@fuzzytangent There is no such thing as a British accent. He's English. I am also English, and I think he is arrogant. And I'm not a religious person (I'm not a self-described atheist either). I did catch his video about Sharia law and Theo Van Gogh and thought he was being pretty dodgy with it.
Thunderfoot. You dont have to say "that should be moderatly interesting." You can just say "that should be interesting." You can use few words from time to time. Don't try and church up every opinion. Just be real.
@fuzzytangent My point is that there is no reason to go around saying a thing moderately piques an interest. It comes across as smug. As if there are so many things in one’s life that pique interest that this thing is just a little bit interesting and not a lot. It’s smug.
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I tend to believe Thunderfoot over the creationist based on the size of his telescope. I'm sure if God was out there Thunderfoot would of run into him a few times
THAT TELESCOPE IS FUCKING AMAZING. Is it for astro-photography purposes thunderf00t? I ask because while searching for one to buy, telescopes with this much aperture were mostly for space photography.
@Anima10pontonet Yes we all know now these day came about. It is not some deep dark secret it a matter of history. When the Roman converted to Christianity they have these feast days so they moved them from pagan worship to a Christan event like the birth of Christ. They did not have any dates for the events so one day was as good at another. So what is your point?
@Anima10pontonet Well sure they are sacred that is the day you celebrate Gods birth. Unless you are in communication with JC himself.. December 25 will have to do.
@yeudh Oh sure they are sacred but you can just pick around the day according to convenience. Or what convinces more people who believes in other gods that yours is the best. Fuck yes, sacred things.
belief ... funny thing i thought science was based on observation and what we can perceive within our means... from there we piece more of the puzzle of biological purpose... the other side just accept stories... well it aint good enough... I want to KNOW not believe for the sake of social pressure or majority voting of something
1 no one can prove unreal stories
2 Believe something that has no real substance
3 Is based on OPINIONS of those with little understanding of their own environment
Read Vox Days' "The Irrational Atheist" and Wired Magazines observation that atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged people with unpleasant personalities such as Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, one could reasonably hypothesize that there is likely to be a strong correlation between Aspergers and atheism. Aspergers Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder on the autism spectrum (some even claim it is merely Autism)
@moonlightbateman You're confusing a theological point of view with a brain deficiency. A physical characteristic of the body with a system of thinking. That's like saying that all circumcised people must be Jewish. There's just as much a chance of anyone with an ASD to be any type of religion or thinker. Not just aethist. Your argument states that either all atheists are autistic (which they are not) and that all autistic people are atheists.
@moonlightbateman What, socially 'unpleasant' because they don't go to church? How exactly is Dawkins 'unpleasant'? Because he can't stand people making unfounded claims then telling everyone to believe them and act according to them?
@JaytheOstrich Read Vox Days' "The Irrational Atheist" and Wired Magazines observation that atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged people with unpleasant personalities such as Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, one could reasonably hypothesize that there is likely to be a strong correlation between Aspergers and atheism. Aspergers Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder on the autism spectrum (some even claim it is merely Autism)
@moonlightbateman Wow. So you can suddenly make case of a wide group through a small (under 10) sample group? Based on what, a book written by a Christian? Gee, there couldn't possibly be a bias there could there.
@moonlightbateman Who said anything about 'argumentative'? The post I replied to was about them being 'unpleasant'. And what does 'argumentative' have to do with Asperger's Syndrome?
dude buy plane tickets and fly there mate its easier haha like the work your doing keep it up from all the psychology students in w.i.t here in ireland
You havent looked at the face of death because death concerns the whole and not just a part of the whole, everything you think you know and everything you dont know understanding that every person lives in their own complex or simple world. For instance a government that gets kids to kill women and children in other countries and yet pray to Jesus who says dont kill. Exactly what DO YOU think of the imaturity and lack of intelligence of people who run the world?Saving Humanityistotinkindergarten
Thunderfoot is not Evil he can be saved. He is at least willing to come out and debate not hide from people like I've seen other Evolutionists do. He seems to be purposely deceitful sometimes though.
@JamesRideout123 - you, sir, are a fool. Evolutionists (a term coined by nut bags such as yourself) are not hiding-we are in plain sight, all around you, infact you are increasingly outnumbered with every passing year. Add up all the religions, now the people who are religious, now only keep the ones that actually believe in a creationist origin of life, universe and everything, now compare what you've got left, with the people who believe in evolution...zing! Save yourself, we don't need saving
@March6371 The real term is "Evotard" a term based on the fact that there is NO evidence for evolution; this idea that humans evolved from fish over some immense time and by some magical bullshit. There is no magical bullshit in real science. If you have any absolutely irrefutable evidence for evolution that is not based on faith and belief, then show it to us. I have seen all of it and nothing supports evolution.
So ray didnt want the opportunity to do this (save the lost?) for thousands of dollars, and YOU had to do all the travelling?
Hes not a Christian and you blew his arguments out the window.
1 TIM 4:9-11 :- THIS is a TRUSTWORTHY saying that deserves FULL acceptance (and for this we work and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who IS the Savior of ALL men, and especially of those who believe. COMMAND AND TEACH THESE THINGS.
@AronRaHAHAHA :D, congratulations, you just got nailed.
anyway, stick to the blatant denial in the future. it's all you can really do.
so do you want me to start on how the Bible makes little sense and has never predicted anything? you might (prolly not) have better luck in that area.
With all the nonsensical literature in the bible you can basically read into it anyway you want, if you add shit like "read between the lines" & "personal interpretation" into it you can make anything from anything
@AronRaHAHAHA "Do I have to hand you over to satan for teaching?"
so you work for Satan? well he seems nicer the Yahweh but shit Andy I thought you where on the Christian side not the satanic version of your silly mythology. well good luck handing ppl over to your dark load. and tell ill see him in hell, *wink wink*
@AronRaHAHAHA well it's there too read I don't think I need to type it again.
I got the impression you where ready to hand some1 over to "Satan". I mean I can see why, Satan dose not have a book dedicated to mass murder, rape, torture, incest, bestiality and senseless killing that ppl follow for no other reason then the fear of hell... wait... now I'm confused who's the bad guy in this scenario?
I know god tried to fix it by killing some more ppl, including himself.. but arrr that made sense :)
@Carnage2K4 on that note where do Hebrew-christens get there mortality from? with all the sadomasochistic psychosis in the 1st testament, I'm surprised they know anything... well maybe it was because they needed to social interaction to be pleasant both ways... hmm now that sounds like an evolutionary answer... maybe the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was making you think your worshipping god, while god was banished to hell... huh, interesting :)
@Carnage2K4 Whats a Hebrew christen? Do you mean christian? All morality is God given, why does the swallow bird know how to build it's nest? how does a joey (baby kangaroo) know how to crawl up to it's mothers pouch?
God's morals have been branded on our heart, you know when you have done wrong, your conscience pricks you!
The fact we are alive can only be attributed to one thing, and it's not a chance happening, we got here via intelligence, look around, you will see order, all is order..
I think you a little confused again, with "morals" this time. yeah nature cares little for moral conduct... they do those things for a good reason, also explained in great detail by evolution. like I said, you can make what you want from bible scripture. funny how the 2nd coming is currently 1000 years late... but they must have been a bit off that day huh?
@Carnage2K4 The human race is in for some dire times in the coming years, (ref: Matthew 24 & Luke 21)
There you will see human and world history written in advance, also read the book of Isaiah & Revelation, it's a hard book to understand, not to be taken literally as most of it is analogies. (a type of, similar)
@AronRaHAHAHA yeah been waiting for Armageddon for a while now, hows that coming anyway? 2012 is the new date is it? any idea the date after that, I want to be ready? I want to have a good stockpile of marshmallow to cook when it kicks off.
@Carnage2K4 Job was handed over to satan, in 1st Timothy paul the apostle handed Hymenaeus and Alexander over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
We believers if we are a serious about our faith, and I am, have also this power at our disposal.
This world is at present being handed over to satan, the whole human race is unfortunately wicked, selfish, deceitful, sex mad, money hungry, a drug culture, and worst of all, disbelieving.
@AronRaHAHAHA No, you can "teach" me if I am willing to ignore reality.
All creation proclaims the wonder of creation. All of it. That includes the rocks that are over a BILLION years old, sta light reaching us from a billion years ago and the miracle of biodiversity seen everywhere on this planet.
Saying God did it all, is a philosophical and theological point most 'evolutionists' have no problem with.
Saying a rock over a BILLION years old is actually less than 6000, there is the rub.
@Leonid3s All the dating methods rely on presupposed ideas.
Carbon dating relies on the amount of carbon in an object, and dated from that, this is inaccurate as the amount of carbon in the atmosphere has not always been a constant, nuclear tests increase the amount of carbon in the atmosphere dramatically.
led 208 led 206 and the rest all rely on presupposed ideas which are not factual, you can falsify the dates to make it what ever you wanted it to be,..
@AronRaHAHAHA Good God! (no pun intended) Did you have to study to be this ignorant?
Carbon dating relies on the PERCENTAGE of Carbon14 in the atmosphere at the time the organism lived. The organism incorporates the C14 into itself as long as it lives at the SAME PERCENTAGE. When the organism dies, it stops adding C14.
Therefore, you can take the percentage of C14 remaining in a formerly living organic item and determine its age.
@AronRaHAHAHA You never did answer my last question. How old do you think the universe is? It is important to the discussion.
Only a young earth creationist has to deny the reality of the radioactive dating techniques. For the old earth creationist and the intelligent design proponents, it is a non-issue, as their 'science' can accomodate an old earth.
@AronRaHAHAHA LED is short for "light emitting diode". Pb is the atomic symbol for lead. LED has never meant LEAD, except in the minds of the extremely ignorant or uneducated.
Which are you? (Dont hurt your mind too much, the two states are not mutually exclusive. You can choose both.)
@AronRaHAHAHA Fascinating how such a 'good, moral, ethical christian' can descend to profanity, especially against someone that has not used it against him.
You cant even claim self-defense.
But this is typical for fanatics when the underpinnings of their delusions are questioned.
Mark 10:18 Jesus speaking "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
I guess there are different depths to goodness, in God's eyes were all sinners and there's no good in us, in man's eyes all is either good or bad, depending on how we are to one another.
I know I'm no good, and I need a saviour, we all do.
@AronRaHAHAHA Each of the verses I cited specifically mentioned a "good man". If no man is good, why would the Bible describe the attributes of a 'good man'?
@Leonid3s It depends what Bible version you looked at.
The New King James is probably as close as we are going to get to the original scriptures.
It's hard to say for sure, Jesus said no man is good, and why call me good.
I know for sure, when I look at what I am supposed to be and what I am, I am not good, I am a hypocrite and fall well short of glory, I am surprised God has the time for any of us let alone me. i am truly ashamed of myself when I think back in my past, I need to do better.
@AronRaHAHAHA I took those from the King James, as I assumed it was what you used. Using a concordance, I checked the verses against the New King James version. Most verses remain the same, including the phrase "good man".
@AronRaHAHAHA You certainly do need to do better. Try reading a real science book and then take a psychology course or two so you can find out what is wrong with you. I would tell you but you wont believe me, you need to find it out for yourself.
@alianchild: Perhaps I could borrow yours when you have finished reading it.
My education is doing just fine, at least I have not been indoctrinated, this is a tactic used by government to align people into the way they want you to think.
Hitler in the 30's & 40's was very successful in doing this..
@AronRaHAHAHA You have been indoctrinated. Into a cult that first tells you that you are worthless, broken, and they are the only ones that can fix you. And yes, Hitler was very successful. Because he used the same tactics that religions do. Have a nice non-delusional day.
Should read, "It would be similar to attempting a conversation on the finer philosophical points of The Divine Comedy in the original Italian with someone who does not understand Italian, ie pointless."
In short, you have no science backing your position. Your position is entirely religious.
All your arguments boil down to a mere two:
1) God made it that way
2) "You can't prove that"
You are right. We can not prove anything to anyone without the background in math and science to understand the proof. It would be similar to attempting a conversation on the finer philosophical points of The Divine Comedy with someone who does not understand Italian, ie pointless.
@Leonid3s Science does not have all the answers, this is why they are trying with the spectron collider to get some kind of answer.
All they will find is how matter is formed by the material present, what I want to know is where did the material come from to make the spectron collider results? In a nut shell, where did the molecules come from in the first instance, I believe it was God made, there's nothing wrong in thinking this way.
@Leonid3s Not all words literally, it depends what parts you are referring to, I don't think all the Bible is meant to be taken literally, but I am still studying it, the Bible is a book that will go on teaching us till the end of time. It's been around for thousands of years, and it will still be here in another thousand years. I believe in the 6 days of creation, I believe Jesus was the Son of God, I believe He died and was raised 3 days later, and I believe He will return perhaps in my life.
@AronRaHAHAHA and it just keeps coming... OMG Andy, no they will not be looking for "how matter is formed by the material present" that is known. it's grade 10 physics/chemistry, there is a myriad of things the LHC will be testing and looking for but that's not 1 of them (that I have heard of). your problem is understanding. you want to know things? well your going to be ready to give up your faith because it's looking like the 2 are incompatible.
@AronRaHAHAHA There is nothing wrong in believing anything you want. Either you are right or wrong. Simple.
But attempting to turn religion into science is wrong. Science can be verified. But it does not deal with "Poof, a miracle occurred". That is the province of religion.
To believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, you have to ignore all the evidence that the earth is much older. That is not faith. That is willful ignorance at best and bearing false witness at worst.
There is also a 'branch' of 'christian scholarship' that believes the future is predicted in the bible. They take the bible and examine it in detail, like a word jumble puzzle, drawing lines through the characters at various angles. 'They' believe WW2, 9/11 and thousands more historical events are predicted by the bible.
Other scholars, attempting to verify the technique, found the same types of 'historical predictions' in Shakespeare and more modern texts.
by that definition gravity is also cannot be physical. as only it's effects can be descried mathematically not the force it self... (currently)... I see what your saying but the fact it's effects can be read, described (un-mathematically) and predicted with good accuracy while being read with MRI as well as the the cause know, is evidence of it's physical nature (be it a fickle one). it can even be "tweaked" with good accuracy in brain operations...
@Carnage2K4 What state was gravity before it's present state?
If gravity did not evolve, then it must have come into existence immediately, so if it did not evolve then it must have been created.
Think deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
Talk later, I must get some sleep, I have had a loooooooong 12 hour day.
Today's job: Swindon to Bath to Bristol to Stonehenge to Oxford then to Heathrow Airport, all one job, I'm done in, and I have to be up at 05.15 to go back to Heathrow..
default answers with no relevance, are worse then no answer, & are not answers at all, they the subversive of the truth, & of finding the truth.
if ppl like you ruled the world, the human race would be doomed. knowledge would cease it's accumulation and only 2000 year old BS would be there to take it's place.
Science dose not know every thing, & that's Exactly the reason it persists to find answers. ppl like you wish to end that in the name of god.
@Carnage2K4 So you saying, that matter was here from the beginning, thats before the big bang. ;-) Can you tell me how this works exactly, if you subscribe to this thought then you are no different to me. You have no real answers, but it would be wise to say that something made it, or else it would not be present. I am a loving, respectful person, I do not want to war against any one, all want world peace just like the next man, I even respect you and your strange beliefs,..
@AronRaHAHAHA phfff @ my type error that did not get picked up by spell check...
this is your misunderstanding; you are APPLYING a time constant to the answer given. you don't seem to be able to contemplate that time is BEING ACTED UPON, it's not "outside" acting upon the singularity, it's squashed up with all the other universal constants that you perceive as reality. and outside the singularity can only be speculated upon. it's both infinite and finite at the same time.
@AronRaHAHAHA I have no real Answers???? are you fucking joking? you have not answered a a single fucking question put to you! all you do is ignore them! SO I ASK; WHY PRESCRIBE TO GOD AS THE ANSWER??? WHAT VALID REASON DO YOU HAVE???
@Carnage2K4 Do you have to swear? You are in danger of me handing you over to satan for discipline.
My valid reason is this: Science tells us it has not got any answer, and if are to believe science then it will never have the answer, the laws of thermo-dynamics states this clearly.
So then what are we to suppose? Science tells us it's impossible, so then what other answer can we come up with? Only one, we are left with the Creator, and the Scriptures back it up, it has not been disproven.
@AronRaHAHAHA you can't disprove something that dose not exist.
why is "the creator" the only answer you have? how is that any better to mathematically going back as far possible with the tool we work with. to provide a better answer?
how dose scripture back it up? that's the book that started it in the 1st place that leads to circular reasoning, and thats not an answer. as I said.
and you still missed out the valid reason question.
@AronRaHAHAHA Well I stared watching that vid and so far all I'm seeing the current known science being twisted yet again to fit a religious view. discounting many things in the process I'm not done yet so that's all Ill comment on it atm.
I'm not done yet and will give a full deconstruction after I finish watching it. but until then here is something for you Andy. watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
please make an effort to watch most of the presentation and you might must understand our view point.
@AronRaHAHAHA so you understand how, something can mathematically resonate from nothing??
but I assume you still equate God to this event, once again only with a faith based reasoning. because of your brainwashing.
even in the video of your I seen that that guy was reasoning that the "7 days" might have actually been billions of years... with the possibility for evolution to be a god started process, and that dose not fit with you denial of "macro" evolution...
@AronRaHAHAHA and as that guy said "I know I'm gods creation" but he still dose not give any reason to this "knowledge" it's still all just assumed. and he goes on about the big bang being started by god from nothing etc etc, but there is never a reason to assume "god did it" other then faith. once again that is all you ppl have... still nothing but it, it that is all that sustains your religion in the face over incredibly overwhelming evidence. and that is the definition of Delusion!
@Carnage2K4 Big bang=expansion of matter energy time and space.
Do you not think it strange to say that everything came from nothing?
You obviously believe in a big bang, this did not happen, the law of angular momentum refutes any big bang theory, big bangs make big messes, and our solar system is not a mess, our solar system is finally balanced, just one planet out of it's orbit would mean our planet would be un-liveable.
@AronRaHAHAHA I fail to see how angular momentum has anything to do with the big bang theory, better tell me about it Andy.
"just one planet out of it's orbit would mean our planet would be un-liveable"... that is pure BS by you Andy, the earth could be be the only planet in our solar system and with some very good luck harbour life as long as it's in the goldilocks zone. it's the anthropic principle, if earth where not liveable we would not be around to say it's not.
@AronRaHAHAHA Still waiting for your answer to my simple question. Do you believe in the inerrency of the Bible?
Of course, you have already stated you do not. I just want to know if you are 'man enough' to admit it directly.
When you said the bible contains translation errors, you are saying it is not to be taken literally. Just wondering if you realized what you were saying.
So, how about it? Is the Bible the literal word of God? Every word to be believed on faith?
@AronRaHAHAHA You have made a scientifically verifiable/falsifiable claim. "Just one planet out of it's orbit would mean our planet would be un-liveable."
This is the way science works... you have an idea. You test it. You discard or refine it based on those tests.
Where are your mathematical models indicating any change in any planet would negate life on Earth?
See? THAT is the difference between science and religion. We test our ideas rigorously.
@Leonid3s I can not prove to you God did it, but with the absence of a physical causer we can not get the cause.
God was the uncaused causer, so in His time He caused the cause, (r u still with me?) the cause was us and all creation.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but all your studies were probably a waste of time, at the end of the day, you have still not found the answer, I did not go to Uni, and I have got the answer.
@AronRaHAHAHA and with your, "The answer is Jesus, now whats the question" you will never get it. and you will never understand the answers given to you. I don't think you have watched that vid Andy. I think your masquerading as some1 who knows what he's talking about but with persistence I can holes in your logic, your thinking and your understanding and with those holes present you can't do any thing but rely on god for "Answers". filling a gap with anything is not an answer.
@Carnage2K4 The Bible makes perfect sense of the world around.
Through peer pressure and an expectation of other people's ridicule many folk dismiss the Bible and call it "bronze age teachings" and it's not relevant for the world we now live in.
The Bible is alive, as it predicts the future very accurately, it has never been wrong in the past and I have total confidence it will not be wrong in the future, in a nut shell, it can be relied upon.
@Leonid3s I do not have to prove to you God did it, I can't and I wont pretend to, but for some reason (probably pride) you wont admit to me that God is a possibility.
Well done to you, you must have a great deal of satisfaction in your job, hope it works our well for you, but do not let your achievements go to your head and get over confident full of self importance.
I to have been in hard study, I have just spent $30,000 on an app for the i-phone which should be coming out within a month.
@AronRaHAHAHA I admit God is a possibility. That is not a problem for my theology or my science. I have already stated I believe in God. Again, not an issue for me.
My issues arise when people "of faith" attempt to 'prove' how God created the universe and in the process want to invalidate almost every field of science.
Religion can not 'explain away' the facts of reality. To attempt to do so is to deny the beauty of the creation. imo.
A layman's theory of the big bang. This was a supposed small dot which was super heavy and super dense, all matter energy time space was crushed inside this dot, the dot was spinning in one direction, it then exploded, spreading all across the universe. We are told the matter was spinning in just one direction, anti clockwise perhaps? So why is it we see planets in our solar system spinning in clockwise and anti clockwise motion?
@AronRaHAHAHA that's bloody stupid, 1. it's "expansion" not "explosion", and holy shit you have no idea what your talking about! it's WAS the universe you knuckle head not an explosion inside the universe. you still don't understand, as I have said many many times now. and you can't dispute something you can't even contemplate. YOU FAIL! MATE! so no that did not happen! that is entirely WRONG!
@AronRaHAHAHA I am astounded at your error in understanding Andy. this is the biggest error yet. so thank you for showing me how much you don't understand.
you don't understand evolution and you don't understand the big bang. that is the reason you need a god. your simply to thick to contemplate either idea/theory/scientific theory.
so the only thing your right at was that the things you say did not happen, did not happen the way as you understand them.
@Carnage2K4 Many brilliant brains over many years have tried to disprove God, but they have all failed.
The Bible has stood the test of time, and it will always be a book of much discussion, this is our manual for life, and we would be wise to take on board the lessons within the book.
It teaches love, tolerance, forgiveness, acceptance, discipline, and life after death in the spiritual realm for ever.
I have totally been won over by this book, and it stands up scientifically.
@AronRaHAHAHA Wow. I was going to give you a pass, until that last sentence. Your belief in the Bible is called Faith. If the Bible could be proven it would not require Faith.
I wish I had epic hair like thunderf00t :/
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@Zeb612 If you were a jew like Tf00t then you would have the heeb fro too.
DollabiIIz2 2 months ago
Heh .. I haven't heard the term 'jiggery pokery' in far too long. Great for a chuckle.
JaytheOstrich 2 months ago
BANE?
dkthg 2 months ago
I'm being moderately smug.
fuzzytangent 3 months ago
You only assume he's arrogant because of his posh British accent. >.>
fuzzytangent 3 months ago
@fuzzytangent There is no such thing as a British accent. He's English. I am also English, and I think he is arrogant. And I'm not a religious person (I'm not a self-described atheist either). I did catch his video about Sharia law and Theo Van Gogh and thought he was being pretty dodgy with it.
FormerHuman 2 months ago
@FormerHuman
I'm just being sarcastic. He actually is pretty arrogant..
fuzzytangent 2 months ago
arrogant stuck up man...rather sad
Flash02021990 3 months ago
You are an extremely cool person. That is all.
combatcommand 3 months ago
that is a nice telescope what is the magnifcation on that beauty??
Rambofreedomfighter 4 months ago
Thunderfoot. You dont have to say "that should be moderatly interesting." You can just say "that should be interesting." You can use few words from time to time. Don't try and church up every opinion. Just be real.
Jeffersonwazright 5 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright Please stfu.
Bleumange 4 months ago
@Bleumange Blow me bitch.
Jeffersonwazright 4 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
But there are differing levels of interestingness to address! D:
fuzzytangent 3 months ago
@fuzzytangent There are plenty of words for each level of interest.
Jeffersonwazright 3 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
Which is why it should be acceptable to use them when necessary. :3
fuzzytangent 3 months ago
@fuzzytangent My point is that there is no reason to go around saying a thing moderately piques an interest. It comes across as smug. As if there are so many things in one’s life that pique interest that this thing is just a little bit interesting and not a lot. It’s smug.
Jeffersonwazright 3 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
You're being moderately irritating.
fuzzytangent 3 months ago
@fuzzytangent You are being smug.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
That is one beautiful snake!
auritone 5 months ago
East side VS West side
Rotorzilla 6 months ago
I knew I remembered your voice. I saw your video where Glenn Beck ridiculously blamed a murder on godlessness.
JustREALrap 6 months ago
that sane is fuckin huge
wlchambers 8 months ago
Dude, your voice is like chocolate for ears.
ilovesarakim 8 months ago 12
this is the proof! Thunderf00t is a snake handler! that is why sometimes he is so crazy!
truvak 9 months ago
What is thunderf00ot profession?? He is a Physicist ?
paygi110709 9 months ago
@paygi110709 He's actually never announced his major or name. Physicist has been my educated guess since watching his videos
RockSmithStudio 6 months ago
I tend to believe Thunderfoot over the creationist based on the size of his telescope. I'm sure if God was out there Thunderfoot would of run into him a few times
xxYetterxx 9 months ago 27
@xxYetterxx This induced a real lol. Thank you.
facewiz 9 months ago
WESTSYYYDDD
ViperRob42 10 months ago
Is it just me, or does Thunderf00t look a little like Gordon Freeman?
BruceyGoodness 11 months ago 4
@BruceyGoodness He IS Gordon Freeman!
meh23p 9 months ago 10
THAT TELESCOPE IS FUCKING AMAZING. Is it for astro-photography purposes thunderf00t? I ask because while searching for one to buy, telescopes with this much aperture were mostly for space photography.
ssjmike92 11 months ago
ps. you've got some sweet toys
tr0ll00l 11 months ago
EAST COAST FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tr0ll00l 11 months ago
the penis. it fits perfectly in the hand...BWAHAHA!!!
lastmondaypast1 11 months ago
all of your irl videos are badass
MrWillsauce 1 year ago
BIG BEAAAAAAAAAAAR
hojima 1 year ago
Celestron made a telescope like THAT? Who'd have thought.
Goalatio 1 year ago
Your brother is bill gates?
SuperiorApostate 1 year ago
u should of taken a plane
bellyzbad 1 year ago
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kennegun 1 year ago
@kennegun
What has a Christmastree to do with religion?
Londron 1 year ago
@kennegun You do realize though that Christmas, despite the name, is in it's origins and up to this day for many people a pagan festival, right?
Anima10pontonet 1 year ago
@Anima10pontonet Yes we all know now these day came about. It is not some deep dark secret it a matter of history. When the Roman converted to Christianity they have these feast days so they moved them from pagan worship to a Christan event like the birth of Christ. They did not have any dates for the events so one day was as good at another. So what is your point?
yeudh 11 months ago
@yeudh You openly admit the entire thing is manipulated and there's nothing sacred about it.
Anima10pontonet 11 months ago
@Anima10pontonet Well sure they are sacred that is the day you celebrate Gods birth. Unless you are in communication with JC himself.. December 25 will have to do.
yeudh 11 months ago
@yeudh Oh sure they are sacred but you can just pick around the day according to convenience. Or what convinces more people who believes in other gods that yours is the best. Fuck yes, sacred things.
They're so practical.
Anima10pontonet 11 months ago
I've got a big snake too. Its below my head.
stevjen1 1 year ago
sounds like ray comfort god it trying to stop you from seeing the west coast
stoopefy 1 year ago
the best i could is except that this is gonna hurt LOL funny
redraven117 1 year ago
LOL @ "I almost died in a tent"
toobularbells 1 year ago
Lol @ 5:03!!
DunFergetLunch 1 year ago
nice phone
AceofDlamonds 1 year ago
belief ... funny thing i thought science was based on observation and what we can perceive within our means... from there we piece more of the puzzle of biological purpose... the other side just accept stories... well it aint good enough... I want to KNOW not believe for the sake of social pressure or majority voting of something
1 no one can prove unreal stories
2 Believe something that has no real substance
3 Is based on OPINIONS of those with little understanding of their own environment
pff
jammapcb 1 year ago
You looked less stiff and more happy in the face before you started dealing with Islam Tf00t.
graphattic 1 year ago
ummm doesnt jupiter rotate once in just under 10 hours? or am i wrong?
Griffin9857 1 year ago
Does the snake talk? Of course not, that would just be crazy,
CanineFaeces 1 year ago
double rainbow
bobplatypus 1 year ago 25
rubbish
michigan6443 1 year ago
Read Vox Days' "The Irrational Atheist" and Wired Magazines observation that atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged people with unpleasant personalities such as Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, one could reasonably hypothesize that there is likely to be a strong correlation between Aspergers and atheism. Aspergers Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder on the autism spectrum (some even claim it is merely Autism)
moonlightbateman 1 year ago
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dark77778 1 year ago
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@moonlightbateman You're confusing a theological point of view with a brain deficiency. A physical characteristic of the body with a system of thinking. That's like saying that all circumcised people must be Jewish. There's just as much a chance of anyone with an ASD to be any type of religion or thinker. Not just aethist. Your argument states that either all atheists are autistic (which they are not) and that all autistic people are atheists.
dark77778 1 year ago
@moonlightbateman What, socially 'unpleasant' because they don't go to church? How exactly is Dawkins 'unpleasant'? Because he can't stand people making unfounded claims then telling everyone to believe them and act according to them?
JaytheOstrich 2 months ago
@JaytheOstrich Read Vox Days' "The Irrational Atheist" and Wired Magazines observation that atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged people with unpleasant personalities such as Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Madalyn Murray O'Hair, one could reasonably hypothesize that there is likely to be a strong correlation between Aspergers and atheism. Aspergers Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder on the autism spectrum (some even claim it is merely Autism)
moonlightbateman 2 months ago
@moonlightbateman Wow. So you can suddenly make case of a wide group through a small (under 10) sample group? Based on what, a book written by a Christian? Gee, there couldn't possibly be a bias there could there.
JaytheOstrich 2 months ago
@JaytheOstrich The fact that you are arguing that you are not argumentative proves my point. Thanks!
moonlightbateman 2 months ago
@moonlightbateman Who said anything about 'argumentative'? The post I replied to was about them being 'unpleasant'. And what does 'argumentative' have to do with Asperger's Syndrome?
JaytheOstrich 2 months ago
hey thunderfoot
shintosungod 1 year ago
dude buy plane tickets and fly there mate its easier haha like the work your doing keep it up from all the psychology students in w.i.t here in ireland
ussomega1 1 year ago
he'e like a cross between wierd al yanovic and john lennon...in both physical features and political views...
bbender1986 1 year ago
@bbender1986 Tf00t is sexy.
InvertedHorizon 1 year ago
@InvertedHorizon hah. for a wookie
bbender1986 1 year ago
@bbender1986 lol.
InvertedHorizon 1 year ago
@InvertedHorizon =D
bbender1986 1 year ago
So Thunderf00t wants to Genocide All RAY COMFORTS?!?!? ZOMG wat a biggit!
paradoarify 1 year ago
You havent looked at the face of death because death concerns the whole and not just a part of the whole, everything you think you know and everything you dont know understanding that every person lives in their own complex or simple world. For instance a government that gets kids to kill women and children in other countries and yet pray to Jesus who says dont kill. Exactly what DO YOU think of the imaturity and lack of intelligence of people who run the world?Saving Humanityistotinkindergarten
SuperChristopherZ 1 year ago
@SuperChristopherZ Shut the fuck up you waste of oxygen
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
Thunderfoot is not Evil he can be saved. He is at least willing to come out and debate not hide from people like I've seen other Evolutionists do. He seems to be purposely deceitful sometimes though.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123
You sound like an absolute idiot. "saved"?
TVOham 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 - you, sir, are a fool. Evolutionists (a term coined by nut bags such as yourself) are not hiding-we are in plain sight, all around you, infact you are increasingly outnumbered with every passing year. Add up all the religions, now the people who are religious, now only keep the ones that actually believe in a creationist origin of life, universe and everything, now compare what you've got left, with the people who believe in evolution...zing! Save yourself, we don't need saving
March6371 1 year ago
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@March6371 The real term is "Evotard" a term based on the fact that there is NO evidence for evolution; this idea that humans evolved from fish over some immense time and by some magical bullshit. There is no magical bullshit in real science. If you have any absolutely irrefutable evidence for evolution that is not based on faith and belief, then show it to us. I have seen all of it and nothing supports evolution.
GoodScienceForYou 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 he's just smarter than you... like most people are.
tmass1 1 year ago
@tmass1 No you're just an ass like most Americans.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
i didnt know you did fpv i have a hele set up for it
timmykill 1 year ago
Nice telescope
timmykill 1 year ago 74
@timmykill thats a japanese sex toy, not a telescope m8
mikesomething 1 year ago
@mikesomething Hes actually goatse.
hojima 1 year ago
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So ray didnt want the opportunity to do this (save the lost?) for thousands of dollars, and YOU had to do all the travelling?
Hes not a Christian and you blew his arguments out the window.
1 TIM 4:9-11 :- THIS is a TRUSTWORTHY saying that deserves FULL acceptance (and for this we work and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who IS the Savior of ALL men, and especially of those who believe. COMMAND AND TEACH THESE THINGS.
marcstalkspot 1 year ago
If you had Jeezus you would be glad to die and get a mansion on Pluto, and probably a Bentley too, mansions suck without Bentleys. :)
nduri2 1 year ago
Damnnn. You're sexy and you're intelligent. :D *is very turned on right now*
syntheticinjection13 1 year ago
AronRaHaHaHa
SAYING GOOD NIGHT AND GOD BLESS.
I WILL KICK YOUR BUTT'S AGAIN TOMORROW, IT WAS FUN.
THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WEEL BE MILLIONAIRES. watch?v=P1IwprqwV6I&feature=related
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
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Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA :D, congratulations, you just got nailed.
anyway, stick to the blatant denial in the future. it's all you can really do.
so do you want me to start on how the Bible makes little sense and has never predicted anything? you might (prolly not) have better luck in that area.
With all the nonsensical literature in the bible you can basically read into it anyway you want, if you add shit like "read between the lines" & "personal interpretation" into it you can make anything from anything
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA To "kick our butts again" you would have to do it the first time. You havent.
Surely you do not suffer the sin of pride?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Do I have to hand you over to satan for teaching?
It's my duty as a believer to "go into the world teaching and correcting"
I have no pride, I am dead (earthen vessel) but alive the Christ in me (spiritual rebirth)
But you would not understand this, not yet, but I can teach you if you are willing to listen and dump your pride..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
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@AronRaHAHAHA "Do I have to hand you over to satan for teaching?"
so you work for Satan? well he seems nicer the Yahweh but shit Andy I thought you where on the Christian side not the satanic version of your silly mythology. well good luck handing ppl over to your dark load. and tell ill see him in hell, *wink wink*
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 What was that you said...
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA well it's there too read I don't think I need to type it again.
I got the impression you where ready to hand some1 over to "Satan". I mean I can see why, Satan dose not have a book dedicated to mass murder, rape, torture, incest, bestiality and senseless killing that ppl follow for no other reason then the fear of hell... wait... now I'm confused who's the bad guy in this scenario?
I know god tried to fix it by killing some more ppl, including himself.. but arrr that made sense :)
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 on that note where do Hebrew-christens get there mortality from? with all the sadomasochistic psychosis in the 1st testament, I'm surprised they know anything... well maybe it was because they needed to social interaction to be pleasant both ways... hmm now that sounds like an evolutionary answer... maybe the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was making you think your worshipping god, while god was banished to hell... huh, interesting :)
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Whats a Hebrew christen? Do you mean christian? All morality is God given, why does the swallow bird know how to build it's nest? how does a joey (baby kangaroo) know how to crawl up to it's mothers pouch?
God's morals have been branded on our heart, you know when you have done wrong, your conscience pricks you!
The fact we are alive can only be attributed to one thing, and it's not a chance happening, we got here via intelligence, look around, you will see order, all is order..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Hebrew Christen = 1st & 2nd testament saps.
"(baby kangaroo)" arrr yeah, I'm Australian....
I think you a little confused again, with "morals" this time. yeah nature cares little for moral conduct... they do those things for a good reason, also explained in great detail by evolution. like I said, you can make what you want from bible scripture. funny how the 2nd coming is currently 1000 years late... but they must have been a bit off that day huh?
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 The human race is in for some dire times in the coming years, (ref: Matthew 24 & Luke 21)
There you will see human and world history written in advance, also read the book of Isaiah & Revelation, it's a hard book to understand, not to be taken literally as most of it is analogies. (a type of, similar)
If it's in the Bible, it's going to happen..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA yeah been waiting for Armageddon for a while now, hows that coming anyway? 2012 is the new date is it? any idea the date after that, I want to be ready? I want to have a good stockpile of marshmallow to cook when it kicks off.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Job was handed over to satan, in 1st Timothy paul the apostle handed Hymenaeus and Alexander over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
We believers if we are a serious about our faith, and I am, have also this power at our disposal.
This world is at present being handed over to satan, the whole human race is unfortunately wicked, selfish, deceitful, sex mad, money hungry, a drug culture, and worst of all, disbelieving.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA No, you can "teach" me if I am willing to ignore reality.
All creation proclaims the wonder of creation. All of it. That includes the rocks that are over a BILLION years old, sta light reaching us from a billion years ago and the miracle of biodiversity seen everywhere on this planet.
Saying God did it all, is a philosophical and theological point most 'evolutionists' have no problem with.
Saying a rock over a BILLION years old is actually less than 6000, there is the rub.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s All the dating methods rely on presupposed ideas.
Carbon dating relies on the amount of carbon in an object, and dated from that, this is inaccurate as the amount of carbon in the atmosphere has not always been a constant, nuclear tests increase the amount of carbon in the atmosphere dramatically.
led 208 led 206 and the rest all rely on presupposed ideas which are not factual, you can falsify the dates to make it what ever you wanted it to be,..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Good God! (no pun intended) Did you have to study to be this ignorant?
Carbon dating relies on the PERCENTAGE of Carbon14 in the atmosphere at the time the organism lived. The organism incorporates the C14 into itself as long as it lives at the SAME PERCENTAGE. When the organism dies, it stops adding C14.
Therefore, you can take the percentage of C14 remaining in a formerly living organic item and determine its age.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA And the element is LEAD, not led.
You wave your hands and dismiss decades of scientific research with no other proof than, "I dont believe it."
Well guess what? Religious nuts have done that since the beginning.
The Earth is not the center of the universe. Proven but previously denied by christianity.
The Sun does not orbit the Earth. Proven, but previously denied by christianity.
Provide your PROOF the U238-->Pb208 series is flawed.
You cant.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA You never did answer my last question. How old do you think the universe is? It is important to the discussion.
Only a young earth creationist has to deny the reality of the radioactive dating techniques. For the old earth creationist and the intelligent design proponents, it is a non-issue, as their 'science' can accomodate an old earth.
So, how old do you think the universe is?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Go and look at my vid, short for video, like led short for lead, lol short for laughing out load, wtf short for........
watch?v=s1nVMknaEY4
Distance and time..glah,ymwadb, short for, "go look arse hole, you man with a dysfunctional brain."
P for pissoff........
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA LED is short for "light emitting diode". Pb is the atomic symbol for lead. LED has never meant LEAD, except in the minds of the extremely ignorant or uneducated.
Which are you? (Dont hurt your mind too much, the two states are not mutually exclusive. You can choose both.)
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Fascinating how such a 'good, moral, ethical christian' can descend to profanity, especially against someone that has not used it against him.
You cant even claim self-defense.
But this is typical for fanatics when the underpinnings of their delusions are questioned.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s You called me good, I am not good, by what are you judging good by? What is your "yard stick" for good? What is good for that matter?
I live my life according to the scriptures as this is the truth..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Noah was a "good" man, as described by the scriptures. So was Lot.
If you live by the scriptures, then you would be a 'good' man, by the definition used by the bible itself.
However, your behavior is not indicative of one living by the scriptures. Your profanity alone would be sufficient to indicate that.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Noah was an "righteous man" in the eyes of God.
It does not say he was a "good man."
Go read genesis 6:9
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Now you are splitting hairs.
Please give your understanding of the difference between a "good man" and a "righteous man".
btw, I have read the bible, every word, cover to cover, including the begats and all the strange laws and history.
Now you read Psalm 37:23, Psalm 112:5, Proverbs 12:2, Proverbs 13:22, Proverbs 14:14, Luke 23:50, Acts 11:24, etc.
Each speaks of a 'good man' and clearly defines him as one who follows the word of God.
Sophistry is unwarranted.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s
Mark 10:18 Jesus speaking "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
I guess there are different depths to goodness, in God's eyes were all sinners and there's no good in us, in man's eyes all is either good or bad, depending on how we are to one another.
I know I'm no good, and I need a saviour, we all do.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Each of the verses I cited specifically mentioned a "good man". If no man is good, why would the Bible describe the attributes of a 'good man'?
It is a contradiction.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s It depends what Bible version you looked at.
The New King James is probably as close as we are going to get to the original scriptures.
It's hard to say for sure, Jesus said no man is good, and why call me good.
I know for sure, when I look at what I am supposed to be and what I am, I am not good, I am a hypocrite and fall well short of glory, I am surprised God has the time for any of us let alone me. i am truly ashamed of myself when I think back in my past, I need to do better.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA I took those from the King James, as I assumed it was what you used. Using a concordance, I checked the verses against the New King James version. Most verses remain the same, including the phrase "good man".
The Bible clearly recognized some men as "good".
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA You certainly do need to do better. Try reading a real science book and then take a psychology course or two so you can find out what is wrong with you. I would tell you but you wont believe me, you need to find it out for yourself.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild: Perhaps I could borrow yours when you have finished reading it.
My education is doing just fine, at least I have not been indoctrinated, this is a tactic used by government to align people into the way they want you to think.
Hitler in the 30's & 40's was very successful in doing this..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA You have been indoctrinated. Into a cult that first tells you that you are worthless, broken, and they are the only ones that can fix you. And yes, Hitler was very successful. Because he used the same tactics that religions do. Have a nice non-delusional day.
alianchild 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA "at least I have not been indoctrinated"
Hilarious.
NormDePlume69 1 year ago
@Leonid3s
GNBA, short for, good night brain ache.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Yes, still dodging the "how old do you think the universe is?" question.
We both know why.
But, it is essential to the discussion.
How old do you think the universe is?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA So, how old do you think the universe is?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s I just answered you this Q.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Yes, you did answer it, on a different video.
Allow me to pass it along to this viewing audience.
AronraHaHaHa believes the universe is 'very old, about 6000 years".
They makes him a young earth creationist. The most fanatic and dogmatic of the various creation 'science' groups.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
ps... left out "in the original Italian".
Should read, "It would be similar to attempting a conversation on the finer philosophical points of The Divine Comedy in the original Italian with someone who does not understand Italian, ie pointless."
My apologies for any confusion.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
In short, you have no science backing your position. Your position is entirely religious.
All your arguments boil down to a mere two:
1) God made it that way
2) "You can't prove that"
You are right. We can not prove anything to anyone without the background in math and science to understand the proof. It would be similar to attempting a conversation on the finer philosophical points of The Divine Comedy with someone who does not understand Italian, ie pointless.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Science does not have all the answers, this is why they are trying with the spectron collider to get some kind of answer.
All they will find is how matter is formed by the material present, what I want to know is where did the material come from to make the spectron collider results? In a nut shell, where did the molecules come from in the first instance, I believe it was God made, there's nothing wrong in thinking this way.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA What I want to know is, do you believe every word in the bible?
Simple question. Why is your answer not as simple?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Not all words literally, it depends what parts you are referring to, I don't think all the Bible is meant to be taken literally, but I am still studying it, the Bible is a book that will go on teaching us till the end of time. It's been around for thousands of years, and it will still be here in another thousand years. I believe in the 6 days of creation, I believe Jesus was the Son of God, I believe He died and was raised 3 days later, and I believe He will return perhaps in my life.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA No, it doesnt. You either believe all of it, or you dont. Simple.
Now that you have answered that question, how do YOU decide which parts to believe and not believe?
Do you believe the universe and everything in it was created in 6 24hour days, 6,000 years ago?
This is rather crucial to the discussion.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA and it just keeps coming... OMG Andy, no they will not be looking for "how matter is formed by the material present" that is known. it's grade 10 physics/chemistry, there is a myriad of things the LHC will be testing and looking for but that's not 1 of them (that I have heard of). your problem is understanding. you want to know things? well your going to be ready to give up your faith because it's looking like the 2 are incompatible.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA There is nothing wrong in believing anything you want. Either you are right or wrong. Simple.
But attempting to turn religion into science is wrong. Science can be verified. But it does not deal with "Poof, a miracle occurred". That is the province of religion.
To believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, you have to ignore all the evidence that the earth is much older. That is not faith. That is willful ignorance at best and bearing false witness at worst.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
Thunderf00t got stuck in a Thunderstorm lol.
Anon12356 1 year ago
There is also a 'branch' of 'christian scholarship' that believes the future is predicted in the bible. They take the bible and examine it in detail, like a word jumble puzzle, drawing lines through the characters at various angles. 'They' believe WW2, 9/11 and thousands more historical events are predicted by the bible.
Other scholars, attempting to verify the technique, found the same types of 'historical predictions' in Shakespeare and more modern texts.
Not science.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
by that definition gravity is also cannot be physical. as only it's effects can be descried mathematically not the force it self... (currently)... I see what your saying but the fact it's effects can be read, described (un-mathematically) and predicted with good accuracy while being read with MRI as well as the the cause know, is evidence of it's physical nature (be it a fickle one). it can even be "tweaked" with good accuracy in brain operations...
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 What state was gravity before it's present state?
If gravity did not evolve, then it must have come into existence immediately, so if it did not evolve then it must have been created.
Think deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
Talk later, I must get some sleep, I have had a loooooooong 12 hour day.
Today's job: Swindon to Bath to Bristol to Stonehenge to Oxford then to Heathrow Airport, all one job, I'm done in, and I have to be up at 05.15 to go back to Heathrow..
Gnite..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA "must have"... why must it have?
default answers with no relevance, are worse then no answer, & are not answers at all, they the subversive of the truth, & of finding the truth.
if ppl like you ruled the world, the human race would be doomed. knowledge would cease it's accumulation and only 2000 year old BS would be there to take it's place.
Science dose not know every thing, & that's Exactly the reason it persists to find answers. ppl like you wish to end that in the name of god.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 So you saying, that matter was here from the beginning, thats before the big bang. ;-) Can you tell me how this works exactly, if you subscribe to this thought then you are no different to me. You have no real answers, but it would be wise to say that something made it, or else it would not be present. I am a loving, respectful person, I do not want to war against any one, all want world peace just like the next man, I even respect you and your strange beliefs,..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA phfff @ my type error that did not get picked up by spell check...
this is your misunderstanding; you are APPLYING a time constant to the answer given. you don't seem to be able to contemplate that time is BEING ACTED UPON, it's not "outside" acting upon the singularity, it's squashed up with all the other universal constants that you perceive as reality. and outside the singularity can only be speculated upon. it's both infinite and finite at the same time.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA I have no real Answers???? are you fucking joking? you have not answered a a single fucking question put to you! all you do is ignore them! SO I ASK; WHY PRESCRIBE TO GOD AS THE ANSWER??? WHAT VALID REASON DO YOU HAVE???
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Do you have to swear? You are in danger of me handing you over to satan for discipline.
My valid reason is this: Science tells us it has not got any answer, and if are to believe science then it will never have the answer, the laws of thermo-dynamics states this clearly.
So then what are we to suppose? Science tells us it's impossible, so then what other answer can we come up with? Only one, we are left with the Creator, and the Scriptures back it up, it has not been disproven.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA you can't disprove something that dose not exist.
why is "the creator" the only answer you have? how is that any better to mathematically going back as far possible with the tool we work with. to provide a better answer?
how dose scripture back it up? that's the book that started it in the 1st place that leads to circular reasoning, and thats not an answer. as I said.
and you still missed out the valid reason question.
GO
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Go look at some Bible science stuff on YT, here's a good one: watch?v=fbMVP0fNaDg
Many people throw the book away and disbelieve any of it, all because they have not got the patience to try and understand it.
Please watch some of it, it does go one for a while but it will give you an understanding of the origins of creation.
This man was a brilliant scientist! No longer with us unfortunately.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Well I stared watching that vid and so far all I'm seeing the current known science being twisted yet again to fit a religious view. discounting many things in the process I'm not done yet so that's all Ill comment on it atm.
I'm not done yet and will give a full deconstruction after I finish watching it. but until then here is something for you Andy. watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
please make an effort to watch most of the presentation and you might must understand our view point.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Seen most of it already.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA so you understand how, something can mathematically resonate from nothing??
but I assume you still equate God to this event, once again only with a faith based reasoning. because of your brainwashing.
even in the video of your I seen that that guy was reasoning that the "7 days" might have actually been billions of years... with the possibility for evolution to be a god started process, and that dose not fit with you denial of "macro" evolution...
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA and as that guy said "I know I'm gods creation" but he still dose not give any reason to this "knowledge" it's still all just assumed. and he goes on about the big bang being started by god from nothing etc etc, but there is never a reason to assume "god did it" other then faith. once again that is all you ppl have... still nothing but it, it that is all that sustains your religion in the face over incredibly overwhelming evidence. and that is the definition of Delusion!
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Big bang=expansion of matter energy time and space.
Do you not think it strange to say that everything came from nothing?
You obviously believe in a big bang, this did not happen, the law of angular momentum refutes any big bang theory, big bangs make big messes, and our solar system is not a mess, our solar system is finally balanced, just one planet out of it's orbit would mean our planet would be un-liveable.
I thank God He's in control..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA I fail to see how angular momentum has anything to do with the big bang theory, better tell me about it Andy.
"just one planet out of it's orbit would mean our planet would be un-liveable"... that is pure BS by you Andy, the earth could be be the only planet in our solar system and with some very good luck harbour life as long as it's in the goldilocks zone. it's the anthropic principle, if earth where not liveable we would not be around to say it's not.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Still waiting for your answer to my simple question. Do you believe in the inerrency of the Bible?
Of course, you have already stated you do not. I just want to know if you are 'man enough' to admit it directly.
When you said the bible contains translation errors, you are saying it is not to be taken literally. Just wondering if you realized what you were saying.
So, how about it? Is the Bible the literal word of God? Every word to be believed on faith?
Step up.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA You have made a scientifically verifiable/falsifiable claim. "Just one planet out of it's orbit would mean our planet would be un-liveable."
This is the way science works... you have an idea. You test it. You discard or refine it based on those tests.
Where are your mathematical models indicating any change in any planet would negate life on Earth?
See? THAT is the difference between science and religion. We test our ideas rigorously.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Go do the research and then come back to me and tell me your results..
This is NOT a faith/religious issue..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA This is EXACTLY a faith/religious issue.
YOU HAVE NOTHING YOU CAN PROVE!
Your only recourse is to claim the "other guy is just like me", meaning science is just religion also.
And I did my research. I graduated 'uni'. Several times. And I told you the result.
In the case of U238, the half life is 4.5BILLION years. THAT is the result.
Now, you want to discount decades of research into radioactive isotopes.
Where is your proof?
And what are your credentials?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s I can not prove to you God did it, but with the absence of a physical causer we can not get the cause.
God was the uncaused causer, so in His time He caused the cause, (r u still with me?) the cause was us and all creation.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but all your studies were probably a waste of time, at the end of the day, you have still not found the answer, I did not go to Uni, and I have got the answer.
The answer is Jesus, now whats the question. :-)
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA and with your, "The answer is Jesus, now whats the question" you will never get it. and you will never understand the answers given to you. I don't think you have watched that vid Andy. I think your masquerading as some1 who knows what he's talking about but with persistence I can holes in your logic, your thinking and your understanding and with those holes present you can't do any thing but rely on god for "Answers". filling a gap with anything is not an answer.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 The Bible makes perfect sense of the world around.
Through peer pressure and an expectation of other people's ridicule many folk dismiss the Bible and call it "bronze age teachings" and it's not relevant for the world we now live in.
The Bible is alive, as it predicts the future very accurately, it has never been wrong in the past and I have total confidence it will not be wrong in the future, in a nut shell, it can be relied upon.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA You can not prove to anyone that God did it. Fine. That is the nature of Faith. If it could be proven, it would be science.
And my 'waste of time' does just fine when I am treating patients and saving lives. Not one or two annectdotal stories here and there, but thousands.
How many thousands of lives have you saved? How have you helped your fellow man?
If Jesus is the answer, the question was not a rational one, but spiritual.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s I do not have to prove to you God did it, I can't and I wont pretend to, but for some reason (probably pride) you wont admit to me that God is a possibility.
Well done to you, you must have a great deal of satisfaction in your job, hope it works our well for you, but do not let your achievements go to your head and get over confident full of self importance.
I to have been in hard study, I have just spent $30,000 on an app for the i-phone which should be coming out within a month.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA I admit God is a possibility. That is not a problem for my theology or my science. I have already stated I believe in God. Again, not an issue for me.
My issues arise when people "of faith" attempt to 'prove' how God created the universe and in the process want to invalidate almost every field of science.
Religion can not 'explain away' the facts of reality. To attempt to do so is to deny the beauty of the creation. imo.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 It's does not dose.
A layman's theory of the big bang. This was a supposed small dot which was super heavy and super dense, all matter energy time space was crushed inside this dot, the dot was spinning in one direction, it then exploded, spreading all across the universe. We are told the matter was spinning in just one direction, anti clockwise perhaps? So why is it we see planets in our solar system spinning in clockwise and anti clockwise motion?
The big bang did not happen..
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA that's bloody stupid, 1. it's "expansion" not "explosion", and holy shit you have no idea what your talking about! it's WAS the universe you knuckle head not an explosion inside the universe. you still don't understand, as I have said many many times now. and you can't dispute something you can't even contemplate. YOU FAIL! MATE! so no that did not happen! that is entirely WRONG!
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA I am astounded at your error in understanding Andy. this is the biggest error yet. so thank you for showing me how much you don't understand.
you don't understand evolution and you don't understand the big bang. that is the reason you need a god. your simply to thick to contemplate either idea/theory/scientific theory.
so the only thing your right at was that the things you say did not happen, did not happen the way as you understand them.
Carnage2K4 1 year ago
@Carnage2K4 Many brilliant brains over many years have tried to disprove God, but they have all failed.
The Bible has stood the test of time, and it will always be a book of much discussion, this is our manual for life, and we would be wise to take on board the lessons within the book.
It teaches love, tolerance, forgiveness, acceptance, discipline, and life after death in the spiritual realm for ever.
I have totally been won over by this book, and it stands up scientifically.
AronRaHAHAHA 1 year ago
@AronRaHAHAHA Wow. I was going to give you a pass, until that last sentence. Your belief in the Bible is called Faith. If the Bible could be proven it would not require Faith.
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