IF MACEDONIA IS NOT GREEK HOW I CAN READ THE ANCIENT MACEDONIAN STONES????? BY THE WAY.........275 EUROPEANS AND AMERICANS HISTORY PROFESORS SINGED A LETTER TO OBAMA AND EXPLAINS WHY THE MACEDONIA IS GREEK.......IF YOU WANT I CAN SEND YOU THE LINK TO READ THE LETTER........YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW MUCH MORE THAN THE HISTORIANS???????????
In the genetic analizies publicated from the science newspaper of the American association for development of science, are explored the genetic codes of the Macedonians minority in northern Greece compared with the greeks. The explorations prooved great difference in the hromozom Y between the genetic compositions of the Macedonians and the Greeks.
In the report of the exploration, between the other, the Americans wrote that PEOPLE OF THE EGEUM MACEDONIA, the area which was ocupied by the greek army in 1913, IS NOT GREEK AND NEVER HAS BEEN GREEK. THEY ARE THE DESCENDENTS OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT OF MACEDON.
Ares was god of the war in the Hellenic culture, but in the Macedonian Ma was goddes of the war. Ares and Ma are not same gods. In the hellenic culture goddes of the beauty was Afrodita, in Macedonian was Zeirene. The Hellens hadn't god of the health or named as Pean who was god of the health in the Macedonian culture. For the Hellens Dionis was god of the wine and celebration, for the Macedonians Dionis was god of the spring.
Hellens hadn't god of the air named as Bedi which was in the Macedonian culture. Hellens hadn't god named as Ilion which in the Macedonian culture was god of the river Vardar and god of the war(for Hellens was Ares, but he was not also god of the river Vardar). From the name Ilion has origin the macedonian name Ilija. Tradition of celebrating the day of Ilion or St. Ilija still exist. Every year we celebrite the religious and NATIONAL holyday ILINDEN. That's on august the 2.
Macedonians believed in the god Ilion and they were gaving him victims before every battle. For the Macedonians it was greatest honor to fight in battle on august the 2 what was day of the Macedonian victory over the Hellens in the battle of Heronea. THE HELLENS HAD FORMED ALLIANCE AGAINST MACEDONIA AND IN THE BATTLE OF HERONEA HAD BEEN DEFEATED.
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AN ARTIFICIAL NATION WAS BORN Land: GREEK Name: GREEK History: GREEK Heroes: GREEKS Artifacts: GREEK Ruins: GREEK Coins: GREEK Language: BULGARIAN Ethnicity: BULGARIAN Culture: BULGARIAN =to PSEUDOMACEDONISM
А шо е финтата со ова шо сте го пишаале дека Гоце Делечев рекол. Тоа е најобичен цитат од роман кој само звучи убаво, а нема никаква историска важност, не дека Гоце стварно го е рекол. Поздрав
macedonia to the macedonians!!!vardar+aegean+pi rin=republic of macedonia!!!macedonia will be united!!!solun will be the capital of macedonia,again!!!prepare for our and turkey invasion!!!death for greece!!!death for tatarija!!!
Denying Ethnic Identity - Macedonians of Greece, New York, 1994
The Helsinki Watch has, therefore, confirmed that the Macedonians indeed exist in Greece as a large minority. Helsinki Watch found the Greek government guilty for oppressing the Macedonian minority and demanded they be given their basic human rights to which they are entitled.
Името не си го продаваме Името не си го даваме грците ке лазат најмалку уше 3 до 4 години но и на крај ке дојде светлиот ден кога Македонците ке удрат уште посилно на Грците и на Бугарите
Ministerial Council for Research into South-Eastern Europe
The most -typical examples of forced migration of Macedonians are to be found in eastern Macedonia, where Greek terrorist bands killed 29 and imprisoned 3,100 Macedonians and expelled 600 Macedonian families across the borders - and this in the period from February to the end of March 1945 alone. The situation was no different in the other areas of Aegean Macedonia.
and that one where it is being answered which language spoke alexander:
Diodorus of Sicily (17.67.1)
"After this Alexander left Darius's mother, his daughters, and his son in Susa, providing them with persons to teach them the GREEK language, and marching on with his army on the fourth day reached the Tigris River. "
Pelasgians, a non hellenic population spoke a barbarian language that he don't understand. Only after learning the greek language did THEY BECOME greeks. If they speak greek unquestinably be classed as greek/ Isocrates in the Letter 9 to Archidamus .
it has been a while (almost a year?) that I saw a comment from you. I am glad that you still have the energy to fight for the "truth". I hope your job is not suffering since you spend quite a bit of time on youtube.
and that where he makes clear that the Macedonians worshiped the twelve Greek Gods:
Histories, Chapter 16, 95.2
"Along with lavish display of every sort, Philip included in the procession statues OF THE TWELVE GODS brought with great artistry and adorned with a dazzling show of wealth to strike awe to the beholder, and along with these was conducted a thirteenth statue, suitable for a god, that of Philip himself, so that the king exhibited himself enthroned among the twelve Gods."
ΚΑΙ ΤΩΝ ΜΕΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΩΝ ΟΜΟΕΘΝΩΝ ΟΝΤΩΝ ΤΩι ΚΟΡΑΓΩι ΚΑΙ ΤΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΣΥΜΦΙΛΟΤΙΜΟΥΜΈΝΟΥ, ΤΩΝ ΔΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΤΩι ΔΙΩΞΙΠΠΩι ΣΥΝΑΓΩΝΙΩΝΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΗΛΘΕΝ ΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΑΓΩΝΑ Ο ΜΕΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ ΠΟΛΥΤΕΛΕΣΙΝ ΟΠΛΟΙΣ ΚΕΚΟΣΜΗΜΕΝΟΣ, Ο ΔΕ ΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΣ ΓΥΜΝΟΣ ΥΠΑΛΗΛΙΜΜΕΝΟΣ, ΕΧΩΝ ΡΟΠΑΛΟΝ ΣΥΜΜΕΤΡΟΝ.
You avoid and avoid and avoid and avoid to give an answer!!!
Because you have not a clue!!
Once again it has been proven that your version of history is based on manipulation of historical facts! The rest of the world and academia subscribes to the fact that the Ancient Macedons were Hellenic of the Dorian group of Hellenes and u all r powerless to doubt these sources
U should decommission your history books to your toilet where now they can find some good and useful purpose at last!
> Then the Macedonian (Coragus) poised his long lance and charged, but the Greek (Dioxippus), when he came within reach, struck the spear with his club and shuttered it. After these two defeats, Coragus was reduced to continuing the battle with sword, but as he reached for it, the other leaped upon him and seized his swordhand with his left, while with his right hand the Greek upset the Macedonian�s balance and made him lose his footing. 17.100.6-7
Now, let me tell you the truth about your identity.
You are a Bulgarian. You speak Bulgarian. Your national heroes are Bulgarian. Your music and folklore is Bulgarian.
While ancient macedonians belonged to the family of Greek-speaking people, used the Greek alphabet (LANGUAGE), worshiped the Greek Olympian gods (RELIGION) and the royal house claimed descent through Heracles (BLOOD).
What does a slav have to do with these hellenic people and dares to call us...wannabes
.....T_esalians????ROFL !!!! Is this because u cannot spell TH morons???? this is also why u had to call thesaalonike ...solun huh????Funny monkeys!Btw the thessalians rnt even being mentioned by Livy in the specific sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
As for the quote here is the original: "The Aetolians, the Acarnanians, the Macedonians, men of the same speech, are united or disunited by TRIVIAL causes that arise from time to time" (Livy, History of Rome, b. XXXI par. XXIX).
ΕΝ ΓΑΡ ΤΟΙΣ ΕΤΑΙΡΟΙΣ ΠΑΡΑΛΗΦΘΕΙΣ ΤΙΣ ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ, ΟΝΟΜΑ ΚΟΡΑΓΟΣ, ΡΩΜΗι ΣΩΜΑΤΟΣ ΔΙΑΦΕΡΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΠΟΛΛΑΚΙΣ ΕΝ ΤΑΙΣ ΜΑΧΑΙΣ ΗΝΔΡΑΓΑΘΗΚΩΣ, ΠΑΡΟΞΥΝΘΕΙΣ ΥΠΟ ΤΗΣ ΜΕΘΗΣ
ΠΡΟΕΚΑΛΕΣΑΤΟ ΜΟΝΟΜΑΧΗΣΑΙ ΔΙΩΞΙΠΠΟΝ ΤΟΝ Α Θ Η Ν Α Ι Ο Ν, ΑΘΛΗΤΗΝ ΑΝΔΡΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΑΙΣ ΕΠΙΦΑΝΕΣΤΑΤΑΙΣ ΝΙΚΑΙΣ ΕΣΤΕΦΑΝΩΜΕΝΟΝ. These lines r just 5 lines before the text u posted which themacpropaganda news cutted from the other text to make u believe their shit
Here in these lines Diodorus says that Coragus who was macedonian , was drunk and challenged the athenian Dioxippus, who was an athlete to fight!
"Alexandros observed that his soldiers were exhausted with their constant campaigns. ... The hooves of the horses had been worn thin by steady marching. The arms and armour were wearing out, and THE HELLENIC CLOTHING was quite gone. They had to clothe themselves in materials OF THE BARBARIANS,..."
2000 years Before the destruction of United City States the teritory of the United city States was populated with Pelasgians and with coming of the hellens they were ASSIMILATED in Hellens (Herodote I, 57-58)
in which sence the quote that u just posted is supposed to help u out to prove that in the battle of haeronea the macedonians conquored the greeks?????
whatever idiot u r obviously tooo retarded to open up a book
And now my question:
How come a foreigner would conquer his enemy , and yet would choose to spread the enemy's culture and languge and not his own?Why Alexander did spread Hellenism since the Hellenes were just enemies he conquered?
And the neutral sides were Sparta, Argos, Arcadia, Messene.
The three last had alliances both with Athens and Philip but their pro-macedonian activity of 344/3 BC showed they were leaning towards Philip.The reason they didnt sent aid to Chaeronea in Philip's side was because of the blocking in Isthmus by Corinth and Megara. Sparta had withdrawn almost entirely from Greek affairs in 344 BC.
After the Battle of Chaeronea the Theban Army was destroyed and most of the Theban Sacred Band (the 300 elite troops of Thebes) lay dead. The Athenian army suffered a large loss as well.
It is believed that Philip was hesitant to fight the Greeks at Chaeronea. His doubt was not caused by fear of defeat of the Macedonian forces, but rather he feared that destroying the allied Greek forces at Chaeronea would certainly make for a revolt in the future.
The Battle of Chaeronea 338 BC, fought near Chaeronea, in Boeotia, was the greatest victory of Philip II of Macedon. There, Philip (accompanied by allied contingents from Thessaly, Epirus, Aetolia, Northern Phocis and Epicnemidian Locrian) defeated the combined forces of Athens and Thebes and initiated Macedonian hegemony in Greece.
I have to say that not all the Macedonians are brainwashed. There are some people who still keep their Bulgarian self-consciousness. A fact that deserve attention is that over 60 000 macedonians (including one ex-prime minister) applied and have received their Bulgarian citizenship for the last 3 years. This is what makes Skopie officials realy nervous.
LETTER OF 201 UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS ALL AROUND THE WORLD
We call upon you, Mr. President, to help - in whatever ways you deem appropriate - the government in Skopje to understand that it cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth. Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated.
The same motivation is to be seen in school maps that show the pseudo-greater Macedonia, stretching from Skopje to Mt. Olympus and labeled in Slavic. The same map and its claims are in calendars, bumper stickers, bank notes, etc., that have been circulating in the new state ever since it declared its independence from Yugoslavia in 1991. Why would a poor land-locked new state attempt such historical nonsense? Why would it brazenly mock and provoke its neighbor?
And here it comes the big falsification and twisting. First they declare their own Macedonian language, which is just dialect of the Bulgarian. Then they annonced that their neighbours Yugoslavia, Greece and most of all Bulgaria were ocupators. Now they claim that they don't belong to the Southern Slav familly and try to proof that they are direct descendants of Alexander The Great. Sure the Greeks don't like this at all :)
U have to turn the world upside down, erase the Greek region of Macedonia, disappear the evidence of its Hellenicity and change the opinion of all the academics of the world to have a chance for that one
How brainwashed and short sighted are you really to believe the impossible??
finds that depict them and mount olympus the home of the 12 gods lying in macedonia
4. U r a moron big time there is a list of inscriptions found that include names of macedonians participating in the olympic games Even alexander I the grandfather of alexander the greatdid
The greek Identity of the macedonians is being confirmed by the texts of the bible and the ancient greek, roman and jewish writers, from thousand ancient macedonian writings all written in greek, from the participation of the ancient macedonians in panhellenicgames and the amfictionies and from all the ancient greek theatres and temples found in the area of Macedonia and Asia Minor
There is not a single written or found evidence proving the oposite
Hmm lets see some facts about his life---> Born in Kilkis, present day Greece, Delchev graduated from the local BULGARIAN junior high school and the BULGARIAN men's high school "St Cyril and Methodius" in Thes/ki. He entered the military school in SOFIA in 1891. In 1894, Delchev became a BULGARIAN language teacher in a Bulgarian exarchate school in Stip where he met Gruev, the leader of the local committee of BMARC (BULGARIAN Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committees).
Delchevs family was forced to leave nowadays FYROM (then Southern Serbia) for being BULGARIAN. All descendants of Delchev (in fact of his siblings because he didnt leave children) today live in BULGARIA and consider themselves as Bulgarians. Delchev had never written anything in a language different from the BULGARIAN one.
What does a Bulgarian hero of 19th century has to do with Alexander the Great and his achievements?
This phrase of Alexander was taken by the so called Philotas trial, where he urges Philotas to speak in his native language in Persia. The propagandists from Skopje took that part of the text and use it to claim that the macedonians had their own language LOL nomatter that Curtius does not make any reference to any specific language. He doesn't refer to a "Macedonian language" at all. This is only an assumption made by the SlavoVardaskans!
And of course there is absolutely no evidence to support this assumption - that Philotas' native language was the "Macedonian language" .
The most possible is that Philotas started to speak in Persian (since they were in Persia and it would enable more people to understand... ) and Alexander asked him to speak in Greek which was his native language of course and the language he spread to the east!
Aristotle mentions a woman of Elis whose daughter by a Negro, was not Negroid but whose grandson was. (Gen. An. 1.18.722A; Hist. An. 7.6.586A.) This passage would be meaningless unless it referred to the offspring of a black-white union. Aristotle's general usage of :X8"l, furthermore, indicates that in these passages he clearly had in mind the Negro type.
Aristotle was born in Stageira Chalkidice Macedonia and received his education by one of the biggest ancient greek philosophers , PLATO in Athens
He returned and taught Alexander , he was the main factor the macedonians wanted to take revenge from the Persians on behalf of the rest of the Greeks
Wash your mouth before mentioning Aristotle u piece of shit
Since these overwhelming quotes confirm the fact that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek, the Greek Internet pages purposely avoid them, as they have no way of explaining them. But to the ancient peoples and to the ancient authors the distinctive ethnicity of the Macedonians was not a matter for debate - it was simply a fact.
taking an ancient greek text, and translate it wrongly, or avoid to include the rest of the data that doesnt comfort your pain is far from the actual facts
And once again should i inform u that i can easily find out the source from which u took and cut and pasted it??
If i know nothing try to answer my logical questions with your mind and stop the copy pasting u fool
All i know is that 220 famous historians archaiologist and academics from the most known universities of the whole world signed a letter which was sent to Obama to complain about your lies!
"The maladies and defects in the Greek scene of the fourth century were not hard to find. But its great and overriding merit is summed up in the word 'freedom.' With allowance made for the infinite variety promoted by so many independent governments, Greece was still broadly speaking a free country. This freedom was threatened and in the end extinguished by the coming of the great Macedonians." [p.8] [In Plutarch The Age of Alexander, noted by J.T.Griffith]
Lamian War 323-322 is also known as the "Hellenic War" by its protagonists. The Greeks, the Hellenes, were fighting the Macedonians led by Antipater at Lamia.
"Alexander was born on the sixth day of the month Hecatombaeon, which the Macedonians call Lous, the same day on which the temple of Artemis at Ephesus was burned down." [p.254] [Macedonians had a their own distinct calendar]
Therefore, if anybody is steeling this Macedonian symbol today, that is the modern Greeks, since they knew nothing about it until 1978, while the Macedonians had cherished it ever since its existence. We should point out that the original name of Vergina where the discovery was made in 1978, was Kutlesh. This original Macedonian name was replaced by the Greek name Vergina, after Greece swallowed 51% of the territory of Macedonia, including Kutlesh, with the
The Macedonians were not Greek, but simply Macedonians, and Macedonia was never a Greek land. Actually, the very first time that the modern Greeks have seen the Macedonian sun (Vergina sun) was only in 1978. However, the modern Macedonians had known about this symbol ever since Alexander the Great and his father Philip II had used it. The Macedonian sun can be found engraved on the centuries-old Macedonian churches and monasteries
The only thiefs are your people, people who came from ethiopia and now is number one gay people in the world. That people stolled Macedonian culture, territory and history.
the culture from Philip and Alexander till now, that culture. You improvice that is your, but its not. Malaka for your mother or malaka in your ass, hell ASS.
hahaha!!! your culture is Slavic Bastardian! Alexander was GREEK!! he fought for Greece! Not only for Macedonia (the Greek city-state). Instead of stealing of other nations' cultures and histories you better create your own. but i still doubt, because all people in your country are uneducated pieces of American butt licking!!! Gain some respect world wide! All historians (besides vardaskans) claim that you are just stealing of our history. Get out to Europe and open your eyes from the propaganda
България на Българите
Обединена България = Вардарска Македония + България + Западни покрайнини + Беломорска Тракия !!!!!
MrSlimshady989 1 year ago
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arikat1 1 year ago
IF MACEDONIA IS NOT GREEK HOW I CAN READ THE ANCIENT MACEDONIAN STONES????? BY THE WAY.........275 EUROPEANS AND AMERICANS HISTORY PROFESORS SINGED A LETTER TO OBAMA AND EXPLAINS WHY THE MACEDONIA IS GREEK.......IF YOU WANT I CAN SEND YOU THE LINK TO READ THE LETTER........YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW MUCH MORE THAN THE HISTORIANS???????????
kladitis 1 year ago
aaaaaaaxaxaxaxaxaxa! 0:26 ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ ΠΡΩΤΗΣ!!!!!!! GREEK WORD!!!!!!
kladitis 1 year ago
Makedonija Za Sekogas
Picka vi mater Grcka.. pust da ostane i Grcka
MKcasanova 2 years ago
Koj pee?
MakedonMK 2 years ago
Mile Kuzmanovski
Kosta139 1 year ago
lonng live macedonia
AlexanderTheGreatMKD 2 years ago
Here is an inscripted stone placed at the entrance of the goverment buiding in Skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians
"μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι
συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει.
I'm sure it will be easy for you to translate the language of your ancestors :-)
hoplitespao 2 years ago
In the genetic analizies publicated from the science newspaper of the American association for development of science, are explored the genetic codes of the Macedonians minority in northern Greece compared with the greeks. The explorations prooved great difference in the hromozom Y between the genetic compositions of the Macedonians and the Greeks.
Kosta139 1 year ago
In the report of the exploration, between the other, the Americans wrote that PEOPLE OF THE EGEUM MACEDONIA, the area which was ocupied by the greek army in 1913, IS NOT GREEK AND NEVER HAS BEEN GREEK. THEY ARE THE DESCENDENTS OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT OF MACEDON.
Kosta139 1 year ago
Ares was god of the war in the Hellenic culture, but in the Macedonian Ma was goddes of the war. Ares and Ma are not same gods. In the hellenic culture goddes of the beauty was Afrodita, in Macedonian was Zeirene. The Hellens hadn't god of the health or named as Pean who was god of the health in the Macedonian culture. For the Hellens Dionis was god of the wine and celebration, for the Macedonians Dionis was god of the spring.
Kosta139 1 year ago
Hellens hadn't god of the air named as Bedi which was in the Macedonian culture. Hellens hadn't god named as Ilion which in the Macedonian culture was god of the river Vardar and god of the war(for Hellens was Ares, but he was not also god of the river Vardar). From the name Ilion has origin the macedonian name Ilija. Tradition of celebrating the day of Ilion or St. Ilija still exist. Every year we celebrite the religious and NATIONAL holyday ILINDEN. That's on august the 2.
Kosta139 1 year ago
Macedonians believed in the god Ilion and they were gaving him victims before every battle. For the Macedonians it was greatest honor to fight in battle on august the 2 what was day of the Macedonian victory over the Hellens in the battle of Heronea. THE HELLENS HAD FORMED ALLIANCE AGAINST MACEDONIA AND IN THE BATTLE OF HERONEA HAD BEEN DEFEATED.
Kosta139 1 year ago
@Kosta139 Lions? Do u see any lions exist in Balkan area? So, how did they know what is a lion and even worship it?
bloodcorer 1 year ago
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tsutsunios 2 years ago
Macedonia for the Macedonians
TheAlexanderGreat 2 years ago 2
land: MACEDONIAN
name: MACEDONIAN
history: MACEDONIAN
heroes: MACEDONIANS
artifacts: MACEDONIAN
ruins: MACEDONIAN
coins: MACEDONIAN/ROMAN
language: INDO-EUROPEAN,SLAVIC,MACEDONIAN
ethnicity: MACEDONIAN
culture: OUR OWN CULTURE
secretcombination94 2 years ago 4
@secretcombination94 taka ke!
MrMakedon3c 5 months ago
Makedonija na Makedoncite!
Makedonija zasekogas!
Obedineta Makedonija!
Sloboda ili Smrt!
Da zivee Makedonija!
chelseathebestclub 2 years ago 2
Браво за клипот
Слобода или Смрт
+Обединета Македонија+
Vojvoda1987 2 years ago
Македонија на Македонците !!!
PrincessMKD 2 years ago
bravo
makedonija na makedoncite
UNITED MACEDONIA
mkdstyle 2 years ago
Македонија на Македонците
United Macedonia
Mak3d0n3c0T 2 years ago 2
А шо е финтата со ова шо сте го пишаале дека Гоце Делечев рекол. Тоа е најобичен цитат од роман кој само звучи убаво, а нема никаква историска важност, не дека Гоце стварно го е рекол. Поздрав
IMacedonian 2 years ago
The origin of the Skopjans as indicated in one of their own songs:
"Kade se chulo, videlo
Turchin vera da menuva
Vera da menuva
Kaurin da stanuva"
EPIMELIDES 2 years ago
odlicno video so mnogu jaka pesna ***** pozdrav bratu...sloboda ili smrt za makedonija!!!
vojvoda78 2 years ago
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macedonia to the macedonians!!!vardar+aegean+pi rin=republic of macedonia!!!macedonia will be united!!!solun will be the capital of macedonia,again!!!prepare for our and turkey invasion!!!death for greece!!!death for tatarija!!!
vojvoda78 2 years ago
+Обединета Македонија+
+Обединета Македонија+
+Обединета Македонија+
+Обединета Македонија+
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MACEDONIATIMELESS 2 years ago
Human Rights Watch / Helsinki
Denying Ethnic Identity - Macedonians of Greece, New York, 1994
The Helsinki Watch has, therefore, confirmed that the Macedonians indeed exist in Greece as a large minority. Helsinki Watch found the Greek government guilty for oppressing the Macedonian minority and demanded they be given their basic human rights to which they are entitled.
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
а и Турците го чекаат вистинскоит момент да ги удрат на Грците
Поздрав Македонци каде и да се Македонија е вечна
anger96 2 years ago
Македонија на Македонците
Обединета Македонија
Македонското име е вечно
Македонското име не се менува
anger96 2 years ago
отсекогаш сме постоеле и засекогаш ке постоиме!
Името не си го продаваме Името не си го даваме грците ке лазат најмалку уше 3 до 4 години но и на крај ке дојде светлиот ден кога Македонците ке удрат уште посилно на Грците и на Бугарите
anger96 2 years ago
Ministerial Council for Research into South-Eastern Europe
The most -typical examples of forced migration of Macedonians are to be found in eastern Macedonia, where Greek terrorist bands killed 29 and imprisoned 3,100 Macedonians and expelled 600 Macedonian families across the borders - and this in the period from February to the end of March 1945 alone. The situation was no different in the other areas of Aegean Macedonia.
PeceFromHeraklea 2 years ago
Македонија цела да е, секој да ја знае!!!
dimitardanailov 2 years ago
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Vojvoda1987 2 years ago
Macedonia Forever Macedonian!!!!
makedonkaac19 2 years ago
Македонија е постара и од Сонцето!
SWIFTerMKD 2 years ago
Туѓо не бараме, своето си го сакаме!
МнМ!
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LONG LIVE MACEDONIA
janedracevo 2 years ago
Macedonia never Greek!
nikaaki 2 years ago 2
MAKEDONIJA EDNA
MAKEDONIJA VECNA!!!!!
Ne ni moze nikoj nisto Makedonija ZASEKOGAS!!!!!
male4ka224 2 years ago 2
Makedonija e na Makedoncite
TheAlexanderGreat 2 years ago 2
and that one where it is being answered which language spoke alexander:
Diodorus of Sicily (17.67.1)
"After this Alexander left Darius's mother, his daughters, and his son in Susa, providing them with persons to teach them the GREEK language, and marching on with his army on the fourth day reached the Tigris River. "
sath8 2 years ago
Isocrates;
Pelasgians, a non hellenic population spoke a barbarian language that he don't understand. Only after learning the greek language did THEY BECOME greeks. If they speak greek unquestinably be classed as greek/ Isocrates in the Letter 9 to Archidamus .
what about that you shit face??
CasperMKD 2 years ago
What do the pelasgians have to do with the macedonians now????????
Skopjean salad with pieces of bullshit inside
οτι να'ναι
sath8 2 years ago
Στράβων Tesalia,the land between Hellenic lands and Macedonia .The population who live in Tesalia is with Pelazgian origin (Страбо, p. 221-4)
so??? ahahahahhahahahahah
what about strabo??? hellenic lands???
macedonian lands???/
ahahahaha fuckface !!!!!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
Tesalia again
Omg im cracking hereeeeeeeeeeeeee
Oh and psiiiiiiiiiiiit ghost look what strabo wrote
Strabo (Ancient geographer):
"And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece."
(Strab. VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones])
lololololol
sath8 2 years ago
Hi sath8,
it has been a while (almost a year?) that I saw a comment from you. I am glad that you still have the energy to fight for the "truth". I hope your job is not suffering since you spend quite a bit of time on youtube.
Cheers.
klimentohridski 2 years ago
and that where he makes clear that the Macedonians worshiped the twelve Greek Gods:
Histories, Chapter 16, 95.2
"Along with lavish display of every sort, Philip included in the procession statues OF THE TWELVE GODS brought with great artistry and adorned with a dazzling show of wealth to strike awe to the beholder, and along with these was conducted a thirteenth statue, suitable for a god, that of Philip himself, so that the king exhibited himself enthroned among the twelve Gods."
????
sath8 2 years ago
There is even a region in modern greece called aitoloacarnania!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U FUCKFACE
sath8 2 years ago
ΚΑΙ ΤΩΝ ΜΕΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΩΝ ΟΜΟΕΘΝΩΝ ΟΝΤΩΝ ΤΩι ΚΟΡΑΓΩι ΚΑΙ ΤΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΣΥΜΦΙΛΟΤΙΜΟΥΜΈΝΟΥ, ΤΩΝ ΔΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΤΩι ΔΙΩΞΙΠΠΩι ΣΥΝΑΓΩΝΙΩΝΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΗΛΘΕΝ ΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΑΓΩΝΑ Ο ΜΕΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ ΠΟΛΥΤΕΛΕΣΙΝ ΟΠΛΟΙΣ ΚΕΚΟΣΜΗΜΕΝΟΣ, Ο ΔΕ ΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΣ ΓΥΜΝΟΣ ΥΠΑΛΗΛΙΜΜΕΝΟΣ, ΕΧΩΝ ΡΟΠΑΛΟΝ ΣΥΜΜΕΤΡΟΝ.
sath8 2 years ago
and this includes what u posted and 2 lines more where the author mentions what kind of weapons they were using
Again he says that the first was macedonian and the second athenian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im telling STOP READING THE SHIT in YOUR PROPAGANDA SITES NOW
sath8 2 years ago
And motherfucker sth more: Aetolia was a region of ancient Greece, N of the Gulf of Corinth
And Corinth is in Peloponeseeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
U retard stfu and start to study a bit before u bullshit over the internet again!U r ridiculous!
sath8 2 years ago
"""while the Greeks favored Dioxippus ''''''''
AHAHHAHAHAH what a brainless bitch !!!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
You avoid and avoid and avoid and avoid to give an answer!!!
Because you have not a clue!!
Once again it has been proven that your version of history is based on manipulation of historical facts! The rest of the world and academia subscribes to the fact that the Ancient Macedons were Hellenic of the Dorian group of Hellenes and u all r powerless to doubt these sources
U should decommission your history books to your toilet where now they can find some good and useful purpose at last!
sath8 2 years ago
> Then the Macedonian (Coragus) poised his long lance and charged, but the Greek (Dioxippus), when he came within reach, struck the spear with his club and shuttered it. After these two defeats, Coragus was reduced to continuing the battle with sword, but as he reached for it, the other leaped upon him and seized his swordhand with his left, while with his right hand the Greek upset the Macedonian�s balance and made him lose his footing. 17.100.6-7
CasperMKD 2 years ago
sath8 @@@@
why don't you find for yourself an girlfriend and be a good gay like all greeks??
stop be wannabeeees!!! be greeks !!!
it will be best for all !!!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
I cannot argue anymore with some stupid gays and retard ethiopians...You are so stupid that nothing of I sad you did not understand.
Go to school first or at college, then talk about history, I told you Learn Some World History, not yours !!!
trajcekostov 2 years ago
Moron i pointed u out the ACTUAL FACTS
Of course u cannot argue cause u ve got nothing to reply as a pure ignorant u r
The infos i gave u r based ON ANCIENT TEXTS idiot and not on my mind
All the international scholars and their works r based on these texts
And u come here to doubt the credibility of these facts?
ONE SMALL QUESTION
how can u manage to handle so much humiliation ??
sath8 2 years ago
Idiot I don't have time for loosers like you, I told you some facts, you did not accept;
looooool scholars works with you texts loooooooool
trajcekostov 2 years ago
Our texts??
The texts r from ANCIENT AUTHORS do u understand that???????????????????????/ facts???? U probably mean faRts, cause facts nowhere near
sath8 2 years ago
impossible to understand who is the bigger counterfeiter of history!
Greeks or Bulgarians?
i think greeks are !!!
bulgars try to steal 200 years of macedonian history !!! but gaylads???
wannabeeeeee fuck offfffffffff
CasperMKD 2 years ago
So lets sum up what ve got here
A slav from ex yugoSLAV Vardaska, that carries a slavic name, speaks a bulgarian dialect, and sings in his anthem For now on, the flag flies
(that) of the Krushevo Republic
Goce Delchev, Pitu Guli
Dame Gruev, Sandanski!
calls the Greeks and the Bulgarians ......wannabes and history thiefs?????
L M A OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What a joke you are Vardarskans!
sath8 2 years ago
Now, let me tell you the truth about your identity.
You are a Bulgarian. You speak Bulgarian. Your national heroes are Bulgarian. Your music and folklore is Bulgarian.
While ancient macedonians belonged to the family of Greek-speaking people, used the Greek alphabet (LANGUAGE), worshiped the Greek Olympian gods (RELIGION) and the royal house claimed descent through Heracles (BLOOD).
What does a slav have to do with these hellenic people and dares to call us...wannabes
sath8 2 years ago
while he/she is totally unable even to give an etymology in his language of teh tem macedonia which he wanna use to define his ethnicity????//
WILL ANYONE OF U FINALLY GIVE ME ANY ANSWER DICKHEADS OR WHAT???
sath8 2 years ago
WANNABEEEEEEEE read this and go to hellllllll
"Tit Livi, book XXX, p. 29 the Akaranians ,Aetiolians ,Tesalians and Macedonias THEY SPEAK SAME language DIFEREN and NOT HELLENIC language !!! ""
CasperMKD 2 years ago
.....T_esalians????ROFL !!!! Is this because u cannot spell TH morons???? this is also why u had to call thesaalonike ...solun huh????Funny monkeys!Btw the thessalians rnt even being mentioned by Livy in the specific sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
As for the quote here is the original: "The Aetolians, the Acarnanians, the Macedonians, men of the same speech, are united or disunited by TRIVIAL causes that arise from time to time" (Livy, History of Rome, b. XXXI par. XXIX).
sath8 2 years ago
ps: All the historians should informed about the new discovery by skopianistan!The Aetolians and Acarnanians werent hellenic either!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA geeeeeeee cant stop laughing here!!!!!!!
UNBELIEVABLE I G N O R A N C E!!!!!!!!!
sath8 2 years ago
here is the original !!!!!!
"Aetolos, Acarnanas, Macedonas eiusdem linguae hominess'' -
MEANS : Aetolos,Acarnanas speak the same language as the Macedonians !!!!
where did you read that they speak greek???
or where did you read that they were greeks???
CasperMKD 2 years ago
thessalian r not there huh?/
ROFL thanx for admiting your ignorance!
From every sdource we have during ancient times it is well known they spoke greek sucker!!!!!!
sath8 2 years ago
where did you read that they speak greek???
or where did you read that they were greeks???
where?????????????
CasperMKD 2 years ago
The Macedonians and Alexander backed Coragus because he was one of them while the Greeks favored Dioxippus. 17.100.4.
????????
no comment???
ahahahahah wannabe so desperate to become an macedonian !!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
idiot Dioxippus was Athenian u dickface!!!
I found the original text in ancient greek:
ΕΝ ΓΑΡ ΤΟΙΣ ΕΤΑΙΡΟΙΣ ΠΑΡΑΛΗΦΘΕΙΣ ΤΙΣ ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ, ΟΝΟΜΑ ΚΟΡΑΓΟΣ, ΡΩΜΗι ΣΩΜΑΤΟΣ ΔΙΑΦΕΡΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΠΟΛΛΑΚΙΣ ΕΝ ΤΑΙΣ ΜΑΧΑΙΣ ΗΝΔΡΑΓΑΘΗΚΩΣ, ΠΑΡΟΞΥΝΘΕΙΣ ΥΠΟ ΤΗΣ ΜΕΘΗΣ
sath8 2 years ago
ΠΡΟΕΚΑΛΕΣΑΤΟ ΜΟΝΟΜΑΧΗΣΑΙ ΔΙΩΞΙΠΠΟΝ ΤΟΝ Α Θ Η Ν Α Ι Ο Ν, ΑΘΛΗΤΗΝ ΑΝΔΡΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΑΙΣ ΕΠΙΦΑΝΕΣΤΑΤΑΙΣ ΝΙΚΑΙΣ ΕΣΤΕΦΑΝΩΜΕΝΟΝ. These lines r just 5 lines before the text u posted which themacpropaganda news cutted from the other text to make u believe their shit
Here in these lines Diodorus says that Coragus who was macedonian , was drunk and challenged the athenian Dioxippus, who was an athlete to fight!
sath8 2 years ago
ahahahahahah you are stupid girl sath8 !!!!!
fuck you whore !!!!
where did i said that Dioxippus was not greek??
ahahahahahahah fuck off !!!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
casperMALAKA
Go open up a book or google it im not here to educate u idiot!
U did say that diodorus mentions the macedonians and the greeks as seperate
Why would he call him athenian 2 lines before and 2 lines after if he was GREEK??
Your stupidity is UNLIMITED!!!!!!!
sath8 2 years ago
"while the Greeks "!!
are you blind ,you bitch ??????
CasperMKD 2 years ago
u dumbshit
It could be easily translated while the REST of the greeks!!!
Its free translation !
And once again the author states before and after he was athenian
Hwe could continue calling him simply GREEK
IDIOT
sath8 2 years ago
ahahahahahhaha
fuck off brainless !!!!
he clearly says:
GREEKS favored Dioxippus !!!!!!
you can go and fuck yourself sath !!!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
you can't mix greeks and MACEDONIANS !!!
greeks are blackbushy haired fags !!
you are niggers !!
CasperMKD 2 years ago
"Alexandros observed that his soldiers were exhausted with their constant campaigns. ... The hooves of the horses had been worn thin by steady marching. The arms and armour were wearing out, and THE HELLENIC CLOTHING was quite gone. They had to clothe themselves in materials OF THE BARBARIANS,..."
(Diodoros of Sicily 17.94.1-2)
How about that one fuckface?
sath8 2 years ago
2000 years Before the destruction of United City States the teritory of the United city States was populated with Pelasgians and with coming of the hellens they were ASSIMILATED in Hellens (Herodote I, 57-58)
CasperMKD 2 years ago
wannabeeeeee
this from diodorus
The Macedonians and Alexander backed Coragus because he was one of them while the Greeks favored Dioxippus. 17.100.4.
CasperMKD 2 years ago
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vevcanec16 2 years ago
Грција :
35% Хелени
20% Словени
20% Феникијци
10% Илири
10% Германи
5% Македонци (а во северот 18%!!!)
vevcanec16 2 years ago
Македонија :
1. 30% Македонци (се мисли на антички)
2. 20% Германи
3. 15% Хелени (антички!)
4. 15% Словени
5. 10% Илири
6. 5% Феникијци
7. 5% Хуни
vevcanec16 2 years ago
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sath8 2 years ago
since when the peloponesian war is propaganda?
since when the allies of the specific battle that r being mentioned in ancient texts r propaganda
????????????????
Who do u think u r to doubt these facts??
Open up a fucken book for once u spastic retard
sath8 2 years ago
Lucius Aemilius Paulus (roman general):
"...In all my years of war, i have never in my life seen anything more terrifying, than those Macedonians advancing through the battlefield..."
Pydna 182 BC vs king Persey of Macedonia
trajcekostov 2 years ago
in which sence the quote that u just posted is supposed to help u out to prove that in the battle of haeronea the macedonians conquored the greeks?????
how dumb can u be.....
sath8 2 years ago
Xa Xa Xa
LoL !!!
don't make me laugh you pathetic, don' speak lies and propagand.
learn some world history, not your own imagine history.
trajcekostov 2 years ago
propaganda???????????omg what clown!!!!!
whatever idiot u r obviously tooo retarded to open up a book
And now my question:
How come a foreigner would conquer his enemy , and yet would choose to spread the enemy's culture and languge and not his own?Why Alexander did spread Hellenism since the Hellenes were just enemies he conquered?
sath8 2 years ago
And the neutral sides were Sparta, Argos, Arcadia, Messene.
The three last had alliances both with Athens and Philip but their pro-macedonian activity of 344/3 BC showed they were leaning towards Philip.The reason they didnt sent aid to Chaeronea in Philip's side was because of the blocking in Isthmus by Corinth and Megara. Sparta had withdrawn almost entirely from Greek affairs in 344 BC.
sath8 2 years ago
The battle of Chaeronea was a battle between two greek allies:
Combatants
Side A'
Macedonia, Thessaly, Epirus, Aetolia, Northern Phocis, Epicnemidian Locrians
Side B'
Athens, Beotian League (Thebes, etc), Euboean League, Achaean League, Corinth, Megara, Corcyra, Acarnania, Ambracia, Southern Phocis.
sath8 2 years ago
can you answer to me gayreeks about this?
If Philip or Alexander were Greeks, why then they wiil defeated you or themselfs at Chaeronea ????
stupid nationnnnnnnnnnnnn (headbang)
brainwashed heads, gay people nation and country....
trajcekostov 2 years ago
This question could only be asked by a total ignorant like u who doesn't know shit about the Hellenic history
And of course for all those that have the slightest knowledge the answer is toooo easy
As I told u and i repead , the ancient greek tribes were not organised in a sence of a
sath8 2 years ago
common nation the way we use the term today
There were several different tribes, organised in indipendent societes, which were trying to gain power over eachother
The result was several fights among these tribes and a constant competition among allied greek tribes
Take for example the peloponesian war between Athens and Sparta which lasted for 27 years, and the spartans won?
Were they not Hellenes as well??????
sath8 2 years ago
After the Battle of Chaeronea the Theban Army was destroyed and most of the Theban Sacred Band (the 300 elite troops of Thebes) lay dead. The Athenian army suffered a large loss as well.
trajcekostov 2 years ago
It is believed that Philip was hesitant to fight the Greeks at Chaeronea. His doubt was not caused by fear of defeat of the Macedonian forces, but rather he feared that destroying the allied Greek forces at Chaeronea would certainly make for a revolt in the future.
trajcekostov 2 years ago
The Battle of Chaeronea 338 BC, fought near Chaeronea, in Boeotia, was the greatest victory of Philip II of Macedon. There, Philip (accompanied by allied contingents from Thessaly, Epirus, Aetolia, Northern Phocis and Epicnemidian Locrian) defeated the combined forces of Athens and Thebes and initiated Macedonian hegemony in Greece.
trajcekostov 2 years ago
The battle of CHAERONEA (338 b.c.) is the place and time when Macedonian Falang t.e. Philip || of Macedon defeats you !!!!!!!!!!!!
what you gonna say about this ??????
trajcekostov 2 years ago
macedonia-evidence org
ahnte69 2 years ago
did Alexander the Great call himself MACEDONIAN or greek macedonian or hellenic macedonian?
ANSWER: Alexander the Great called himself Macedonian, just like the people of Republic of Macedonia.
I AM MACEDONIAN
I SPEAK MACEDONIAN
I COME FROM REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA
trajcekostov 2 years ago
*MACEDONIA has always been Macedonia.
*MACEDONIAN people have always been Macedonian.
*MACEDONIAN language has always been Macedonian
Macedonia belongs to Macedonia
trajcekostov 2 years ago
And now question for 20.000 Euro :
What nationality was Alexander The Great ?
- Greek.
Wrong answer !!!
It was Macedonian !!!!
trajcekostov 2 years ago
tragickostov
nationallity the way it is being used as a term in modern times, didnt exist among the ancient greeks uneducated slavic piece of stinky shit
For the moment u r the ones that r being VETOED and looks like it hurts huh?
sath8 2 years ago
Alexander named himself macedonian same as the Spartans who called themseves lakedaimonians and the Thebans who called themselves that way
Common link of all those: SAME LANGUAGE SAME RELIGION SAME CUSTOMS
while u have no link to them, if u start talking only dgeorgev is going to understand u, ur bulgar brother..dickhead
sath8 2 years ago
One is clear that Alexander conquer you !
and for the Veto, I don't care, i don't like to enter in Nato or Eu, understand? we don't need that.
fucking gay nation understand that we are Macedonians, and will be in the future, you can not change or denie that at the eyes of the world.
My country is recognized like Macedonia, Republic Of Macedonia...does it hurt you :)))
offcourse yes it hurt you.
die you gay nation, gayreek !
trajcekostov 2 years ago
I am Macedonian
Makedonija na Makedoncite!
beledotias 2 years ago
"Whoever says I am not Macedonian - I'll cut off his tongue; whoever says I am not Bulgarian - I'll cut off his head" Todor Alexandrov.
You can see this name on the clip above. Modern days Macedonians consider him as great figter for independance :)
This person just wanted to liberate the area and to join it where belongs - to the Bulgarian state.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
I have to say that not all the Macedonians are brainwashed. There are some people who still keep their Bulgarian self-consciousness. A fact that deserve attention is that over 60 000 macedonians (including one ex-prime minister) applied and have received their Bulgarian citizenship for the last 3 years. This is what makes Skopie officials realy nervous.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
can u please stop calling them macedonians?
Regards
sath8 2 years ago
ok, call greeks gayreeks or ethiopians, or perhaps hmmmmm :?:?:? gypciessssssssssss !!!
trajcekostov 2 years ago
LETTER OF 201 UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS ALL AROUND THE WORLD
We call upon you, Mr. President, to help - in whatever ways you deem appropriate - the government in Skopje to understand that it cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth. Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated.
Sincerely,
NAME TITLE INSTITUTION
brainstromnc 2 years ago
201 SIGNATURES SO FAR
Ad the list goes on....till there is no Skopje any more!
BY UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS ALL AROUND THE WORLD
GOODBYE SKOPIAN PROPAGANDists!!!
THE SHAME WILL BE ALL YOURS
brainstromnc 2 years ago
The same motivation is to be seen in school maps that show the pseudo-greater Macedonia, stretching from Skopje to Mt. Olympus and labeled in Slavic. The same map and its claims are in calendars, bumper stickers, bank notes, etc., that have been circulating in the new state ever since it declared its independence from Yugoslavia in 1991. Why would a poor land-locked new state attempt such historical nonsense? Why would it brazenly mock and provoke its neighbor?
brainstromnc 2 years ago
Well, the answer is obvious - if you want to build an completely independant state and nation what do you need?
1. A nation, diferent than neighbors.
2.Your own language;
3. History for that nation and country.
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
And here it comes the big falsification and twisting. First they declare their own Macedonian language, which is just dialect of the Bulgarian. Then they annonced that their neighbours Yugoslavia, Greece and most of all Bulgaria were ocupators. Now they claim that they don't belong to the Southern Slav familly and try to proof that they are direct descendants of Alexander The Great. Sure the Greeks don't like this at all :)
dgeorgiev 2 years ago
Only Repulbic Of Macedonia, nothing else stupid africans.
Don't steal history, make your own !!!
trajcekostov 2 years ago
U have to turn the world upside down, erase the Greek region of Macedonia, disappear the evidence of its Hellenicity and change the opinion of all the academics of the world to have a chance for that one
How brainwashed and short sighted are you really to believe the impossible??
V E T O TIMELESS... :)
sath8 2 years ago
V E T O in your gay ass, or for Hell ASS !
Don't you brainwash the people in the world !
trajcekostov 2 years ago
NOT MACEDONIA
FYROM
ONLY FYROM
Vardarska.........DO YOU REMEMBER THIS NAME΄΄;;
kyklades2009 2 years ago
macedonia-evidence org
ahnte69 2 years ago
YES GIVE BIG DICK TO MONKEYDONIANS
ahnte69 2 years ago
MACEDONIA IS GREEK
kyklades2009 2 years ago
Some macedonians tha participated in the Olympic games r:
Alexander I , Archelaus I, Philip II, Kliton,
Damasias, Lampos, Antigonus, Seleucus and others
No dimitar, no svetlana, no irina no petar
CLOWNS
sath8 2 years ago
1 and what is your name? Latin, vardaskanslav or english????IDIOT
2 Words without proofs r like a hole in the water . no credibillity just vardaskan bullshit that no academic accepts
3 They had their own gods? once again no proofs for that..Only temples dedicated to greek gods,
sath8 2 years ago
finds that depict them and mount olympus the home of the 12 gods lying in macedonia
4. U r a moron big time there is a list of inscriptions found that include names of macedonians participating in the olympic games Even alexander I the grandfather of alexander the greatdid
dimitardanailov swear as much as want
U still remain an uneducated wannabe
sath8 2 years ago
And to put things in order :
The greek Identity of the macedonians is being confirmed by the texts of the bible and the ancient greek, roman and jewish writers, from thousand ancient macedonian writings all written in greek, from the participation of the ancient macedonians in panhellenicgames and the amfictionies and from all the ancient greek theatres and temples found in the area of Macedonia and Asia Minor
There is not a single written or found evidence proving the oposite
U can cry now
sath8 2 years ago
Macedonia never hellenic or bulgarian!!
STOP WITH YOUR ANTI-MACEDONIAN PROPAGANDA!
bobo87mk 2 years ago
The question is when macedonia was Vardaskan u freak!!!!!!!
sath8 2 years ago
anti-macedonian propaganda...that is probably the most ridiculous thing i have ever ever heard
and the funniest part is that it is coming from a person that cannot give an etymology of the term macedonia in his slavic language
Helpless is their situation...really helpless
sath8 2 years ago
Macedonia was and will be forever MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS
Macedonijaa 2 years ago
Yeahhhhhh right LoL
sath8 2 years ago
Makedonija na Makedoncite!
beledotias 2 years ago
0:56
Goce Delchev
Hmm lets see some facts about his life---> Born in Kilkis, present day Greece, Delchev graduated from the local BULGARIAN junior high school and the BULGARIAN men's high school "St Cyril and Methodius" in Thes/ki. He entered the military school in SOFIA in 1891. In 1894, Delchev became a BULGARIAN language teacher in a Bulgarian exarchate school in Stip where he met Gruev, the leader of the local committee of BMARC (BULGARIAN Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committees).
sath8 2 years ago
Delchevs family was forced to leave nowadays FYROM (then Southern Serbia) for being BULGARIAN. All descendants of Delchev (in fact of his siblings because he didnt leave children) today live in BULGARIA and consider themselves as Bulgarians. Delchev had never written anything in a language different from the BULGARIAN one.
What does a Bulgarian hero of 19th century has to do with Alexander the Great and his achievements?
the cionclusions r yours........
sath8 2 years ago
3:08 : Another Joke from the macpropaganda sites!
This phrase of Alexander was taken by the so called Philotas trial, where he urges Philotas to speak in his native language in Persia. The propagandists from Skopje took that part of the text and use it to claim that the macedonians had their own language LOL nomatter that Curtius does not make any reference to any specific language. He doesn't refer to a "Macedonian language" at all. This is only an assumption made by the SlavoVardaskans!
sath8 2 years ago
And of course there is absolutely no evidence to support this assumption - that Philotas' native language was the "Macedonian language" .
The most possible is that Philotas started to speak in Persian (since they were in Persia and it would enable more people to understand... ) and Alexander asked him to speak in Greek which was his native language of course and the language he spread to the east!
sath8 2 years ago
haha in 0:25 your present macedonia is Greek,the macedonian coins is in Greek Language not in Slavic
HellenicFighter 2 years ago
BTW
here is something 4you
Aristotle mentions a woman of Elis whose daughter by a Negro, was not Negroid but whose grandson was. (Gen. An. 1.18.722A; Hist. An. 7.6.586A.) This passage would be meaningless unless it referred to the offspring of a black-white union. Aristotle's general usage of :X8"l, furthermore, indicates that in these passages he clearly had in mind the Negro type.
Have a nice day!
I am done w/u
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
Aristotle was born in Stageira Chalkidice Macedonia and received his education by one of the biggest ancient greek philosophers , PLATO in Athens
He returned and taught Alexander , he was the main factor the macedonians wanted to take revenge from the Persians on behalf of the rest of the Greeks
Wash your mouth before mentioning Aristotle u piece of shit
Certainly u r done, it is obvious
Get the hell out of here loser
sath8 2 years ago
Wash your pedareast mouth before you speak like that to a Macedonian, you filthy gayreek piece of a fucking shit!
Get a life and get laid,cause i hear in Greece there arent enough women,so you are desperate for fuck! hahahahahahaaha
Wiligot 2 years ago
Hahahaha!
You think Obama is on yous side?????
He call's us Macedonia DUMMY!!!
And you are Ethiopian your DNA shows!!
I can see that in your face!
Don't need DNA!
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
dummy?? Who is the dummy here actually?
We as far as i am concerned i believe that Obama is on Americas side actually
And stop watching the tree and not the forest
WHAT U SHOULD PAY ATTENTION AT IS THE FACT THE LETTER WAS SIGNED BUT 220 ACADEMICS AROUND THE WORLD
they dont have a clue but macpropagandanews has????
dummy........lmao!!!
sath8 2 years ago
The other moron that was here before ofcourse swallowed his tongue
I bet h's gonna come back to parrot his crap when ill be gone
Typical chickenfart
sath8 2 years ago
Since these overwhelming quotes confirm the fact that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek, the Greek Internet pages purposely avoid them, as they have no way of explaining them. But to the ancient peoples and to the ancient authors the distinctive ethnicity of the Macedonians was not a matter for debate - it was simply a fact.
YOU KNOW NOTHING!
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
Idiot
taking an ancient greek text, and translate it wrongly, or avoid to include the rest of the data that doesnt comfort your pain is far from the actual facts
And once again should i inform u that i can easily find out the source from which u took and cut and pasted it??
If i know nothing try to answer my logical questions with your mind and stop the copy pasting u fool
sath8 2 years ago
All i know is that 220 famous historians archaiologist and academics from the most known universities of the whole world signed a letter which was sent to Obama to complain about your lies!
That is the biggest pleasure for me
Keep on with your copy paste jokeparade now
laughing at your desperation here!
sath8 2 years ago
Ethnicity as it is understood in the modern sense of the word did not even exist as a concept for the ancient greeks
R u familiar with pelopponesian war
It was between the Spartans and Athenians and lasted...27 years
Pfffffff unlimited slavic ignorance
sath8 2 years ago
"The maladies and defects in the Greek scene of the fourth century were not hard to find. But its great and overriding merit is summed up in the word 'freedom.' With allowance made for the infinite variety promoted by so many independent governments, Greece was still broadly speaking a free country. This freedom was threatened and in the end extinguished by the coming of the great Macedonians." [p.8] [In Plutarch The Age of Alexander, noted by J.T.Griffith]
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
Lamian War 323-322 is also known as the "Hellenic War" by its protagonists. The Greeks, the Hellenes, were fighting the Macedonians led by Antipater at Lamia.
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
says who?
The historians from Skopje...???
ROFL cant stop laughing at your ignorance!
sath8 2 years ago
PLUTARCH:
"Alexander was born on the sixth day of the month Hecatombaeon, which the Macedonians call Lous, the same day on which the temple of Artemis at Ephesus was burned down." [p.254] [Macedonians had a their own distinct calendar]
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
Oh yeah and the copy paste parade from makpropaganda news started
How typical.........
sath8 2 years ago
I ve got 100 pages of quotes here
Maybe i should start to copy paste them as well huh???
sath8 2 years ago
ETHIOATHENOIDIOTAS!
One more time:
REMEMBER 338 B.C.
MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA
and how do u remember that? U arrived in the Balkans 1 0 0 0 years LATER
Geee these people r pathetic lol
sath8 2 years ago
And dont run away chicken i know u r reading the comments!!!
sath8 2 years ago
What was the language of instruction when Aristotle taught Alexander?
What language was carried by Alexander with him on his expedition to the East?
Why do we have ancient inscriptions in Greek in settlements established by Alexander as far away as Afghanistan, and none in Slavic?
Why did Greek become the lingua franca in Alexanders empire if he had actually a language of his own?
Why was the New Testament written in Greek rather than Slavic?
ANSWER DICKHEAD
sath8 2 years ago
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sath8 2 years ago
Well You are liter shade of black than, hahaha
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
Therefore, if anybody is steeling this Macedonian symbol today, that is the modern Greeks, since they knew nothing about it until 1978, while the Macedonians had cherished it ever since its existence. We should point out that the original name of Vergina where the discovery was made in 1978, was Kutlesh. This original Macedonian name was replaced by the Greek name Vergina, after Greece swallowed 51% of the territory of Macedonia, including Kutlesh, with the
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
The Macedonians were not Greek, but simply Macedonians, and Macedonia was never a Greek land. Actually, the very first time that the modern Greeks have seen the Macedonian sun (Vergina sun) was only in 1978. However, the modern Macedonians had known about this symbol ever since Alexander the Great and his father Philip II had used it. The Macedonian sun can be found engraved on the centuries-old Macedonian churches and monasteries
MAKGIRL333 2 years ago
MAKIDIOT
the macedonians were and are HELLENES
from ancient time till modern times
They spread Hellenism and not slavism
They did that 1000 years before the arrival of your gipsy ancestors, who didnt even have an alphabet when they came
And they were concidering themselves descdants of the biggest ancient greek Heroes such as hercules and Achilles
SCREW U ALL ALONG WITH YOUR SLAVIC KIND
sath8 2 years ago
Македонија е на Македонците
SWIFTerMKD 2 years ago
such a paradox to say sth like that by using the kind of letters u did
So so funny! What does that script have to do with anything macedonian u thiefs???
ANSWER FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE LIVES
sath8 2 years ago
ouuu we are talking about Thiefs !?
The only thiefs are your people, people who came from ethiopia and now is number one gay people in the world. That people stolled Macedonian culture, territory and history.
Shame on you poor ethiopian gayreeks nigers.
Macedonia For Macedonians !!!
trajcekostov 2 years ago
hahaha... yes... grow up and learn what the black color looks like..
arxidamos13 2 years ago
Yes I know how it looks like, like the darknest or the people who doesn't have country gypcies..I forgot that I may use that word for you, GYPCIES !
trajcekostov 2 years ago
Macedonian culture...?
U joke idiot
Macedonian culture was hellenic and only HELLENIC
The question is what that has to do with anything slavic moron
Be brave and answer!
As for the rest about ethiopia: Ya wish to have the culture of ethiopian people u losers with no history, at least they ve got their own!MALAKA
sath8 2 years ago
the culture from Philip and Alexander till now, that culture. You improvice that is your, but its not. Malaka for your mother or malaka in your ass, hell ASS.
trajcekostov 2 years ago
idiot and uneducated to the max slav
Alexander was sliping with Homer's ILIAD under his pillow
What is your link to the culture he served motherfucker big time??????
sath8 2 years ago
hahaha!!! your culture is Slavic Bastardian! Alexander was GREEK!! he fought for Greece! Not only for Macedonia (the Greek city-state). Instead of stealing of other nations' cultures and histories you better create your own. but i still doubt, because all people in your country are uneducated pieces of American butt licking!!! Gain some respect world wide! All historians (besides vardaskans) claim that you are just stealing of our history. Get out to Europe and open your eyes from the propaganda
arxidamos13 2 years ago