Essentially W.O.T.C made D&D communist. Everyone gets the same stuff at exactly the same time. I am one of the ones who is gonna jump the iron curtain and escape back into the 3.5 west! :)
@kellystone84 Not so much communist, just much more even. A party of lvl 15's walk into a bar, a trap goes off. Fighter says "Just a scratch" Rogues says "What trap, i can dodge a speeding bullet" Cleric says "ow, that hurt a bit" Mage says "......" nothing, he got 1shoted. Now we all get to go "Phew, that was close" and slap the rogue for not disarming it properly.
@doombybbr It was just an example, apparently a poorly chosen one. The relevent point was about the comparative amounts of damage taken by each class, not why the trap was there.
Just to point this out, you add your CON score not mod to HP at first lvl, giving you much higher score so as to let your PCs not get whipped by a few gobs like in 3.5
very good review, i came back to this after a few months and after playing dnd 4.0 a lot i agree with your points on the classes, please bring out some more :)
It is streamlined, but then again that can be a good thing. Did you really enjoy having your wizard pour over the 100 spells he's learned in his travels, just to figure out which 40 he wanted to use that day, and then keep track of which he's used and which he hasn't just yet with constant scribblings on the sheet?
As far as your options being slimer with PPaths, remember there were not 30 prestige classes in the core rule books in 3.5 and even when after many supplements came out, your character did not really have that many choices because any given character did not qualify for about 85% of the prestige classes available. While no one can claim any edition as the "Best" I can say without a doubt, In my meet up goup in KC (130+ members) 4E is wildly popular and in my humble opinion is by far the best ed.
I rly hate most of the new core rules of 4th edition, i lov som stuf but it usually trades that for somthing just as awsome from 3rd editon. i feel the inivation is lost and i usually play a version of d&d that combines all the rules, and uses 4th edition monster (it think the 4th edition monsters are rly awsome!!)
why didn't you continue the review?
doombybbr 4 months ago
Essentially W.O.T.C made D&D communist. Everyone gets the same stuff at exactly the same time. I am one of the ones who is gonna jump the iron curtain and escape back into the 3.5 west! :)
kellystone84 2 years ago
@kellystone84 Not so much communist, just much more even. A party of lvl 15's walk into a bar, a trap goes off. Fighter says "Just a scratch" Rogues says "What trap, i can dodge a speeding bullet" Cleric says "ow, that hurt a bit" Mage says "......" nothing, he got 1shoted. Now we all get to go "Phew, that was close" and slap the rogue for not disarming it properly.
davidsfriend01 1 year ago
@davidsfriend01 but why was the trap there?
doombybbr 4 months ago
@doombybbr To catch underage mages. Even in fantasy no alcohol for minors. My DM puts traps in all sorts of wierd and wonderful places.
davidsfriend01 4 months ago
@davidsfriend01 but it makes no sense in terms of the campaign, if you owned a bar you wouldn't put a trap there, IT WOULD SCARE THE CUSTOMERS AWAY!
doombybbr 4 months ago
@doombybbr It was just an example, apparently a poorly chosen one. The relevent point was about the comparative amounts of damage taken by each class, not why the trap was there.
davidsfriend01 4 months ago
Just to point this out, you add your CON score not mod to HP at first lvl, giving you much higher score so as to let your PCs not get whipped by a few gobs like in 3.5
DMxDarkmatterx4e 2 years ago
very good review, i came back to this after a few months and after playing dnd 4.0 a lot i agree with your points on the classes, please bring out some more :)
caseisclosed94 2 years ago
I liked it better when dragons could one shot parties with their breath weapon, it actually made them a threat in combat.
HiveFleetHydra 2 years ago
It is streamlined, but then again that can be a good thing. Did you really enjoy having your wizard pour over the 100 spells he's learned in his travels, just to figure out which 40 he wanted to use that day, and then keep track of which he's used and which he hasn't just yet with constant scribblings on the sheet?
Manawolfman 2 years ago
As far as your options being slimer with PPaths, remember there were not 30 prestige classes in the core rule books in 3.5 and even when after many supplements came out, your character did not really have that many choices because any given character did not qualify for about 85% of the prestige classes available. While no one can claim any edition as the "Best" I can say without a doubt, In my meet up goup in KC (130+ members) 4E is wildly popular and in my humble opinion is by far the best ed.
gratheist 3 years ago
I rly hate most of the new core rules of 4th edition, i lov som stuf but it usually trades that for somthing just as awsome from 3rd editon. i feel the inivation is lost and i usually play a version of d&d that combines all the rules, and uses 4th edition monster (it think the 4th edition monsters are rly awsome!!)
greeV429 3 years ago
I definitely like the advent of PP's and the tossing out of PrCs...I hated PrCs.
araciel82 3 years ago