2 months ago
Notice how drumming is a big part of conjuring and maintaining these demon spirits manifestations?
evAngeliis 3 months ago
I just want to go to these people and slap real hard. Maybe they'll wake up from the spiritual death they are willingly partaking of.
evAngeliis 3 months ago
Watch on youtube MINISTERS OF SATAN
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Believe me, watch the video MINISTERS OF SATAN so you don't get the REAL baptism of fire that John the baptist was actully talking about--because it's really,really hot down here!!!
Helpforheretics 4 months ago
Nothing like good old fashioned new age bless up.
claytom31 4 months ago
this guy is a false prophet for sure..receive power? blue fire? vortex of wind? they will say this is "signs and wonders", I don't see any of this in the bible. these people looked like demons were taking over them, and its very frenetic evil energy in that "church". We need to pray for these lost souls, that they will find the truth of the gospel before it is too late. This is satan at work in these last days
cancunmermaid 4 months ago
The time is near when the antichrist will appear for the great apostasy that ushers in the lawless one's arrival is upon the church. After the man of sin is revealed and has his 15 minutes, the Great King will return and destroy all those who loved not the truth but embraced the strong delusion. We live in very interesting times.
Enochsawit 5 months ago
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The anti christ is the pope.Reason 1. Paul said the anti christ would sit in the christian church and hi jack it for satan.2. John said the anti christ would rule from ROME with a false christian church called the harlot. 3.Daniel also said the anti christ would come out of THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE.4. Daniel said the anti christ would change the sabbath day kill the saints and call himself jesus's equal,the pope addmited the vatican did these things.5 JESUITS rule the freemason satanists
vispravnic 5 months ago
and the call it holly spirit? and power? power of the dark side for sure.
lunabranwen 6 months ago
I used to go to a church that was very similar to this, it was a lot of hype and sensationalism. I find absolutely nothing in the bible that supports a service like this, let alone any behavior from a child of God. It's a lot of confusion that they try to pass off as the supernatural.
childs62 7 months ago
PURE UNDILUTED PAGANISM!!! I was sucked up into this garbage and it was the faithful servants of the Most High, who LOVE God and His WORD who revealed to me this was evil...through the scriptures!!!! I could have rebelled and called them sad, un-spiritual... but I cried out to the Living God...and HE confirmed what they were showing me was the Truth..this is satanic. SATANIC.
jvsm1971 7 months ago
@jvsm1971 Well said..
Daniel1RG 7 months ago
@jvsm1971 I could rock your theology.
mark2112kram 2 months ago
@mark2112kram Give it a whirl, a good "rocking" of theology will inevitabely expose any false doctrine and teaching I've allowed into my life. So I welcome your test. Everyone needs a good shaking every now and again.
jvsm1971 2 months ago
i love how they try and talk all logical when they're spewing there bullshit. lol
Keenanville09 7 months ago
Do you see how many young people there are in this video? Everyone else knows RJ is false prophet so now he has to go after the next generation. My heart breaks for these people. Why he is still allowed to perpetrate this heresy is beyond me.
DarcieGlam 7 months ago
@DarcieGlam
oh my fucking god, the whole thing is bullshit. YOUR FAITH IS BULLSHIT, HIS FAITH IS EQUALLY AS BULLSHIT JUST LIKE ALL OF U "BELIEVERS". EVERYTHING HE IS DOING IS SCRIPTURAL IN THIS VIDEO (mark 16 ring a fucking bell). of course this guy is crazy but calling him a "false" prophet doesnt mean anything because the whole religion is false. if u think a guy got up 3 days after being tortured to death then u r crazy...ESPECIALLY when u think this because u read it in an old book...smh
Keenanville09 7 months ago
@K Why are u here checking this stuff out then?Are u trawling the santa claus vids?The toothfairy vids?I think u're "hoping" it's all untrue so u can continue living whatever way u like &"IF" there happens to be a God &"IF" Jesus Christ IS Real all along..well...all u have to do is say "but sir,I swear,I didn't know this was all real".!God is not mocked.I pray u remember what Jesus Christ said in John11:25.IAM the resurrection &the LIFE.Whosoever BELIEVES in ME, though he die, yet shall he LIVE.
jvsm1971 7 months ago
@jvsm1971
1) im here because its funny/really sad that millions of ppl believe this and 2) after about the age of ten most ppl dont believe in santa. if there was a santa religion, then maybe i would troll their vids. i would like to ask u tho, what evidence do u have for ur faith?
Keenanville09 7 months ago
This is scary...who ARE these people?
disciplesofthecross 7 months ago
That was one of the saddest things I have ever seen. Please Lord Jesus, open these people's eyes to the false gospel they are following. Let them repent and follow you. Amen.
p.s. For all non-believers out there, Rick Joyner and this nonsense has NOTHING to do with true biblical christianity.
ChimuChipmunk 9 months ago
AKA hypnosis or/and kundilini
lonenut740 10 months ago
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lonenut740 10 months ago
THIS GUY IS TOTAL BULLSH*T!
SeriousGamer2009 10 months ago
Mockers are in the Bible... Hmmm.
Uhearhim2 10 months ago
Yo, this is soooooooooooo NOT of GOD! THE HOLY SPIRIT if we really want to know if HE IS PRESENT, let us look at the FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT: "love, joy, peace, longsuffering , gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance against such there is no law." TEST EVERY SPIRIT TO SEE IF THEY ARE OF GOD. This is divination! Where is the HEALING, DELIVERANCE, CASTING OUT OF DEVILS, BREAKTHROUGH? This appears to be occultic in nature. I PRAY NOT. But, LORD JESUS CHRIST HAVE MERCY on THE CHURCH
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
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Zionism NOT the works of God but those of the Antichrist, synagogue of satan. Nor are the "Jews" in Zionism from the seed of David or Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are a forgery of Khazarian decent. They are a fake - an imitation chosen by Lucifer. They are NOT the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. Nor has the true Israel been established at the right time. Israel IS COUNTERFEIT!
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues".
Ayelyah 11 months ago
I kind of prefer the altered states demonstrated on the video to the ones demonstrated by many of the posters here. Dont kid yourself. A spirit of fear, judgment, and self-righteous arrogance is every bit as much of an altered state.
denoinwa 11 months ago 2
God says to not believe every spirit but test them to see of they are of God (Jehovah!)
356ag 11 months ago
I don't agree with a lot of stuff at MorningStar, but I'm not really sure what the aim of this video is. It seems to be to mock people who are brothers / sisters in Christ. Or if you really believe they're being manipulated, then you're simply mocking people who have psychological issues.
Either way, this has been made with a bad heart. The sad thing is, it must have taken you a fair few hours to do. How about praying for these people instead? Pharisee.
indieman83 1 year ago
I don't agree with a lot of stuff at MorningStar, but I'm not really sure what the aim of this video is. It seems to be to mock people who are brothers / sisters in Christ. Or if you really believe they're being manipulated, then you're simply mocking people who have psychological issues.
Either way, this has been made with a bad heart. The sad thing is, it must have taken you a fair few hours to do. How about praying for these people instead? Pharisee.
indieman83 1 year ago
Why they don't mention the name of the true Lord, Jesus,are they ashamed,I don't like worships or churches or congregations where I don't hear the name of my Lord,jesus.because without that name we are nobody.
artharo2 1 year ago
There is absolutely no God in this save the one they have falsely created and imagined themselves.
MGSfan95 1 year ago
yep this is true! dont know the manipulation is it the one who wrote stuff that is wrong, or the genuine work of the Holy Spirit going here! o well im called to love and bless! so blessings!
freeaworld 1 year ago
Ireneaus, 200AD (disciple of Polycarp, disciple of St. John the Apostle)
It appears probable enough that this man possesses a demon as his familiar spirit, by means of whom he seems able to prophesy, and also enables as many as he counts worthy to be partakers of his grace themselves to prophesy. He devotes himself especially to women, and those such as are well-bred, and elegantly attired, and of great wealth, whom he frequently seeks to draw after him,
lordskylark 1 year ago
by addressing them in such seductive words as these, “I am eager to make you a partaker of my grace, since the Father of all continually beholds your angel before his face. Now the place of your angel is among us: it behoves us to become one. First, receive grace from me and by me. Adorn yourself as a bride who is expecting her bridegroom, that you may be what I am, and I what you are. Establish the germ of light in your nuptial chamber.
lordskylark 1 year ago
Receive from me a spouse, and become receptive of him, while you are received by him. Behold, grace has descended upon you; open your mouth and prophesy.”
On the woman replying, “I have never at any time prophesied, nor do I know how to prophesy;” then engaging, for the second time, in certain invocations, so as to astound his deluded victim, he says to her,
lordskylark 1 year ago
“Open your mouth, speak whatsoever occurs to you, and you shall prophesy.”
She then, vainly puffed up and elated by these words, and greatly excited in soul by the expectation that it is herself who is to prophesy, her heart beating violently [from emotion], reaches the requisite pitch of audacity, and idly as well as impudently utters some nonsense as it happens to occur to her, such as might be expected from one heated by an empty spirit.
lordskylark 1 year ago
(Referring to this, one superior to me has observed, that the soul is both audacious and impudent when heated with empty air.) Henceforth she reckons herself a prophetess, and expresses her thanks to Marcus for having imparted to her of his own grace. She then makes the effort to reward him, not only by the gift of her possessions, but also by yielding up to him her person, desiring in every way to be united to him, that she may become altogether one with him.
lordskylark 1 year ago
Yes and amen. Does not scripture plainly teach 'altered states? Prayer, fasting, medication, worship! Putting off the old man of sin and putting on the new man of the Spirit!! Wake up and get in the river of Christ' spirit! 2 Months ago a top Wiccan High Priest here in L.A. gave her life to Christ because the anointing was so strong in the revival worship service!! Her life was radically changed. Sorry to hear you have "a form of Godliness" but reject the power.
riversofglory 1 year ago
ummm interesting - false prophets won't mention Jesus was the son of God come in the flesh, (that;s how you test them according the scripture)...I heard them mention, "releasing something", "God" and "Lord" but no Jesus...nuff said.
zorrow78 1 year ago
Sickening.
ManChildWitness1 1 year ago
I love how these people who are "preaching" don't even quote Scripture, let alone preach from the Scripture. And yet this is somehow legitimate?
RandPhoenix 1 year ago
i could go there and start punching ppl in the stomach "the Jesus wind made me do it, praise jesus hallelujah amen, praise baby jesus"
medievalman86 1 year ago
How about close encounters of the lost mind!!! Altered states is right! I've seen this stuff up close-People cannot stop themselves when this manifestation is on them-totally wacked out-At altar calls they often tell people to receive it and not to pray, just let the 'spirit' take over!!! This is NOT the holy spirit! Yes God does bring Joy in our lives but if you behaved like this at work,in a bank or a grocery store folks would be calling you an ambulance!! Total Delusion! Stear clear people!!
005Amergin 1 year ago
Just like the hebrews at Horeb whit the calf. They will even go to do strange practices in the true name of God, but that God didint approve. They show strange ways, which was never teach by neither apostles or faithfull.
TheSpiritualShow 1 year ago
Prating in the name of the Lord whit rock , Insanity. They just like to touch ech other like vipers, going to hide their unholy and perverted hearts and desire under The Holy Spirit name. They push each other for touching and being touch, they dance for touching and being touch, and their demonic possession contorse them just like epilectic and delisional Gods. This is not the way of God. Dont lose your time whit those vain practices; but seek to help, seek to heal, by words and deeds. S g fruit
TheSpiritualShow 1 year ago
im from argentina. o cambias tu forma de pensar o te perderás el ultimo avivamiento de papa Dios sobre la tierra. Dios no se puede pensar, sus formas de actuar no se pueden razonar, porque Dios es un dios demasiado grande como para caber en una mente humana.. si no lo entiendes como yo que tampoco entiendo mucho esto, es porque vas por buen camino. Solo debes abrir tu corazón y tu espíritu y dejar que el espíritu santo te ministre.
pablonrivera 1 year ago
The #1 cause of atheism in the world today?...Christians like these.
LetMyPeopleThink 1 year ago
OH. MY. GOODNESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I have to go get my brother to show him this hahahahahaha.
theresonlyoneMELLO 1 year ago
. . . . . like the whirling dervishes, a sufi (mystical muslim sect)
they think the Name used makes all the difference. Because the means is evil God has no part in it.
release, indeed. not repent.
never repent, in quietness decency and in the solitude of their prayer closet.
thy know NOTHING of psychology if they think these cheap highs are any kind of Spirit.
It is all flesh, carnal agitation, and cheap trickery
Strefanash 1 year ago
why does an altered state have to be in opposition to God? Isn't all of Christianity an altered state?
chrisanthemum7 1 year ago
@chrisanthemum7
it depends on what kind you are talking about. patience, gentleness, peace, rest and soundness of mind are what God would have as "altered states", not this frenzied screaming which literally majes men ripe for the psych ward (take it from me who ended up in one)
Strefanash 1 year ago
I will never understand why some christians are so engaged in trying to make other christians look bad and false, instead of trying to unite in the only important thing; Jesus Christ. These people love Jesus. -you would know if you tried to find out with a sincere heart.
durernagain 1 year ago
@durernagain The reason we are exposing the false is because we are told to. These people that claim to love Jesus don't believe in his word. We are living in the most troubled times in the history of mankind! Jesus made it clear that deception would be rampant and even the very elect would be deceived if possible. God gave us his word, his truth and sadly it is being perverted and twisted for what ever false doctrine comes along. The word of God.. is God! With out it no one will be saved!
gsong123 1 year ago
Man, I wonder what was "released" that they were supposed to breathe in? Maybe they had Taco Bell before the service?
GuitarWhisperer 1 year ago
why do they look like jumping swines?
hatesonion 1 year ago
They don't know how to submit to God..I feel sorry for them. They are trying to reach him his POWER without his CROSS. It's impossible. It's a false authority. It's a false annointing. How many times does the book of acts say that "FEAR FELL ON EVERYONE OF THEM"??? The FEAR of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
pmsou 1 year ago 12
Worship alone. let loose, see what happens. Free to worship the living God.
takenbyfaith 2 years ago
The fruit of the spirit is... self control...
Galatians 5:22-23
Rhuanjl 1 year ago
* 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned .
takenbyfaith 2 years ago
1 cor also says;
I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding 1 Cor 14:15 Joyners church is Kudalini he is masterful at taking one scripture and shredding it to fit his cult. One has to ignore a multitude of scriptures against this stuff, but feelings are so good! It's easier than faith!
gsong123 1 year ago
These older men should be ashamed of themselves. False teachers. False prophets. They are supposed to be teaching the younger men sound doctrine. They are making fools of themselves & using the name of the Lord in vain.
Forlifeandeternity 2 years ago 2
..they must turn....Teacher in Jesus is a Love thing in Bible Words.That thing here is evil and false.Cant belive that so many people go wrong...but the way to lord is a little path.
Shalom In-Christ ,ben
Spoooky76 2 years ago
We are to be imitators of Christ! Jesus was the wisest man on earth, he gave us an example to live by. If one truly loves God he will love truth and truth cometh by hearing the word of God. These heretical teachers rarely teach from the word and if they do, they twist it to justify their corruption. If we're not firmly grounded in the word we won't make it in these last days! Jesus warned us... and it's here. God and his word are one!
gsong123 2 years ago
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radicalgrace 2 years ago
stop scribbling on the revival videos!
geiroffenberg 2 years ago
This is a revival? You mean A revival of the old witchcraft? I hope you don't mean as in people repenting and turning from their sin, allowing the Holy spirit to revive their broken spirit. This video is garbage! People who fall for it aren't satisfied with Gods word, they want extra revelation they want to see and feel. God will turn such over to be deceived even more because they loved not the truth! Gods word is truth without it we perish!
gsong123 2 years ago
I challenge anyone to show me where any of this is scripural. And Don't compare what King david did to this garbage. This is pure hinduism brought into the church to destroy people! Jesus wondered if he would find faith when he returns! If you are involved in this cult repent! Ask God's forgiveness and ask him to give you a hunger for truth, for his word. The days are drawing short the Lord is coming very soon, get out of this while you still can!
gsong123 2 years ago
Rick Joyner is reading from a different bible - the one with a pentagram and goat's head.
TFarache 2 years ago
In the Vortex!!!
mustangdieselboy 2 years ago
If this is Christianity, I would think sensible people would want to call themselves anything but Christians. The most idiotic religion developed yet in human history. Makes the Mormons and scientologists look reasonable.
klard 2 years ago
you say so because you see the only with your fleshed eyes, sorry to say so, but king david did "crazy" things too and the Lord never talked a word against him because of his wild and manipulated way of acting. Lets pray and ask the Lord.
ecastropmx 2 years ago
ecastropmx: I guess if you think that God is calling you to roll around on the floor and bark and howl like a dog and spend all night in these crazy chants, then you can do that. I would never try to stop you or anyone else. The argument expressed in your reply can and has been used to justify every sort of crazy rowdiness. Lot had procreative sex with his daughters and God said he alone was righteous in the city.
klard 2 years ago
whats wrong with this
they're having fun
how can you guys possibly criticize this
because the evil one sent you to be stumbling block, that's why, to make Christianity a burden and not a relief to the weights sitting on peoples backs.
togowack 2 years ago
I can't help be recall the many stories in scripture of really weird acts of God. For example; Matt 9: 20-22, the woman with 'the issue of blood' touches Messiah's tallit (garment) and gets healed. The puzzled Messiah has no idea who touched him and begins asking around? Go figure? Does that sound like a tuned in man of God?
riversofglory 2 years ago
Your characterisation of Jesus is not right. He was not "dazed and confused" or distracted. Jesus did things for the BENEFIT OF OTHERS, since He being God knew all things that we would need. He was always giving faith, see John 12:30, 11:15, 11:41-42. Jesus is not puzzled with respect to the woman with the issue of blood. He wants us to know that a Spirit-filled believer can tell when power has gone forth from him (Luke 8:46),
Enoch2 2 years ago
and to give glory to God, by enabling the whole crowd to know what has happened (next verse), and to inform us all that faith is a key ingredient if you come seeking healing (next verse). You meant the Lukan and Markan parable, not the Matthean. Do you not get the impression that Jesus was an island of calm awareness in the midst of the chaos? We are to be like Him, not like the throng. Not 'tuned out'!
Praise JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY WISE GOD!!!!
Enoch2 2 years ago
Jesus said "this sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God" (part of John 11:4). Its end wasn't death because Lazarus lived. (The word 'unto' here means 'for the purpose of') Sober-mindedness is MUCH better. I came out of the deception of this so-called Glory-movement by the Grace of GOD!
Ananias and Sapphira were killed FOR LYING TO GOD (Acts 5:4, 9). They're an example for others, to save others, which is EXACTLY what the God of grace does.
Enoch2 2 years ago 2
You mischaracterize God when you suggest He acts without reason or for reasons that make no sense to us. GOD is a GOD of order, sanity and sobriety (1 Cor 14:40, 2 Tim 1:7, 1 Peter 1:13). When God's Spirit dwells in us we receive the ability to understand His ways, by faith and at the rate of progress He determines.
I don't want to come down too hard on you, I understand the subtilty and attraction of this movement and these feelings and experiences. But they are definitely unBiblical.
Enoch2 2 years ago
You think this is weird? Try John 6:9 where Messiah spits on the ground, makes mud and smears it on a man's face! Try John 11:4 where Jesus receives the news that Lazarus is sick and declares he wont die. (Lazarus then dies! Messiah confesses in verse 14 that Lazarus died!). Go figure? Try Acts 5:1-11 a couple refuses to give all their cash to so-called apostles. They are killed by a God of grace who demanded their cash!?
riversofglory 2 years ago
It's so sad to see people who wrote good books about deception, are now deceived themselves and following doctrines and signs of demons.
OStark 2 years ago
It's called mass hysteria.
Pennee101 2 years ago
paganism, witchcraft, voodoo, demonic possession and just about anything else ya want to throw into the pot!! and Praise God, He pulled me out of this kind of worship.. I actually used to believe this tripe!!! this is absolute wickedness creeping, sneaking into the church.This is NOT from the Lord.This is satananic..every single bit of it.Anyone who is into this, call on the Lord yourself and ask HIM TO SHOW YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
0871368021 2 years ago
OMG! This people really releasing the spirit of satan...what a deception..
zerayim 2 years ago
I don't know, I'm not sure I want to breathe in ANYTHING they release! I guess if the room is small enough, or there's enough people releasing, well, whatever it is they're releasing (not really sure, maybe they ate something at a church dinner that disagreed with them all?), then I guess you have no CHOICE to breathe it in! Just don't get caught in the vortex! Personally, I can't believe they're videotaping this crap, let alone letting the public see it!
GuitarWhisperer 2 years ago
But there were false prophets among them, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies ...and many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of - St. Peter
conspiracytogolf 2 years ago
I am glad to see that not everyone agrees with this falsity. Jesus is gentle and respectful; He doesn't make a spectacle of people at any time for any reason what so ever. I can't wait for the true ministers of God to come and sweep this errant garbage back to hell where it belongs. Shame on the leaders who're entrusted with souls to approve of this lunacy. In Your chosen and faithful ministers, come quickly, Lord Jesus, and bring Your Life back to America again.
VallleyAnt 2 years ago
That Tori creature scares me.
DiamondHobbit 2 years ago
In reply to 'gsong123'
This stuff doesn't come and go. It's been in churches since the Welsh revival of 1910, even before that. Joy, Laughter, Healing - just like on the day of Pentecost.
Don't know what churches you go to?
zinbu 2 years ago
I go to a church that believes the Bible is the word of God! Rick Joyner has no respect for the word of God and proclaims himself a prophet. He is leading thousands astray while perverting the simple gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul admonished us to expose these people, the word of God is not to be tampered with or ignored. Unfortunately in these last minutes of history it's just the beginning of the apostasy.
gsong123 2 years ago 5
Rick Joyner will have to pay dearly for what he has done, I don't even want to be within miles of him on judgement day.
Are those people really singing I am a fool? Christians are to be wise and discerning not fools! Go to Church and become a fool...GREAT!
gsong123 2 years ago
the bible says David danced himself right out of his clothes one time,and when his wife told him he made a fool of himself he was not ashamed because what he did he did for God with all his heart and pure motives unashamed.
bsonor 2 years ago 2
why put God in a box, He wants to bless people! God is love!!!!!
lynzcasper7 2 years ago
We don't put God in a box, the Joyner's of the world take God out of the word and make him in their image. God wants to bless his people for sure, but he doesn't want them ignorant either. We perish for lack of knowledge, we get blessed by obedience to his word. God gave us a brain for the Holy Spirit to teach us and we should be the wisest people of all. I exhort you as one following Jesus for many years (I've seen this stuff come and go) ask God for discernment it is crucial today.
gsong123 2 years ago
Speaking as someone who has been in meetings of this nature... It all looks very weird. And some of it is fake. And some of it isn't.
And people mocked David when he danced before God. They probably were quoting all kinds of scriptural reasons why he shouldn't do that.
I don't know what's more dangerous: To be hungry for God so much you'll do anything or to be so keen on accusing the brethren you'll believe nothing.
Svenleigh 2 years ago
I think what's worse is to deny the word of God, having no reverence for it and stepping into what ever new spiritual fad that happens to be going. So many things a being attributed to the Holy Spirit that aren't and because of the false, people are afraid of even the genuine. David danced out of pure joy for the return of the ark, he wasn't mindlessly pounding a drum or taken over by a spirit of voodoo. God and his word; the 2R1 take away or add and anything can happen.
gsong123 2 years ago 2
Revisionist. Give me specifically what part of the Word of God is being violated by the above? SPECIFICALLY.
You have your cultural interpretation. And your ideas of what David's dance (2Sam 6:16) looked like and how wild/tame it was. And you can accuse mindlessness, but Joy is not something you KNOW in your mind. You FEEL it. He danced so hard, he was losing his clothes (v20). Very inappropriate.
And for the voodoo reference: I guess every cook is a voodoo then. Clanging Pots... Psalm 150...
Svenleigh 2 years ago
I Cor 14 Lays the foundation for the Church. Rick Joyner and his group have gone way over the top. I speak of voodoo from another of the morningstar video's where drums and voodoo like chanting are used. Joyner has allowed anything and everything in his "church" being totally out of order and totally out of character of God. The David dancing thing has nothing to compare with this strange stuff in Joyners mess. This is far, far from what the Holy Spirit gave Paul as guideline for the church.
gsong123 2 years ago
They're clearly evoking evil spirits, who possess them. You think that's Biblical? You're sorely mistaken. This is comparable to molesting an infant til it's murdered, then defecating on it's corpse and asking DUH? "What part of the Word of God is being violated by the above? SPECIFICALLY?"
The answer: EVERY SINGLE PART!
philochs 2 years ago
PHIL, thank's I was trying to figure where to start with that question but you summed it up pretty well. I wonder what Paul would do if he saw what was going on now a days? I know he handed someone over to the devil in his time... but what we are seeing is false doctrine on a massive scale!
gsong123 2 years ago
why are people so quick to spot demons,because we see something disturbing or out of the ordinary?
bsonor 2 years ago
When it's extra-biblical and done in a "church" it is disturbing! It's not spotting demons it's called discernment and we need it today in the last minutes of earth like never before. We've been warned over and over in the new testament that the deception was coming...it's here! The only way to correct error is with truth God's word is truth...but few believe it anymore! If they read it at all they only believe the twisted lies of doctrines given to men by demons.
gsong123 2 years ago
Jesus told us; we would do what He did,and "greater works " than these... I'm just saying, that just like the religious people of Jesus time.When they Jesus doing strange things,they got afraid and started calling Him a demon.
bsonor 2 years ago
Bsonor, Don't compare Jesus to a den of serpents and wolfs, seeking whom to devour, it's unbecoming.
philochs 2 years ago
Do you really think that acting like a fool is something Jesus did? Did Jesus ever lose control, shake and jerk, ask his disciple to jump in a vortex and have a good time? These strange manifestations in the MS meeting's are nothing but foolishness taught by evil greedy men. Greater than the things Jesus did? I'm sorry but that is just plain blasphemous. We need discernment, If people don't start asking God for it... few will be left standing when he returns.
gsong123 2 years ago
Acts 20:28-31
Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch.
lordskylark 2 years ago
2 Peter 2: 1-2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
Ibesita21 2 years ago 2
I've got nothing against such kinds of worship n praying. Some of you can't understand this but...
I've been participating in services like this in the vid several times. I know people's hearts changed by God (in a really weird way - one might say).
One part of Christian world knows the Scripture. Others know and taste the Spirit AND the Scripture. The division between those two parts, two Christian worlds is starting to be more and more noticeable. I would call it CIVIL WAR.
mcfunthomas 2 years ago
I released something for people to breathe in a church service once. It hit them with POWER like you wouldn't believe! Some people even fell to the floor convulsing. I don't know what it was, but it was strong. I had Indian food the night before, I think maybe that had something to do with it!
strumalongwithme 2 years ago
Truly sad...what biblically ignorant people associate with God...sad..
mistermiguel17 2 years ago
Thank you for making these type of videos...
GOD BLESS
PureFireArcher 2 years ago
This have to hurt the heart of God. For people to do these things then contribute them to him. People will miss the true move of God they wont even recognize it. Joyner is tied to Bod Jones and Todd Bentley who all believe in the Angel Emma(female) thats not in the bible.
marinevetnc 2 years ago 6
@marinevetnc :( I felt absolutely AWFUL when I watched this footage. I will never believe anything Rick Joyner says after prophecing a "kingly anointing that will bring MONEY MONEY MONEY" over Todd Bentley. That music and the shouting made me shudder...I was convinced to go to meetings like this in the 90's and when the weird stuff dried up, pastors began physically PUSHING people over (because I had it done to me). The only revival that is real is one where there is repentance and lives
zorrow78 1 year ago
@zorrow78 changing, :(. Fortunately more and more brothers and sisters are waking up, while others are steadily being deceived.
zorrow78 1 year ago
lol I like jumping into the vortex, it's fun! I want God to open a vortex in my bedroom.
GloryInvasion 2 years ago
Not one of them stopped to test a thing. This is just one reason God sends a delusion.
JasmineMcEgan 2 years ago 3
You are right, Jasmine. That "vortex" stuff. Just seducing spirits. Bobby Conner used to and maybe still does do that in his meetings, though he used to say it was an angel. Just garbage and demonic spirits. People who participate are truly delusional as are the "ministers" who preach this.Although, I believe some know exactly what they are doing and are in league with satan, as I think Rick and Bobby are.Con artists and occultists.
DoubleGrace55 2 years ago
Doublegrace55, I think with all the stuff that is going to come down in this nation through Obamas' socialism, this kind of stuff is just going to end up meaning nothing. The people who seek signs and wonders are going to be doing good to just pay their bills, let alone prop up this nonsense and these heresies. May they get tired of it real quick! Their souls are at stake. Lord come quickly!
JasmineMcEgan 2 years ago
I think you're right about that, Jasmine. I hope not only do they tire of it, but that they see through it and stop propping it up not matter what. Lord help us.
DoubleGrace55 2 years ago
This is a cult, no doubt. They will die in their sins if they don't repent of this wickedness and idolatry.
raideragent 2 years ago 2
im not sure if those ingredients really work but Jesus definately does work :) if by "altered states" you mean what Paul called, the New Man, walking in the Spirit.. ect
col 3:9-10 seeing that you have put off the old mand with his deeds and have put on the new manwhich is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created him.
i love the altered state that christ paid for, for me on the cross..
(also see romans 6 and romans 8 and 2 cor 5:17)
love you guys
nmcahill 2 years ago
Hi :), just to clarify, no I do not mean the 'new man' when I mention 'altered states of mind' and neither does Paul in Colosians 3:9-10.
The old man was not of sober mind and was fashioned after sin and ways of a drunken world (as you see in thisvid). The New man is of sober mind and has the Mind of Christ. This brings true peace and joy.
God bless
Ahouseisnotahome 2 years ago 2
Rick has Todd Bentley in a "restoration" program, Tood is on his way back!
JimQualls 2 years ago
Can't wait for that one!!!! I know we aren't supposed to look on the outer person but in Todd's case that was impossible for me!!
usgop 2 years ago
and why is it that many of these same people were telling us not that far back to beware the jungle beat of Africa in music. this is not rhetorical, i really want to know. i thought it was stupid then, but i always wondered a little, and now i still don't know. why would a drum beat be evil anyway? is it right that everything related to Indians or Africans be considered evil because they are pagan? the same person now tells me about visions of my husband leading a drum circle for the Lord!
weberly2 2 years ago
This is new age teaching`s! Breathing sin!
missionoc 2 years ago
It's closer to voodoo than new age.
day50912A 2 years ago
Wow this stuff makes Benny Hinn's revivals look like childsplay.
I've been a Christian for almost 15 years, and although no Christian is perfect - no person is perfect - it's in church's like this - with all the manifestations, tongues, etc. - that seem to have members with the most issues.
In the Pentecostal church I was a member of from 1994-2000, I found that this type of behavior is usually to compensate for the pastors' lack of understanding Scripture in context.
tylersfs 2 years ago
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And let us ask why God made these people suffer in the first place? And let us ask about all civilizations that existed before and even after but due to location never saw it. Did they all go to hell?
What about all the vast life of the universe whom have never heard of Christianity? Do they all go to hell because they just happened to not be on Earth and miss out?
Mrgyn 2 years ago
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Mrgyn 2 years ago
That girl in the orange shirt at the end had her arm grow out, I think four inches. It ha dbeen deformed since birth.
mark2112kram 3 years ago
i am not going to argue about any particular case of someone being healed or not, i do believe in miracles and have experienced plenty of them, but limbs growing out was a very common stage act growing up in the Pentecostal church. just saying.
weberly2 2 years ago
although never when the limb was gone completely or mangled in any way, i might add. not even one little section of a finger. can God do this? yes, and he can heal the blind as well, but it's always carpal tunnel syndrome, etc.
weberly2 2 years ago
Hey, around 2:48... I was in that class! :)
You can say what you want, but people got healed all the time in those meetings. I have participated in several myself. 1 Corinthians 1:27 says "God has used the foolish things of this world to confound the wise." Also, in Acts 2, people looked on in disbelief when the Holy Spirit fell on the disciples, and people supposed that they were drunk. Do you think perhaps if you had been there you would have said the same thing?
mark2112kram 3 years ago
Mark:
You are such a nut. God never heals amputees. God never cares about African genocide or all the war on the world, yet he'll answer ones individual prayers that are only going to benefit ones self.
Such nonsense that only uneducated morons such as yourself believe. You are both delusional and legally retarded if you think this nonsense explains the vastness of existance.
Mrgyn 2 years ago
I have felt the Holy Ghost, but this is not the same feeling. This isn't of God.
freright123 3 years ago
It is the same demon spirit as in Lakeland... lust for experiences but no love for the Word of God...
TrueRevivalNow 3 years ago 4
babylon and its pillars. It scares me that man in his desperation for hope has called into ill repute jesus's name
anthfantastic 3 years ago 2
JESUS we are told walked among his people with nothing but the power that the father had gifted to him as his inheritor what do i see here THE SO CALLED POWER OF INSIGHTMENT TO WORSHIP (who)YOU TELL ME man perhaps his ways or the simplicity of jesus s walking for you and me
anthfantastic 3 years ago
thanks for exposing these false prophets!
asuzette 3 years ago
Those churchs that hold to Jesus and their Iniquity will be delutional 2 thess.2:19.Dose anyone ever think,is this what Jesus started 2000 years ago or would Jesus and the first disciples meet like this?
christophorM 3 years ago
dont bring jesus into a place of ill repute because i love him
anthfantastic 3 years ago
pride never moves
anthfantastic 3 years ago
No, I apologize, I guess...God can even use us overweight people. He's been doing instant weight loss miracles. (For real.) I am hoping, believing...and seeking Him, and maybe He'll give me (and many others) a weight loss miracle. He is so awesome and cool and He loves us. Thank you, Jesus, that You are real and we can find You and actually feel Your reality.
earthalien77 3 years ago
I believe the instant weight loss "miracles" are a scam. I have been trying to lose weight too and prayed about it. The answer I got: self control. Eat less, exercise more. Love the Lord and others more than myself. I used to be in these types of demonic meetings for years. I have repented and gotten out.I am so ashamed of ever believing and participating in this evil madness.
DoubleGrace55 2 years ago 4
Praise God you have gotten out of the madness. Lovely story, thanks for sharing.
Ahouseisnotahome 2 years ago
I sincerely cannot get over the fact that these leaders are obese & grossly overweight. Aren't they ashamed? Can they truly represent Jesus Christ when they obviously are: 1) in sin (gluttony; over-abundance) 2) need deliverance 3) are deceived, (think they are good examples?)) I struggle w/obesity ... am in no condition to preach. I really do not understand. I am not being mean, I just believe as true disciples, we should be fasting more and not being food addicts. Was Jesus fat??
elisaforever303 3 years ago
I agree with you here.I think it is pathetic that so many of us Christians cannot have any self control. The overweight who got that way by self indulgence should repent. There are many reasons why people gain weight but Christians/ leaders should not be that way because they are gluttonous.
DoubleGrace55 2 years ago
Brainwashing, plain and simple.
Baronvonbutcher 3 years ago 2
People who are calling this an 'anointing' are sorely deluded.
You look for God in all the wrong places, you seek power anywhere accept for in the Gospel.
You have been robbed of the simplicity of Christ.
You seek revelation everywhere except for where God has revealed Himself, at the foot of the Cross.
You mistake hype for the Joy of the Lord.
Enjoy your vortex, jump in, but at the end you will realise the folly of men who claim to be spiritual and inside are empty vessles.
Ahouseisnotahome 3 years ago
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There is an intense anointing on this video.
Thanks you Jesus!
GloryInvasion 3 years ago
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DoubleGrace55 2 years ago
Jesus is the Resurrection and the Life! He is there with you right now, ready to change your deadness and disease into His new life by the grace and power provided by His shed blood.
God is a Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.
Cartoon11Fun 3 years ago
If you are living a spiritually lifeless existence, with no power, no daily messages from God or experiences with God, then I invite you to receive the true King of the saints and the King of the Kingdom of Heaven. You probably already know His name. But He wants you know Him! Jesus the Christ is knocking on the door of your heart. Ask Him to give you a new heart, and new eyes to receive Him and believe on Him.
B1WhoOvercomes 3 years ago
Basically, God created me, died and rose for me, called my name and gave me salvation and a new life in Him. And this God is doing marvellous things all around the world, including at Morningstar Ministries and many other places.
B1WhoOvercomes 3 years ago
Then you got the wrong "jesus". This junk is from satan, not God. Be warned and repent.
DoubleGrace55 2 years ago
From what I see in scriptures, God promised to pour out His Spirit upon all flesh. The glory of the latter (later) church will be greater than that of the former (early) church. If Jesus is the one who baptizes people with the Holy Spirit (which He says in scriptures and John the Baptist says), then this same Jesus still baptizes His people in the Holy Spirit today.
B1WhoOvercomes 3 years ago
I appreciate what God is doing in this meeting with Rick Joyner and the others from Morningstar Ministries. You really must try the spirits to see if they are from God. Those of you out there who profess to know Christ. What does His spirit inside you tell you about this clip? What does the Bible say about supernatural manifestations of God upon His people?
B1WhoOvercomes 3 years ago
who knows the truth you ask? the holy spirit IS the spirit of truth and knows ALL things. Jesus said when he left earth that he would send the holy spirit to beleivers to come to make his abode in them, and he would be our counciler, teacher, comforter and he would lead and guide us into ALL truth so that we would not be tossed to and fro like a wave of the sea, wait on him and get to know him so you are not led astray, for in the last days many will come deceiving and being deceived...
rimfired 3 years ago
All that is supernatural is not of God, the devil can copy a lot of what appears to be God. , ... i want to follow the fruit that comes out of this, because by their fruit you will know if its of God or the evil one.. will the people involved in this grow more intimate with God? more discerning and knowledgeable of his word? more holy and faithful? more gracious and abounding in godly works? or more wierd and unteachable? impatient and devisive? unholy and shallow?
rimfired 3 years ago 3
Who knows the truth??? All of you claim to know it, but the only thing I see is two sides of christians critizizing each other. And in the outside are people in their way to hell. I am not to blame, but Im here to preach the good news. You should do the same!!!
sylvanio199 3 years ago
I would recommend a study on 'post modernism Vs Christianity' The attitude that "no one knows the truth" or "Your truth is your truth and my truth is my truth" is a modernistic denial of the chore essentials of Christianity. Christianity has never been blurred on its essentials.
The emerging apostate church is post modern, apealing to people who do not want truth and who are gathering a crowd who want spiritual sensuality over spiritual truth.
God bless you sylvanio199.
Ahouseisnotahome 3 years ago
Im not defending a way of thinking, I dont know if this is from God or just display. I am not the right person to judge... Hunting "apostate" churches... I dont think that God needs a police deparment... God will judge each one of us, so, what is the point of critizize? If they are wrong, well they are going to explain it on the jugdment day.
We have work gentlemen, there is a depraved world in the outside. And we know the truth that can save them.
Blessings
sylvanio199 3 years ago
Right on!
astorianygirl 3 years ago
Maybe if God ever moved on you in an unusual way, you would do things that you think are wierd or out of the ordinary. My God is not liminited to a box that so many put HIM in. I praise God for my home church, MORNINGSTAR MINISTRIES!!!!! God is doing extraordinary things and those who will lay down the religious spirit and lay down your preconceived ideas of how things should be done in church, will be blown away at what God will do when HE IS ALLOWED TO DO IT!!!!
AbbasPrincess38 3 years ago
THis is not the power of the Holy Spirit; it's the power of suggestion, emotion, altered states (hypnosis), wanting to be like those around you, and perhaps something worse. The fruit of the Holy Spirit includes "self-control."
There is not biblical basis for Christians falling backward and falling on the floor to show the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is shown in our everyday behavior and in the fruit of the Holy Spirit detailed in Gal. 5.22-23
CANAMarcia 3 years ago
Acts 2:15-21"For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only the third hour of the day; but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: 'AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says, 'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS... God demands to be let out of the box so many of you critics want to keep Him in. Sorry 4 U!
imgoinup 3 years ago