I normally love Sokolov's playing, but this performance doesn't work for me...it's just way too fast. As piano playing per se, it's very impressive, but as music, less so.
Sokolov brings a very Romantic (and for that matter, Post-Romantic) feel to Bach, and that can ruin a performance of Bach, but he, Sokolov, is amazing-- everything he plays, he makes the piano sing! very few others can do that. Here, that beautiful expressive quality he has shines brilliantly.
Each note Grigory Sokolov plays sparkles like a precious gem, like a priceless diamond! His interpretational gift is striking,incomparable, his pianism is superb,and anybody with a fraction of musical ear should be in absolute admiration of his genius performance! Bravo!!!
I`d hesitate to single out a `best` version when there`s such wonderful completely different versions of this movement:Pletnev,Gould and Sokolov spring to mind,but there are others.
However,Sokolov is the best when it comes to playing the mordent! he articulates it in such a crisp way....i`d never imagined it could sound that way.
I'm always amazed not only about Sokolov's technique but also how much he can make the rather 'rigid' piano sound like a different instrument. Here I hear a harpsichord or even a guitar. This working with sound was a speciality of Emil Gilels (which Sokolov is a protege and admirer of).
My teacher and I recently had a discussion on how this is supposed to be played. I argued for slower, but she said it should be fast, since it's a 'touch' piece.
I'm glad to hear it fast for once, though! I really like it at this speed, though I think perhaps a -tad- slower would be best. He pulls it off wonderfully, though!
I recall Sokolov's performance of this work and his masterly rendition of the Bach Chaconne arranged by Brahms for the left hand, and 2 wonderful Beethoven sonatas at a london concert. The audience was on its feet, as I was.Yes he is a phenomenon. No doubt about it. If I have any criticism it is this. His preparation is so meticulous that even his emotional levels are inbuilt into the practice. At times, for me, it feels that some of the spontaneity, that is so vital in performance, can be lost.
I am no pro or something just a student who has to play this but I think this is just wonderfully performed. it's fast but in the way he plays it it suits, don't know why ^^
emotions are only raections, that shouldn't be the musicians aim. e.g. bachs music is much more then just "deep emotions". if the musician doesn't discover that and only does express his "deep emotions", there must be something wrong... but I think can hear sometimes more than just emotions when I listen to sokolov playing bach...but not always...
Indipendentemente dai gusti, non riesco a capire come si possa negare una semplice evidenza: è incredibile quello che fa!!! Ai criticoni (per ignoranza, per gelosia o ambo le cose) dico di fare di meglio e, di metterlo su youtube....Poi ne riparliamo...Facile parlare e criticare....
interesting! this is a 'Toccata' after all, and I guess it is that technical aspect S. exploits, rather than the romanticised version we are used to hearing.
Unfortunately, yet another musician playing Bach disrespectfully. Music is not an interesting toy to play with and I don't appreciate when people play Bach anywhere but from the heart. However, I would say that this recording is intellectually interesting and certainly skillful. And, of course, a unique interpretation is always welcome. I suppose.
sokolov qui veramente è meglio di gould, tempo da clavicembalista, chiarezza del fraseggio, il passaggio a 3.30 poi, con un mezzo piano, è semplicemente sublime. e poi bisogna dire che è dal vivo! tutti in piedi! anzi, in ginocchio...
I have no qualms over Sokolov's tempo in this work, nor do other great musicians who take it at lesser tempos, need not sound out of place for me and can be just as satisfying. This performance is focused and masterly and brought back memories of his fine playing of it I heard at the Wigmore Hall in London.
Sokolov is the only one who can create the music that can make people (whether they understand it or not) so Traumatic. This music is traumatic realization of "unimaginable itself."
Glen Gould's performance (as much as I admire his work) of the e minor opening movement is amongst his weakest interpretations, eccentric even for a player known for his eccentric performances.
In arts's matters we can't speak with sentences and absoluts. That's fascismo. You like or not of it .That's all. A performance like this only can be appreciate thru musical elements and with the ears of the soul
For someone like Sokolov, a great artist and interpreter, there is no right or wrong way to play the music of Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, or whathaveyou, there's just his way. He plays with total conviction, a fresh insight, and original style. You can't take anything away from this exquisite playing. He's different from the Horowitz's, Goulds, and Guldas and that's they it should be. This is an amazing performance. I haven't heard a recording of him that I dislike. Watch him live in Paris. Great.
There is one mental virus that is lamentably common among listeners, and its symptoms are these: close-mindedness, narrow mindedness, ignorance, arrogance, conceitedness, intolerance of the unfamiliar or new, and rudeness.
All of you who don't appreciate Sokolov's performance, please say that in front him, if you still can look through his eyes directly. This is the most amazing performance for me. The integrity is dense. His performance always holds my breath like the first time I experienced his recordings.
@jhc0907 Anche se è conosciuto come un grande pianista, non deve piacere a tutti, per forza. Ho notato che ha una visione molto personale e anche molto ostinata, su certe opere pianistiche. Ho sentito eseguire William Byrd, Rameau e Francois Couperin con troppo impeto percussivo. Inoltre è da molto tempo che non suona più con orchestre, e non ho mai sentito suonare assieme a quartetti d'archi, o con cantanti o altri solisti. Cosa ne pensi ?
You should hear Sokolov play Beethoven or Rachmaninov if you really think he's that robotic and heartless. With those two composers, he not only plays with that subliminal beauty, but the structure and form of his interpretations are obviously magnificent too.
Well, Sokolov certainly doesn't play this piece like people typically play Bach. He doesn't specifically express lyricism, or the unfoldment of the themes of the piece. Nevertheless, something about the way he plays is magnificent, even here, in this recording. It's not something that can be heard in the form and structure of his interpretation, it's something subliminal.
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This is so impersonal and inhuman sounding, like a robot. There's no sense of mystery or expression. It's technically superb though. But is playing Bach only about technical perfection? I'm afraid to say it's much too fast also. And if you are angry and disagree with me please don't visit my channel and bombard my videos with bad comments as some angry people have done in the past. Instead, go to my website and have a lesson on Bach's tempos.
Cannot agree with you more!! Totally moronic playing! The man has no idea of what Bach is. I don't understand what the whole world is hearing when it says that Sokolov's playing is "Cosmic". If "cosmos' is a vast empty space then I agree 100%: Sokolov is 100% cosmic!
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astroedic: It's nice that at least someone shares my views. It seems my opinions are very unpopular at times and I get a lot of hate mail because of it. Sokolov's Goldberg Variations are inhuman also. So is the gigue from Partita 4. My god, have a listen to this gigue for a totally cosmic experience!
it is not easy to have a different opinion from majority. But also think, that the vast majority of listeners have no ears and no brains. Then, it is pretty neat to belong to the opposite 1% of the population. Congratulations to you!
"Toccata" does not necessarily mean fast, at least for Bach and earlier music. That meaning came into usage around the time of Czerny. A toccata in Bach's time meant more of an improvisatory-type piece with perhaps some fast flourishes but not necessarily a fast or allegro tempo. Bach often used the title "Toccata" as synonymous with "Prelude". Actually, this piece is more of an andante style than allegro and it sounds much better that way. Not really slow, but a moving kind of andante.
this is simply unfounded and untrue! Firstly if you read sources such as Durr current evidence strongly suggests that it is very difficult to determine the tempos in Bach's works. Certainly much has to be done with looking at the counterpoint Bach manipulates. However, the toccata bwv 916 is marked presto... this is just 1 example!
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Of course toccatas CAN be fast or presto, but the word "toccata" in 1730 had a much different meaning than in 1830 when it had acquired its current meaning that we are all familiar with. This is not a fast piece, but Sokolov plays it fast and robotically. I've determined the tempos in all Bach's works and boldly claim I'm the only one in history to do so. See my website for more information.
Well the concept of playing Schumann tempo (faster, faster, and faster still) dates from the 1830's, but a slow interpretation of Toccata's have more in common with the 17th than the 18th century. I couldn't imagine either the Toccata & Fugue BWV 565 or the Dorian Toccata being played slowly. One of Galuppi's Toccata is marked Presto. There is also the difference between the N. German Toccata of Buxtehude and the S. German Toccata of Pachelbel. Bach knew both. Neither are pedestrian.
Wow! How original and convincing at the same time! I can't believe it has been rated down to 4 stars! But of course, should have remembered what sort of public attends YT Bach performances. Probably all Gould's groupies. :-)
HahA! So show us your Version, guys! One of the most genious Interpretes alive und ever. No Comment.
SergejKlassen 2 months ago
you guys like it fast like that?
ilt201 3 months ago
I normally love Sokolov's playing, but this performance doesn't work for me...it's just way too fast. As piano playing per se, it's very impressive, but as music, less so.
guitarwizard6 3 months ago
This magician can make a piano talk.
amezcuaist 7 months ago
Very interesting performance. For an student used to hear only Gould/Bach recordings, it is a new point of view. Very live and dinamic.
Fernando31611 7 months ago
the best pianist in this planet
ansonyeung825 7 months ago
So fresh, so vital, so musical, so precise, so much virtuoso, ... so much everything.
jsnauwaert 8 months ago 2
For me Sokolov is a recent discovery. I didn't know that today there was such a big grandmaster of the piano. Respect.
jsnauwaert 8 months ago
he makes angels round...he found a melody, it s strange.
uhfqacdfkml 9 months ago
Molto buono, un po' veloce forse ma parliamo di una Toccata e non venite a parlarmi di Gould, è un caso a parte!
giuliogermanico 9 months ago
:-D
NoHellButInYourHead 9 months ago
Sokolov brings a very Romantic (and for that matter, Post-Romantic) feel to Bach, and that can ruin a performance of Bach, but he, Sokolov, is amazing-- everything he plays, he makes the piano sing! very few others can do that. Here, that beautiful expressive quality he has shines brilliantly.
torridscene 11 months ago
Each note Grigory Sokolov plays sparkles like a precious gem, like a priceless diamond! His interpretational gift is striking,incomparable, his pianism is superb,and anybody with a fraction of musical ear should be in absolute admiration of his genius performance! Bravo!!!
drab112233 1 year ago
Sabato prossimo al teatro Morlacchi di Perugia ci sarò...
caronte21071974 1 year ago
la fuga è perfetta!!!
flic71 1 year ago
meraviglioso!!!!!!
flic71 1 year ago
Very interesting and thoughtful interpretation, and convincing after all. Enjoyed it. Thank you so much.
aomf58 1 year ago
Gould version's is better to me. Sokolov play that too fast
Saifongjunfan 1 year ago
Marvelous! Stupendous!!
mc0558 1 year ago
I`d hesitate to single out a `best` version when there`s such wonderful completely different versions of this movement:Pletnev,Gould and Sokolov spring to mind,but there are others.
However,Sokolov is the best when it comes to playing the mordent! he articulates it in such a crisp way....i`d never imagined it could sound that way.
quelbop 1 year ago
@AntonioDGO
probably it is more than music? listen to sokolovs bach i feel to be unique with the universe!
klausknulp 1 year ago
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4785689 1 year ago
I'm always amazed not only about Sokolov's technique but also how much he can make the rather 'rigid' piano sound like a different instrument. Here I hear a harpsichord or even a guitar. This working with sound was a speciality of Emil Gilels (which Sokolov is a protege and admirer of).
flippert0 1 year ago
My teacher and I recently had a discussion on how this is supposed to be played. I argued for slower, but she said it should be fast, since it's a 'touch' piece.
I'm glad to hear it fast for once, though! I really like it at this speed, though I think perhaps a -tad- slower would be best. He pulls it off wonderfully, though!
agreatguy6 1 year ago
A race between Sokolov and JS Bach, and Bach has clearly lost.
Truly an awful performance
dermaidvye 1 year ago
very fine indeed!
coutureorganist 1 year ago
I recall Sokolov's performance of this work and his masterly rendition of the Bach Chaconne arranged by Brahms for the left hand, and 2 wonderful Beethoven sonatas at a london concert. The audience was on its feet, as I was.Yes he is a phenomenon. No doubt about it. If I have any criticism it is this. His preparation is so meticulous that even his emotional levels are inbuilt into the practice. At times, for me, it feels that some of the spontaneity, that is so vital in performance, can be lost.
nevskixx 1 year ago
this is unbelievably masterful
eilbeef 1 year ago
It is the best pianist at the moment.
Tobi269 1 year ago
a singing performance,very nice
12345qazx1 1 year ago
I am no pro or something just a student who has to play this but I think this is just wonderfully performed. it's fast but in the way he plays it it suits, don't know why ^^
kinkajoes 1 year ago
@AntonioDGO
emotions are only raections, that shouldn't be the musicians aim. e.g. bachs music is much more then just "deep emotions". if the musician doesn't discover that and only does express his "deep emotions", there must be something wrong... but I think can hear sometimes more than just emotions when I listen to sokolov playing bach...but not always...
leoonaron 1 year ago
I like Sokolov´s interpretation better.
metteholm75 2 years ago 2
I'm used to Gould's interpretation, but this is very very different and very interesting!
hflvx 2 years ago
Indipendentemente dai gusti, non riesco a capire come si possa negare una semplice evidenza: è incredibile quello che fa!!! Ai criticoni (per ignoranza, per gelosia o ambo le cose) dico di fare di meglio e, di metterlo su youtube....Poi ne riparliamo...Facile parlare e criticare....
aelf29 2 years ago
interesting! this is a 'Toccata' after all, and I guess it is that technical aspect S. exploits, rather than the romanticised version we are used to hearing.
marcohorowitz8 2 years ago 2
Unfortunately, yet another musician playing Bach disrespectfully. Music is not an interesting toy to play with and I don't appreciate when people play Bach anywhere but from the heart. However, I would say that this recording is intellectually interesting and certainly skillful. And, of course, a unique interpretation is always welcome. I suppose.
aimson 2 years ago
Pitty this man doesnt make studio recordings. He is not only very good, but quite original is an interesting way..
He shows a different angle of structure
quinto34 2 years ago 2
sokolov qui veramente è meglio di gould, tempo da clavicembalista, chiarezza del fraseggio, il passaggio a 3.30 poi, con un mezzo piano, è semplicemente sublime. e poi bisogna dire che è dal vivo! tutti in piedi! anzi, in ginocchio...
dischetto 2 years ago 7
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Dear God, this is a disaster!
morvensky 2 years ago
MASTER.
kempff95 2 years ago 4
I have no qualms over Sokolov's tempo in this work, nor do other great musicians who take it at lesser tempos, need not sound out of place for me and can be just as satisfying. This performance is focused and masterly and brought back memories of his fine playing of it I heard at the Wigmore Hall in London.
nevskixx 2 years ago
I don't like this
I miss stylus fantasticus
michieldpiano 2 years ago
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Dinkyisland123 2 years ago
This sounds like i'm standin' out in a chair waiting for my dead seeing the beautiness of the sea.~
rockmusscarcella 2 years ago
from 3:27 the transition of the mood of phase is simply amazing and magical
jhc0907 2 years ago
much faster than i`m used to in the opening 2 pages but i`m completely convinced by Sokolov.
japanesesweet 2 years ago 4
Hi AntonioDGO
Thank you for posting an inspired performance by Sokolov. Someone finally got the tempo right!
Has everyone forgotten that Bach specifically chose to title this movement Toccata when he published the Partitas?
"Traditions" are ingrained bad habits.
It's "tradition" to play this piece so slowly you'd think the movement was a Sarabande instead of a virtuoso show piece.
Since when does a toccata proceed at a snail's pace?
Bravo, Sokolov, from a Harpsichordist.
Renshen1957 2 years ago 3
Bravo!!!
Again and again - I search proper words and cannot find them. Just, maybe, that THIS IS MUSIC by definition.
Babejuda 2 years ago 3
Sokolov is the only one who can create the music that can make people (whether they understand it or not) so Traumatic. This music is traumatic realization of "unimaginable itself."
jhc0907 2 years ago
Well and let to itself plays, but traditions Баха are eternal!!!
natalya7601 2 years ago
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Between us two the ignorant one is you, dummy!
musikguru1 2 years ago
Glenn Gould and Agi Jambor.
flute1982 2 years ago
Glen Gould's performance (as much as I admire his work) of the e minor opening movement is amongst his weakest interpretations, eccentric even for a player known for his eccentric performances.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
Glenn Gould and Agi Jambor.
flute1982 2 years ago
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ужас какой...какая-то карикатура на Баха
marsikpiano 2 years ago
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Fredobel51 2 years ago
Disagree, finally someone who plays the piece up to speed. It is after all a Toccata, not a dirge.
Renshen1957 2 years ago 5
interesante esta interpretacion.me agrada!
aleberni 2 years ago
Alcatus, thank you
leonicle 2 years ago
This piece was played a bit too romantically, not like the more restraint baroque style..
freeqwerqwer 2 years ago
In arts's matters we can't speak with sentences and absoluts. That's fascismo. You like or not of it .That's all. A performance like this only can be appreciate thru musical elements and with the ears of the soul
ERNESTOABO 2 years ago 4
Beautifully said - if more people understood this, a lot of the childish bickering on youtube about who's the best artist would cease!
troppofiato 2 years ago 8
ВЕЛИКИЙ ГРИША!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Такого ещё не было.
romkrasorg 2 years ago
ВЕЛИКИЙ ГРИША!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
romkrasorg 2 years ago
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veraemick 2 years ago
Соколов лучше всех играет Баха!
iramoscow 2 years ago
Григорий Липманович лучше всех играет!!! и не только Баха...!!!
veraemick 2 years ago 2
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aomf58 2 years ago
For someone like Sokolov, a great artist and interpreter, there is no right or wrong way to play the music of Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, or whathaveyou, there's just his way. He plays with total conviction, a fresh insight, and original style. You can't take anything away from this exquisite playing. He's different from the Horowitz's, Goulds, and Guldas and that's they it should be. This is an amazing performance. I haven't heard a recording of him that I dislike. Watch him live in Paris. Great.
ellihaysee 2 years ago 32
@ellihaysee it's fine if you like Brahms
flurmflam 1 year ago
@ellihaysee BRAVO!! exactly right.
davecotuit 11 months ago
There is one mental virus that is lamentably common among listeners, and its symptoms are these: close-mindedness, narrow mindedness, ignorance, arrogance, conceitedness, intolerance of the unfamiliar or new, and rudeness.
Alcatus 2 years ago 6
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one feels the urge to listen to goulds version of this piece in order to cleanse oneself
eek4rus 2 years ago
Or to take a laxative to relieve oneself after listening to Gould's version.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
All of you who don't appreciate Sokolov's performance, please say that in front him, if you still can look through his eyes directly. This is the most amazing performance for me. The integrity is dense. His performance always holds my breath like the first time I experienced his recordings.
jhc0907 2 years ago 23
@jhc0907 Anche se è conosciuto come un grande pianista, non deve piacere a tutti, per forza. Ho notato che ha una visione molto personale e anche molto ostinata, su certe opere pianistiche. Ho sentito eseguire William Byrd, Rameau e Francois Couperin con troppo impeto percussivo. Inoltre è da molto tempo che non suona più con orchestre, e non ho mai sentito suonare assieme a quartetti d'archi, o con cantanti o altri solisti. Cosa ne pensi ?
darkblueangel1956 7 months ago
You should hear Sokolov play Beethoven or Rachmaninov if you really think he's that robotic and heartless. With those two composers, he not only plays with that subliminal beauty, but the structure and form of his interpretations are obviously magnificent too.
KhagarBalugrak 2 years ago
Well, Sokolov certainly doesn't play this piece like people typically play Bach. He doesn't specifically express lyricism, or the unfoldment of the themes of the piece. Nevertheless, something about the way he plays is magnificent, even here, in this recording. It's not something that can be heard in the form and structure of his interpretation, it's something subliminal.
KhagarBalugrak 2 years ago 3
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Technically amazing. But what the hell was he thinking?
PointyTail 3 years ago
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You said it right on!
BachScholar 3 years ago
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This is so impersonal and inhuman sounding, like a robot. There's no sense of mystery or expression. It's technically superb though. But is playing Bach only about technical perfection? I'm afraid to say it's much too fast also. And if you are angry and disagree with me please don't visit my channel and bombard my videos with bad comments as some angry people have done in the past. Instead, go to my website and have a lesson on Bach's tempos.
BachScholar 3 years ago
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Cannot agree with you more!! Totally moronic playing! The man has no idea of what Bach is. I don't understand what the whole world is hearing when it says that Sokolov's playing is "Cosmic". If "cosmos' is a vast empty space then I agree 100%: Sokolov is 100% cosmic!
astroedic 3 years ago
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astroedic: It's nice that at least someone shares my views. It seems my opinions are very unpopular at times and I get a lot of hate mail because of it. Sokolov's Goldberg Variations are inhuman also. So is the gigue from Partita 4. My god, have a listen to this gigue for a totally cosmic experience!
BachScholar 3 years ago
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it is not easy to have a different opinion from majority. But also think, that the vast majority of listeners have no ears and no brains. Then, it is pretty neat to belong to the opposite 1% of the population. Congratulations to you!
astroedic 3 years ago
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pirroligurio 3 years ago
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"Toccata" does not necessarily mean fast, at least for Bach and earlier music. That meaning came into usage around the time of Czerny. A toccata in Bach's time meant more of an improvisatory-type piece with perhaps some fast flourishes but not necessarily a fast or allegro tempo. Bach often used the title "Toccata" as synonymous with "Prelude". Actually, this piece is more of an andante style than allegro and it sounds much better that way. Not really slow, but a moving kind of andante.
BachScholar 3 years ago
this is simply unfounded and untrue! Firstly if you read sources such as Durr current evidence strongly suggests that it is very difficult to determine the tempos in Bach's works. Certainly much has to be done with looking at the counterpoint Bach manipulates. However, the toccata bwv 916 is marked presto... this is just 1 example!
kingjonnyvii 2 years ago 6
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Of course toccatas CAN be fast or presto, but the word "toccata" in 1730 had a much different meaning than in 1830 when it had acquired its current meaning that we are all familiar with. This is not a fast piece, but Sokolov plays it fast and robotically. I've determined the tempos in all Bach's works and boldly claim I'm the only one in history to do so. See my website for more information.
BachScholar 2 years ago
Well the concept of playing Schumann tempo (faster, faster, and faster still) dates from the 1830's, but a slow interpretation of Toccata's have more in common with the 17th than the 18th century. I couldn't imagine either the Toccata & Fugue BWV 565 or the Dorian Toccata being played slowly. One of Galuppi's Toccata is marked Presto. There is also the difference between the N. German Toccata of Buxtehude and the S. German Toccata of Pachelbel. Bach knew both. Neither are pedestrian.
Renshen1957 2 years ago
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pirroligurio 3 years ago
this is unbelievable..
JanaHeide 3 years ago
The best pianist alive. Great artist and musician. True living legend.
vladimirgligoric 3 years ago 2
where is the secon part?
amirmot 3 years ago
This is AMAZING.
pyroprince78 3 years ago
Talk about making harpsichord sound on the piano! Fantastic clarity!
upka619 3 years ago
Struggente e perduto, bravo Sokolov.
enantiodrom 3 years ago
Wow! How original and convincing at the same time! I can't believe it has been rated down to 4 stars! But of course, should have remembered what sort of public attends YT Bach performances. Probably all Gould's groupies. :-)
mltube 3 years ago
Yes, the one that played when Sokolov was in his 20s. Unbelievable Chopin.... unbelievable delicacy and harmony. What can I say more?
jhc0907 3 years ago
I'll be looking for his Bachian recordings.
Any suggestion is welcome.
indigoblue555 3 years ago
Try the Art of Fugue. Best of the best, plus an unbelievable rendition of Partita 2.
equinoxxx 3 years ago
equinoxxx - HI!
I recently had the chance to get the Goldberg Variations by Ramin Bahrami recorded Feb.2002
in Le Chaux De Fond Switzerland-according to my taste a heavenly rendition.
Thx.for infos.and kind regards.
indigoblue555 3 years ago
no not Mazurkas. I have them. It was scriabin sonatas
chad410 3 years ago
This is Bolzano recital 8 may 2004, isn't it?
jhc0907 3 years ago
where did you get these traesuress?
chad410 3 years ago