Mixing: How To Layer Guitars for a Fuller Sound

[defection]

sounds shit.

[egosband]

Blending idea is cool... but hell this sounds terrible.

[jrhager84]

@egosband

It's because they're entirely WAY too much low end on those guitars... If there is a bass on that track, it'd be a nightmare... Forget about the kick as well... lol

[codyvolvagialloyd]

did u just copy and paste the tracks..that still gives u a mono sound..in order to get stereo sound you need to actually record the take 4 times instead of just copy and pasting..just wasnt sure what you did here

[jrhager84]

@codyvolvagialloyd

Not technically, as the waveforms are being processed differently, and if you pan them, it's different enough to 'sound' stereo. I will say, however, that separate takes is the *better* way to do it.

Another way around it is to pitch shift the duped track by a few cents, and delay between 15-25ms on one side.

[DJustice91]

This is awesome, do you think this would work well for an acoustic guitar recording?

[WinkSound]

@DJustice91 Hi, thanks for watching! This technique works great for acoustic guitar as well. You also get creative and apply to other instruments like vocals and drums to design fuller sounds all around.

[DJustice91]

@WinkSound Wow thanks for such a quick response! You WinkSound guys rule. Keep it up! I work with tons of acoustic sessions (often no drums or electric guitars/MIDI at all) and I'd love to hear more tips on acoustic guitars and how to get the best sound out of them.

[WinkSound]

@DJustice91 We'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the feedback

[javier0al]

Hello, It would be really cool if you make the same demo of dotted 8 note using only the DD7, thanks, hope you share this with us

[mrrodschmidt]

clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip hurts my ears

[RustyIronloins]

terrible... very bad advice, but at least you can hear the results are terrible just by watching the vid.

[SuperJamesus]

@RustyIronloins yep

[jsbrannock78]

Fail!

[emcitement]

These sound awful.

I recommend you try out some of the good amp sims out there like the Lepou ones and use some good impulses. (Can get lots of impulses on guitarampmodeling/ anywhere on the internet)

And if you're not going to double/ quadtrack, then at least move the clips by a few miliseconds because just using different tones on each track doesn't add any form of stereo separation at all.

[SuperJamesus]

@emcitement i second that! these sound like they were being played in very many wooly hats. i'm a professional i know , also i am awesome.

[WinkSound]

@GabrielDmusic Hi, thanks for your feedback. For demonstration purposes the tutorial was done using a copy of the original signal. Your correct in that layering separate takes gives the recording a fuller sound and possibly even more dynamics since you then get slight nuances from take to take. We'll keep your suggestion in mind for all future tutorials. Thanks for tuning in!

[zampination]

Listen if possible this first attempt on mixing metal music kind like heaven shall burn do in their albums... Better versions will follow soon. ENJOY!

/watch?v=MoWA_XqykIM

[JimmyFeign]

why does this guy look like he just got off the crack pipe?

[19BARD85]

@JimmyFeign cuz ur a fag thats why

[HxCorpse]

Hey Justin, I am trying to effectively create a quite metalcore/hardcore type guitar tone using sans amp. This video is very good but it really demonstrates how to create a rock distortion... but if you could make another video or just send me a reply with some pointers on how to create that sort of guitar tone achieved by bands like Parkway Drive, Terror, Trapped Under Ice...etc it'd be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

[johansugarev]

Not the best advice I've seen. Why put a bassy sounding amp on the side?

[slut432]

can i use guitar i recorded in riffworks ?

[jawsrock1]

This is a cool idea in this video. I think it would work even better if you apply a completely wet delay with an extremely short time to at least one of the tracks before the distortion to make it sound like multiple takes which I believe would make it sound even bigger and cooler. I'll definitely impliment this in my own studio though.

[5TheKingOfPop5]

I would parametric EQ your voice on about 4-5 khertz , it doesn't sound bright enough... What mic did you use ?

[RokerBorut]

The idea itself is good, but i didn't like the actual demonstration too much. It would be much nicer, if you have a real rock sounding guitars from a real amp, or amplitube or guitar rig at least.

[glassprison01]

oops I meant to type miked *tracks, as in outboard amps

[WiNKsound]

@glassprison01 Gotcha. We'll keep this in mind for our next batch of tutorials. Thanks for the suggestion. In the mean time let us know if there's anything else we can help out with.

[glassprison01]

I guess these are good tips if you live in an apartment or something...what about using miked racks? Would love to see one on that

[WiNKsound]

@glassprison01 Great suggestion. Do you mean outboard guitar stacks or guitar amp modeling plugins?

[guitargamery]

by the way: bad way to record and set a guitar to record...horribis to a point that wont sound to a guitar at all..well you dont need to go very far here on YT to find great channels showing how to make a great recording guitar sound!!

[cratedigger89]

I love how you guys say "I'm doing this in Pro Tools, but you can utilize the techniques in your favorite software." It's very reassuring. Most music people are snobs and say you can only make the best music in xyz program. Love the channel. Keep up the good work!

[WiNKsound]

@cratedigger89 Thats the whole idea to get rid of that snobbiness. There is no need for that stuff but unfortunitly it will always be there. Thank you for the positive feedback! Let me or anyone at winksound know if you have any questions, comments or ideas on music production

Talk to you soon

Justin

winksound

[cratedigger89]

@WiNKsound will do! Take care!

[Intotheorchard]

@cratedigger89 Pro tools is an industry standard, and probably always will be, but you can get a professional sound out of a free DAW with free VSTs.

[cratedigger89]

@Intotheorchard That has been my experience. I use ACID, and AudioTuts has some great articles and links to free VSTs that are really fantastic.

[aug71]

How do you make the rhythm come out the right speaker and the lead guitar in the left speaker?

[WiNKsound]

@aug71 hello What you can do is make sure you are recording the guitars to mono tracks. Once that is finished utilize the panner to place or move the sound source throughout the stereo field which ever way youd like

Hope that helps and get back to me with any questions

Talk to you soon

Justin

winksound

[krank2910]

@aug71

ahahah

[ShadowBrave21]

acid pro. pro tools. or sonar? wat would u say is best

[WiNKsound]

@ShadowBrave21 I have never really used acid or sonar. Pro tools and logic are the only DAW's I am familiar with. Best thing to do is donwload some demos ofthe software if you can and check out what fits your workflow best. They all do the same thing its just a matter of workflow and prefernce on how things are done/placed in the DAW

Talk to you soon

Justin

winksound

[DiamondDimebagDarrel]

woow!! now that's HD O.o

[MokuShinobi]

i find its best when you pan them only slightly away from eachother all on one side! it makes it thicker and sound like 1 warm instrument instead of a load of guitars all around the place! you could do that twice and have one on one half and one on the other which is a reallly think sound probably best for metal!

[edavidmartinez]

Thanks Justin, I actually double track all guitar parts with two different mics totaling 4 tracks per song, I mainly wanted to know how you tracked for this video specifically but thanks for the info anyway. Will you guys be doing any videos dealing with more in-depth mixing techniques?

Thanks again Justin!

[edavidmartinez]

Did you record each track separately or did you duplicate the original track three more times? Great tutorial, thanks!

[WiNKsound]

@edavidmartinez Hello Thank you for the support and positive feedback. I would highly recommend recording all the guitars on seperate takes. It may be time consumming but the "human errors" will give the performances alot more stereo width, presences, and feeling.

I hope that helps out. Talk to you soon

Regards,

Justin

winksound

[Rizzy55]

The highend for that guitar sounds like an electric razor. You have to use a better sound than that if you want to get your point across . That is just about the worst distortion sound.

[WiNKsound]

@Rizzy55 Hello Of course I would love to have the guitars sound amazing but for the purpose of a tutorial I feel it gets the point and technique across. Let me know besides sound wise what I can do to improve on the tutorials. Let me know if anything needs any clearing up or more information.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Justin

winksound

[calimusic2007]

@WiNKsound Great tutorial!

[calimusic2007]

@Rizzy55 the key to layering multiple guitar tracks is the variations of each layer. they cannot all sound fat and heavy or you loose the impact you want.

[WiNKsound]

@calimusic2007 Yes for sure. This is just a very basic idea. Different octaves, keys, effects and different guitars/amps/mics/players will definitly enhance the sound.

Talk to you soon

Justin

winksound

[kac123ige2]

very helpful

[ClarckCunt]

Now this is interesting!!!! Thanks guys! Great take on this.