Does anyone know what the full consist (what type of cars it has diner/bag dorm/slumbercoach and in order) was for the Lake Shore Limited for that time between Albany, NY and Chicago, IL?
I was looking at the archived Amtrak timetables and i was laughing at the Lakeshore Limited's innagural schedule. departed Grand Central Terminal (and yes that is accurate) at 615pm and arrived in chicago 240pm. horrible timing. 20h35m is about normal for the train to run but the arrival time is so late how can anyone connect with long distance trains in Chicago if most of them are gone by 2pm (except the city of new orleans which leaves at 8pm.)
At Albany both trains are combined. This was shot at Silver Creek, NY. I don't know which symbol it carries west of Albany, NY, either 48 or 448. But this is both trains together.
Very nice video and superb sound. One possible correction: This looks like #48, which is the train that terminates in NYC: #448 is the Boston section which usually had 1 sleeper, 2 coaches, 1 snack bar coach, 1 baggage car, and, at one time, some mail cars.
I've just came back from Vancover B.C. on VIA's Canadian Rockies Overnight Train & all they've had was Heritige Cars & they were beautiful (i was in coach) comfortable, And accually afforable around this time (but in advance), But once i got onthe U.S. side I saw the newer amfleet cars. They're comfortable..,But not heritige comfortable. Great Video. My Friend. I Love Train Trips LOL!
Wow! How I miss those Heritage Fleet cars on the Silver Meteor and Silver Star. Bigger, more spacious, and much better riding qualities than the ultra light-weight Amfleet cars (Amcans!).
I worked on this train for 1.5 years. This train number is 48 not 448. The train number was 448 only when the leg was ALB to Boston. The NYP section continued as 48.
And the same for 449, when it hooked up with the NYP end it became 49. They couldn't bring the dome cars to BOS because of the clearance at the Muddy River bridge, 2 inches to high. I really miss working on it.
You said you believe this was taken in summer 1994. That makes sense. Heritage coaches came back in February 1994, so what I'm saying doesn't conflict with the video.
Actually I rode the Lake Shore Limited from Buffalo to Albany with my dad on Saturday 9/11/93 and it had all heritage coaches. We rode in coach 4711, the first coach in the NYC section immediately behind dining car 8510.
Heritage coaches only made appearances on the Lake Shore when a really late train meant the cleaning crews didn't have time to clean the Amfleet coaches.
Nice Video, I miss the F40 Locomotives too, but the horn didn't sound right on the lead locomotive though, sounded like there was water stuck in the horns too.
wait is that a P5 horn or is that a K5la with a high pitch to it. i looked closely to the F40's roof in the video and it didnt look like a k5la but it might have been a p5
It was probably a p5. Amtrak's first 30 F40s delivered, #'s 200-229, were delivered with p5s. F40's #230-415 were delivered with K5LAs. So the lead F40 is probably between #200-229.
AWESOME VIDEO!!! Classic Lake Shore Limited at its finest! Do you remember when you shot this video?? I'm guessing sometime in the early 90's. That location off Rte. 5 in Silver Creek is one of the best spots in WNY to watch trains.
Amtrak used the dome on the Lake Shore between early May 1994 and late September 1994. However, one of the domes was lost in an accident and, therefore, one equipment set didn't have a dome.
I wish I was around longer to have seen more, but I am thankful that I have been able to see a few years ago on the San Diegan service. (Right before Surfliner transition!)
Alright I'll see I can change this and correct it, thank you.
supertouring 4 months ago
Does anyone know what the full consist (what type of cars it has diner/bag dorm/slumbercoach and in order) was for the Lake Shore Limited for that time between Albany, NY and Chicago, IL?
AmtrakSilverStar 5 months ago
Why is it that our Eastern long distance trains are so short now?
JuiceJackNut 8 months ago
I was looking at the archived Amtrak timetables and i was laughing at the Lakeshore Limited's innagural schedule. departed Grand Central Terminal (and yes that is accurate) at 615pm and arrived in chicago 240pm. horrible timing. 20h35m is about normal for the train to run but the arrival time is so late how can anyone connect with long distance trains in Chicago if most of them are gone by 2pm (except the city of new orleans which leaves at 8pm.)
howardkevinm 9 months ago
At Albany both trains are combined. This was shot at Silver Creek, NY. I don't know which symbol it carries west of Albany, NY, either 48 or 448. But this is both trains together.
supertouring 9 months ago
@supertouring west of Albany it is Amtrak 48. east of Albany it is Amtrak 448
aj21101 4 months ago
Very nice video and superb sound. One possible correction: This looks like #48, which is the train that terminates in NYC: #448 is the Boston section which usually had 1 sleeper, 2 coaches, 1 snack bar coach, 1 baggage car, and, at one time, some mail cars.
amtrakatsfnyc 9 months ago
also great horn on the f40
TheMattsbro 11 months ago
this was on fury of the f40ph
TheMattsbro 11 months ago
kinda sounds like a P horn
kevinb721 11 months ago
Wow! Nice horn. It sounds almost like a K5LA when it goes by and the pitch lowers.
amtrak706 1 year ago
That was the biggest piece shit Amtrak ran back in the mid 90's. I worked on it....
goodeye03 1 year ago
early to mid 90's
supertouring 2 years ago
whats the year here fella?
LackawannaLtdVideos 2 years ago
awesome horn 5*
bileciarz 2 years ago
Hmm...I never knew that some of the F40s had P5s on them. Nice sound.
fafnir242 2 years ago
I've just came back from Vancover B.C. on VIA's Canadian Rockies Overnight Train & all they've had was Heritige Cars & they were beautiful (i was in coach) comfortable, And accually afforable around this time (but in advance), But once i got onthe U.S. side I saw the newer amfleet cars. They're comfortable..,But not heritige comfortable. Great Video. My Friend. I Love Train Trips LOL!
Dkels219 2 years ago
That amfleet looks out of place.
gp40mc 2 years ago
Um...you're right.
Trainlover4ever2006 2 years ago
WOW, awesome P5 horn action! Great shot!!
EverywhereWest 2 years ago
Wow! How I miss those Heritage Fleet cars on the Silver Meteor and Silver Star. Bigger, more spacious, and much better riding qualities than the ultra light-weight Amfleet cars (Amcans!).
ACLTony 3 years ago
To ACLTony: If your ever in Maine ride the Maine Eastern. They've got cars similar to that and run at high speeds for a tourist railroad. 40-50 mph.
gp40mc 2 years ago
Thank you GP40mc. I hope to visit the northeast again. I'll google Maine Eastern for a website. - Peace :-)
ACLTony 2 years ago
@gp40mc Hi, sorry it took so long for me to reply, but thank you! I'll google the Maine Eastern and check it out.
ACLTony 1 year ago
And a COMBINE (bag coach) on the REAR... WOW NICE CATCH!
Alcochaser 3 years ago
Upon further review, it looks like a Bag Dorm possibly. Still great
Alcochaser 3 years ago
same type of horn on metra
NJT4211 3 years ago
Yeah! Good ole F40 back in the 90s! Nice P5 horn too! 5***** and fav.
NS6641 3 years ago
What year was this recorded? Reminds me of The Crescent back in the early 1980's! 5*****
DJGENEX71 3 years ago
Nice!!!
railmogul2 3 years ago
I worked on this train for 1.5 years. This train number is 48 not 448. The train number was 448 only when the leg was ALB to Boston. The NYP section continued as 48.
And the same for 449, when it hooked up with the NYP end it became 49. They couldn't bring the dome cars to BOS because of the clearance at the Muddy River bridge, 2 inches to high. I really miss working on it.
goodeye03 4 years ago
Heritage coaches were not on the Lake Shore between April 1991 and February 1994.
garginshmunkle 4 years ago
you are watching it on video, sorry guy
supertouring 4 years ago 4
You said you believe this was taken in summer 1994. That makes sense. Heritage coaches came back in February 1994, so what I'm saying doesn't conflict with the video.
garginshmunkle 4 years ago
Actually I rode the Lake Shore Limited from Buffalo to Albany with my dad on Saturday 9/11/93 and it had all heritage coaches. We rode in coach 4711, the first coach in the NYC section immediately behind dining car 8510.
sasilv1129 3 years ago
Heritage coaches only made appearances on the Lake Shore when a really late train meant the cleaning crews didn't have time to clean the Amfleet coaches.
garginshmunkle 3 years ago
I liv e like 5 miles away!! Love the F40's though!
furryfurball1221 4 years ago
Nice Video, I miss the F40 Locomotives too, but the horn didn't sound right on the lead locomotive though, sounded like there was water stuck in the horns too.
Kjr0se 4 years ago
It sounded like that horn came from another engine, like an NS eng. It has that old Southern RR sound to it.
supertouring 4 years ago
wait is that a P5 horn or is that a K5la with a high pitch to it. i looked closely to the F40's roof in the video and it didnt look like a k5la but it might have been a p5
free2rtmey 4 years ago
It was probably a p5. Amtrak's first 30 F40s delivered, #'s 200-229, were delivered with p5s. F40's #230-415 were delivered with K5LAs. So the lead F40 is probably between #200-229.
sasilv1129 4 years ago
Well, 90229(ex-229) still has its P5
trainzrok 3 years ago
AWESOME VIDEO!!! Classic Lake Shore Limited at its finest! Do you remember when you shot this video?? I'm guessing sometime in the early 90's. That location off Rte. 5 in Silver Creek is one of the best spots in WNY to watch trains.
sasilv1129 4 years ago
I believe it was summer 1994
supertouring 4 years ago
Makes sense. Right around the time they stopped using the dome car between the lounge and diner.
sasilv1129 4 years ago
Amtrak used the dome on the Lake Shore between early May 1994 and late September 1994. However, one of the domes was lost in an accident and, therefore, one equipment set didn't have a dome.
garginshmunkle 4 years ago
This can't be later than early July, 1994 because in early July, the Slumbercoach was switched to the New York section.
garginshmunkle 4 years ago
Good video.
amtk019 4 years ago
I wish I was around longer to have seen more, but I am thankful that I have been able to see a few years ago on the San Diegan service. (Right before Surfliner transition!)
MarkConductor 4 years ago
Hell ya F40PH
Ham549 4 years ago
I sure miss them
supertouring 4 years ago
AHH the glorious F40, those were the days!
garandman114 4 years ago
Great to see some footage of the F40's in service. Awesome clip.
CSX6000 4 years ago
Yes it was and I miss it
supertouring 4 years ago
Now that was Amtrak!!!
LAMetro714 4 years ago