There's just way more to a Saleen then there is to a Roush. Ive looked at both and ended up taking the Saleen home because it isn't just a kit car that somebody bolted a bunch of parts to. Its a completely different car. Saleens build quality outdoes roush anyday, even if Roush can get a couple tenths of a second more on the track.
BULLSHIT FUCK THIS SHIT!!! SALEEN ALL THE WAY . ROUSHES ARE PIECES OF SHIT like NO JOKE THEY ARE! Saleen is just a better build car. Saleen has the power and the looks.
@Errorbgkn1 all i know is that the saleen's actuall curb wieght is more than the one mentioned because the naturally aspirated one has a curb weight of 3614 lb i hope this helps
I don't understand why someone would spend 20-30K more on one of these when i paid 25K for my bullitt and still get to 0-60 in under 5 seconds, is .3 seconds really worth $20,000 extra dollars?
the variation in performance figures is VERY minimal. figuring driver error these cars are both about evenly matched. they are both high dollar blown 'stangs with altered suspension, brakes, and bodies. all depends what your taste is.
Both cares sick. It is however sad that the Saleen has a tighter suspension, puts down 30 more horsepower, weighs 300 pounds less, cost $10,000.00 more, AND is actually SLOWER than the Roush. I've also heard that Saleen is a pain in the ass to deal with for warranty issues and typically have mechanical issues. Not to talk bad about Saleen, but it is what it is.
A big part of any car competition is the drivers. Plus anyone read the info, they put ROUSH in bold and first, they say Saleen 's counterpart... I think it might be a little bias. Especially the way he talks about the Saleen in the video.
they are over priced cause shit you can buy a vette for the coast of the saleen, but you may be faster but he will have a brand new mustnag where as you'll still have some old GT!
How does a car that is 300 lbs heavier and less torque let the guy "really feel the torque" more than the Saleen. A bunch of thing sin this review don't make any sense. This review is puzzling.
@whytezombie torque band and tire grip make alot in how "powerful" a car is. You can also see that the Roush recorded better 0-60 than the lighter more hp saleen. Probably because of the same reasons.
@whytezombie although i liked both cars you have right of knowing that the actuall curb wieght of the saleen is more than the one mentioned because the naturally aspirated one has a curb weight of 3614 lb i hope this helps
@whytezombie yea this review is kinda retarded. The Saleen makes more power and is lighter. I think the tires are better as well...so how did the Roush win?
What happened to a Mustang being a Mustang? now it's gotta be a Mustang Roush or a Mustang Saleen or even a Mustang GT and all that shit, they even made v6 Mustangs car company's don't know hot to keep shit original anymore.
Mustangs came with 6 cylinders back in the early years....Just because it doesn't have a v8 doesn't mean it isnt a Mustang. A turbo 2.3 can out run most stock 5.0 cars.
huh? dude back then it was the same, the GT350, the GT500, GT500KR, Bullit, GT(fastback), Base model and V6, Boss and the Mach1, only today companies are improving tem for us, as shelby did back then. i get you but, we tend to ignore the olden days when we did te same thing
how about all you guys shut up maybe you guys can only watch tv and read magazines but i have a stage three roush and saleens look like shit... so get over your late night pornos of saleens ... so go buy a roush before you say it doesnt have power.
@spinkicker43 thats not true jack roush didnt sign every single car some have a hand signature on the dash some have a plack on the dash with a signature and then some just have the tag in the door that says it has been converted by roush on such and such day i have a stage 1 roush and it has the tag in the doors
Yeah thats why I personally dont take em serious I ve seen the same care have 5 different 0-60 times, its better you drive the car yourself and make up your mine
this might be a stupid question? but isnt roush, saleen, and shelby all different companies? if so why didnt they have shelby in here? and which of the 3 would you consider the best thinking of all aspects of the car? i always thought shelby was top of the line. i may be wrong lol
That's what I was thinking, but it could be the Roush is heavier because of serious suspension upgrades--Idk. Maybe the driver just plain sucks, these things aren't really the end all.
I'd still rather have the saleen, and if you have a Roush don't think you can beat a saleen. They tested the high end Roush and the lower end Saleen. true the Saleen cost more but a higher end will kill a Roush
427R is NOT the high-end Roush...it is the low-end of the supercharged variants. Thhe Stage 3 is the high end of the small supercharger equipped Roushes, and that would be the the P-51A and B if you want to compare to the Saleen Extreme.
both cars are really good, Roush did copy saleen to a T, but they now make a great car. (Only really difference being Saleen's have CRAZY Race victories, from Lemans 24hr /ALMS GT1 & 2/ manufacturing champions ships up the wazzo etc etc etc. Roush mustangs havent achieved Real track status yet.) Company wise, Roush is alot more accessable, Saleen built mustangs, S7,Vipers,Ford GT's even the camaro concept car in trnzfrmz, so customer support was typically terrible!.
By the Specs. the Saleen should be better, maybe the driver just sucked, but every mustangs that comes off the assembly line is different some stock engines push more, some less.
Thats exactly what i was thinking, but i found a pic of the power band for both, and the Roush's is extremely broad and is said to spin up alot faster.
I was just about to leave a comment about gearing. I think you've nailed this one as I was about to. I was wondering what the differnence in gearing and CPU might be.
yeah if you did it yourself, for the extra 20-30 thousand more you spend,you could get so much more power and suspension upgrades,all it would take is some hard labor time,but the result would be worth it.
lol. The Ford GT shits all over the Z06. Then if you wanna bring the ZR-1 into this. The Ford GT has a cousin called Saleen S7 twin turbo, that can easily handle a ZR-1. Then if you want to mention the lingenfelter corvette, just dont forget about the supercharged/twin turboed 1500hp Ford GT.
again you dumbasses are bringing up tuned up cars not from factory who the fuck said anything about the Lingenfelter....and for you to bring up the saleen LOL that was lame since its not ford..for real get your shit straight then say something
You are the one that brought up lingenfelter in one of your past comments. Dont get mad at me just because there is GT out there with 1500hp that shits all over it. lol
Z06? Yeah, that's a comparison... Why not have Dan Millen build a stock mustang and spend the 73k that you would on a Z06. Not only would the mustang shit on it in a straight line, it wouldn't be a wag your dick corvette made by government motors.
I mean seriously, why compare a mustang to a corvette? A mustang is a pony car, THE pony car, the car in which started a trend that they have continued since the 60's. Why not compare the Camaro? Here, Ford GT enough said.
FORD boy please...........ZR1 FTW!!! stock vs stock dude not bolt-ons or whatever the fuck you want to say okay base corvette beats both these cars anyway LOL....
Base Corvette does own both these cars look it up...........why do I waste my time cause obviously your the dumb ass you keep bringing up tuned cars like always dipshit ford GT TT that's not a factory car ZR1 is. If that was the case I would of said Corvette Lingenfelter 0-60 in 1.8! look it up first idiot then comment ,,!,,
hahaha the new camaro still hit a faster ET than the GT. dumbass. ok now this is when you go out and bring in one of S/C mustangs that cant even outrun N/A camaro. and i love how you bring in the TT GT. because its funny how when we finally put F/I on one of out cars.you have to bring up a ford car with 2 poweradders. and plus the GT was designed in Europe.
The Supercharger is part of the car when it leaves the factory and the ZR1 has a supercharger on it to and the 2010 GT500 owns the 2010 Camaro SS, The Supersnake owns the ZR1 end of story.
but a supersnake is a least 15-20 grand more that a ZR1 CORVETTE. and no the ZR1 and 750 supersnake both run a 10.8 stock. and there you go talkiing about the gt500 with 114hp more and only hits 12.5's while the SS runs 12.9's. so no these gt500s are not impressive for the price they sell at. hell the gt500kr cost 10 grand more than a Z06 and the Z06 wins every time. plus the supersnake comes with a kenne bell. the ZR1 comes with a mild eaton. so if the ZR1 came with a kenne bell. ITS GAME OVER!
the zr1 is 120,000 the supersnake is 80,000. and the gt500 has been known to hit 12.4 and even with a s/c and a bunch of other upgrades the camaro barely won
i was talking about the top of the line supersnake. the 500gt is somewhere in the 40k range. the gt500kr is is 86 grand. the 750 supersnake cost more than the ZR1. you just got your mustangs mixed up.
you know there is 2 supersnake packages. gt500 was already going for 50+ grand. so if you add the top of line supersnake package your paying the same price. wow ford must be very giving. you can look up the gt500kr vs Z06. the times are BS but the prices are accurate. the gt500kr is 10 grand over the Z06 which sells at 76k. so add the supersnake package and your no where near 50k. where the hell did you get 50k from.
wait a minute youre talking about the 2005-2009's im talking about the 2010 oh well in that case a base gt500 now is like 40,000 exactly and the supersnake is around 80 they dont make those new anymore
ZR1 vette is $106K base price, Super snake is just under $80K. and i would hope a car that is lighter and has more displacement than another car with the same S/C that the lighter, higher displacement car would win. Common sense, its not braggin rights for the vette. cant compare 5.4L to 6.2L mod for mod.
i know that the ZR1 base is 106k but its 80k for the 540hp version its around 20 grand more than the ZR1 for the kenne bell 750hp snake. but due to how heavy it is it hits the same ET as the ZR1.
"If you're still interested, the price for the 630 horsepower package is $29,495 while the 725 horsepower package is $33,495 including installation." Thats on top of the GT500 package for 2010 models. So yes, the Super Snake 725hp model is a little over $80K. Trust me man, ive been doin my research on these
"Customers interested in bringing their 2010 Ford Shelby GT500 to one of the Shelby Mod Shops for transformation should contact Roger Sorel with Shelby Automobiles at (702) 942-7325. The price of the 630 HP package is $29,495 and the 725 HP package is $33,495 including installation but not the car."
sorry bro, but....Once you buy a stock Shelby GT500 ($40.930 if the dealer sticks with the official price-list) youll need to extract another $28.000 off your bank account for the Super Snake package. Thats a total of $68.930 in the best case scenario that you pay $40.930 for the GT500. Haha im tellin ya man, there is no $120,000 mustang from shelby. The most expensive mustang is the drag race package from shelby and thats roughly $90,000
when then the websites that i have read are giving bogus prices because they said it was 86 grand for 540hp package. o well. no matter what they are still to expensive for the ET's they hit. well thats my opinion. and the ZR1 is more of a status car to match up with the SRT10 and GT. its just to show you they have money. i see the Z06 as more of GM's top of the line racer. and why did ford stop making the GT? was it because they didnt sell alot or was it to expensive to make?
no i found the mustang i was talking about. the Prudhomme Edition mustang was the one that cost a hell of a lot more than a ZR1. but it is ugly as hell.
sh1yne the ford gt is is not all american trany is from briten wheels from germany body from lotus the list goes on and on zo6 is all american power and handaling
Show me any of this "proof" I have spent time trying to find any proof the body was from lotus, and the tranny is from "britain" not briten. We are talking about a Ford GT here, not a GT40.
Sure a fucking z06 is a great car, but why would any of you retards be comparing it with a MUSTANG? You already have a pos pony car to compare it to in the Camaro.
Here's a comparison for you who can't get it through your head.
looking only at the prices it seems like saleen used a lot more expensive materials making it a more pure race car in terms of technology. I'm thinking along the lines of a lot of dry carbon and fiberglass. For instance seibon has an aftermarket set of doors and trunk for the mustang. The doors weigh under 10.4 lbs a piece, that's just the panel though without window, motors..etc. but still a big drop in weight. And a bunch of aftermarket fiberglass panels drops good weight too.
Dude finally someone that knows what they are talking about. Yea I forgot they are 302's now. the s302 E i believe is the top. I think saleen made a few other more powerful ones like a saleen red stripe and platinum edition but only around 10 were made. If im wrong please someone correct me.
Porsche 911 turbo would get smoked by both of these, they come with 400 at the flywheel, and lighter-NO 3572lbs, roush was what 3600?! Your an idiot-maybe you should look at what your typing!! Since you brought up the pussy ass skyline, you forced e to bring up the best car of all time, the all mighty S7!! Bring it with anything chump boy, i would wax that ass in anything you brought out to the drags, to the road course, to whatever venue you lil rice burners and all U would see is my smoke punk
you never drove a porsche before both of these cars will get smoked by porsche 911 turbo dont you remember that american cars cant turn corners like euro cars
Your an idiot, i drive a mustang that would corner your faggot ass in any lil euro trash box you wnat to bring!! Camaro, REALLY?! You must be smokin crack, or sniffin but crack cause camaros are heavy as fuck!! I'll smoke that punk ass any day of the week you idiotic butthole bandit!!
oh is that why mustangs murder m3s, porches and 350z's at koni challenges. how about FIA GT4? funniest part is they can do it without a fancy awd or irs; but an old ancient solid rear axle. funny huh?
Although I am a mustang lover, and know first hand, they're all not shitty handlers (I used to push WRXs in my kenny brown cobra ... and blow by them in the straights) but Scott is right to a degree. Out of the box, their price range is within reach of alot more advanced machines. This is the reason why Saleen has gone out of business, and refuses to offer any warranty on any remaining cars.
I wasn't aware of that. I just bought a Stage 2 Roush2006. Which had the stage three package on it, but couldnt bare the stage 3 emblems, because there was no such thing in s197s until 07. Anyway, I love it. It still feels like it came from a racing company. The Saleen I drove, I felt like it was a BMW. They engineered to much edge out. Thanks for the info.
he didnt buy saleen inc he is just doing the warranty work for saleen inc sms supercars is his new company the old company was bought buy MJ Acquisitions Inc
Porsche turbo What? Not a 911. If so, please tell me where you are buying your cars. All the cars you mentioned are good, but the new stang is in large part a fasion statement Ford used to win back customers. Yeah they are too heavy, but if you know how to work on them, good American cars can do a lot. If you think nothing beats your imports, go to Detroit and race someone's camaro or stingray who knows what their doing.
It's all in how the parts work together. It's some combination of the weight distribution, brake balance, and drivetrain that puts the right amount of power where it's needed at the right time. The quality of engineering gives the car that edge.
There's just way more to a Saleen then there is to a Roush. Ive looked at both and ended up taking the Saleen home because it isn't just a kit car that somebody bolted a bunch of parts to. Its a completely different car. Saleens build quality outdoes roush anyday, even if Roush can get a couple tenths of a second more on the track.
dakoz26 2 weeks ago
I got a 427r with vmp 500hp kit longtubes/port polish heads and cams. 510 at tires with only 8 pounds of boost!!!.
Rapinator126 2 months ago
If by glue factory, you mean my home, send it on over!
TopShot3006 4 months ago
You can't see the freaking video
benzode4 5 months ago
This video's a lemon.
AonGuardian 6 months ago
fuck your life cunt!
andres1000ish 6 months ago
Roush
Flatline6363 7 months ago
spam this shit
mr010tommy010 8 months ago
good video quality i can see so good i like it when its scrunched in cool
cuntofduty69 9 months ago
WHOS VAGINA FILMED THIS?!
ckboy221 9 months ago
was this filmed with a potato?
25Celtics 11 months ago
Roush cars are underrated, dyno them and you will see they produce more power then advertised
Laidoutbug 11 months ago
Roush all day baby
Laidoutbug 11 months ago
Roush is simply the best!
StyleEngineers 1 year ago
2010 roush stage 3 for the win!!! 540 hp and 500 lb ft torque :)
cstritz 1 year ago
BULLSHIT FUCK THIS SHIT!!! SALEEN ALL THE WAY . ROUSHES ARE PIECES OF SHIT like NO JOKE THEY ARE! Saleen is just a better build car. Saleen has the power and the looks.
alvrez17 1 year ago
THE SALEEN WAS PLAYING AROUND
bogen404 1 year ago
WTF? The roush has less power and torque, and weighs a couple HUNDRED pounds more. How does it beat the Saleen in a straight line?
BaldwinGTi 1 year ago
that was bulll
TheZackcooper 1 year ago
126,000 views on a squishy video lol
vickfan24707 1 year ago
FIX THIS VIDEO
AustinMahler 1 year ago
Saleen FTW!!!
mitch9521 1 year ago
why is the video all fucked up
monkeyboy8me 1 year ago
Saleen all the way.
LuNaTeCh66 1 year ago
what the heck happened to the video? its squished in the middle and you cant even see anything
vanquishman 1 year ago 25
The Saleen is a better looking car...to me.
thecrow2929 1 year ago
@thecrow2929 It really is. And it is a better made car.
LuNaTeCh66 1 year ago
How does the Roush pull more G's on the track, but less on the slalom? Driver error? And if so, this surely isn't an "end-all" test.
waffenmacht 1 year ago
how can the saleen be slower in a straigt line tha the rouch when it's 300 lb lighter and more powerfull
Errorbgkn1 1 year ago
@Errorbgkn1 One word...suspension.
waffenmacht 1 year ago
@waffenmacht plz read my reply on Errorbgkn1's comment i got the curb wieght from motortrend
omar199x 1 year ago
@Errorbgkn1 all i know is that the saleen's actuall curb wieght is more than the one mentioned because the naturally aspirated one has a curb weight of 3614 lb i hope this helps
omar199x 1 year ago
@Errorbgkn1 Roush underestimates the horsepower of their cars...put the roush on a dyno and it'll do much more than 435hp
blackymcblackface 1 year ago
I don't understand why someone would spend 20-30K more on one of these when i paid 25K for my bullitt and still get to 0-60 in under 5 seconds, is .3 seconds really worth $20,000 extra dollars?
nsspartan77 1 year ago
@nsspartan77 Its not just that, the saleens suspension would out do your bullitt easy. The saleen is a very good car.
LuNaTeCh66 1 year ago
@LuNaTeCh66 i'll still take my bullitt, gt500 suspension and half the price
nsspartan77 1 year ago
Can somebody name the songs in this clip??
mattmatt131313 1 year ago
its all about the roushcharger baby
paladain55 1 year ago
they spend more time on video editing than reviewing these two monsters correctly
Jkillah29 1 year ago
fuk that if you compared the saleen s302 extreme to the 427 no contest the saleen would win they compared the s281 to the 427 r thats bs
jorgeojeda 1 year ago
the variation in performance figures is VERY minimal. figuring driver error these cars are both about evenly matched. they are both high dollar blown 'stangs with altered suspension, brakes, and bodies. all depends what your taste is.
SpetsnazWarrior 1 year ago
Both cares sick. It is however sad that the Saleen has a tighter suspension, puts down 30 more horsepower, weighs 300 pounds less, cost $10,000.00 more, AND is actually SLOWER than the Roush. I've also heard that Saleen is a pain in the ass to deal with for warranty issues and typically have mechanical issues. Not to talk bad about Saleen, but it is what it is.
websslinger 1 year ago
so ein scheiss saleen hat mehr leistung wiegt weniger und soll schlecher sein als ein scheiss roush?
pablosabdulos 1 year ago
A big part of any car competition is the drivers. Plus anyone read the info, they put ROUSH in bold and first, they say Saleen 's counterpart... I think it might be a little bias. Especially the way he talks about the Saleen in the video.
1008668006 1 year ago
WOO roush
mattballinger2010 2 years ago
when i think about mustang, I personally think about shelby...jmho
ADEMILY87 2 years ago
they are over priced cause shit you can buy a vette for the coast of the saleen, but you may be faster but he will have a brand new mustnag where as you'll still have some old GT!
98montecarloz34 2 years ago
saleen twin turbooooooooooooooooooooooo
MEANSALEENTT 2 years ago
How does a car that is 300 lbs heavier and less torque let the guy "really feel the torque" more than the Saleen. A bunch of thing sin this review don't make any sense. This review is puzzling.
whytezombie 2 years ago 9
@whytezombie torque band and tire grip make alot in how "powerful" a car is. You can also see that the Roush recorded better 0-60 than the lighter more hp saleen. Probably because of the same reasons.
IDBNVS2 1 year ago
@whytezombie although i liked both cars you have right of knowing that the actuall curb wieght of the saleen is more than the one mentioned because the naturally aspirated one has a curb weight of 3614 lb i hope this helps
omar199x 1 year ago
@whytezombie yea this review is kinda retarded. The Saleen makes more power and is lighter. I think the tires are better as well...so how did the Roush win?
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@beepandbop That's correct. It makes no scene.
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SuShIxGuRl 2 years ago
i would take the roush then invest the 10k dollar difference into it and win anyways..
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WiqutujDagogukur 2 years ago
the roush would lose everytime, if the both had the same rear gearing.
scout8847 2 years ago
What happened to a Mustang being a Mustang? now it's gotta be a Mustang Roush or a Mustang Saleen or even a Mustang GT and all that shit, they even made v6 Mustangs car company's don't know hot to keep shit original anymore.
Delta9son 2 years ago
Mustangs came with 6 cylinders back in the early years....Just because it doesn't have a v8 doesn't mean it isnt a Mustang. A turbo 2.3 can out run most stock 5.0 cars.
x959x 2 years ago
yeah but it needs a turbo, im talking about all motor.
Delta9son 2 years ago
@Delta9son glad your not running ford.you have to adjust ur cars for the market as you see gm didnt and looked what happen!
braddfordy 2 years ago
huh? dude back then it was the same, the GT350, the GT500, GT500KR, Bullit, GT(fastback), Base model and V6, Boss and the Mach1, only today companies are improving tem for us, as shelby did back then. i get you but, we tend to ignore the olden days when we did te same thing
BYCURE213 2 years ago
how about all you guys shut up maybe you guys can only watch tv and read magazines but i have a stage three roush and saleens look like shit... so get over your late night pornos of saleens ... so go buy a roush before you say it doesnt have power.
dan26volcom 2 years ago 2
How about you post a vid of it then?
What year?
And if it is roushe it should have a hand signature on the dash, what does the signature say?
spinkicker43 2 years ago
i have a 2002 and it has a signature that that just says jack roush on the right side of the dash.
dan26volcom 2 years ago
@spinkicker43 thats not true jack roush didnt sign every single car some have a hand signature on the dash some have a plack on the dash with a signature and then some just have the tag in the door that says it has been converted by roush on such and such day i have a stage 1 roush and it has the tag in the doors
jdavis707070 2 years ago
@dan26volcom Late night pornos XD great point XD
tareq8585 1 year ago
oh go fuck urself i still think saleen is better :) and way nicer
hotzone84 2 years ago
Yeah thats why I personally dont take em serious I ve seen the same care have 5 different 0-60 times, its better you drive the car yourself and make up your mine
smood006 2 years ago
these test are shit every magazine tv show gets different numbers
smood006 2 years ago
why do they bother to test braking, no one cares about that.
kirbienstien 2 years ago 2
Hey !! somebody who knows the name of the songs in this video please ?? (specially the first song and the last song)
Thanks !!!
MrSouthernknight 2 years ago
this might be a stupid question? but isnt roush, saleen, and shelby all different companies? if so why didnt they have shelby in here? and which of the 3 would you consider the best thinking of all aspects of the car? i always thought shelby was top of the line. i may be wrong lol
ouchie3 2 years ago
thats bs the saleen is lighter and has more power
xcrunnersrock 2 years ago
That's what I was thinking, but it could be the Roush is heavier because of serious suspension upgrades--Idk. Maybe the driver just plain sucks, these things aren't really the end all.
beepandbop 2 years ago
just because u have more power dosent mean ur car is faster but its a good question cuz the saleen is 300 lbs lighter maybe bad driver
sparkalanio 2 years ago
i did say it was lighter then the roush and has more power both of those factor does make it faster
xcrunnersrock 2 years ago
@xcrunnersrock a roush will always be the better and faster car its a reason why saleen went belly up!
braddfordy 2 years ago
Does anyone know which tires this Roush has??
branden1979 2 years ago
which is faster a roush or a cobra
bnb200 2 years ago
Roush, Also depending on the driver if its Manual And I think all the Roush's are Manual, not sure.
Reavoltion 2 years ago
I'd still rather have the saleen, and if you have a Roush don't think you can beat a saleen. They tested the high end Roush and the lower end Saleen. true the Saleen cost more but a higher end will kill a Roush
geedunk13 2 years ago
FAIL. Roush FTW.
427R is NOT the high-end Roush...it is the low-end of the supercharged variants. Thhe Stage 3 is the high end of the small supercharger equipped Roushes, and that would be the the P-51A and B if you want to compare to the Saleen Extreme.
A P-51 will smoke a Saleen extreme, too.
DiMoraDiamond 2 years ago
CPU/Gearing difference?
wccrispy 2 years ago
both cars are really good, Roush did copy saleen to a T, but they now make a great car. (Only really difference being Saleen's have CRAZY Race victories, from Lemans 24hr /ALMS GT1 & 2/ manufacturing champions ships up the wazzo etc etc etc. Roush mustangs havent achieved Real track status yet.) Company wise, Roush is alot more accessable, Saleen built mustangs, S7,Vipers,Ford GT's even the camaro concept car in trnzfrmz, so customer support was typically terrible!.
xevious2501 2 years ago
By the Specs. the Saleen should be better, maybe the driver just sucked, but every mustangs that comes off the assembly line is different some stock engines push more, some less.
sunaal24s 2 years ago
I don't understand. The Roush has less power,more weight and worse handling. Yet it wins on the track and the drag strip..how?
nevermissclancom 2 years ago 2
i figured the saleen was going to tear it up with more power and less weight
rootpooty 2 years ago
Thats exactly what i was thinking, but i found a pic of the power band for both, and the Roush's is extremely broad and is said to spin up alot faster.
pocketfiend36 2 years ago
it's gearing i think, the standard gear in the s281 is a 3.31 gear but the roush comes with 3.73 gear
gmracing15 2 years ago
I was just about to leave a comment about gearing. I think you've nailed this one as I was about to. I was wondering what the differnence in gearing and CPU might be.
wccrispy 2 years ago
Roush comes with 3.55
DiMoraDiamond 2 years ago
the new roush has 700 horse power
watkinskevan 2 years ago
i dont think so
p8baller92 2 years ago
Do the work yourself and save about $20,000 or better yet send em both to the glue factory.
bonggged 2 years ago
yeah if you did it yourself, for the extra 20-30 thousand more you spend,you could get so much more power and suspension upgrades,all it would take is some hard labor time,but the result would be worth it.
anthonyrocksworldz 2 years ago
fag
hammondsplains 2 years ago
ford doesnt own saleen. there just partners with them. but they could be stock holders.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
Corvette AMERICA"S TRUE SPORT CAR......
tristianchristian123 2 years ago
lol. The Ford GT shits all over the Z06. Then if you wanna bring the ZR-1 into this. The Ford GT has a cousin called Saleen S7 twin turbo, that can easily handle a ZR-1. Then if you want to mention the lingenfelter corvette, just dont forget about the supercharged/twin turboed 1500hp Ford GT.
branden1979 2 years ago
again you dumbasses are bringing up tuned up cars not from factory who the fuck said anything about the Lingenfelter....and for you to bring up the saleen LOL that was lame since its not ford..for real get your shit straight then say something
tristianchristian123 2 years ago
You are the one that brought up lingenfelter in one of your past comments. Dont get mad at me just because there is GT out there with 1500hp that shits all over it. lol
branden1979 2 years ago
There's a 1500 hp Ford GT?
RSNitsua 2 years ago
its twin turboed. i think hennesey makes them
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
ZO6 enough said...
tristianchristian123 2 years ago
Z06? Yeah, that's a comparison... Why not have Dan Millen build a stock mustang and spend the 73k that you would on a Z06. Not only would the mustang shit on it in a straight line, it wouldn't be a wag your dick corvette made by government motors.
I mean seriously, why compare a mustang to a corvette? A mustang is a pony car, THE pony car, the car in which started a trend that they have continued since the 60's. Why not compare the Camaro? Here, Ford GT enough said.
sh1yne 2 years ago
FORD boy please...........ZR1 FTW!!! stock vs stock dude not bolt-ons or whatever the fuck you want to say okay base corvette beats both these cars anyway LOL....
tristianchristian123 2 years ago
Ford GT TT vs Corvette ZR1.
Fair comparison no?
Ford GT TT topped 222mph in the STANDING MILE.
Also, I'd like to see a base corvette beat both of these tuned mustangs.
Thank you for being a dumb shit idiot, comparing corvettes to mustangs.
Is it because mustangs shit on the new camaro?
sh1yne 2 years ago
Base Corvette does own both these cars look it up...........why do I waste my time cause obviously your the dumb ass you keep bringing up tuned cars like always dipshit ford GT TT that's not a factory car ZR1 is. If that was the case I would of said Corvette Lingenfelter 0-60 in 1.8! look it up first idiot then comment ,,!,,
tristianchristian123 2 years ago
Look up what, then comment?
Ford GT = Shits on Corvette
Corvette = Shits on Mustang
Mustang = Shits on Camaro
'nuff said
sh1yne 2 years ago 2
hahaha the new camaro still hit a faster ET than the GT. dumbass. ok now this is when you go out and bring in one of S/C mustangs that cant even outrun N/A camaro. and i love how you bring in the TT GT. because its funny how when we finally put F/I on one of out cars.you have to bring up a ford car with 2 poweradders. and plus the GT was designed in Europe.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
The Supercharger is part of the car when it leaves the factory and the ZR1 has a supercharger on it to and the 2010 GT500 owns the 2010 Camaro SS, The Supersnake owns the ZR1 end of story.
RSNitsua 2 years ago
but a supersnake is a least 15-20 grand more that a ZR1 CORVETTE. and no the ZR1 and 750 supersnake both run a 10.8 stock. and there you go talkiing about the gt500 with 114hp more and only hits 12.5's while the SS runs 12.9's. so no these gt500s are not impressive for the price they sell at. hell the gt500kr cost 10 grand more than a Z06 and the Z06 wins every time. plus the supersnake comes with a kenne bell. the ZR1 comes with a mild eaton. so if the ZR1 came with a kenne bell. ITS GAME OVER!
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
the zr1 is 120,000 the supersnake is 80,000. and the gt500 has been known to hit 12.4 and even with a s/c and a bunch of other upgrades the camaro barely won
262Blazer 2 years ago
i was talking about the top of the line supersnake. the 500gt is somewhere in the 40k range. the gt500kr is is 86 grand. the 750 supersnake cost more than the ZR1. you just got your mustangs mixed up.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
no it doesnt genius look it up the aupersnake is not more than the zr1 it never has been
262Blazer 2 years ago
no the supersnake is a 27,000 dollar package in top of the reg gt500's price which is around 50,000. you dont have it mixed up you just dont know
262Blazer 2 years ago
you know there is 2 supersnake packages. gt500 was already going for 50+ grand. so if you add the top of line supersnake package your paying the same price. wow ford must be very giving. you can look up the gt500kr vs Z06. the times are BS but the prices are accurate. the gt500kr is 10 grand over the Z06 which sells at 76k. so add the supersnake package and your no where near 50k. where the hell did you get 50k from.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
wait a minute youre talking about the 2005-2009's im talking about the 2010 oh well in that case a base gt500 now is like 40,000 exactly and the supersnake is around 80 they dont make those new anymore
262Blazer 2 years ago
yea i was talking about the 08's. but they went down in price now.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
her we go ill break it down 2010 gt500 base price 46,xxx
600 hp supersnake 27,000 on base price
750 hp supersnake about 40,000
262Blazer 2 years ago
ZR1 vette is $106K base price, Super snake is just under $80K. and i would hope a car that is lighter and has more displacement than another car with the same S/C that the lighter, higher displacement car would win. Common sense, its not braggin rights for the vette. cant compare 5.4L to 6.2L mod for mod.
Firecat400EX 2 years ago
i know that the ZR1 base is 106k but its 80k for the 540hp version its around 20 grand more than the ZR1 for the kenne bell 750hp snake. but due to how heavy it is it hits the same ET as the ZR1.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
"If you're still interested, the price for the 630 horsepower package is $29,495 while the 725 horsepower package is $33,495 including installation." Thats on top of the GT500 package for 2010 models. So yes, the Super Snake 725hp model is a little over $80K. Trust me man, ive been doin my research on these
Firecat400EX 2 years ago
"Customers interested in bringing their 2010 Ford Shelby GT500 to one of the Shelby Mod Shops for transformation should contact Roger Sorel with Shelby Automobiles at (702) 942-7325. The price of the 630 HP package is $29,495 and the 725 HP package is $33,495 including installation but not the car."
Firecat400EX 2 years ago
OOOOO. i was talking about 2008 models. ok yea i get where your coming from.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
sorry bro, but....Once you buy a stock Shelby GT500 ($40.930 if the dealer sticks with the official price-list) youll need to extract another $28.000 off your bank account for the Super Snake package. Thats a total of $68.930 in the best case scenario that you pay $40.930 for the GT500. Haha im tellin ya man, there is no $120,000 mustang from shelby. The most expensive mustang is the drag race package from shelby and thats roughly $90,000
Firecat400EX 2 years ago
oh yeah, thats 2008 specs too on this one. prices went up for 2010, pretty lame!
Firecat400EX 2 years ago
when then the websites that i have read are giving bogus prices because they said it was 86 grand for 540hp package. o well. no matter what they are still to expensive for the ET's they hit. well thats my opinion. and the ZR1 is more of a status car to match up with the SRT10 and GT. its just to show you they have money. i see the Z06 as more of GM's top of the line racer. and why did ford stop making the GT? was it because they didnt sell alot or was it to expensive to make?
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
no i found the mustang i was talking about. the Prudhomme Edition mustang was the one that cost a hell of a lot more than a ZR1. but it is ugly as hell.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
sh1yne the ford gt is is not all american trany is from briten wheels from germany body from lotus the list goes on and on zo6 is all american power and handaling
hayhowrevop90 2 years ago
Show me any of this "proof" I have spent time trying to find any proof the body was from lotus, and the tranny is from "britain" not briten. We are talking about a Ford GT here, not a GT40.
Sure a fucking z06 is a great car, but why would any of you retards be comparing it with a MUSTANG? You already have a pos pony car to compare it to in the Camaro.
Here's a comparison for you who can't get it through your head.
Ford GT500 vs Camaro SS.
What wins there?
sh1yne 2 years ago
Just a get a base Corvette enough said....if you want more speed for your buck
tristianchristian123 2 years ago
this guy kinda looks like jeff gordon
nforspeed91 2 years ago
i think they should of chose the s281 extreme coupe then the roush would get smoked. both are beautiful cars id take any one.
mitch9521 2 years ago
hate to admitt it but its true bro!
daj301 2 years ago
na dude the saleen extreme is fast but the s281 isnt that fast
challengersrtman 2 years ago
slow vs slower
challengersrtman 2 years ago
The mustang is faster than both the charger and the challenger and also lighter just incase u didn't know
NickFATTYITH 2 years ago
Is the music at 7:33 Queens of the Stone age?
And how did Saleen end up with such a lighter car?
ShortySIG552 2 years ago
looking only at the prices it seems like saleen used a lot more expensive materials making it a more pure race car in terms of technology. I'm thinking along the lines of a lot of dry carbon and fiberglass. For instance seibon has an aftermarket set of doors and trunk for the mustang. The doors weigh under 10.4 lbs a piece, that's just the panel though without window, motors..etc. but still a big drop in weight. And a bunch of aftermarket fiberglass panels drops good weight too.
dark20011 2 years ago
yea but since top gear is english they wouldnt give that good of a review you know
it would end up a little biased
rickg156 2 years ago
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35yearoldboy 2 years ago
if your going to race the top roush, then it should race the top saleen. S281 E! Saleen ftw
Libblelabble 2 years ago
isnt the s302 the top sallen???
jaydog5120 2 years ago
Dude finally someone that knows what they are talking about. Yea I forgot they are 302's now. the s302 E i believe is the top. I think saleen made a few other more powerful ones like a saleen red stripe and platinum edition but only around 10 were made. If im wrong please someone correct me.
Libblelabble 2 years ago
yea you are right but they werent doing top for top if they were it would have been s302e vs roush p51
princeyear2k8 2 years ago
Porsche 911 turbo would get smoked by both of these, they come with 400 at the flywheel, and lighter-NO 3572lbs, roush was what 3600?! Your an idiot-maybe you should look at what your typing!! Since you brought up the pussy ass skyline, you forced e to bring up the best car of all time, the all mighty S7!! Bring it with anything chump boy, i would wax that ass in anything you brought out to the drags, to the road course, to whatever venue you lil rice burners and all U would see is my smoke punk
Saleenfanning 2 years ago
Aerial Atom would merk it :P
Clamfather24 2 years ago
you never drove a porsche before both of these cars will get smoked by porsche 911 turbo dont you remember that american cars cant turn corners like euro cars
SERKANUSA 2 years ago
Actually i have driven a porsche before and honestly if you have a mustang with a track suspension it WILL beat your lil porsche.
Saleenfanning 2 years ago
maybe on a straight road what you gonna do in the first corner ? let me think hmmm prob span out of control
SERKANUSA 2 years ago
Your an idiot, i drive a mustang that would corner your faggot ass in any lil euro trash box you wnat to bring!! Camaro, REALLY?! You must be smokin crack, or sniffin but crack cause camaros are heavy as fuck!! I'll smoke that punk ass any day of the week you idiotic butthole bandit!!
Saleenfanning 2 years ago
oh is that why mustangs murder m3s, porches and 350z's at koni challenges. how about FIA GT4? funniest part is they can do it without a fancy awd or irs; but an old ancient solid rear axle. funny huh?
racoonpooon 2 years ago
yeah really all the euro and rice suck muscles are the original performance machine
elefantboys 2 years ago
HAHA GRAND PRAIRIE FORD?! thats right next to my work. a 5 minute walk. no wonder i saw that sick roush a bit ago lol. test drivers.
Trippy420Hippy 2 years ago
Best.
Shoot out.
Ever.
wildbloodydragon 2 years ago 2
Although I am a mustang lover, and know first hand, they're all not shitty handlers (I used to push WRXs in my kenny brown cobra ... and blow by them in the straights) but Scott is right to a degree. Out of the box, their price range is within reach of alot more advanced machines. This is the reason why Saleen has gone out of business, and refuses to offer any warranty on any remaining cars.
focal69 2 years ago
Keep in mind though that SMS which is owned by the "real" Steve Saleen, bought Saleen back, his original company.
SMS which is Steve's company is doing fine.
beepandbop 2 years ago
I wasn't aware of that. I just bought a Stage 2 Roush2006. Which had the stage three package on it, but couldnt bare the stage 3 emblems, because there was no such thing in s197s until 07. Anyway, I love it. It still feels like it came from a racing company. The Saleen I drove, I felt like it was a BMW. They engineered to much edge out. Thanks for the info.
focal69 2 years ago
I think that's sort of what the reviewer was talking about: The Saleen was more like a "professional" Mustang.
Personally, I'd like both to have IRS. And some BMWs are quite edgy, you just have to push them, which is why they're so acclaimed. :P
beepandbop 2 years ago
he didnt buy saleen inc he is just doing the warranty work for saleen inc sms supercars is his new company the old company was bought buy MJ Acquisitions Inc
braddfordy 2 years ago
Porsche turbo What? Not a 911. If so, please tell me where you are buying your cars. All the cars you mentioned are good, but the new stang is in large part a fasion statement Ford used to win back customers. Yeah they are too heavy, but if you know how to work on them, good American cars can do a lot. If you think nothing beats your imports, go to Detroit and race someone's camaro or stingray who knows what their doing.
ShotokanTanto 2 years ago 2
this is muscle... not easy to break import.
generationkid 2 years ago
i hell yeah bitches roush baby
o and anyone know what that last song was called??
SNOWMANINURFACE 3 years ago
some people might like the collecting part, but you'd need lots of money
Jay12341235 3 years ago
I love the roush..but can somebody explain why the saleen isnt faster..? more horsepower, torque and its lighter.???
droppinadeuce11 3 years ago 2
because the saleen have a supercharger (more HP)
betin17 3 years ago
It's all in how the parts work together. It's some combination of the weight distribution, brake balance, and drivetrain that puts the right amount of power where it's needed at the right time. The quality of engineering gives the car that edge.
ShotokanTanto 2 years ago
So suprising considering valvoline sponsers roush. I'm sure it's not biased/rigged at all (end sarcasm)
stutgartman629 3 years ago