Ben Stein on Glenn Beck's show about Intelligent Design

[McNutzo]

DUDE! SCIENCE DOESN'T KNOW EVERYTHING!!!! THAT PROVES INTELLIGENT DESIGN RIGHT THERE!

[LOL4Polio]

Very true, evolution does not explain the origin of life. Thats abiogenesis. Yet he goes on to attack evolution as if it does. I hope that "lighting + puddle = boeing 747" is the dumbest thing this man has ever said, it's hard to imagine anything dumber. "I'm not a scientist" is probably the smartest thing he has ever said, maybe he should live a though he believed that.

[MrBeefreetwo]

after 50 years of studying in the universities in astronomy ,physics an religion.taking it all in,i believe in the god of the bible cause it describes man to a tee.an solves the enormous problem for atheists an non belivers about the origin of good an evil.no man or society can set the standards..only a god without sin an blemish can do that.JESUS said who can convict me of sin.!! an why is there something rather than nothing.surely all of the universe cannot come of itself.

[MrBeefreetwo]

there is no god.after 50 years of studying in the universities in astronomh ,physics an religion.taking it all in,i believe in the god of the bible cause it describes man to a tee.an solves the enormous problem for atheists an non belivers about the origin of good an evil.no man or society can set the standards..only a god without sin an blemish can do that.JESUS said who can convict me of sin.!! an why is there something rather than nothing.surely all of the universe cannot come of itself.

[CBALLEN]

Evo-atheists aren't interest in finding the truth about creation or how everything got here,this is what most people don't understand,they're interested in proving that God is not needed.The secular community have lied about,hidden,ignored or destroyed many things that go against what they want to believe,there's plenty of evidence in the past that prove this.They censor things they don't like when others try to expose them.

[CBALLEN]

Evolution is the protected pet rock of the atheists,it's not a real pet but some day they think it might be.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN : Salvation logic.He decides to redeem mankind, to save them from his eternal damnation.To do so, he will send his son to be murdered as a sacrifice to himself,in atonement for the transgressions committed aginst himself. He chooses a people to help him do it. He makes sure that theyknow of his plan by sending hunderds of prophets, But if they know he is the Messiah, they will not kill him, and the plan will be spoiled. She he makes the prophecies murky. His scheme works. What a script

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko No man can be saved either unless He changes them first too.So God does all He does in salvation for His own glory.He has even chosen those who will believe before time,He 's also chosen all that He will leave in their sin as examples to His Children,the saved.He shows them what their sin would have lead to if He had not saved them.So even the atheists have their role as examples of wrath and judgment.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN .He has even chosen those who will believe before time.. ..

That is GREAT news, So, we don`t have to worry, either we are chosen or we are not. There is nothing we can do to change this.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko Well,you can turn to Christ and make your election sure or you can keep going where you're going and know that you were chosen to believe. Kone of us know unless we either become believers or die as unbelievers.Man can't choose to live a wicked life and think he can just say a prayer at the end(if it ends up that way) as some Christians think it can happen,it's not a prayer that saves you,it's really believing and a turning from the sin God shows us in our lives.

[CBALLEN]

@CBALLEN Should be(were not chosen to believe.) in the 2nd sentence.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko So if you actually believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation,if you know that He died for your sins ,to make you Holy before God,then you know that God has drawn you to this by His Holy Spirit and Jesus has saved you,and will keep you into Glory.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko The Bible tells us today is the day of salvation,it also says,Jesus said,No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up on the last day.John 6:44.From man's perspective He turns in repentance and believes ,but your repentance was caused by God through the New Birth of regeneration.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko You see,when you have been forgiven it means from all your past,present and future sins.God does not see you as you really are anymore,when He looks at you now He sees His Son.Jesus imparts His righteousness to His believers.Saved people will then undergo sanctification,this means they will slowly start to conform to the Life of Jesus and their sins will be fewer,but they won't be sinless until death when they are glorified.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko I want to clarify something,Jesus did save the thief on the cross to show us that none of our works can save us,the thief showed true repentance and belief when he asked Jesus to remember him when He came into His kingdom. Remember Jesus said"Today you will be with me in paradise and he was,that's where all of the O.t. saints went who believed in the coming Messiah and that's where the thief went escorted by Jesus.Jesus went to paradise and took all the O.T. SAINTS TO Heaven later.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN That is a touching story. Now give me evidence that it is not fiction .

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko There again you are commanded to believe on Christ by God and if you cannot believe it through hearing the preaching of the word,then God is not trying to save you,in fact,He never fails at anything,..He does all He pleases in the Heavens and on Earth.Isaiah 55:11 makes it clear,when God's word is preached it always accomplishes what is was sent for,it brings the sheep to Christ or closer to Christ,since some plant and others water,but God gives the increase,or they are repelled by it.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko The gist of the whole thing is,man is so depraved that when He knew God he always refuses to glorify Him and he chooses to glorify the creation instead of the Creator.Man naturally hates God and would never worship Him on their own,so if God did not change the the ones who He saves first,all people would go to Hell.Things like abortion and homosexuality are actually judgments on depraved men,He has removed His restraint on them and this is what they do to prove man's depravity.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN Evolution is fact, creation is bulls... so much so that even YOUR OWN CHRISTIAN colleges do not teach litteral biblical creation.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko Actually Darwinian Evolution has been shown to have no facts to back it up what so ever.Many atheist-evo scientists who would love nothing better than to believe in a purely natural beginning and acsent have come out in writing that they know Darwinian-ism is just a joke and that it has no bases at all to be believed.Others admit that they teach it because there are no other naturalistic theories around and none want to even imagine the horrible thought of a Creator being the cause.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko Check out the video I have favored on my page and see for yourself what many in the know have said.Just because a majority of secular scientists believe it doesn't mean it's true,especially when they are all together they will admit to each other that there really is no evidence for it.Darwinian-ism is just what all scientists who work in the secular realm are expected to bow to,that is if they value their career,that's all.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN Man, you must be nuts, to claim a conspiracy of 540,000 scientists(polled by Newsweek) who stand behind evolution. Wouldn`t it be easier to claim a conspiracy of the 700 bona fide scientists ,who stand behind creation. ? There are certainly cases where scientists keep their mouth shut to keep their job, but that are the exceptions and that happens everywhere. To claim a general conpiracy is insane..

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko Since there's no evidence for Darwinian evo it is a conspiracy to keep any opposition to it out of schools.

[CBALLEN]

It only take those in power to be true believers,all those under them dare not let their true beliefs be known if they value their reputations and careers.There are numerous stories that can be confirmed,that let us know that anyone who questions the sacred cow of Darwinism will lose their jobs and have their reputations and careers ruined.Darwinism is A RELIGION ,that is believed in spite of the facts not because of them since there is no proof for it,they just hate God that much.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN Since there are mountains of evidence, scientists( 99,97 % of scientists in the apropriate fields) back evolution, millions of christians back evolution, The cath church has no qualms with evolution. The US courts decided evolution is what has to be teached in the US schools. Did you ever visit a museum of natural history ? Did you ?

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko There are not mountains of evidence for D-evolution,ignorant people may think or believe there is,but that just isn't true.there is absolutely none,all they have is evidence for variation and then it's extrapolation from their into fantasy land..

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN Well, write a scientific paper and convince the scientific community. Sciense is built on attempts to prove it wrong. And if you can`t prove it wrong or are unwilling to do so, shut up. There is a way to make your voice heard. Take it.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko Many true believers in D-E have done this already.There are many who are atheist-evos that will tell you flat out and have done so in writing,that Darwinian-ism is a joke and a scam.They call it junk science.Go to my page and check out my main Favorited video and see a few of these for yourself.

[ndzoko]

@CBALLEN my main Favorited video and see a few of these for yourself>>> I have no need to hear or read the ideas of A FEW.  I have 540,000 scientists behind evolution. That`s enough for me.

[CBALLEN]

@ndzoko Yeah,and most are afraid to tell us what they really believe ,they want to keep their jobs and don't want their reputations ruined.

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko Well theres alot of evidence that proves it wrong name one that proves the existance of god wrong. Oh but when it comes to that its not science now. So if science is evidence to prove something wrong then god was never proven wrong because theres no evidence just as evolution has no evidence it ever happened, But lets see there is evidence for creation when all the things in life depend on each other. Like trees we need them for oxygen they need us for carbondioxide.

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 Your comment denotes either a primitive intelligence or education.. One can never prove the NON-EXISTANCE of anything, To claim the non-existance one has to know everything in the whole universe(s) . It is the one who makes a positive claim to provide evidence. If I claim to have seen a flying rabbit, do I ask YOU to prove me wrong ? NO, you ask ME to prove it. Now , prove the exsitence of a deity. I am waiting.

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 There might be a god, but a loving, compassionate, forgiving, JUST god, as christians portray god, is not possible. Tell me why this JUST,loving god let`s or makes the INNOCENT suffer ?

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko Take one animal out of the enviroment and through time it will cause a chain reaction of extinction and over population of others causing more extinction. So to say theres no purpose and we dont need one or the other to survive then we should be able to survive without trees or plants and animals but we cant we are all here for a purpose. To balance out nature and to further populate the earth to keep the balance of nature.

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 This superintelligent creator supposedly Adam and Eve to go forth and multiply and conquer the earth... But he never instructed us when to stop

. We conquered the earth and we multiplied like rabbits, hence 2 billion going hungry every day, 35,000 children dying of hunger today. This creator likes misery. He is(if he exists) either a desinterested spectator of human misery or worse a sadist enjoying it.

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko And if evolution is true how would it know to evolve us to need this how would the bacteria know what to eat if it wasnt passed down through parents. Especially if cells were the first things to evolve before anything else. Why would it make trees to breath carbondioxide instead of oxgen. And why would evolution make us to have to eat to live and breath to live why would evolution make it harder to live if it is suppose to make it easier

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 And if evolution is true how would it know to evolve >

. It doesn`t. STUDY, the enemy before starting the battle. Why would a creator make the building block of life, the cell, so complicated, when being ALMIGHTY, he could have made it very simple. Do you know of any ingenieer who makes his machine more complicated than necessary ?

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 And why would evolution make us to have to eat to live and breath to live why would evolution make it harder to live if it is suppose to make it easier >>

And why would a creator make us to have to eat to live and breath to live, why would a creator make it harder to live if he is supposed to make it easier ?

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko What evidence the evidence based on belief that is not really evidence. Tell me has any scientist ever seen anything evolve from the evidence they claim meaning anything evolve to a totally different species from macroevolution or microevolution has a new species ever come out of those two ideas. No they didnt so all that evidence is not evidence because it did not get results so its not science its belief

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 : Go and visit a museum of natural history. The records of fossils is complete enough, that in some cases scientists predicted to find fossils of an animal with predicted charakteristics and found exactly that .. If you are given a series of blocs, numbered from 1 to 100, and you can`t find bloc numbered 42. Are you going to conclude 49 never existed ? What is the probability ?

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko And technically its not even evidence

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko So your mountain of evidence turned into non existance which means not science or theory but belief. Why dont we keep both beliefs out of school if both of them cant be taught together.

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 Put your question to the US courts. They examined the question thoroughly.

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko Ya and look at what happened to those seven hundred so you say scientists that did open their mouth they lost their funding and their jobs well you can see why scientists keep their mouth shut and spread the lie

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 I advice you to study. You are bleating nonsense. Fighting something you have no clue what it is. Another conspiracy nut. You mean 540,000 scientists keep their jobs to keep lying from morning till night ? If you have some education in psychology this is IMPOSSIBLE.

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko How can you claim something is true when there is no evidence of it happening only belief the only thing they have going for them is microevolution which is not really evolution its a slight variation which we need in order to survive but it never produced a totally different species now did it the bacteria and fruit flies are still fruit flies and bacteria nothing new. So really there is no evidence at all just speculation. But yet they claim theres mountains of evidence and call itfact

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko So in that case it cant even be called a theory if a scientific theory is evidence. So really in nature it is not even science

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 So , how much of astronomy has been tested in a lab ? Do you believe astronomy ? And you want to observe in a lab in 5 minutes , how a tiger changes into a cat, a proces that takes millions of years ? How silly !!

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko Because in order to get a theory it has to be observed tested and gain results which have never happened according to the real theory of evolution which is one species producing a totally different species

[cjguitarist100]

@ndzoko So you cant get fact out of that you get religion a belief as to what happened and to call that fact what nerve might as well say god is a fact when evolution should not even be considered science just as god theres no proof 

[ndzoko]

@cjguitarist100 when evolution should not even be considered science just as god theres no proof . I have news for you, US courts told the US that evolution is science.. I am glad you accept at least, that there is no evidence for a deity.

[l3ete1geuse]

i can't believe i used to like these two...

[LaymanScholar]

I find it painful to watch these two douchebags verbally masturbate each other.

[ptango101]

"Lightning striking a mud puddle"??? Who says that? Take into account this comes from an idiot who thinks biological evolution has to explain gravity.

[odinata]

Glen Beck likes to bitch and moan about college campuses he's never set foot on.

[jaimesthesaint]

Couldn't even watch it. I was facepalming for the entire duration of the video.

[DemoraX]

i wanna plant a Bot Fly on ben stein's head.

let him try to prove the exsistence of a loving caring god while he has a maggot burrowing through his brain.

"its an answer that would'nt make sense to a small child, its a BS answer"

oh yes because "God did it" is such a clever answer...

[TheMoFauxs]

We did listen to the other side We listened for 3,000+ years! The Religious side never listed to us. Who has ever said in the school, believe evolution or burn for eternity! No one...

[EhdrianEh]

@TheMoFauxs Shame on you to cloud true science with a personal vendetta.  Get over it and start thinking.

[TheMoFauxs]

@TheMoFauxs Its not what i base my life on. I'm just saying the religious do that to us... for thinking. Im not an atheist because they don't listen. I just wanted to say that. Pump the brakes. i'm just venting.

[vohshkab]

Two of the worst people on this planet - vile, lying, evil men spreading ignorance, fear and hatred

[ptango101]

When you hear a statement like "evolution struck a mud puddle and out of that came a fully equipped Boeing 747" you have to think to yourself, this could be a really bad straw man. The most accurate statement that Stein made was "I'm not a scientist, they could be right". If you ID'ist's are so sure you are right why haven't you revolutionised biological science? There is a Nobel prize waiting if you can actually give proof that an intelligence designed it all.

[EhdrianEh]

@ptango101 No straw man. It is an example of complexity and chance. I am still surprised that evolutionists claim they know the origins of life - because there is no evidence for their claims. The burden of proof is on evolutionists, or anyone else with a 'best guess' - until then, everyone can have their own thoughts and questions.

[ptango101]

@EhdrianEh Now you are doing it as well. Evolution isn't origin science. It deals with the area of common decent and genetic modification between existing species. Evolutionary biology doesn't discuss these things. It's a young field of science and no one has a satisfactory answer yet. Beware anybody who says they know the truth about this subject. The hypothesis are compelling though.

[kleenex3000]

@EhdrianEh Evolution is proven FACTUM. The ORIGINS of life were created by an UNKNOWN number of Creators (0,1,100s,1000s...) The G-D of the Scripture is Fiction, proven by multiple circumstancial evidence.

[EhdrianEh]

@kleenex3000 Large changes over long periods of time is NOT fact. This is a hypothesis. There is no argument over adaptation and small changes. BUT evolutionists expect everyone to swallow their own myth and fiction - their rendition of the origin of life. I'm really getting tiered of this "Evolution is fact" bullshit because your expecting me to swallow ALL of it. I do not accept Darwinism, but adaptation is an obvious fact. Grow up a little and look at life with a more mature mind.

[kleenex3000]

@EhdrianEh "shallow...swallow" Whether you like it or not, Earth (and Moon) are 4.44..4.51 BILLION Y old, irrefutably, scientifically DETERMINED (newest data May2010) not "assumed" NUFF time, to make each and every détail of Evolution to happen. Evolution might have been "under the guidance" of an unknown number of Creators (0,1,10s, 100s,1000s...) but Science could not raise PROOF and EVIDENCE that this be an Obligation. ROM-Kath and Luth-Prot church ACCEPT the irrefutable FACTS of Evolution

[EhdrianEh]

@kleenex3000 Wow. What are you accusing me of. I never said the earth wasn't very old. LOL However, if you looked at the evidence, you would know that the 4.5 billion years is not for certain and therefore completely arguable. It seems you old have a high school level of knowedge about these things. Also, your ally (not mine) the Catholic church, does not support your hypothesis anymore. And WHY DO YOU TYPE IN CAPS? You are not worth my time. I have a feeling your a 13yr old.

[kleenex3000]

@EhdrianEh No-where can you retrieve an accusation. I simply provided you with the FACTS that are IRREFUTABLE and that you are yet to accept. Btw. OE in the range of 4 billion Y had already been etablished, before 1956. The subsequent data are now approaching the "true value" asymptotically. Me-thinks that a spanwidth of 70 million years between the (see above) values, creating an incertainty of just 1.5% is already very precise. If you don't believe me that ROM-KATH accept Evo then ask the POPE

[luker4459]

Ben Stein is an absolute discrace. He clearly demonstrates in this interview that he knows very little about the subject he is talking about. Lightning striking a mud puddle? Not much has changed since darwin? You're a moron stein.

[deanosumo]

"I don't understand it, therefore God did it."

That is 'Intelligent' (lol) design.

[MyMomSaysSo]

you don't rate a response for his idiocy, just your own. but i'm preachin' to the quire, huh... lol

[Homoloquenslibidinus]

did ben stein just call out beck for being a Poe? methinks he just did...and that's one of the worst things about old glenny-boy: he'd say anything for a buck. he's just exploiting a niche. let's hope the vein of stupid he and his ilk have been mining runs dry soon.

[AztlanPrincess]

Nazis ruled through fascism.

Muslims rule through fascism.

Nazis conducted a genocidal campaign against the Jews.

Muslims ARE conducting a genocidal campaign against the Jews.

Nazis DIDN'T want to exterminate all non-Nazis.

Muslims DO want to exterminate all non-Muslims.

Most Nazis were normal people who went to work each day and loved their children.

Most Muslims are normal people who go to work each day and love their children.

The Koran is a FASCIST MANIFESTO OF RACISM AND GENOCIDE!

[roddy35wv]

Atheists say they serve no Gods.Satanists say the same thing...so what's the difference in those two ideologies? Resource:Anton Lavey's Satanic Bible

[1billion1deaths1]

IM GONNA GO BUY THIS BOOK.

[nemirn]

2:20

Ben Stieien makes an EXCELLENT point about Darwin.

Darinwin was sooooooo stupid, he thought that cells were made of jelly !!! HAHAHA what stupid scientists.

Jesus and Moeses were much smarter. THey had a perfect clear idea of what cells are made of.

BTW, I am a Chsrisitiain and my cells aren't made of jelly or stupid DNA.

They are made of intelligent dezine!!!

[nemirn]

Excellent video!!!

As a Christian, I speak for all believers when I say I am tired of science trying to tell Americans what is true.

LISTEN UP, AND WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

The new atheists are nazis who DENY the truth that the universe was willed into existence by jesus christ, our lord and savior.

Darwin = Hitler

This is the mainstream christian idea, and if you don't agree, then you are an atheist socialist faggot.

[ndrthrdr1]

@nemirn Your comment shows how gullible religiotards are. You're converting xtians to atheism. Keep those comments coming!

[momsurroundedbyboys]

Ben should stick to politics because he's no scientist.

[jonThedrummerify]

wait, the answer to how life started has to make sense to a small child? really?

[CuslidgeC]

Without context. Higherpower101 says thats you are pointing out incoherencies but just lets them preach.

[BizaroMustard100]

Well it should depend on what you’re doing. If you are teaching biology then that’s one thing. But why would anyone care if you’re doing something else?

[robvlob]

The Wright brothers said nothing about how compressibility effects flight, the Wright brothers said nothing about drag coefficient, The Wright brother said nothing about coaxial and centrifugal engines.

Columbus said nothing about the Grand canyon, Columbus said nothing about the rocky mountains, Columbus said nothing about the great plains.

Isn't it strange how little people know in any particular fields infancy?

[sethecx]

evolution talks about how life EVOLVED.. we cant be sure of how it FIRST began.. and evolutionists dont claim to know.

damn idiot creationists.

[MyMomSaysSo]

These two gasbags don't know anything about how natural selection works. Really embarrassing ignorance.

[iRad11]

@MyMomSaysSo look up dmt

[pinatamarket]

@MyMomSaysSo ITS EASY TO PREACH TO THE QUIRE ON YOU TUBE BUDDY BUT TELL ME WHAT DOES BEN STAIN SAY THAT IS INCORRECT.

[MyMomSaysSo]

@pinatamarket Quire? Quire??? I've preached to a choir, but never a quire. You probably don't even know what "quire" means, because you're an uneducated dullard. Enough with you, goodbye loser.

[pinatamarket]

@MyMomSaysSo hahaha typical simpleton, the'll never miss an opportunity to insult some one over a typo when they have nothing intelligent to bring to the table. But my question still remains unanswered! Since this educated man cant answer my legitimate question can anyone else help educate me and the rest us. What did Ben Stein say that was Incorrect?

[MyMomSaysSo]

@pinatamarket joke's on you. typos looj likr thid;  idiots who are not versed in language, usage, grammar, spelling, idioms (all of which connote intelligence) spell choir "quire" ...QED (look it up, einstein)

[pinatamarket]

@MyMomSaysSo HAHAHA read my last post fool. you cant even say one thing he said that is incorrect! keep insulting me but anyone who read our post can plainly see you cant defend yourself . You make claims that you know how natural selection works but cant articulate how Ben Stein is wrong? go run to the "quire" mistake to make yourself feel better kid. if you going to reply and insult me personal all your doing is showing your ignorance in the matter.

[CarloOnU2ube]

@MyMomSaysSo You dont know how natural selection works. Its natural selection, not natural creation.

[earthmania]

this is bull. two ignorant people reinforcing their own ignorant views.

[1billion1deaths1]

@earthmania just shut up and watch it.

[iRad11]

@earthmania look up dmt

[6630mcdo]

@earthmania Ben Stein is brilliant. Man with the highest IQ in the nation (205 IQ) believes in God. Evolution is insanity. We came from a mud puddle? HAHA I laugh EVERY TIME! Mutations ALWAYS produce failure and less information. Genetics disproves evolution.

[AgrivatedKillah]

@6630mcdo I.Q means nothing if you can't apply it.

Albert Einstein had an I.Q of about 50 less than that..and he's done much more for the world than ben stein ever did. Religion is bad...

[1tabligh]

@AgrivatedKillah Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.

[334286]

@6630mcdo Thank God I've found someone who appreciates Ben Stein, a real man with common sense and intelligence not ignorance. He has real American ideals and can take on any atheist who can only resort to name-calling every time.