Go on an SIV (manouevres) course with a good instructor before attempting anything like this. A full stall is an excellent way to get yourself out of trouble (crevats etc) but is potentially deadly if you do not release the brakes at the correct time. Once you start taking the glider out of its normal flying characteristics it will move very quickly and sometimes violently; You need adequate training .Its no good thinking you can learn this from a book ... get proper training. Do an SIV course.
Yes, better to open the reserve a little to early, seen too many people try to recover and deploying to late. If he had to do stalls thats another question but he is ok so everything is good.
I think his wing was just about to recover fully when he stopped futzing with the controls and was getting the reserve out. Remember, let the wing FLY. When your wing is starting to fly again after a full stall recovery - assuming you don't have riser twists or bad crevattes - just go hands up. A couple more seconds and it would have been fine.
Yeah, never second-guess a reserve toss, but he definitely should have pulled B's, Brakes, D's or a stabilo - whatever it takes to kill your wing!
The wing was revoverable - he had loads of height - he panicked and chucked the reserve then panicked some more and left his wing flying. Should a pilot of such limited experience be doing full stalls? I think not
@armandin2048 As far as I know paragliders can't cut-away their main canopy. When you say he left his wing flying, what would have been the proper reaction?
No, but normally they don't downplane so easily and paragliders are trained to get the wing under control once their round is out. PGs often fly lower so a cutaway presents risks, and of course the reserve is a round.
Couple of things: 1) get a better Glider, 2) Don't use a hook knife like some one mentioned unless you land in the water, As soon as you deploy your reserve Grab your A risers and pull the glider in, that will stops the Scissors effect and you land safely with out any swinging effect.
3) Go and do an SIV course. 4) If you still want to do Full-stalls take a wrap cos it looked like the lines are too long on that glider. And release when the glider is in front of you.
You don't need a hook knife for this, just grab the b risers or even the As. The pilot did not react well. PGs usually don't fly with hook knoves (I don't know a single pilot who does, even on an SIV clinic).
its been said more than once, usually when a pilot throws the reserve the wings starts flying. reason... they stopped yanking the brakes in a panic! the wing recovers and does what it was intended to do. cant see if it was intentional full stall, however, legs were flying everywhere, should be crossed and tucked under harness. should he have tossed the laundry? its an individual decision.. should have pulled the b-lines and stalled the wing afterwards though...
he started to turn in stall..reserve was right decision. after opening of reserve,canopy fulled wit air. but he was twist off. couldnt reach to the lines to engage the canopy ?????
The main question is Why he got into fullstall? I belive this is an old canopy, in the right turn he polled a negative. In the backslide the pilot pulled the left brake (over) started a fullstall ( a biut ove pulled) and from that moment he was hanging on the brakes. If the brakes would have been uprised the glider could fly again. There was altitude enough for this. Of course, when the rescue is out, the main could have been collected by pulling tha brake or B lines. He was lucky.
A lot of these deployments worry me in that the pilots are not getting their wing out of the way. The first thing I learned was to pull in one end of the glider and grab a piece of the wing to keep it from interfering with the reserve. Basic, but they're not doing it. Makes me wonder about some instructors out there.
Looked like he was in a tail slide, to much brake past stall im guessing. Killing the canopy would have been good to do but i cant see if his hand were restricted stopping him from doing it. Lucky guy!
when he was in backfly his reaction was too "brutal" so the glider turns negative and he gets some twist. If you have a twist you are not able to do something with your breakes. If you are high enough you can push with your hands against the lines over the twist to turn yourself in right position again, otherwise it's better to throw the reserve.
And when you have thrown the reserve you should "destroy" your canopy. For example you can pull the breaks or pull the B - lines to make your glider unable to fly. Otherwise (like you can see in ths video) the glider and the reserve work against each other and you will hit the ground harder then expected.
Ok as you can see he has NEVER let the wing flying after the full stall ... he has never raised his hand!!! Notice that as soon he trows the reserve (so he leaves the brakes) the wing start flying again...
It depends on how high you're at when the stall occurs. How much experience you have with stalls. How well you know your wing. Your tolerance level for how long you can stand falling without a functioning wing. etc... There's no one correct answer to mirzayousef's question accept for "chuck the laundry" before you hit the soon to be bloody ground;)
I flew into a rotor at 1000 feet, back in the days when reserves were just being introduced. The first signs were the controls stoped responding and everything just paused, as the glider started to lose its grip in the sky once a certain speed down was achieved a swing effect started there were about 5-6 of these. A French pilot once said to me better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground ;)
"better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground" ... Yeah man, that is a common saying in skydiving in the US. Sucks to be coming in under canopy watching the wind sock whipping around like mad.
it looks like he got some riser twists but the full stall itself was almost an in between stable full stall and a full stall - did he release the brakes assym to recover? Anyway to answer your question .. dont know - i can tell you that many reserve deployments can result in the canopy recovering.
Yes you can recover from a full stall. Looks like the wing went parachutal. You can fix that by getting on the A risers to try to recover but there's a chance it was unrecoverable. Modern wings recover very easily from this and the danger is the surge after stall the recovery, but it's difficult to be sure what his problem was based on the video.
The importance of carrying a hook knife. Every skydiver knows this.
ohrian 3 months ago
huy very stupid pilot
laperraf17 10 months ago
Go on an SIV (manouevres) course with a good instructor before attempting anything like this. A full stall is an excellent way to get yourself out of trouble (crevats etc) but is potentially deadly if you do not release the brakes at the correct time. Once you start taking the glider out of its normal flying characteristics it will move very quickly and sometimes violently; You need adequate training .Its no good thinking you can learn this from a book ... get proper training. Do an SIV course.
jeremyoncloud9 1 year ago
pull C lines so the glider flies no more
drumatic86 1 year ago
Did no one teach him that after you deploy reserve you should keep the wing collapsed?
yoshyoka 1 year ago
Not to much too say, he deplyed the reserve a bit too early...but it's experience that turns us into better pilots, better men :-D
i'm sure he'll have much better self control next time !
Cheers from Norway
erikborgersen 1 year ago
Sweet Double Spin Move !
Never saw anyone use the Reserve like this :D
Nilz4FR 1 year ago
Yes, better to open the reserve a little to early, seen too many people try to recover and deploying to late. If he had to do stalls thats another question but he is ok so everything is good.
xy1000ch 1 year ago
I think his wing was just about to recover fully when he stopped futzing with the controls and was getting the reserve out. Remember, let the wing FLY. When your wing is starting to fly again after a full stall recovery - assuming you don't have riser twists or bad crevattes - just go hands up. A couple more seconds and it would have been fine.
Yeah, never second-guess a reserve toss, but he definitely should have pulled B's, Brakes, D's or a stabilo - whatever it takes to kill your wing!
climb1028 1 year ago
JESUS!
navalseabass 2 years ago
@navalseabass iranian people does not beleave in jesus!so it can not help in this case!
TheVladomo 1 year ago
looks like synchro-spiral, but with only one pilot.
whata fool, why is he holding the full stall that long?
TheDaveOmat 2 years ago 5
lucky bastard lol
MaxxDiver 2 years ago
b-stall after reserve ; -)
flavio5946 2 years ago 2
Awfully asmmetric!
smad333 2 years ago
Looked like quite a low descent rate with the glider doing a slow SAT and the reserve swinging out wide.
MartinCowley 2 years ago
How would you recover the canopy in a situation like that?
Hickeydog2365 2 years ago
super video interessant sur le plan technique (tonneau barriqué pour le secours)
carlofabienne 2 years ago
omg. wieso holt der den gleitschirm nicht ein. wo der ihn gezogen hat wars noch nicht mal kritisch. hat wohl den sicherheitskurs verschlafen.
satandergast 2 years ago
he's alive, he deployed his reserve when he had to, no reason to criticize the pilot.
It's easy for us to watch a vid to and be a back seat driver, but when SHTF, reserve is ALWAYS a good decision, nothing to lose there.
For those of you talking about hook knife....please ask instead of making stupid comments. Hook knives don't belong in paraglider pilot's tool shed.
alexsakon 2 years ago 2
The wing was revoverable - he had loads of height - he panicked and chucked the reserve then panicked some more and left his wing flying. Should a pilot of such limited experience be doing full stalls? I think not
armandin2048 2 years ago 9
@armandin2048 As far as I know paragliders can't cut-away their main canopy. When you say he left his wing flying, what would have been the proper reaction?
fenix159 1 year ago
take it you dont fly over water then?
MrOldsk8r 2 years ago
Is there no cutaway option, like on a skydiving system? Seems pretty stupid...
NewHouseDK 3 years ago
No, but normally they don't downplane so easily and paragliders are trained to get the wing under control once their round is out. PGs often fly lower so a cutaway presents risks, and of course the reserve is a round.
dorbie 3 years ago 2
Couple of things: 1) get a better Glider, 2) Don't use a hook knife like some one mentioned unless you land in the water, As soon as you deploy your reserve Grab your A risers and pull the glider in, that will stops the Scissors effect and you land safely with out any swinging effect.
3) Go and do an SIV course. 4) If you still want to do Full-stalls take a wrap cos it looked like the lines are too long on that glider. And release when the glider is in front of you.
HollywoodAcro 3 years ago
With that ammount of time, were was his hook knife? Get rid of the paraglider and allow the reserve to "fly" down on its own.
tanyano9 3 years ago
You don't need a hook knife for this, just grab the b risers or even the As. The pilot did not react well. PGs usually don't fly with hook knoves (I don't know a single pilot who does, even on an SIV clinic).
dorbie 3 years ago
its been said more than once, usually when a pilot throws the reserve the wings starts flying. reason... they stopped yanking the brakes in a panic! the wing recovers and does what it was intended to do. cant see if it was intentional full stall, however, legs were flying everywhere, should be crossed and tucked under harness. should he have tossed the laundry? its an individual decision.. should have pulled the b-lines and stalled the wing afterwards though...
itripledareyaaa 3 years ago
dont even think of recovering that glider.. save your life first
grayfang 3 years ago
bet he was shitin' bricks
JasonHam41 3 years ago 2
Yeah you are true after we reached him we see he is totaly confused his mind was freez so he cant do any thing to recover from full stall.
mirzayousef 3 years ago
he started to turn in stall..reserve was right decision. after opening of reserve,canopy fulled wit air. but he was twist off. couldnt reach to the lines to engage the canopy ?????
savatage75 4 years ago
The main question is Why he got into fullstall? I belive this is an old canopy, in the right turn he polled a negative. In the backslide the pilot pulled the left brake (over) started a fullstall ( a biut ove pulled) and from that moment he was hanging on the brakes. If the brakes would have been uprised the glider could fly again. There was altitude enough for this. Of course, when the rescue is out, the main could have been collected by pulling tha brake or B lines. He was lucky.
majoott 4 years ago
Its a new wing, look at the design windtech i believe. He couldnt pull the wing in as the lines were twisted so all as one not easy to pull.
acropat 4 years ago
A lot of these deployments worry me in that the pilots are not getting their wing out of the way. The first thing I learned was to pull in one end of the glider and grab a piece of the wing to keep it from interfering with the reserve. Basic, but they're not doing it. Makes me wonder about some instructors out there.
parachiahuahua 4 years ago
Looked like he was in a tail slide, to much brake past stall im guessing. Killing the canopy would have been good to do but i cant see if his hand were restricted stopping him from doing it. Lucky guy!
0eden0 4 years ago
when he was in backfly his reaction was too "brutal" so the glider turns negative and he gets some twist. If you have a twist you are not able to do something with your breakes. If you are high enough you can push with your hands against the lines over the twist to turn yourself in right position again, otherwise it's better to throw the reserve.
Laisch 4 years ago
And when you have thrown the reserve you should "destroy" your canopy. For example you can pull the breaks or pull the B - lines to make your glider unable to fly. Otherwise (like you can see in ths video) the glider and the reserve work against each other and you will hit the ground harder then expected.
Laisch 4 years ago
Ok as you can see he has NEVER let the wing flying after the full stall ... he has never raised his hand!!! Notice that as soon he trows the reserve (so he leaves the brakes) the wing start flying again...
plimauro 4 years ago
It depends on how high you're at when the stall occurs. How much experience you have with stalls. How well you know your wing. Your tolerance level for how long you can stand falling without a functioning wing. etc... There's no one correct answer to mirzayousef's question accept for "chuck the laundry" before you hit the soon to be bloody ground;)
Kinthesky1 4 years ago
I flew into a rotor at 1000 feet, back in the days when reserves were just being introduced. The first signs were the controls stoped responding and everything just paused, as the glider started to lose its grip in the sky once a certain speed down was achieved a swing effect started there were about 5-6 of these. A French pilot once said to me better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground ;)
AddictiveFZ1 4 years ago
"better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground" ... Yeah man, that is a common saying in skydiving in the US. Sucks to be coming in under canopy watching the wind sock whipping around like mad.
WelcomeToMyDream 3 years ago
it looks like he got some riser twists but the full stall itself was almost an in between stable full stall and a full stall - did he release the brakes assym to recover? Anyway to answer your question .. dont know - i can tell you that many reserve deployments can result in the canopy recovering.
johno040176 5 years ago 2
if you are paraglider pilot I like to know your comments about the film , can he survive from the sull stall with out reserve or not?
mirzayousef 5 years ago
I'm just a beginner but as far as I know you can
recover from a full stall if you have enough altitude.
If you are low, you should deploy the reserve.
kurittaja 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
he survived wich is all that matters, but other then that he is a dumb ass
vonlubcke 4 years ago
Yes you can recover from a full stall. Looks like the wing went parachutal. You can fix that by getting on the A risers to try to recover but there's a chance it was unrecoverable. Modern wings recover very easily from this and the danger is the surge after stall the recovery, but it's difficult to be sure what his problem was based on the video.
dorbie 3 years ago
@mirzayousef yes he could, but you need more training to do a good, controlled stall. For that you need to learn the flyback point of your wing.
cruelangeltesis 1 year ago