In 4 yrs in Boston, I could get anywhere on public transit. I wish the same for St. Louis, but it has a long, long way to go. And, while I know it's NOT about the Cards, I am old enough to remember what it was like getting to a game before Metro & am grateful for the alternative, however crowded. We ALL need public transit-- for the economy, for the services provided to us by people dependent on public transit & for the environment! Please Vote Yes on Prop A!
I am disgusted with the way that people who have disabilites are represented in this commercial! By the looks of it people who have disabilities do not work, go to school or enjoy taking in a local sporting event. I beg to differ. I support the cause, just not the way in which the message was delivered. Come into the 21'st century. People who have disabilities work, go to school and enjoy life just like thier non-disabled peers.
Forget about the Cardinal game - this proposition is about getting people to work every day. I suggest you go to Civic Center or CWE or North Hanley or Fairview Heights or 8th and Pine and sit and watch for a few hours one day. What do you think will happen to the St. Louis economy if all those people didn't have a way to get to work?
Nkasoff -- your math is soo bizarre! 4 hours -- are you kidding? Each car on each train has 72 seats. Each train has 2 cars. That is 144 people seated. Let's pretend their are only 200 people on each train for a Cardinal game (laughable). Every 7.5 minutes a train reaches Busch from each direction carrying 200 people. So we have 16 trains an hour with 200 people each. Simple multiplication has 8000 people in an hour getting to the game.
St. Louis will never OK this. People like Bombledotcom (Jim Flint) went to school in STL and probably has never left. He doesn't understand that sheer volume doesn't cover costs on nearly all public transit, but it drastically improves the quality of life for EVERYONE in the community. STL will stay in the stone ages, afraid of riding a train with black people for the next 30 years. I ride the train with black people, and only a few are crazy
St. Louis won't approve Prop A. The people there are trapped in the stone ages and will be forever. That is why I left and moved to Chicago. They idea of a progressive city is foreign to them.
Whether or not that figure about sports games is right (and you aren't considering buses) is completely irrelevant. St Louis is lacking good public transit, without which it will be impossible to build a strong city center and decrease the urban decay that is spread throughout. Look at any major thriving city- SF, Boston, DC, NYC, Chicago- the areas served by the most public transit are the most vibrant and desirable neighborhoods with the most business. Right now, StL looks more like Detroit.
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Another day, another lie from Citizens for Modern Transit. Metrolink brings 10,000 people to the games? At 200 people per train, it would take more than 4 hours to do that.
The chief campaign principle for Proposition A:
"There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it."
In 4 yrs in Boston, I could get anywhere on public transit. I wish the same for St. Louis, but it has a long, long way to go. And, while I know it's NOT about the Cards, I am old enough to remember what it was like getting to a game before Metro & am grateful for the alternative, however crowded. We ALL need public transit-- for the economy, for the services provided to us by people dependent on public transit & for the environment! Please Vote Yes on Prop A!
Lupinssupins 2 years ago
I am disgusted with the way that people who have disabilites are represented in this commercial! By the looks of it people who have disabilities do not work, go to school or enjoy taking in a local sporting event. I beg to differ. I support the cause, just not the way in which the message was delivered. Come into the 21'st century. People who have disabilities work, go to school and enjoy life just like thier non-disabled peers.
Timmysmom1298 2 years ago
Forget about the Cardinal game - this proposition is about getting people to work every day. I suggest you go to Civic Center or CWE or North Hanley or Fairview Heights or 8th and Pine and sit and watch for a few hours one day. What do you think will happen to the St. Louis economy if all those people didn't have a way to get to work?
suwhitestl 2 years ago
Nkasoff -- your math is soo bizarre! 4 hours -- are you kidding? Each car on each train has 72 seats. Each train has 2 cars. That is 144 people seated. Let's pretend their are only 200 people on each train for a Cardinal game (laughable). Every 7.5 minutes a train reaches Busch from each direction carrying 200 people. So we have 16 trains an hour with 200 people each. Simple multiplication has 8000 people in an hour getting to the game.
Even so this prop is not about the Cardinals.
suwhitestl 2 years ago
St. Louis will never OK this. People like Bombledotcom (Jim Flint) went to school in STL and probably has never left. He doesn't understand that sheer volume doesn't cover costs on nearly all public transit, but it drastically improves the quality of life for EVERYONE in the community. STL will stay in the stone ages, afraid of riding a train with black people for the next 30 years. I ride the train with black people, and only a few are crazy
wakeboarder1616 2 years ago
St. Louis won't approve Prop A. The people there are trapped in the stone ages and will be forever. That is why I left and moved to Chicago. They idea of a progressive city is foreign to them.
wakeboarder1616 2 years ago
Let the 10,000 + 100,000 people pay for it. If ridership is that high, then the money should be there in fares.
Vote NO on Prop A.
bombledotcom 2 years ago
How are some of those people supposed to pay the higher fares then, if they can't get to their jobs to make the money to pay for the fares???
If we want to build StL's reputation, we've got to build up our public transit.
erinlanham 2 years ago
If ridership is as high as the commercials suggest, sheer volume can pay for improvements, not higher taxes.
bombledotcom 2 years ago
Whether or not that figure about sports games is right (and you aren't considering buses) is completely irrelevant. St Louis is lacking good public transit, without which it will be impossible to build a strong city center and decrease the urban decay that is spread throughout. Look at any major thriving city- SF, Boston, DC, NYC, Chicago- the areas served by the most public transit are the most vibrant and desirable neighborhoods with the most business. Right now, StL looks more like Detroit.
jeffscott534 2 years ago 4
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Another day, another lie from Citizens for Modern Transit. Metrolink brings 10,000 people to the games? At 200 people per train, it would take more than 4 hours to do that.
The chief campaign principle for Proposition A:
"There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it."
nkasoff 2 years ago
That's why I'm voting "yes" on Proposition A!
Streetcar1743 2 years ago