@Originalman320 What he teaches is myth and superstition, passed on by men just as deluded as he is. Men who make their living selling lies and false hope to those whose misfortunes have kept them from learning otherwise. If you want to learn about Christmas, or anything else, you'll need to look further than scripture.
@BitJKar Please. Tell me where in scripture does it talk about some damn fat cracker in a red suit flying in a sleigh. There is nothing that's a lie spoken in this vvideo. Either point out the lie with the hard truth, or don't open your damn mouth.
I would be very surprised if a reference to Santa Clause, Saint Nicholas, etc. was found in the Holy Book of any Abrahamic religion. That would imply idol worship, which is generally frowned upon by fundamentalists of each of its faiths respectively. The Pagan influences on the Christmas holiday are well established in secular literature. The issue is the fact that the minister is taking advantage of these facts to make Islam seem better by comparison, which is salesmanship at its finest.
How about the supposed conversation between the Devil and God, neither of which have been shown to exist outside of scripture? 1:18-1:40 What about the Straightness and Rightness of 'God's Prophets', men who may not have existed at all, and even if they had, would be no less divine than the men and women who existed with them or, for that matter, exist today. "Cause them all to deviate..." Deviation from scripture is evil, and will be punished by damnation. Sounds like a dictator to me.
@BitJKar There's nothing wrong with a dictatorship. Your parents if they were good parents were dictators. It's wrong when the dictator becomes a tyrant. Basically, no matter what I say, you're holing on to your disbelief in God. To be perfectly honest, your presence on this clip is a nuisance. I don't go to atheist video clips talking about God. Why the hell are you even here? This conversation is done. No further response is needed, or WANTED from you.
@BitJKar Like I said, if your parents were worth anything as parents, they didn't give you a choice as far as what time to go to bed. Naturally you didn't read the part about tyranny. Dictatorships are not inherently evil. It's when it's a tyranny when it becomes a problem. I'm not going to dignify the Jew remark with a response. It further confirms your ignorance, and my desire for you NOT to respond further to me. Yet you do so again. Now respect my wishes, and don't reply.
@BitJKar The only ones making a living selling lies is the ones that were/are selling lies about this false day in the name of Jesus. If you really read scripture, you'd know that Jesus couldn't possibly be born in the month of December, much less on the 25th day. Tell me what the hell does the Christmas ham have to do with Jesus. Jesus NEVER touched the flesh of the swine in his life.
Again, I do not disagree with the assertion that Jesus was not born on the 25th of December. That date coincides with Yule, the Pagan winter festival, which later became more commonly referred to as Christmas. The fact that Jesus existed at all is a subject of debate everywhere except in the realm of Abrahamic Theology. There is no other historical reference to Jesus outside of the Qur'an or the Bible, nor in either text is there an accurate recording of his daily diet.
@BitJKar Google doesn't mean a damn thing to me. Not everything on the internet is authentic. I take anything on google, or anything with a grain of salt. You still haven't pointed out anything he said was a lie. Bring ONE thing that shows what he says is a lie. Otherwise, don't make any damn comment. You've been skating around that for the longest.
@BitJKar Yes there was a Jesus. for a believer, there is no question about it. Have you read every text? If you haven't (and we know that you haven't) how do you know there's no history of Jesus' existence? What's written in the Bible and the Holy Qur'an isn't talking about the actual Jesus that lived 2,000 years ago.
Am I to suppose that you yourself have read every text? Can you recite each line of information from the few books that claim to cite the existence of Christ, which were written hundreds of years after his supposed life and teachings? What about the texts that refute his existence? Can you recite those as well? You're right. For a believer there are no questions about lots of things. Some people call it faith. I call it slavery.
@BitJKar By the way, the Bible's references to Jesus is not referring to the man that lived 2,000 years ago. It's symbolic references to a man in a future time under the name Jesus. Jesus of 2,000 years ago was not the Messiah. He was only a prophet.
Bro. Ishmael has grown exponentially. He is a superior student. An excellent example of the program of the Nation Of Islam. When I see him , I am inspired tremendously.
there will come a time when whomever ALLAH and the Minister chooses to speak the word after he is gone. those caught up in idol worshp will fall to The Min. prepares you now so follow his command.
Minister Ishmael has grown into a very knowledgeable speaker. You can get caught up in personalities or you will miss boat. This man is the future of the Nation, he has grown in understandin and he is the direct decendent of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Allah has gifted this man with a knowledge that will carry the Nation into the 21 century.
THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN SAID PREVIOUSLY THAT THE SEATS SHOULD BE PACKED IN THE HOUSE WHEN MIN.ISHMAEL SPEAKS. WE SHOULDN'T JUST COME OUT ONLY WHEN FARRAKHAN SPEAKS. HE SAID THIS MORE THEN 4 TIMES IN THE PAST 2 MONTHS. WE SHOULD TAKE HEED TO WHAT OUR BELOVED MINISTER IS SAYING. WE'RE AREN'T NURI WORSHIPERS, FARRAKHAN WORSHIPERS OR SIS AVA WORSHIPERS. WE SHOULD LISTEN TO ALL OF OUR MINISTERS AND ESPECIALLY THE MAN OF THE HOUR WHEN HE GIVES AN ORDER.
Minister Farrakhan has an excellent delivery, but Bro. Ishmael is very good as well. We can't get caught up in personality worshiping. We have to accept the truth from wherever it comes from, and the Minister always says he's proud of the way Bro. Ishmael teaches.
It's a good thing he didn't cite any other sources than the Qur'an or the Bible, otherwise I might have had to take him seriously.
BitJKar 3 months ago
@BitJKar You should take him seriously, because what he teaches is the truth.
Originalman320 2 months ago
@Originalman320 What he teaches is myth and superstition, passed on by men just as deluded as he is. Men who make their living selling lies and false hope to those whose misfortunes have kept them from learning otherwise. If you want to learn about Christmas, or anything else, you'll need to look further than scripture.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar Please. Tell me where in scripture does it talk about some damn fat cracker in a red suit flying in a sleigh. There is nothing that's a lie spoken in this vvideo. Either point out the lie with the hard truth, or don't open your damn mouth.
Originalman320 2 months ago
I would be very surprised if a reference to Santa Clause, Saint Nicholas, etc. was found in the Holy Book of any Abrahamic religion. That would imply idol worship, which is generally frowned upon by fundamentalists of each of its faiths respectively. The Pagan influences on the Christmas holiday are well established in secular literature. The issue is the fact that the minister is taking advantage of these facts to make Islam seem better by comparison, which is salesmanship at its finest.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar You still haven't pointed out anything he said was false. Either do that, or keep your damn mouth shut.
Originalman320 2 months ago
How about the supposed conversation between the Devil and God, neither of which have been shown to exist outside of scripture? 1:18-1:40 What about the Straightness and Rightness of 'God's Prophets', men who may not have existed at all, and even if they had, would be no less divine than the men and women who existed with them or, for that matter, exist today. "Cause them all to deviate..." Deviation from scripture is evil, and will be punished by damnation. Sounds like a dictator to me.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar There's nothing wrong with a dictatorship. Your parents if they were good parents were dictators. It's wrong when the dictator becomes a tyrant. Basically, no matter what I say, you're holing on to your disbelief in God. To be perfectly honest, your presence on this clip is a nuisance. I don't go to atheist video clips talking about God. Why the hell are you even here? This conversation is done. No further response is needed, or WANTED from you.
Originalman320 2 months ago
Nothing wrong with a dictatorship... have you forgotten about Nazi Germany? No, I suppose that would be a good thing for Islam. Fewer Jews and all.
You're right. I have overstayed what welcome there was to be had. Christmas is long done, after all.
Happy new year, by the way. My best regards to you and yours.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar Like I said, if your parents were worth anything as parents, they didn't give you a choice as far as what time to go to bed. Naturally you didn't read the part about tyranny. Dictatorships are not inherently evil. It's when it's a tyranny when it becomes a problem. I'm not going to dignify the Jew remark with a response. It further confirms your ignorance, and my desire for you NOT to respond further to me. Yet you do so again. Now respect my wishes, and don't reply.
Originalman320 2 months ago
@BitJKar The only ones making a living selling lies is the ones that were/are selling lies about this false day in the name of Jesus. If you really read scripture, you'd know that Jesus couldn't possibly be born in the month of December, much less on the 25th day. Tell me what the hell does the Christmas ham have to do with Jesus. Jesus NEVER touched the flesh of the swine in his life.
Originalman320 2 months ago
Again, I do not disagree with the assertion that Jesus was not born on the 25th of December. That date coincides with Yule, the Pagan winter festival, which later became more commonly referred to as Christmas. The fact that Jesus existed at all is a subject of debate everywhere except in the realm of Abrahamic Theology. There is no other historical reference to Jesus outside of the Qur'an or the Bible, nor in either text is there an accurate recording of his daily diet.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar Really? Says who?
Originalman320 2 months ago
Just Google "Did Jesus Exist". You'll find a number of sound arguments backed by both scripture and non-religious historical documents.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar Google doesn't mean a damn thing to me. Not everything on the internet is authentic. I take anything on google, or anything with a grain of salt. You still haven't pointed out anything he said was a lie. Bring ONE thing that shows what he says is a lie. Otherwise, don't make any damn comment. You've been skating around that for the longest.
Originalman320 2 months ago
@BitJKar Yes there was a Jesus. for a believer, there is no question about it. Have you read every text? If you haven't (and we know that you haven't) how do you know there's no history of Jesus' existence? What's written in the Bible and the Holy Qur'an isn't talking about the actual Jesus that lived 2,000 years ago.
Originalman320 2 months ago
Am I to suppose that you yourself have read every text? Can you recite each line of information from the few books that claim to cite the existence of Christ, which were written hundreds of years after his supposed life and teachings? What about the texts that refute his existence? Can you recite those as well? You're right. For a believer there are no questions about lots of things. Some people call it faith. I call it slavery.
BitJKar 2 months ago
@BitJKar I see where you coming from. You don't believe in any of this. By the way, there's nothing I've read that refutes the existence of Jesus.
Originalman320 2 months ago
@BitJKar By the way, the Bible's references to Jesus is not referring to the man that lived 2,000 years ago. It's symbolic references to a man in a future time under the name Jesus. Jesus of 2,000 years ago was not the Messiah. He was only a prophet.
Originalman320 2 months ago
@BitJKar I'm still waiting on you to show where he's lying. Since you haven't (and you can't) why the hell are you still talking?
Originalman320 2 months ago
he has it mixed up. it is the summer solstice and winter equinox
fnels07 5 months ago
Bro. Ishmael has grown exponentially. He is a superior student. An excellent example of the program of the Nation Of Islam. When I see him , I am inspired tremendously.
Muhammmad1000 11 months ago
there will come a time when whomever ALLAH and the Minister chooses to speak the word after he is gone. those caught up in idol worshp will fall to The Min. prepares you now so follow his command.
takkeedadon 1 year ago
Minister Ishmael has grown into a very knowledgeable speaker. You can get caught up in personalities or you will miss boat. This man is the future of the Nation, he has grown in understandin and he is the direct decendent of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Allah has gifted this man with a knowledge that will carry the Nation into the 21 century.
mudslingers1234 1 year ago
THE HONORABLE MINISTER LOUIS FARRAKHAN SAID PREVIOUSLY THAT THE SEATS SHOULD BE PACKED IN THE HOUSE WHEN MIN.ISHMAEL SPEAKS. WE SHOULDN'T JUST COME OUT ONLY WHEN FARRAKHAN SPEAKS. HE SAID THIS MORE THEN 4 TIMES IN THE PAST 2 MONTHS. WE SHOULD TAKE HEED TO WHAT OUR BELOVED MINISTER IS SAYING. WE'RE AREN'T NURI WORSHIPERS, FARRAKHAN WORSHIPERS OR SIS AVA WORSHIPERS. WE SHOULD LISTEN TO ALL OF OUR MINISTERS AND ESPECIALLY THE MAN OF THE HOUR WHEN HE GIVES AN ORDER.
Emassenbur 1 year ago 5
@Emassenbur
Well said!
Ahmad770 1 year ago
I want to hear Mr. Farrakhan speak, I LUV how he delivers!
nakeist 1 year ago
@nakeist
Minister Farrakhan has an excellent delivery, but Bro. Ishmael is very good as well. We can't get caught up in personality worshiping. We have to accept the truth from wherever it comes from, and the Minister always says he's proud of the way Bro. Ishmael teaches.
Ahmad770 1 year ago 9
I like this lecture alot..really good information
CallieShabazz123 1 year ago 4