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  • God bless you my brother, thank you for that preaching

  • There is so much power in what he says ! So much truth in this !!

  • Thank you, Pastor Washer, for taking the risk to put your heart out there to be trampled on and for telling the truth, even when no one seems to like it. I appreciate your heart so much. Thank you for weeding through the fluff and frills of Christianity today and getting to the heart of what the Bible says.

  • wait, smell like the world?

  • @hjerkovi Dude you need to go to church in order for Christ to be the core of your life.If he was then you would know that

  • @Stlwrkr289 No where does it say you need to go to church in the Bible. We are the Church.

  • I don't go to church but Christ is core of my life. World seems like playground and people like virtual reality, but Christ is real for me. No way to explain that, you need to experience that.

  • @hjerkovi why don't you go to church?

  • @hjerkovi That's awesome, great to hear about brothers (or sisters, I don't know) who are passionate for Christ. I do recommend you find a church family to be in, but good on you!

  • Have you not read.

    1 Corinthians 2

    Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

  • But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

    For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

  • and RELATIONSHIP....is much harder to judge than our actions! I believe that's why Jesus says don't judge!

  • @adambomb312 What would you do if you found out your relationship with Jesus was really just a psychological game you're playing with yourself, that Jesus was dead all along, and what you consider to be the Holy Spirit was actually just your intuition that had been sensitized by your increased focus on spiritual matters?

  • @Visda58 if i found out my relationship with Jesus was a psychological game, then i would wonder why isn't it fun?

  • @TheGospelGroupDotCom Perhaps because it's a fear and guilt based game.

  • The entire "are you 'really' saved?" question can be answered this simply, if you can honestly say that you love God, you love Jesus and are living for Him, then you're saved....no matter what you have done, no matter what you are currently doing.....you need to stop what you are doing wrong or else what you're doing will eventually destroy you [and possibly your soul!]....you're saved! Because what we have with God is NOT religion...it's relationship! 

  • @adambomb312 I agree 100%. The problem is that today we believe that "Living for Him" means going to church, reading the bible sometimes, singing some songs like we're dead, and not doing "major sins." Our faith must be proved by works of love, something we've forgotten. "For in Christ Jesus [nothing counts], but only faith working through love." (Gal 5:6 -- My interpretation)

  • or performance based! It's very ironic that Washer would be so judgmental on the performance of others.

    I think [latter-day Pharisees, take a moment to gasp before you have a heart attack] that Rob Bell silenced the whole Calvinism-Arminian debate when he once said that everyone's shooting back and forth their arguments [because after all, we love to argue don't we?] and God answers Calvinism? Arminianism? with simply...hmmm....yeah!

  • ite of his methods.

    There once was a time when "once saved always saved" had much appeal to me. Having grown up in a tradition where it was believed it was possible for one to "lose their salvation" I did see and experience much fearmongering. I did not think when I was younger that it would exist in the "once saved always saved wing" but sure enought it does and ironically enough for someone who holds to the five solas of the Reformation, Washer [and others] are very much works based

  • the time. After all, anger is a fruit of the flesh, right? Now I'm not denying where Paul Washer stands with God. I know Paul Washer is my brother in Christ and while I disagree with the fearmongering and Washer's Calvinist theology that fuels how angry [a reflection of his view of God] and depressed Washer is [b/c I think there are time when Washer himself does not know where he stands with God], people have gotten saved through Paul Washer's ministry, as Washer so often says of others, in sp

  • Some people will scoff at what I just wrote, some will misunderstand and misconstrue, and that's okay :). God's love and reminder of who I am in Christ Jesus has turned my life around, and not this old time religion where there is MUCH guilt and condemnation for those who are in and and not in Christ Jesus. Romans 2- God's kindness and goodness leads to repentance.

    Whatever happened to "judge not...." One could say that if Paul Washer were "really saved" he wouldn't be so angry all

  • church deems "greater sins" AFTER I gave my life to Christ. My experience has been what the Apostle Paul speaks of in Romans 5 at the end that where sin increases, grace abounds all the more. Now, I'm not gloating in what I've done wrong in life and I'm not saying continue in sin so that grace may abound! What I am saying is that I KNOW that I was "really saved" that entire time in every struggle, and what I am saying is that there is NO CONDEMNATION but the waiting loving arms of God!

  • I have listened to this message, more than once The first time I heard it brought about the intended result, which is, with no sugarcoat, to cause me to fearfully and tremblingly doubt where I stand with God!

    This kind of fear-mongering.....simply.....­doesn't......work! Our God is a God of infinite love and grace. There is NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus and perfect love casts out ALL FEAR! I will confess that I have messed up/ sinned in what the world and the pharisaical

  • We are to walk in fear and trembling. We throw proper preaching like This away because we are deceitfully wicked men with a way that leads unto DEATH,and are not willing to change our ways to be in light of scripture. Examine yourselves! There is no sebate to be had here. Dont throw out cliche verses for others to read, just because you yourself are not willing to change your cliche christianity. read the whole letter to see what paul was talking about. have an ear to hear.

  • I like the video but like all the rest of us he knows his truth is the real truth and others are wrong. But to say ..if your doing this or that = not saved things like that your walking where only GOD can walk. No man knows another mans heart. And we ALL judge what we SEE someone doing. Please.. GODs word does not need someone telling you what it REALLY is saying. Read it and take GOD at His word. Jh 3:16.. Rom 10:9-10.. love Jesus, repent.. and do your best.. NO FEAR.. not of God..

  • That was beautiful.

  • Many of you such as myself didn't want to listen to this sermon because of the truth behind his preaching It makes you feel guilty and ashamed for what deeds that you have done I want to remind everyone that if you have listened to a sermon that has made you feel guilty and ashamed and want to repent for your actions it is a good sermon This is an excellent sermon A filling sermon that I believe is a vital sermon to understand reality as a Christian and not a worldly human who is in law law land

  • AMEN

  • I would also like to say that my God is very real and is not a fantasy. I feel him and see him in everything. I am very thankful for all that he has done for me and created for me. I have felt God in many ways and I feel like I should share his love with you. I am very thankful for you. Thank you for the opportunity to share something about my beliefs and give me a chance to talk about God :) He has put me on this site today for a reason. Thank you I hope you have a blessed and wonderful day

  • Please do not feel like I am trying to put you down or trying to fight. My intentions are not too offend you. I only wanted to let you know that the definition of disciple means: (as a verb): Guide (someone) is becoming a follower of Jesus or another leader. To simplify: a follower, pupil, learner... With that being said there are many "Disciples" here today. I am not sure what prophecies you are referring to so if you don’t mind please elaborate so I will understand what you mean?

  • How can you reach him? I really feel like I need to contact him.

  • I'm going to college in the fall for youth ministry, This video has a WHOLE LOT to do with that decision. Pray for me.

  • Amazing Preaching :D

  • most of Christianity is dictated by cliches we read on the back of t-shirts, most of our Christianity comes from song writers... true that. 22:00

  • ONE WORD! >>> TRUTH!! WE NEED MORE PREACHINGS LIKE THESE, MOST OF US ARE USED TO HAVING A SIMPLE RELIGION AND NOT A CHRISTIAN LIFE

  • this is so helpful, he has saved my life

  • @rose1232434343 Only Jesus. he is so helpful. He saved your life.

    Paul simply spoke what was already written.

  • What kind of fruit do you have?..........thats how you know if you are christian.

  • @samuel01978 I have fruit of the loom.

  • preach pastor paul!!!!!! That's what all our churches need to hear these days , the Truth will set us free , not pleasing things to hear

  • "By grace ye are saved through faith." Does anybody realize what this means? Grace is the enabling power of God and faith is gift given by God. You are saved by God through His doing, no man in carnality can be saved! God, by His grace must reveal it to you and then through the faith, which he has given you, God answers your call at the precise time you seek Him. God isn't surprised and it's not necessarily election but God moves through prayer and He presses His saints to pray, so He chooses.

  • jesus told his disciples that his 2nd coming would take place in their lifetime. that makes him a false profit and a scam artist.

  • @cotton9386 The story of the loaves and fishes... talk about a prophet margin!

  • @cotton9386 reference?

  • @Bravehearted1000 matthew 16: 27,28 math 24:25-34, mark 13:26-30, luke 21: 27-32. i have never seen a christian delusionist address these failed prophesies. a whole lot more of the bible is BS too. if you quote it to them they will tell you to ignore reason and have faith. then they condemn you to hell. really christian dont you think?

  • @cotton9386 how are these failed prophecies?

    Those prophecies are made about when Jesus comes again.

    Those prophecies have yet to be fulfilled, it doesn't mean that they have failed. Prophecies are made about the future and they don't fail if they are not fulfilled immediately.

  • @ellliyaa these are failed prophecies because jesus said he would return BEFORE HIS DESCIPLES GENERATION TASTED DEATH!! they've been dead almost 2000 years dumbass. typical creatard ignoring everthing that disagrees with your delusional fantasy and cherry picking your holey book of jewdom.

  • @cotton9386 No, in the first prophecy you have mentioned, Jesus is speaking of his death and resurrection. In the second and third, he is speaking when he comes again and calls upon his disciples. Those three are not speaking of the same prophecy. The bible did record that Jesus resurrects after his death.

    There is no use if you attack me or any person who you're discussing an issue with. If the truth is being discussed, it will not be altered by whoever is speaking of it. Read the bible :)

  • i know how to read the english language and you evidently don't. your god condones slavery, genocide, incest, torture, infacide, human sacrifice, and on and on. i know this because i have read your book of fables. i will always attack ignorance and especially prideful ignorance. you believe in your invisible sky daddy because you want to. faith is nothing but the cessation of reality. christianity is nothing but a perversion of worship of the sun, except you spell it son. adios

  • @cotton9386 If you disagree with this preaching, then why are you here on this channel or even bothering to comment! wow you must really desagree alot HAHAHAHA

  • @amoyano89 i watch because my lord and savior , THOR, tells me to in the book of marvel. you are worshiping the wrong god and will spend eternity in the great lake of hot chocolate unless you ask THOR to forgive you for your blasphemy you creatard

  • this teaching is truly blessed !!!

  • @CharSaysRawr1 blessed with stupidity

  • I'm not ashamed to say that I hate your god even though he's non-existent. And why shouldn't I kill every calvinist I see by torturing them to death? I am, after all, "totally depraved" so I think the calvinists should bear the brunt of my depravity by suffering inflicted by me. This is a righteous repayment for their "election" to "salvation."

  • @CUMlordJESUS666 Nice username. Do you actually sit around thinking about how much you don't like Christianity that it would convince you to make your username that? What about when you comment on secular videos, you drag your anti-religious username with you to get unwarranted attention? You hate what you believe doesn't exists, yet you know about election and calvinism? Why are you so informed about something you don't believe in, hate, and wish to persecute others for?

  • Paul Washer does believe once saved always saved, and he says this in many sermons. What he's saying is this....Just because you walked an aisle, and prayed a prayer doesn't mean you are saved. I though this for years, yeat I had no change in my life. I still don't have it, yet I'm seeking it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that salvation is a prayer. It's by faith, and repentance which go hand in hand. Saving faith, not knowledge of facts in your mind.

  • @386ABC

    The Bible indeed says his mercy endures forever. But only to those who choose to accept him. If not then nobody would ever go to hell. You should probably study your scripture a bit more. And Paul Washer does not believe once saved always saved. What do you think he is preaching against his whole video.

  • Don't let it get too late. Once our Lord Jesus returns, it will be too late to change your mind.

    Please take this so seriously, it is no joke. It is no lie.

  • @KingdomSeeker2012

    Where does the Bible say it will be too late??? The Bible says that God's mercy endures FOREVER!

  • God is the Holy Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. A person consists of soul (mind, consciousness), body and spirit. The Holy Spirit will work in us if we allow Him to. God forces no-one. We have free will to choose. The Bible was written by people through whom the Holy Spirit did His work - which is the work the Father wants done. God wanted the Bible to be written for the benefit of mankind, so that we can all turn back to Him and be saved.

  • @386ABC

    It's only your eternity at sake. I'm not saying I agree nor disagree with everything he says here. But for the most part he is totally right. American "Christians" claim to be yet lack a relationship with Christ. No where in the Bible will you find where it says that you can say one prayer and your going heaven. He is right you have to stay on the path. You can deviate from it. You can step out from under the Grace of God. It's always there for you. But people reject it when they choo

  • @tbloxham3

    If He believes in the doctrine of election and once saved always saved, then what is the big deal? Does he really believe those doctrines or is he a hypocrite? He is a Calvinist for crying pout loud! What an absolute JOKE!

  • @386ABC The real question is: why assume the Bible is the holy word of God in the first place?

  • @Visda58

    I am not assuming anything. Why are you assuming that I am assuming?

  • @386ABC Fine, why CONCLUDE that the Bible is the holy word of God.

  • @Visda58

    Because it has the power to heal.

  • @386ABC So do doctors, vaccines, drugs, your immune system, your state of mind, time, new relationships, Paul Washer, and virtually every other religion. You might need to narrow your criteria some.

  • @386ABC

    Let me rephrase - it has the power to heal spiritually.

  • @386ABC Again, so does virtually every other religion. That's what they do. That's their forte.

  • @Visda58

    I do not have a religion. I have a relationship.

  • @386ABC You believe in a supernatural being that created the universe and has a plan for human kind, and that it is the ultimate authority. You believe in an immortal soul, redemption, sacrifice, the Holy Spirit. Yes, you also believe you have a personal relationship with the Godhead, and that it offers spiritual healing, but come now, it is more than a mere relationship, for it was born out of, and is part of, a very obvious religious backdrop. Don't fool yourself. U religious!

  • @Visda58

    Religion sucks. You can shove all religion sideways up an elephants kazoo.

  • @386ABC Then what are you doing here raving on about the Holy Bible? You do realize it is a religious text... Your 'relationship' is based on a religion. You are a member of a religion (Christianity), you hold religious beliefs. This is not hard to understand. A 'relationship' does not negate this fact. It's like a husband saying "I'm not married, I'm in a relationship!", all the while arguing about the technicalities of his marriage certificate.

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  • @Visda58

    If you insist on using YOUR definition of religion, then I cannot stop you. To some morons, marriage IS nothing but a certificate! They do not have a clue what a REAL marriage is. Thank you for proving my point.

  • @386ABC I don't think you got the parallel. Whether or not a particular Mormon has a relationship, he's still married. Whether or not you have a relationship with Christ or not, if you believe in him, and the Bible, you're religious. It's just a technicality, it's nothing you need to deny. You're in the Christian religion. It doesn't diminish your relationship. What is YOUR definition of religion?

  • @Visda58 I don't know what his/her definition of religion is, but I'll be completely honest and ask why you don't think the Bible is true? I want to know what makes you think any other religion could be equally as true? You come at Christians with allegations of fallacy, but I have a feeling you, like many Christians, haven't the slightest clue what is in the Bible and I would at least want to show you what I mean, but it can't be done on a comment board. I'll show you the difference in religion

  • @Bravehearted1000 I've read the Bible cover to cover, have done many many studies, was raised in church, and was a believer for a couple decades. I won't call myself an expert Bible scholar per se, but it was reading it FULLY, among other things, that led me the opinion that it is not everything it claims to be. I don't put much credence in other religious claims either, but that is not to say religions are not effective as a "spiritual healers" (to use a phrase I don't quite like).

  • @Visda58 Many people can read and study the Bible, but I have a slight inclination that you never truly understood the Bible and allowed the Spirit to live it through you. It's not about "spiritual healing" and it's not about you or I. It's not about my own religion or my own opinion, it's about the truth of Christ and the truth of the Word (One in the same). Also, you never answered my question and if you want to continue, I'll be honest with you and the mere message itself, will offend you.

  • @Bravehearted1000 My slight inclination is that you are attaching undue gravitas to your slight inclinations, and that you naturally give less credit to other humans and their efforts than you give to your own, due to the belief that the Holy Spirit works through you. You have no knowledge at all of my life as a believer to justify your slight inclination, you have simply deified your intuition. But you're right, I never answered your question.. see next box...

  • @Visda58 I'll honestly say that my efforts were awful before I had learned the things I've learned. I'll admit that I'm not perfect, nor do I expect to be, but I'm striving toward a goal, to know Christ. There isn't much other than that. Like I said, it's not about "spiritual healing" or theological study, it's about knowing Christ and more than just a relationship. Christ is a lifestyle, not a cherry on the top of my ice cream sundae of life. He is everything for me, I doubt you've had that.

  • @Bravehearted1000 I've had that.

  • @Visda58 And so, your flesh was dead with Christ and buried with Christ? Your spirit was raised in Christ and seated in heavenly places with Christ, wherefore, you had all the powers of earth and hell under your feet, ruled by the will of Christ?

  • @Bravehearted1000  So much as it is has happened to you, yes. It's a wonderful feeling, isn't it?

  • @Visda58 It's not really a feeling, it's a truth, it's done and I'm free to live as a slave to the righteousness of Christ and the will of Christ. Like I said, it's not about me, I don't care how it feels and I don't care what gain I get ot of it, to know Christ and have Him known is the sole desire and care of my life. To live as I was created to be, not as a selfish creature of the flesh, deceived by every lie that Satan throws at me. I'm strong in my faith, something that is very seldom seen.

  • @Bravehearted1000 "It's not a feeling, it's a truth".... do you realize how vague and inconclusive that is? I understand what you're driving at, but you haven't yet realized what it really takes to gain real knowledge. It's a lot of work, boring work, not being a slave to your faith and rejecting Satan's lies. Faith is gulliblity. Faith is NOT the evidence of things unseen, it is the biased response to a LACK of evidence.

  • @Bravehearted1000 To answer your question briefly, one simple and easy reason among many is the claim that plants existed before the sun.

  • @Visda58 And yet, you can't prove that they didn't... I can't rove that they did, except a book, which has a lot of incredible allegory for something to happen much later in time and in perfect alignment with many prophecies. What you're stating has a lot less credibility, Give me some passages that create an issue for you and I'll work on them and see what we can get... :)

  • @Bravehearted1000 One can indeed disprove the 'plants before sun' hypothesis:  photosynthesis.

  • @Visda58 That doesn't prove anything to be honest. It proves that plants are able to gain energy from the sun, doesn't mean it's the only energy they're able to gain.

  • @Bravehearted1000 Your skepticism is quite selective. Maybe think about applying it evenly, perhaps to your dead in the flesh, etc... comments.

  • @Visda58 Haha, skepticism? I'm not a skeptic, I can tell you what the order means, if there was no sun, I wonder who is the source of life and energy, consdiering that the universe needs to be powered by something supernatural because society, nature and existence is unable to self-sustain. The dead in flesh is actually very logical seeing how all natural instinct would tell us that our own well-being is first priority, which can never be met by this natural world.

  • @Bravehearted1000 I know you're not a full on skeptic, otherwise you would be questioning things OTHER than what you don't already believe in, but you do harbor skepticism about other things such as photosynthesis debunking the plants before sun hypothesis.  You've just denied real demonstrable truth, because you don't want to bother with investigating it. That's why I said your skepticism is selective. Why should I even bother asking you more questions if you're self-admittedly unquestioning?

  • @Visda58 Photosynthesis doesn't debunk it. Light existed before the sun, the sun isn't a source of it's own energy. I'm not a skeptic at all, I have one very reliable truth to stand upon, something that wasn't created by the 'intellect' of men.

  • @Bravehearted1000 It's light from the SUN that plants require. If you think another source of light was what powered photosynthesis, then you need evidence for that hypothesis. Besides, this is a can of worms when you extrapolate the question, because the Earth did not exist before the sun either. The "truth" you rely on is far from reliable. If you want to know how stars and planets form, then you must study stars and planets, not read the Bible. Likewise with plants.

  • @percyfaith7

    The Bible is not only good news. It speaks of destruction and wrath. Paul Washer is very right in everything he says. He did not manipulate any text that he used. He simply put it in words that youth could understand. Everyone says it is evil. This man gives his life for Christ. Traveling around the world teaching and spreading his good news. But this message is exactly what every "Christian" in America needs to hear. He is dead on. And who are we to judge him by saying his teachi

  • @tbloxham3

    Paul Washer is an idiot. He is a heretic and a false teacher. He does not have a clue what God's word says nor means. He is an embarrassment to the body of Christ.

  • Before you place a negative comment on this video - know your bible inside out and upside down, spend time in south america for years as a hard core missionary in some of the most dangerous and poverty stricken parts of the world and lose your life and reputation for spreading the gospel as Paul Washer has done. Do this and then your not a hypocrite and then you have a right to type away and debate in a rational, friendly and cognitive manner. If Jesus be lifted up He will draw all men unto him

  • @lionofthetribeofjuda We all have the right to type negative comments and/or debate in a rational and cognitive manner without doing all of that. Just because Paul Washer puts himself on a pedestal and plays martyr doesn't mean he has divine ordinance.

  • @lionofthetribeofjuda You can do these things and still preach error,which is what he is doing.He still preaches reform theology.

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  • @Gothxha

    Paul Washer is a false teacher and a heretic.

  • pure evil and mental abuse on the young

  • @admonster11

    you say this is evil because you can't manage the truth...

  • @14Vino

    This message is NOT the truth! It is a manipulation of God's Holy Word. It is a counterfeit.

  • @386ABC I bet your version is probably counterfeit, too.

  • @Visda58

    What is MY version????

  • @386ABC From the context, it appears to me you think the Bible is God's Holy Word.

  • @Visda58

    It absolutely is. But my Bible may be different from your Bible. 

  • @386ABC Nuh Uh, MY Bible is God's Holy Word! It even says so, right in my Bible.

  • @Visda58

    Well then it must be! :-)

  • @386ABC Boooo. Lame reply.

  • @admonster11

    EXACTLY! 

  • The Gospel is GOOD NEWS! It is not a shocking message but one of peace about the total Grace provision of God for fallen mankind. John 3:16

  • I goggled this fellow and picked up a web site about Jesus-is-savior

    I found the site of interest regarding the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • @Percyfaith7

    Why no answer to my question?

  • @386ABC John 14:6 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

    Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. It is all about Grace and all about Relationship and it is Totally about the Provision of God. If we did nothing to earn salvation we cannot do anything to maintain it. The Lord provides our salvation in total. We step into that salvation by a simple act of faith.

  • @Percyfaith7

    Everyone WILL believe! Phil 2:10-11 and Romans 14:11 both confirm that EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father! Jesus died for the sins of the WORLD! He is the lamb of God who TAKES AWAY the sin of the WORLD (John 1:29). Jesus said from the cross - IT IS FINISHED!

  • WHAT the fuck is this?

  • Sorry, I do not believe that when he was saved that he went to every single door in his home town and that everyone said they are.  He is a liar. This is the point I stopped watching this video.

  • TRUTH

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  • Extrapolate..

  • Don't let the God of the Bible get you down. Yes, he's a dick, but he's not real. Relax and enjoy the company of your fellow humans. You don't have to feel guilty about being born... what a shame and a waste.

  • @Visda58 you are so lost... pray, that God reveal Himself to you!

  • @TheErlandos He did and I will never get the image out of my head, hopefully the lawsuit goes through.

  • @TheErlandos I do not doubt that your sentiment is genuine, but don't worry, I am doing just fine. :) I will instead pray for miraculous healing of the ulcer that you will eventually develop from all the guilt and worry.

  • I wish those clowns out here in California that do the Harvest Crusades would watch this video, they present the most watered down, wussified gospel ive ever heard!

  • @dnlcast2 Amen! This created New Age cross breed false Gospel breaks my heart.

  • @sunnsu Thank you I agree whole heartedly!

  • correction - HIS Word

  • THIS IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!! THE LOST CANNOT HANDLE OR GRASP THE TRUTH, SO ALL WE CAN DO AS TRULY BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS IS PRAY PRAY PRAY THAT GOD WILL REVEAL UNTO THEM THE SAVING TRUTHS OF THE WORD OF GOD! I cant explain everything the Bible teaches but 1 thing that I do understand is that the Bible DOES NOT TEACH ALL ARE SAVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM THE PITS OF HELL!!!! CHRIST IS THE ANSWER!!! MERRY CHRISTmas111

  • @JESUSLOVESYOU86

    Yes, the blood of Christ cleanses the entire world from it's unrighteousness. John 1:29 - "Behold the Lamb of God who TAKES AWAY the sin of the WORLD!" Not just the sin of believers - the sin of the WORLD! The Bible DOES teach that all will be saved! THAT is the Good News! Most people going to Hell for eternity is not good news! That is HORRIBLE NEWS! God is LOVE and LOVE does not take into account a wrong suffered.

  • @386ABC Love doesnt? oh oh, we have a problem then. Because the God of the Bible seems to take account of a wrong suffered - "the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, & gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God." & "out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations & he shall rule them with a rod of iron & he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness & wrath of Almighty God"

    Houston we have a problem...

  • @sunnsu

    1 Corinthians 13: 5 "Love does not take into account a wrong suffered." (NASB)

    Your argument is with God. And yes, YOU have a problem! God's word contradicts you.

  • @386ABC So God is lovingly smiting the rebellious nations with his fierceness & wrath? It seems as if wrath is exercised on the unbelieving, the unrepentant and the rebellious.

    John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

    You see this does not contradict my doctrine, it contradicts yours that all are saved yet under the wrath & hatred of God. You need to reconcile this, not I.

  • @sunnsu

    Do you even know what the wrath of God is? The word ABIDETH is in the present tense - not future tense. John 3:18 says he who does not believe in condemned ALREADY! RIGHT NOW! Does that mean they are in Hell right now???? Does that mean they can never repent????? I am BEGGING you to PLEASE go learn your Bible! PLEASE!

  • @386ABC God's Wrath is the Holy just anger & hatred that manifests itself into extreme punitive measures

    To answer your question go to the Bible about the abiding "wrath of God" and what is the end result. Rom 2:5 "But after thy hardness & impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath & revelation of the righteous judgment of God" - it is very clear that Wrath gets stored until the day of wrath when God Judges the unsaved those with hard, impenitent hearts

  • @sunnsu

    DAY of wrath - not eternity of wrath. The wrath of God that Jesus took on our behalf lasted 6 hours! The cross was a DAY of wrath. God promises in the OT that He will NOT be angry forever!

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  • @sunnsu

    Just because someone is going to Heaven in the end, does not mean that they will not experience the wrath of God. People with cancer need chemotherapy. God's wrath is chemotherapy on sin. God's wrath is GOOD and has GOOD results! God's fire is a REFINING fire! You are greatly misunderstanding God and Hos Word.

  • @386ABC But you are the one saying that Jesus paid it all, for everyone. If God were to then punish sin then Jesus's sacrifice was insufficient. Catholics believe something similar to that with their purgatory doctrine.

    This is why everything fits with my doctrine, and they simply cannot with yours. I pray that you see this. Reflect on it, that if you are wrong what harm could you be doing to people that do not understand how dire it is to repent and have faith in Jesus Christ.

  • @sunnsu

    Jesus paid the death penalty. There are still Earthly consequences of sin. All the Earth is now suffering the consequences of sin. But there is no sin in the next life, and no consequences in the next life. Repentance is about this life.

  • @386ABC But we are not talking about the earthly consequences for sin, that is simply a given & no one would debate that. We are talking about God pouring out his wrath on the unrepentant, the unsaved. You state by your doctrine that Jesus paid for everyone's sin, & all are forgiven & the slate is clean according to God, right? But scripture states, which you also agreed, that God will pour out his wrath & punish some at the end.

    Do you see how your doctrine cannot be true?

  • @sunnsu

    Why are you assuming that the wrath of God is a bad thing? Is chemotherapy a bad thing?

  • @386ABC ???? I am speechless on how you can possibly compare chemo to Gods wrath & judgment. Yes to suffer Gods wrath is bad, it is unimaginable. It is torment, flames, & anguish. Why do these people that have been forgiven by Jesus's death need to be punished by God after the slate was already wiped clean according to your doctrine? This cannot be. But perhaps they are being punished because they are not saved, they rejected Jesus & they must pay for their own sin themselves.

  • @386ABC cont.. You have 2 options to take,

    1) Either Jesus's sacrifice on the cross covers only those with faith in him, those that repented & the unrepentant get punished with Gods wrath. Proving a separation of the saved & unsaved, the sheep & the goats, the wheat & the tares.

    Or 2) God punishes harshly, with flaming agony, torment, to those whom he already forgave & thus violates his own word by taking an account of the wrongs suffered to those whom he loved.

    Which is it?

  • @sunnsu

    God DISCIPLINES. The Greek word KOLASIS is corrective punishment - Matt 25:46 with eternal results. The punishment itself is not eternal. It is not a verb. It does not say "continually punishing forever". The word eternal in Matt 25:46 describes the source (God - who is eternal) and the results (which are eternal). Mark 9:49 says "Everyone will be SEASONED (salted) with fire. God's punishment (discipline) is ALWAYS corrective and restorative. ALWAYS!

  • @386ABC Gods discipline is corrective. Discipline is not punishment, punishment is paying for a wrong committed, it is punitive. Kolasis is punishment, period you are adding the term corrective to suit your doctrine, Bible scholars, Greek scholars both agree with that, this is why it is not translated as "corrective punishment". God disciplines the saved, his children to conform us to be more like Jesus... He punishes the unsaved because they are paying for their own actions

  • @386ABC cont.. also you are now saying that aionios is eternal? before you said it wasnt... Regardless you cannot apply it towards God in that verse because contextually it says the word "eis" is right before eternal which is a preposition meaning "into" so it reads "into eternal punishment" this is clear. Why are you trying to make it say something it doesnt say?

    Also you did not answer which option was true, option 1 or option 2?

  • @sunnsu

    What does INTO have to do with it. If someone goes INTO a correctional facility, what difference does that make? Vindictive punishment in the Greek is a totally different word - TIMORIA. That word is NOT used in Matt 25:46. And again, it is a noun, not a verb. Look that "eternal redemption" in Hebrews. Does that mean that Jesus keeps dying on the cross for all eternity? Or does the RESULTS of that redeeming act last forever? Please do some more research.

  • @sunnsu You should repent of your false doctrine.Reformed calvinism is great heresy Stop being so foolish.Arminianism amd calvinism are both wrong false that they are centered on men

  • @tgillspy2 You obviously do not understand these doctrines, because both focus on God.

    But at least if you wish to make blanket statements about doctrines, post your correction and back it up using scripture (all of it) and in context.

  • @sunnsu Read the chapter in 2 peter 3 KJV which reveals God's heart that the Lord is not slack and is not willing that any should perish you don't believe this, and therefore you are in great error....

  • @tgillspy2 Of course I believe this, does he not want any to perish, that all SHOULD come to repentance, this is his desire, but he created us as beings of choice he did not create robots. If he did not want ANY to perish & enact his sovereign will he could have simply eliminated choice in the matter & not create the tree of knowledge. Just prior to your quoted verse it says "But the heavens and the earth" "reserved unto fire against the day of judgment & perdition of ungodly men"

  • @sunnsu

    Man's choice is not a free choice. It is greatly deceived by sin and Satan. No one has ever rejected God - they reject God from a false understanding of who He is. They have never had a revelation of who God is by the power of the Holy Spirit. They are rejecting what they do not know nor understand - not God.

  • @386ABC Chemotherapy is a bad thing. 'There are some things that are worse than death and Chemotherapy is one of them'. The 'wrath' of God is an anthropomorphism. God is Love but he is also justice. His thoughts are not our thoughts and His ways are not our ways. Don't know about this fellows doctrine, but it is important to study under someone that is well educated in the original languages so they can 'rightly divide' or interpret scriptures accurately.

  • @Percyfaith7

    The SIDE EFFECTS are the bad thing. Chemotherapy attacks and removes cancer. That is a GOOD thing. God does not have any bad side effects!

  • @386ABC

    Chemotherapy is like Religion it's sold as the way to go presented as a good thing but the truth is it goes against a basic foundation of medicine "First Do No Harm". As far as Religion, it is the devils ace trump, a smoke screen of diversion from the truth.

  • @sunnsu

    Merry Christmas to you and thank you for the discussion!

  • @386ABC And Merry Christmas to you as well.

  • That's extremely powerful.

  • You will never understand how much I hate Jesus Christ.

  • @Agent364

    Why would you hate someone you have never met and do not know?

  • @Agent364 -

    Revelation 3:15-16

    New American Standard Bible (NASB) 15 ‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will [a]spit you out of My mouth.

  • @Percyfaith7

    Why is it ok to be cold in Rev 3:15-16?