why would anyuone need to fabricate gaffes by this imbecille, he screwed up the swearing in process, it was supposed to be such a proud day for niggers but it was for ever sullied by his retarded inability to speak properly,
when he came to britain he spoke some dumb speach through the national anthem while standing next to the queen, then he thougtht it was 2008 not 2011.
this man is living proof that even half niggers are beyond salvation, slavery was too good for them.
TROLINS IS A BITCH, I BET YOU WONT SHOW YOUR NAME OR FACE, IM NOT A COWARD ILL SHOW MY REAL NAME. I BET THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN SAY NIGGER OTHER THAN WITH YOUR BUDDIES, 500 BUCKS SAYS YOULL NEVER HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT FACE TO FACE
Slowly, people ARE starting to realize what Fox and other media outlets are all about... It's time for the News to be News again. 3 part solution: 1. Every channel must provide a 1 hour News program WITHOUT COMMERCIALS. 2. News programs should not be rated by any Ratings system. 3. All News Channels live by the same rules, but are "Pay TV" for revenues as opposed to advertising.
Fair and Balanced????? I think they are fair and balanced among Republican Party differences and otherwise unfair and unbalanced. Then again CNN and MSNBC are just as partisian, MSNBC even more so.
@chilltree true ignorence, you really think that working together make you the richest ass on the mountian, then you dont know how to hussle for shit. they arnt working together, acctually this is the time in recent history that we are so apparently seperated, not us but the world. i suggest you find something worth a damn and cherish it. things on the inside wont change, the world needs to stop holding its lungs and just let in that totally toxic air, and rot off like science intended
@cobhcmofo313 "and just let in that totally toxic air, and rot off like science intended" What? I don't know the context of this statement, but "science" itself doesn't have "intention" and if it did, "rotting off" would be a lot more peaceful (as it is when people are not stricken with some horrible disease generally caused by humans) than it is. Again though, we're not "intended" to "breathe in toxins"
....though I agree about just finding what matters to you and saying fuck it after that
@jesse7037 yes because my mind at 4am forgeting how to spell is a way to define my ability to think, i figured by the words i used you would guess that giving a shit isnt my forte, but whatever i guess you win on the smallest scale. good for you get a cookie for yourself
@tube2a Rupert Murdoch is and ever has been a staunch conservative and never "supported" Hillary Clinton or any other Democratic candidate. Where do you get these "facts?" What is your source?
@TaterGumfries and obama is honest ?? find me one honest politition and i will find u an honest journo from fox news. honestly and politics dnt go together. no offence.
Liberals are not the only victims of fox news biased : see Ron Paul
Also... fox news' owner was actually a supporter of hillary clinton, thats why they were giving her such good coverage and was likely a reason why they jumped on this "gaffe".
But lets be honest here... what channel besides fox news reported on obama's mishap when he stated that there was 54 or whatever states? Im not justifying fox new's bias but picking on their bias is a bit dishonest in that every other news station is liberally biased.
@LiberalViewer Most of the people here do not seem to understand your logic... but I came here to say that it's on point, and good work! From the small clip that Fox News shows, their logic was correct also.It appeared that Obama was implying that Rockefeller and Clinton had opposing votes. BUT, in context of the whole speech Oabama including Rockefeller's name was impromptuwith no real significance, except to acknowledge him. Fox news should not have left out the second part of the statement.
first of all why dont you talk about EVERY STORY that msnbc and cnn either spins or DONT EVEN COVER to try to manipulate the american people to supporting all the horrible and failed policies put into place today. Ide beleive the fox news reporter over obama and you any day of the year because they actually do real unbiased reporting unlike you LIBERAL IDIOTS THAT ARE CHANGING OUR COUNTRY FOR THE WORSE WITH EVERY BILL AND EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND THAT WE DONT HAVE.
anyone that supports a republican or a democrat is extremly gullable. they all have the same agenda and that is to get more and more power and take away your freedom. both parties are controlled by the same mastermind and they are simply playing the american people. Anyone that thought obama was going to make a change iare the most unintelligent people alive. He's doing the same stuff that bush did. Why? because they both get their orders from higher up.
Fox News owner is Ausie born & feels that he is not recognized by the American elite, so uses his media to weaken American unity: Conservatives versus Liberals.
Is it coincidence that he has put his weight behind the less intellectual part of America, the conservatives and creating education/elite hating population that saw to it the election of G.W Bush, who as predicted took America's economy from surplus to burn down the house/two wars etc etc...
Obama's point was clear. Anyone who read it would have voted against it. Well...that was incorrect. Thus, a gaffe. Sorry folks. Maybe some faked documents saying he didn't show up for his National Guard duty?!
Obama's point was clear. Anyone who read it would have voted against it. Well...that was incorrect. Thus, a gaffe. Sorry folks. Maybe some faked documents saying he didn't show up for his National Guard duty?!
And, of course, left-wing groups aren't notorious for stealing right-wing newspapers on college campuses and burning them, or shouting down conservative speakers. This is all just part of the vast right-wing Republican media machine, spewing lies and tainting godly and principled progressives.
And Bill Moyers would never stack his taxpayer-funded show with leftwing pundits then claim he's fair and balanced, or denounce right-wing yahoos like Bill O'Reilly, Jerry Falwell and Rush Limbaugh while embracing left-wing yahoos like Keith Olbermann, Jeremiah Wright, Al Franken and Michael Moore.
And liberals like Naomi Wolf and Gore Vidal would never falsely claim that GW Bush was going to steal the 2008 election, and the L.A. Times would never print false innuendo and rumors about a Republican gubernatorial candidate days before an election.
Yeah, someone like Paul Krugman would never falsely claim that Newt Gingrich spoke out against the Civil Rights Act in his column. Having the conscience of a liberal, he has too much integrity to smear people (much like Ted Kennedy would never smear a Supreme Court nominee on the Senate floor).
This video is more guilty than Fox News was at the segment in question. First, it is self evident that the person was providing an analysis of Barack's chosen words. The analyst says and that there were intentional suggestive overtones in Barack's language, which was very likely given the high level politics at play. Furher, the creator of this video seems to think that viewers don't know the difference. Secondly, this was not "Fox News Reporting" that Barack made a gaffe, it was an analyst.
What were you expecting from Rupert Murdoch? The truth? Facts? Never going to happen. They are a TABLOID NEWS (like the enquirer) STATION by their own admission. That is the business Murdoch's father was in when he died and Murdoch took over at 22 years of age.
Please cite one lie, or misrepresentation of fact, from Rachel Maddow. Her "agenda" is educating the public on the FACTS. And she is very open about her political leanings -- unlike Fox Snooze liars.
The list of lies from Fox Snooze is far too long to enumerate. They literally CAMPAIGN SHAMELESSLY FOR REPUBLICANS, AND SPEW REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS CONSTANTLY. They have no time left to report the news. Shep Smith is the ONLY exception. Although OReilly has, of late, grown a conscience.
I wouldn't say any politician of any party tells the truth, especially not regularly. They all take money in special interests.
The GOP lies a little more and on grander scales. But worse they're hypocritical. They are the "Values" party, but yet they still always get caught catching a BJ from some dude? While male Demos get hot ass (and quite smart) female hookers.
Don't look at it as Demo or GOP, that's just more partisan BS we don't need. Just acknowledge the rights & wrongs being done.
@Maziyar I agree. If the federal communications commission was charged with enforcing truth, then Jerry Springer, The Enquirer, Weekly World News, Professional Wrestling and Fox News would all have to admit they are complete Bullshit.
You caught them! They have been maintaining for the last two months or so that their hard-news isn't conservative commentary. That's Shepard Smith talking to someone covering the campaign. For those who don't remember, they used to do reports "just the facts" and have the type of comment for their "in-depth" analysis. Of course, that was the good ol' days of cable news.
Ok, so we all know that FNC leans to the right. I really don't think Liberal Viewer is swaying any opinions here. The purpose of all these videos is to allow liberals to say "yeah fox news sucks maaan!" I think liberals are just mad because they don't control the media like they used to and the ratings fox news gets are through the roof. Libs are pretty funny creatures. They're fun to laugh at, and its fun to watch them go crazy over fox news.
See, you're treating liberals as if they were rabid animals that are fun to watch in a zoo where they are safely locked away. You get the idea that your side is perfect. I'm not saying that liberals haven't had their fair share of gaffes but Fox News sure as hell made quite a few on its own.
@tglass55 I agree that if they are a station of right leaning editorialits and commentators, that's ok. The problem I have is with their claim to be a news organization. "Fair and balanced"? "We report, you decide"?
The problem with a lot of the left is that they do not seem to admit to being biased. The leftist media claims to be fair and balanced when it comes to I am a libertarian right winger and most intelligent conservatives have no problem admitting we are biased. I think everyone needs to be honest and admit we all have biases and there is no clearly fair and balanced reporting.
That's absolutely true, every news channel is biased, and they sometimes have full raging flame-wars to deny it. But we also have to take into consideration that some take it a bit too far.
I saw an article somewhere that stated that, while other news stations carried on their daily programme after Scott Brown's victory speach, Fox News broadcasted it, and other Brown-related clips, all day long; much more time than when Obama was elected. That's kinda flagrant.
To Grant that claim is to say we shouldn't try for unbiased reporting. The purpose of news is to inform the viewer. Fox has it in their advertisting--"Fair and Balanced. You Decide." People don't like watching that type of reporting. Let's not assume that because it doesn't exist, we shouldn't try. We stopped eating our vegtables and they gave us all sweets to live on. Acceptance of the fact and allowing it to continue are two seperate matters entirely.
any1 know how i can get in on the fox news conspiracy? i have been trying to join the vast right-wing for some time now and am havining no luck finding a charter member for my dues, card etc.......
Everyone - get a life! Who gives a shit about who said/ meant what. They're politicians - it's all smoke and mirrors regardless of which party you represent.
I would like to say thank for for responding to my comment, as steev11 said. However, even though that was my "inference", and not what Obama actually said, my whole point of the comment was summed up in the part you left out. "That was Obama's error, not Fox's." My question is, is why would Obama throw in the fact that Rockefeller read it, and Hillary didn't, unless it had some significance to his opinion or his speech. If he truly meant nothing by this, why did he say his name?
Obama said Rockefeller's name b/c Rockefeller had just introduced Obama. Obama ad-libbed a mention of Rockefeller into a prepared speech which also included mention of the chair of the senate intelligence committee (Graham). But, again, all Obama said about Rockefeller was that he read the report, not anything about how he voted. See, again,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkc
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
Can i ask you a somewhat unrelated question? You talk of only fox's bais when msnbc has done blatant bais things in the past. For example, they edited out a picture of a black man with a gun and said he was a racist white man.
It's 'bias', not 'bais'. I understand LiberalViewer, i mean, there's SO MUCH MORE to show when you look at Fox News' clips. Fox News is full of bullshit.
I tried to refrain myself from correcting you but you made that mistake twice... Anyway, I'll step back from this one since I am no expert and there is a really good probability that I'm wrong.
But there is one thing that might be interesting for you guys to know, I'm not American and the idea that I (and most of every other non-American I know) get is that Fox News is full of bullshit. It might not be so, I don't know, but they're not taken seriously outside the US.
I don't think that Obama meant nothing by the comment. TheKronkenstein spelled it out perfectly. In following TheKrock's logic Obama made a gaff. In fact I think it is pretty obvious. Fox did the right thing and pointed it out. I don't think there was anything sinister behind it. I think you are taking a big leap. Also remember, this is during the campaign for the Dem nomination. As far as gaff's go, everyone makes them. Look at Bush. He was a mess. Hell, look at Biden. He is a gaff machine.
steev11 wrote: "This guy LiberalViewer is a complete idiot ... Josh, just admit that you got this wrong. It is ok to admit you are wrong. I just checked 3 of LiberalViewers Posts randomly and all of his arguments were flawed just like this one."
Given that you're the one who turned out to be wrong and you failed to show any flaws in this video or any others I made, aren't you the one who needs to admit you were wrong (and, maybe, apologize for the namecalling)?
This then leads the listener to associate different outcomes with different actions. Your argument lies in the idea Obama's meaning can be divined by his followup sentence not shown on fox. However, the truth is Obama used specific language tools to influence the listener to correlate reading the report and voting against the war.
if you ask us whether fox is justified, should not also ask if Obama's truth should be questioned as well?
no no, steev lets play his game. Ok so fox put a couple words in Obama's mouth that he didn't say. However in order for them to sell this claim at all on air there has to be some justification right? That being that through basic connotations and general speech patterns it is possible to draw the conclusion Obama meant rockefeller voted against the war. He juxtaposes their two actions, having already suggested a relationship between reading the report and voting against war in himself.
You claim Fox news left out the fact that Obama mentioned the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee after his statement.. True, they did not show that, according to the clip in your video, but it doesn't matter. Obama is the one who mentioned that Jay Rockefeller read the national intelligence estimates, right after he said that Hillary Clinton did not. To me, that implies that he was saying Jay Rockefeller didn't support the decision and Clinton did. That was Obama's error, not Fox's.
@GoldenAxeArcade, You are correct. Now Fox would be wrong if Rockafeller voted against the war. But the the reporter did his research and knew that Rockafeller voted for the war like Clinton. This LiberalViewer idiot tries Jedi Mind Tricks in everyone of his posts. I just picked 3 random posts and they are all flawed to the core. If you are a casual reader with a low IQ they may make sense. But his logic is easily dismantled. "These are not the droids you seek."
GoldenAxeArcade wrote: "Obama is the one who mentioned that Jay Rockefeller read the national intelligence estimates, right after he said that Hillary Clinton did not. To me, that implies that he was saying Jay Rockefeller didn't support the decision and Clinton did"
No, that's your inference not what Obama actually said. All Obama said was that Rockefeller read the report. See, eg,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkc
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
Nevertheless, I don't think the reporter is committing some evil atrocity. I just think he just misunderstands why Obama mentions Rockafeller in the first place.
To Liberal Viewer, I don't understand what your beef is with the reporter. His statement doesn't seem biased but a logical conclusion that could be drawn from Obama's comments. Even with the Obama comments that were left out it still is a logical conclusion. Please explain how it is biased.
@steev11 Clearly, Fox accuses Obama to be referring to someone that voted the opposite that he claims they did (Rockafeller) and thus made a mistake. But he explicitly says the chairman of the senate intelligence committee which is not Rockafeller but Graham. Thus Fox doesn't make a logical assumption because Obama clarifies who he is referring to and Fox just ignores this.
Josh, I watched this clip a few times thinking I missed something. What I take from Obama's comment is that he is suggesting that Rockafeller read the report while Clinton did not and was able to make a better decision. What the reporter pointed out was that Rockafeller and Clinton's votes were the same. They both voted for the war. The comment that was left out further points out that Obama didn't know that Rockafeller voted for the war. Am I still missing something?
@steev11 What happened was Obama was criticizing Clinton for not reading the intelligence. His comment about Rockafeller is implying at least others who voted against the war read the intelligence first. Then Obama refers to someone who votes against the war without name as the chairmen of the senate intelligence committee. Fox says this is a mistake because Rockafeller voted for the war, but Fox really was the one to make a mistake since SIC chairman is Graham and is who he was referring to.
@joshtheguitarfreak , I must be missing it. Help me out. Follow my logic step by step and point out the error for me. Let's just take the Fox Clip first. Obama clearly says that Clinton did not read the report and Rockafeller did. Correct? What I take from it is that Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war because he actually read the report. Correct? And Clinton voted for the war, and that she could possibly have read the report because if she did she would have voted no.
@joshtheguitarfreak, Now stay with me. I don't think the statement that was left out has anything to do with the statement they had shown. The fact that Obama wasn't referring to Rockafeller in that statement but was referring to Bob Graham actually supports that Obama had his information wrong. Obama was trying to say that Rockafeller had great judgement for voting against the war because he read Graham's report. Correct? But where Obama is wrong is that Rockafeller voted for the war. Correct?
@steev11 Obama's reference to Rockafeller was just a side comment to stress that at least he read the intelligence while Clinton didn't, despite the fact that he still voted against the war. This clip makes it confusing. Watching the whole segment makes it much more clear Obama is indicating Clinton was wrong for going against the intelligence of Graham by refusing to read it. Saying "..Rockafeller read it" doesn't imply how he voted. He's just tearing down clinton for not looking at the report.
Josh you seem like a good guy because you like guitars. This guy LiberalViewer is a complete idiot. But take this last step with me. ROCKAFELLER VOTED FOR THE WAR. I REPEAT, ROCAFELLER VOTED FOR THE WAR. What you just said was wrong. That negates the entire argument this LiberalViewer idiot is making and supports the Fox Reporter. I repeat. ROCKAFELLER VOTED FOR THE WAR JUST LIKE CLINTON DID. How is my logic flawed?
@steev11 I agree Rockafeller voted for the war. But what Obama is saying is Clinton's judgment is flawed since she didn't read the report. In context Obama is pointing out that even those that voted for the war read the report (Though he is unclear here). Fox misinterprets Obama's implication to mean that Rockafeller was an example to foil Clinton's decision on Iraq when it was really just a casual insult to Clinton. Fox misses it because Obama is unclear why he names Rockafeller as an example.
Josh, no offense, but you just changed your tune. In one breath you are saying that Rockafeller voted against the war, which he didn't, and now you are acknowledging that he did vote for the war and that Fox was trying to make Clinton look bad. Really? This was during the campaign for the democratic nomination. So what you are saying is that Fox was really supporting Obama while trying to bash Clinton? Come on. It is a clear as day that the Fox reporter was drawing a logical conclusion.
@steev11 You are absolutely right. I definitely said that wrong. Both voted for the war. I think we agree. In essence, Obama made no mistake, but was terribly unclear. Fox did no evil by pointing out that Obama seemed to imply that Rockafeller voted differently than he did. I think now that that's cleared up we agree.
@joshtheguitarfreak, Yes, we now agree except that Obama did make a mistake. It is pretty safe to say that Obama was trying to say, as fox said, that "look at how bad Clinton's jugdemet is compared to Rockafeller's judgement is who is hosting this event for me". Any reasonable person could see that Obama was taking a jab at Clinton's judgement. It had nothing to do with Obama being unclear. It was implied. It had nothing to do with Graham. Graham's reference is 120% irrelevant.
@joshtheguitarfreak, Josh, no offense against you. But this jackass LiberalViewer's argument is so flawed that he should be embarrassed and pull it down or issue a retraction. The fact that so many people miss the obvious flaw in his argument speaks to how stupid people are.
Josh, just admit that you got this wrong. It is ok to admit you are wrong. I just checked 3 of LiberalViewers Posts randomly and all of his arguments were flawed just like this one. This guy is a liberal shill. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is on someones payroll. The arguments are so flawed but meticulously argued that it seems fishy. Admit it. But partisanship aside. This argument is 100% flawed.
steev11 wrote: "Obama clearly says that Clinton did not read the report and Rockafeller did. Correct? What I take from it is that Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war because he actually read the report. Correct?"
No, because you do not support your jump to "Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war." All he said was that Rockefeller read the report. See, eg,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkc
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
@LiberalViewer: Thank you for responding to my comments. It is nice to see the original poster engage in discussion. I have to completely disagree with you. Here is the flaw in your logic. It is actually painfully simple. I agree that all Obama said was that "Rockefeller read the report" He immediately followed it by saying "Clinton got it wrong, she did not read the report". The comment that Fox left out has no bearing on this first comment. If anything it supports my argument.....
@LiberalViewer ... In Obama's first comment he is clearly inferring that Clinton and Rockefeller came to different conclusions and the reason is because Rockefeller actually read the report while Clinton did not. When actually they had the same vote. The Fox reporter did not make some crazy leap in to draw a conclusion about what Obama meant. It is actually a very logical conclusion to draw. How is it not? The comment left out has no relation to the one shown. This is so painfully simple.
You logic is flawed because it is valid but not sound. One must consider the whole piece with out both the biases of LiberalViewer and Fox News, and then with the biases. But since you have already seen it (as I myself have), then good luck trying to watch it without drawing the conclusions already planted in your mind.
steev11 wrote: "In Obama's first comment he is clearly inferring that Clinton and Rockefeller came to different conclusions"
You already made this argument and adding the word "clearly" still doesn't support your jump to "Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war." Obama said Rockefeller read the report and Clinton didn't but said nothing about how Rockefeller voted. See, again,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkcac
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
this is why i don't like politics because people get just down right rude. seriously if you have nothin nice to say DON'T FUCKING SAY ANYTHING!!! grow up all of you!!!!
Hahaha, do why not use some misquoting, taking out of context, and plain ol bashing with no fact that MSNBC does. It is not differnet than fox. You liberals kill me. You against the death penalty, but pro abortion, you think all the lazy no good bastards sitting on their asses deserve free money, free healthcare, and free food while the working man can;t afford his own. Idiots
Fox news is just telling these fools what they really want to here and they don't care because their sheep.They think hes a socialist and are to stupid realize that every public resource such as police and firefighters is also socialist .Its already everywhere get a brain.
Socialism is a belief that the means of producing and distributing goods be owned by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Obama has shown tendencies to this through wanting Universal Health Care, taking over car companies, and Cap & Trade.
The role of the federal government differs from state and local government roles. The role of the central government has been expanding, but there is much precedent that the more centralized the power, the poorer the country.
Fox Newsless watchers know only what Murdoch wants them to know. Thats why they are so FKing stupid. If you have ever talked to Murdoch droid you know what I mean.
I love his gaffe of him saying " UPS and FED EX are working just fine.....It's the post office that is all messed up." This during a rally for government run health care. That was perfect.
do you think its fai... that's a rhetorical question. of course it isnt fair. why even ask the question if you word it in a way so that there is only one answer, with no possible way for discussion whether it is fair or not.
Now i know that no amount of wording can change the answer in that what fox news did to Obama's debate was wrong, but better questions that truly invoke thought and pulling personal opinions in. isn't that the point of the slogan "i you tube, you decide?" just a thought.
My favorite one is where Obama talks about visiting all 57 states. Have a republican say someting that ignorant and it would still be on the news today.
@usaleftistsareidiots That's very true, and she should know, since she can see Russia from her backyard! LOL, no hard feelings, okay? Everyone has something of value to offer. Left wing, right wing, doesn't matter.
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Then why was Obama bragging that Rockerfeller read the report? The liberal liar tried to spin this gaffe but it didn't work. The liberal liar is a sad pathetic propagandist grasping at straws and always coming up empty. what a joke!
Here's the thing dude, Imagine that I have the biggest and best car on a track and I've won every race since 98. Now, imagine me complaining that there's too many smaller, weaker and less known cars on the track that I'll beat no problem... Then, just to make matters worse, I cheat by sabotaging other racer's cars.
Fox News is one of the biggest most watched news channel in the world to complain that the 4 people watching CNN and MSNBC is ridiculous. The thing is that all "ALL" -
FNC host and 90% of their guest are far right wing. From Sester to Smith, all the host are opinionated and flat out overbearing. Either way, They shouldn't go around saying "Fair and Balanced" and "We report you decide". It's like a big joke. Not even Anti-Fox (AKA, MSMBC) does that. The thing that's sad is that many believe them. There are still older citizens (and Palin) that think there are Death Panels in the health car bill. I think that hurts a lot more then deplmoicy. It hurts the USA
Trust me, you show your age in your posting. I'm sure you'll be very entertained by Palin as a contributor on Fox Comedy News Network. I mean, she said "Fair and Balanced" on O'reilly, no? But I'm sure when you are actually able to think for yourself and your dad stops telling you how right Hannity is and you have to pay for college, you'll grow up to the fact that all political parties are just trying to find the best way to screw you out of your money without you realzing it.
@awesomest100 So, reporting wrong and misleading information is okay because there are more liberal news sorces then conservaritive? But lets say Fox News was ok...why is it now okay for 2 wrongs to make a right? BTW I watch Fox, CNN and MSNBC and CNN is the most balanced between them. ABC and CBS arn't even on the same field and don't forget all (and I do mean all) the News Radio far right garbage that you hear every time you want a traffic update.
Bob Graham would have been a better running mate than Joe Biden. As far as Fox News is concerned, they know that even if they tell a lie, it will be remembered once it's heard no matter what is said later.
Thank you for making all those appearances on talk shows when you could have been presiding over the federal government. Thank god we have someone who bows to saudi princes ans apologizes for being American in addition to stating his disdain for the private sector. Oh, and thanks for trying to force us all to have health insurance whether we want it or not. Don't let a little thing like the US Constitution get in the way of your socialist agenda, Comrade.
r u serious forced Health Care so like me who has a job but can't afford health care like Millions of other Americans who die because they can't buy a pill your life should not cost money your pig i hope u feel better knowing some 1 died today
um......YES. what he didnt say had nothing to do with what he did say. he was comparing two people. clinton and Rockefeller. not grahm. your kinda dumb there liberal vuewer.....i did say kinda.
God loves you so much that he sent his son Jesus Christ to die for your sins, he was buried, and he was raised from the dead! Please trust him and be saved from judgment. Its totally free, just put your faith(trust) in that good news and God WILL change your life! Its great to be saved, please think about it. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3 :16
Can someone post a link to the full interview. I noticed that his excerpt of the fox news clip was incredibly short, and it only showed what one person said and not both people. I'm beginning to suspect that this guy is doing what he claims Fox does.
This is pathetic. There isn't much to what the Fox Reporter says, but he does have a point. This isn't anything compared to the blatant misrepresentations from the liberal media, such as ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc.
I see the right wing is still in a frenzy over having a black President! LOL. Your tactics grow old. You're jealous there is a charismatic black leader; not a bumbling idiot like George Bush. George Bush has nearly destroyed this country. It's taking OBAMA to turn it around. And you guys HATE that. I bet that burns you hillbilly racists.
Check the news. Unemployment is turning around, and the recession is nearly over!
YOU IDIOTS STILL SUPPORT LYING ASS BERRY SOETORO aka BARACK OBAMA?
"OBAMA" IS A WORTHLESS CLOWN ~
mrtundra45 6 months ago
why would anyuone need to fabricate gaffes by this imbecille, he screwed up the swearing in process, it was supposed to be such a proud day for niggers but it was for ever sullied by his retarded inability to speak properly,
when he came to britain he spoke some dumb speach through the national anthem while standing next to the queen, then he thougtht it was 2008 not 2011.
this man is living proof that even half niggers are beyond salvation, slavery was too good for them.
TrolinTrolinTrolin3 6 months ago
@TrolinTrolinTrolin3 Fuck you
kevinpater 6 months ago
TROLINS IS A BITCH, I BET YOU WONT SHOW YOUR NAME OR FACE, IM NOT A COWARD ILL SHOW MY REAL NAME. I BET THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN SAY NIGGER OTHER THAN WITH YOUR BUDDIES, 500 BUCKS SAYS YOULL NEVER HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT FACE TO FACE
richardkennard 6 months ago
I will give you 20 dollars to say the word nigger right to the face of a black man and say slavery was too good for you. As a-=
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Slowly, people ARE starting to realize what Fox and other media outlets are all about... It's time for the News to be News again. 3 part solution: 1. Every channel must provide a 1 hour News program WITHOUT COMMERCIALS. 2. News programs should not be rated by any Ratings system. 3. All News Channels live by the same rules, but are "Pay TV" for revenues as opposed to advertising.
Bawbster1 7 months ago in playlist Fox News Bias
Can't rely on Fox News for the truth. Many of Fox news followers still believe Obama was not born in America. Good Grief!
thebigcougar 7 months ago 2
No offence to my country, I watch the BBC. No partisan at all.
Lazurline 7 months ago
@Lazurline Fail!!!
sexyjapgirl2010 6 months ago
Fox news is 100% truth! CAUTION QUOTE MINING AT WORK!
FULL COMMENT:
Fox news is 100% truth run through the right wing propaganda machine and then deluded with false information.
peoplearemessedup 7 months ago 11
@peoplearemessedup diluted
TheBestCommenterEVER 4 months ago
Fair and Balanced????? I think they are fair and balanced among Republican Party differences and otherwise unfair and unbalanced. Then again CNN and MSNBC are just as partisian, MSNBC even more so.
Gowalum 8 months ago
@Gowalum you drank that Nigg Koolaid didn't you BOY......LMFAO
420alf 8 months ago
Thanks man. I appreciate these catches of yours.
Wanderlustus 11 months ago
Fox New is dumb and they are liars!
Vote Up if you agree.
liamsmith100 1 year ago
OMG WHO CARES?? get a life go help clean up the oil spill that obama wont bother with! they are all working together at the end of the day.
chilltree 1 year ago
@chilltree true ignorence, you really think that working together make you the richest ass on the mountian, then you dont know how to hussle for shit. they arnt working together, acctually this is the time in recent history that we are so apparently seperated, not us but the world. i suggest you find something worth a damn and cherish it. things on the inside wont change, the world needs to stop holding its lungs and just let in that totally toxic air, and rot off like science intended
cobhcmofo313 10 months ago
@cobhcmofo313 "and just let in that totally toxic air, and rot off like science intended" What? I don't know the context of this statement, but "science" itself doesn't have "intention" and if it did, "rotting off" would be a lot more peaceful (as it is when people are not stricken with some horrible disease generally caused by humans) than it is. Again though, we're not "intended" to "breathe in toxins"
....though I agree about just finding what matters to you and saying fuck it after that
TheEnlightenedTruth 10 months ago
@cobhcmofo313 haha too funny you spelled ignorance wrong. That is not a word you want to fuck up.
jesse7037 9 months ago
@jesse7037 yes because my mind at 4am forgeting how to spell is a way to define my ability to think, i figured by the words i used you would guess that giving a shit isnt my forte, but whatever i guess you win on the smallest scale. good for you get a cookie for yourself
cobhcmofo313 9 months ago
@tube2a Rupert Murdoch is and ever has been a staunch conservative and never "supported" Hillary Clinton or any other Democratic candidate. Where do you get these "facts?" What is your source?
xJoeEDangerouslyx 1 year ago
@xJoeEDangerouslyx erm, since i cant give you a link on youtube try googling "rupert murdoch hillary clinton" and theres plenty of sources...
tube2a 1 year ago
The point is that Fox News is dishonest.
TaterGumfries 1 year ago
@TaterGumfries and obama is honest ?? find me one honest politition and i will find u an honest journo from fox news. honestly and politics dnt go together. no offence.
chilltree 1 year ago
@chilltree Who claimed Obama was honest? What does Fox's dishonesty have to do wu\ith Obama's dishonesty?
TaterGumfries 1 year ago
Liberals are not the only victims of fox news biased : see Ron Paul
Also... fox news' owner was actually a supporter of hillary clinton, thats why they were giving her such good coverage and was likely a reason why they jumped on this "gaffe".
tube2a 1 year ago
But lets be honest here... what channel besides fox news reported on obama's mishap when he stated that there was 54 or whatever states? Im not justifying fox new's bias but picking on their bias is a bit dishonest in that every other news station is liberally biased.
tube2a 1 year ago
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liberals = victimhood mentality 24 / 7
macarion 1 year ago
Fuck Barry.
MaulawiUdo 1 year ago
@MaulawiUdo fuck you
LordKaisen 1 year ago
Obama is black nasty
Hhahahaha
ISRAEL10F 1 year ago
@ISRAEL10F Israel is oppressive and bloodthirsty. No ones laughing.
tube2a 1 year ago
@tube2a Don't be ignorant
Kiandatop 1 year ago
@Kiandatop Quite a simple comment, care to state anything else? Or are you just worth a few ad hominems.
tube2a 1 year ago
@LiberalViewer Most of the people here do not seem to understand your logic... but I came here to say that it's on point, and good work! From the small clip that Fox News shows, their logic was correct also.It appeared that Obama was implying that Rockefeller and Clinton had opposing votes. BUT, in context of the whole speech Oabama including Rockefeller's name was impromptuwith no real significance, except to acknowledge him. Fox news should not have left out the second part of the statement.
magusunltd 1 year ago
first of all why dont you talk about EVERY STORY that msnbc and cnn either spins or DONT EVEN COVER to try to manipulate the american people to supporting all the horrible and failed policies put into place today. Ide beleive the fox news reporter over obama and you any day of the year because they actually do real unbiased reporting unlike you LIBERAL IDIOTS THAT ARE CHANGING OUR COUNTRY FOR THE WORSE WITH EVERY BILL AND EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND THAT WE DONT HAVE.
chillbro518 1 year ago
lol i love fox "news"
zabbok 1 year ago
NO IT IS NOT FAIR IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA OR ANYONE YOU SAY THE WHOLE STORY
TheJujubean96 1 year ago
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Alien5p 1 year ago
He should pick Joe Biden
DigitalDel1 1 year ago
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anyone that supports a republican or a democrat is extremly gullable. they all have the same agenda and that is to get more and more power and take away your freedom. both parties are controlled by the same mastermind and they are simply playing the american people. Anyone that thought obama was going to make a change iare the most unintelligent people alive. He's doing the same stuff that bush did. Why? because they both get their orders from higher up.
guidav123 1 year ago
Leader of the liars. Liberals and MSNBC, CNN, the propaganda left machine that destroys family's across America or should I say Little Africa.
graydog36 1 year ago
libralism is a disease. Common sence is the cure! Ronald Reagan.
Carldane1 1 year ago
LiberalViewer FAIL!
UtesFiesta09 1 year ago
wats a gaffe
igg73 1 year ago
wats a gaffe?
igg73 1 year ago
Fox News owner is Ausie born & feels that he is not recognized by the American elite, so uses his media to weaken American unity: Conservatives versus Liberals.
Is it coincidence that he has put his weight behind the less intellectual part of America, the conservatives and creating education/elite hating population that saw to it the election of G.W Bush, who as predicted took America's economy from surplus to burn down the house/two wars etc etc...
casan20007 1 year ago
Do you ever have anyaid points. v
bnjones28 1 year ago
so what this man CANNOT pronounce CORPS man!!! go google his speech be butchers it!
republicansrule 1 year ago
Obama's point was clear. Anyone who read it would have voted against it. Well...that was incorrect. Thus, a gaffe. Sorry folks. Maybe some faked documents saying he didn't show up for his National Guard duty?!
candyohara 1 year ago
Obama's point was clear. Anyone who read it would have voted against it. Well...that was incorrect. Thus, a gaffe. Sorry folks. Maybe some faked documents saying he didn't show up for his National Guard duty?!
candyohara 1 year ago
Fuck both right and left wings, you are all enemies of the people.
AVIATIO 1 year ago
is the mother fucker on ludes narrating this!! Liberal socialist view!!
irishsean2 1 year ago
fucking libs1
izzy414able 1 year ago
And, of course, left-wing groups aren't notorious for stealing right-wing newspapers on college campuses and burning them, or shouting down conservative speakers. This is all just part of the vast right-wing Republican media machine, spewing lies and tainting godly and principled progressives.
Gerkinstock 1 year ago
And Bill Moyers would never stack his taxpayer-funded show with leftwing pundits then claim he's fair and balanced, or denounce right-wing yahoos like Bill O'Reilly, Jerry Falwell and Rush Limbaugh while embracing left-wing yahoos like Keith Olbermann, Jeremiah Wright, Al Franken and Michael Moore.
Gerkinstock 1 year ago
And liberals like Naomi Wolf and Gore Vidal would never falsely claim that GW Bush was going to steal the 2008 election, and the L.A. Times would never print false innuendo and rumors about a Republican gubernatorial candidate days before an election.
Gerkinstock 1 year ago
Yeah, someone like Paul Krugman would never falsely claim that Newt Gingrich spoke out against the Civil Rights Act in his column. Having the conscience of a liberal, he has too much integrity to smear people (much like Ted Kennedy would never smear a Supreme Court nominee on the Senate floor).
Gerkinstock 1 year ago
what do you expect from racists when they get access to the media?
creapah 1 year ago
This video is more guilty than Fox News was at the segment in question. First, it is self evident that the person was providing an analysis of Barack's chosen words. The analyst says and that there were intentional suggestive overtones in Barack's language, which was very likely given the high level politics at play. Furher, the creator of this video seems to think that viewers don't know the difference. Secondly, this was not "Fox News Reporting" that Barack made a gaffe, it was an analyst.
johnsreport 1 year ago
By making this video, about this highly insignificant event, you are playing the same game as Fox news.
Take the high road, people know that Fox news is biased, but let them embarrass themselves, all you need to do is sitback and watch.
And liberal media isn't innocent either, its just how it goes.
RadiatorBoy 1 year ago
lol what? thats a pretty big stretch you claim, liberalviewer. come on now
titans797979 1 year ago
What were you expecting from Rupert Murdoch? The truth? Facts? Never going to happen. They are a TABLOID NEWS (like the enquirer) STATION by their own admission. That is the business Murdoch's father was in when he died and Murdoch took over at 22 years of age.
azmildman 1 year ago
zzzzzzzz.... msnbc is far worse
modcit 1 year ago
MSNBC gives facts.
Fox Snooze is all emotional slight of hand.
Republicans lie regularly.
Democrats tell the truth regularly.
taoofmichael 1 year ago
haha...good one.
modcit 1 year ago
Truth. And you know it.
taoofmichael 1 year ago
Yeah sure -- Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, among others, have no agenda at all!! I hope you are trying to be funny.....
modcit 1 year ago
Please cite one lie, or misrepresentation of fact, from Rachel Maddow. Her "agenda" is educating the public on the FACTS. And she is very open about her political leanings -- unlike Fox Snooze liars.
The list of lies from Fox Snooze is far too long to enumerate. They literally CAMPAIGN SHAMELESSLY FOR REPUBLICANS, AND SPEW REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS CONSTANTLY. They have no time left to report the news. Shep Smith is the ONLY exception. Although OReilly has, of late, grown a conscience.
taoofmichael 1 year ago
Yeah, they do have an agenda.....Getting the TRUTH out to the people
lendada13 1 year ago
I wouldn't say any politician of any party tells the truth, especially not regularly. They all take money in special interests.
The GOP lies a little more and on grander scales. But worse they're hypocritical. They are the "Values" party, but yet they still always get caught catching a BJ from some dude? While male Demos get hot ass (and quite smart) female hookers.
Don't look at it as Demo or GOP, that's just more partisan BS we don't need. Just acknowledge the rights & wrongs being done.
tftmc 1 year ago
@taoofmichael MSNBC gives facts.
Fox Snooze is all emotional slight of hand.
Republicans lie regularly.
Democrats tell the truth regularly.
That is the funniest statement I have ever seen. MSNBC gives facts. Yeh, OK.
SilverFox466 1 year ago
@taoofmichael Bullshit. Both tell lies equally.
thespandexman 1 year ago
you sir are the reason that the US will no longer be a leader in the world in 5 years and... you know what FUCK YOU !!
chillbro518 1 year ago
You drank the kool aid, didn't you
lendada13 1 year ago
difference is
msnbc's ratings are far worse than fox.
it is easy to trick the millions watching who do not know what is happening to believe whatever you say.
your a news station.
if people aren't paying attention...
why not slip in a little something to sway their opinions.
Maziyar 1 year ago
@Maziyar I agree. If the federal communications commission was charged with enforcing truth, then Jerry Springer, The Enquirer, Weekly World News, Professional Wrestling and Fox News would all have to admit they are complete Bullshit.
azmildman 1 year ago
"Fix" is a joke among real journalists. I watch it as a comedy channel.
jkfromcincty 1 year ago
you must have a lot of free time my friend...
maritowalter 1 year ago
You caught them! They have been maintaining for the last two months or so that their hard-news isn't conservative commentary. That's Shepard Smith talking to someone covering the campaign. For those who don't remember, they used to do reports "just the facts" and have the type of comment for their "in-depth" analysis. Of course, that was the good ol' days of cable news.
dJames2002 1 year ago
Ok, so we all know that FNC leans to the right. I really don't think Liberal Viewer is swaying any opinions here. The purpose of all these videos is to allow liberals to say "yeah fox news sucks maaan!" I think liberals are just mad because they don't control the media like they used to and the ratings fox news gets are through the roof. Libs are pretty funny creatures. They're fun to laugh at, and its fun to watch them go crazy over fox news.
kerbio25 1 year ago
See, you're treating liberals as if they were rabid animals that are fun to watch in a zoo where they are safely locked away. You get the idea that your side is perfect. I'm not saying that liberals haven't had their fair share of gaffes but Fox News sure as hell made quite a few on its own.
Velrogh 1 year ago
@kerbio25
what this video shows isn't that Fox News "leans right" which isn't a problem. It's that they make things up and call them "news," that is a problem.
I agree with you that anyone that refers to themselves as "liberals" are generally people I disagree with, but Fox News is a joke.
tglass55 1 year ago
@tglass55 I agree that if they are a station of right leaning editorialits and commentators, that's ok. The problem I have is with their claim to be a news organization. "Fair and balanced"? "We report, you decide"?
Pinckney12 1 year ago
The problem with a lot of the left is that they do not seem to admit to being biased. The leftist media claims to be fair and balanced when it comes to I am a libertarian right winger and most intelligent conservatives have no problem admitting we are biased. I think everyone needs to be honest and admit we all have biases and there is no clearly fair and balanced reporting.
janiga2001 1 year ago
That's absolutely true, every news channel is biased, and they sometimes have full raging flame-wars to deny it. But we also have to take into consideration that some take it a bit too far.
I saw an article somewhere that stated that, while other news stations carried on their daily programme after Scott Brown's victory speach, Fox News broadcasted it, and other Brown-related clips, all day long; much more time than when Obama was elected. That's kinda flagrant.
Velrogh 1 year ago
To Grant that claim is to say we shouldn't try for unbiased reporting. The purpose of news is to inform the viewer. Fox has it in their advertisting--"Fair and Balanced. You Decide." People don't like watching that type of reporting. Let's not assume that because it doesn't exist, we shouldn't try. We stopped eating our vegtables and they gave us all sweets to live on. Acceptance of the fact and allowing it to continue are two seperate matters entirely.
dJames2002 1 year ago
any1 know how i can get in on the fox news conspiracy? i have been trying to join the vast right-wing for some time now and am havining no luck finding a charter member for my dues, card etc.......
inkfreak79 1 year ago
Everyone - get a life! Who gives a shit about who said/ meant what. They're politicians - it's all smoke and mirrors regardless of which party you represent.
jangawanga 1 year ago
@jangawanga not caring justs makes the smoke and mirrors more smokey and mirror like
TheIronFocus 1 year ago
@LiberalViewer
I would like to say thank for for responding to my comment, as steev11 said. However, even though that was my "inference", and not what Obama actually said, my whole point of the comment was summed up in the part you left out. "That was Obama's error, not Fox's." My question is, is why would Obama throw in the fact that Rockefeller read it, and Hillary didn't, unless it had some significance to his opinion or his speech. If he truly meant nothing by this, why did he say his name?
GoldenAxeArcade 1 year ago
I also meant to say thank you for responding to my comment, instead of saying thank for for responding to my comment.
GoldenAxeArcade 1 year ago
GoldenAxeArcade wrote: "why did he say his name?"
Obama said Rockefeller's name b/c Rockefeller had just introduced Obama. Obama ad-libbed a mention of Rockefeller into a prepared speech which also included mention of the chair of the senate intelligence committee (Graham). But, again, all Obama said about Rockefeller was that he read the report, not anything about how he voted. See, again,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkc
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 1 year ago
Can i ask you a somewhat unrelated question? You talk of only fox's bais when msnbc has done blatant bais things in the past. For example, they edited out a picture of a black man with a gun and said he was a racist white man.
TheCommentifyer 1 year ago
@TheCommentifyer yeah, not to mention hillary is now the SECRETARY OF STATE! Obama is such a bullshit artist.
disbsam333 1 year ago
Yeah, but Republicans wanted to put Sarah Palin in the VP seat, so who's more full of bullshit?
Velrogh 1 year ago
It's 'bias', not 'bais'. I understand LiberalViewer, i mean, there's SO MUCH MORE to show when you look at Fox News' clips. Fox News is full of bullshit.
Velrogh 1 year ago
Ugg we have a grammer nazi in here, well its I not "i".
anyway no thats not true msnbc has just as many if not more than fox
TheCommentifyer 1 year ago
I tried to refrain myself from correcting you but you made that mistake twice... Anyway, I'll step back from this one since I am no expert and there is a really good probability that I'm wrong.
But there is one thing that might be interesting for you guys to know, I'm not American and the idea that I (and most of every other non-American I know) get is that Fox News is full of bullshit. It might not be so, I don't know, but they're not taken seriously outside the US.
Velrogh 1 year ago
I don't think that Obama meant nothing by the comment. TheKronkenstein spelled it out perfectly. In following TheKrock's logic Obama made a gaff. In fact I think it is pretty obvious. Fox did the right thing and pointed it out. I don't think there was anything sinister behind it. I think you are taking a big leap. Also remember, this is during the campaign for the Dem nomination. As far as gaff's go, everyone makes them. Look at Bush. He was a mess. Hell, look at Biden. He is a gaff machine.
steev11 1 year ago
steev11 wrote: "This guy LiberalViewer is a complete idiot ... Josh, just admit that you got this wrong. It is ok to admit you are wrong. I just checked 3 of LiberalViewers Posts randomly and all of his arguments were flawed just like this one."
Given that you're the one who turned out to be wrong and you failed to show any flaws in this video or any others I made, aren't you the one who needs to admit you were wrong (and, maybe, apologize for the namecalling)?
Thanks again 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 1 year ago 8
This then leads the listener to associate different outcomes with different actions. Your argument lies in the idea Obama's meaning can be divined by his followup sentence not shown on fox. However, the truth is Obama used specific language tools to influence the listener to correlate reading the report and voting against the war.
if you ask us whether fox is justified, should not also ask if Obama's truth should be questioned as well?
TheKronkenstein 1 year ago
Well put.
steev11 1 year ago
no no, steev lets play his game. Ok so fox put a couple words in Obama's mouth that he didn't say. However in order for them to sell this claim at all on air there has to be some justification right? That being that through basic connotations and general speech patterns it is possible to draw the conclusion Obama meant rockefeller voted against the war. He juxtaposes their two actions, having already suggested a relationship between reading the report and voting against war in himself.
TheKronkenstein 1 year ago
You claim Fox news left out the fact that Obama mentioned the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee after his statement.. True, they did not show that, according to the clip in your video, but it doesn't matter. Obama is the one who mentioned that Jay Rockefeller read the national intelligence estimates, right after he said that Hillary Clinton did not. To me, that implies that he was saying Jay Rockefeller didn't support the decision and Clinton did. That was Obama's error, not Fox's.
GoldenAxeArcade 1 year ago
@GoldenAxeArcade, You are correct. Now Fox would be wrong if Rockafeller voted against the war. But the the reporter did his research and knew that Rockafeller voted for the war like Clinton. This LiberalViewer idiot tries Jedi Mind Tricks in everyone of his posts. I just picked 3 random posts and they are all flawed to the core. If you are a casual reader with a low IQ they may make sense. But his logic is easily dismantled. "These are not the droids you seek."
steev11 1 year ago
GoldenAxeArcade wrote: "Obama is the one who mentioned that Jay Rockefeller read the national intelligence estimates, right after he said that Hillary Clinton did not. To me, that implies that he was saying Jay Rockefeller didn't support the decision and Clinton did"
No, that's your inference not what Obama actually said. All Obama said was that Rockefeller read the report. See, eg,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkc
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 1 year ago
Nevertheless, I don't think the reporter is committing some evil atrocity. I just think he just misunderstands why Obama mentions Rockafeller in the first place.
joshtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
To Liberal Viewer, I don't understand what your beef is with the reporter. His statement doesn't seem biased but a logical conclusion that could be drawn from Obama's comments. Even with the Obama comments that were left out it still is a logical conclusion. Please explain how it is biased.
steev11 1 year ago
@steev11 Clearly, Fox accuses Obama to be referring to someone that voted the opposite that he claims they did (Rockafeller) and thus made a mistake. But he explicitly says the chairman of the senate intelligence committee which is not Rockafeller but Graham. Thus Fox doesn't make a logical assumption because Obama clarifies who he is referring to and Fox just ignores this.
joshtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
Josh, I watched this clip a few times thinking I missed something. What I take from Obama's comment is that he is suggesting that Rockafeller read the report while Clinton did not and was able to make a better decision. What the reporter pointed out was that Rockafeller and Clinton's votes were the same. They both voted for the war. The comment that was left out further points out that Obama didn't know that Rockafeller voted for the war. Am I still missing something?
steev11 1 year ago
@steev11 What happened was Obama was criticizing Clinton for not reading the intelligence. His comment about Rockafeller is implying at least others who voted against the war read the intelligence first. Then Obama refers to someone who votes against the war without name as the chairmen of the senate intelligence committee. Fox says this is a mistake because Rockafeller voted for the war, but Fox really was the one to make a mistake since SIC chairman is Graham and is who he was referring to.
joshtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
@joshtheguitarfreak , I must be missing it. Help me out. Follow my logic step by step and point out the error for me. Let's just take the Fox Clip first. Obama clearly says that Clinton did not read the report and Rockafeller did. Correct? What I take from it is that Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war because he actually read the report. Correct? And Clinton voted for the war, and that she could possibly have read the report because if she did she would have voted no.
steev11 1 year ago
@joshtheguitarfreak, I meant "Clinton couldn't possibly have read the report"
steev11 1 year ago
@joshtheguitarfreak, Now stay with me. I don't think the statement that was left out has anything to do with the statement they had shown. The fact that Obama wasn't referring to Rockafeller in that statement but was referring to Bob Graham actually supports that Obama had his information wrong. Obama was trying to say that Rockafeller had great judgement for voting against the war because he read Graham's report. Correct? But where Obama is wrong is that Rockafeller voted for the war. Correct?
steev11 1 year ago
@steev11 Obama's reference to Rockafeller was just a side comment to stress that at least he read the intelligence while Clinton didn't, despite the fact that he still voted against the war. This clip makes it confusing. Watching the whole segment makes it much more clear Obama is indicating Clinton was wrong for going against the intelligence of Graham by refusing to read it. Saying "..Rockafeller read it" doesn't imply how he voted. He's just tearing down clinton for not looking at the report.
joshtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
Josh you seem like a good guy because you like guitars. This guy LiberalViewer is a complete idiot. But take this last step with me. ROCKAFELLER VOTED FOR THE WAR. I REPEAT, ROCAFELLER VOTED FOR THE WAR. What you just said was wrong. That negates the entire argument this LiberalViewer idiot is making and supports the Fox Reporter. I repeat. ROCKAFELLER VOTED FOR THE WAR JUST LIKE CLINTON DID. How is my logic flawed?
steev11 1 year ago
@steev11 I agree Rockafeller voted for the war. But what Obama is saying is Clinton's judgment is flawed since she didn't read the report. In context Obama is pointing out that even those that voted for the war read the report (Though he is unclear here). Fox misinterprets Obama's implication to mean that Rockafeller was an example to foil Clinton's decision on Iraq when it was really just a casual insult to Clinton. Fox misses it because Obama is unclear why he names Rockafeller as an example.
joshtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
Josh, no offense, but you just changed your tune. In one breath you are saying that Rockafeller voted against the war, which he didn't, and now you are acknowledging that he did vote for the war and that Fox was trying to make Clinton look bad. Really? This was during the campaign for the democratic nomination. So what you are saying is that Fox was really supporting Obama while trying to bash Clinton? Come on. It is a clear as day that the Fox reporter was drawing a logical conclusion.
steev11 1 year ago
@steev11 You are absolutely right. I definitely said that wrong. Both voted for the war. I think we agree. In essence, Obama made no mistake, but was terribly unclear. Fox did no evil by pointing out that Obama seemed to imply that Rockafeller voted differently than he did. I think now that that's cleared up we agree.
joshtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
@joshtheguitarfreak, Yes, we now agree except that Obama did make a mistake. It is pretty safe to say that Obama was trying to say, as fox said, that "look at how bad Clinton's jugdemet is compared to Rockafeller's judgement is who is hosting this event for me". Any reasonable person could see that Obama was taking a jab at Clinton's judgement. It had nothing to do with Obama being unclear. It was implied. It had nothing to do with Graham. Graham's reference is 120% irrelevant.
steev11 1 year ago
@joshtheguitarfreak, Josh, no offense against you. But this jackass LiberalViewer's argument is so flawed that he should be embarrassed and pull it down or issue a retraction. The fact that so many people miss the obvious flaw in his argument speaks to how stupid people are.
steev11 1 year ago
Josh, just admit that you got this wrong. It is ok to admit you are wrong. I just checked 3 of LiberalViewers Posts randomly and all of his arguments were flawed just like this one. This guy is a liberal shill. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is on someones payroll. The arguments are so flawed but meticulously argued that it seems fishy. Admit it. But partisanship aside. This argument is 100% flawed.
steev11 1 year ago
steev11 wrote: "Obama clearly says that Clinton did not read the report and Rockafeller did. Correct? What I take from it is that Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war because he actually read the report. Correct?"
No, because you do not support your jump to "Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war." All he said was that Rockefeller read the report. See, eg,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkc
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 1 year ago
@LiberalViewer: Thank you for responding to my comments. It is nice to see the original poster engage in discussion. I have to completely disagree with you. Here is the flaw in your logic. It is actually painfully simple. I agree that all Obama said was that "Rockefeller read the report" He immediately followed it by saying "Clinton got it wrong, she did not read the report". The comment that Fox left out has no bearing on this first comment. If anything it supports my argument.....
steev11 1 year ago
@LiberalViewer ... In Obama's first comment he is clearly inferring that Clinton and Rockefeller came to different conclusions and the reason is because Rockefeller actually read the report while Clinton did not. When actually they had the same vote. The Fox reporter did not make some crazy leap in to draw a conclusion about what Obama meant. It is actually a very logical conclusion to draw. How is it not? The comment left out has no relation to the one shown. This is so painfully simple.
steev11 1 year ago
You logic is flawed because it is valid but not sound. One must consider the whole piece with out both the biases of LiberalViewer and Fox News, and then with the biases. But since you have already seen it (as I myself have), then good luck trying to watch it without drawing the conclusions already planted in your mind.
FiveRedballoons 1 year ago
steev11 wrote: "In Obama's first comment he is clearly inferring that Clinton and Rockefeller came to different conclusions"
You already made this argument and adding the word "clearly" still doesn't support your jump to "Obama is inferring that Rockafeller voted against the war." Obama said Rockefeller read the report and Clinton didn't but said nothing about how Rockefeller voted. See, again,
tinyurl(.)com/567zkcac
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 1 year ago
this is why i don't like politics because people get just down right rude. seriously if you have nothin nice to say DON'T FUCKING SAY ANYTHING!!! grow up all of you!!!!
LalaineSapphire13 1 year ago
Hahaha, do why not use some misquoting, taking out of context, and plain ol bashing with no fact that MSNBC does. It is not differnet than fox. You liberals kill me. You against the death penalty, but pro abortion, you think all the lazy no good bastards sitting on their asses deserve free money, free healthcare, and free food while the working man can;t afford his own. Idiots
gametested1 1 year ago
Obama's a joke, one year later what has he done with a supermajority?
More Debt
Higher Unemployment
"Health Care Reform"- hows that coming?
Approval rating plummeting
I thought he was the chosen one liberals?
xfactor5492 1 year ago
Fox news is just telling these fools what they really want to here and they don't care because their sheep.They think hes a socialist and are to stupid realize that every public resource such as police and firefighters is also socialist .Its already everywhere get a brain.
Rjs3611 1 year ago
Socialism is a belief that the means of producing and distributing goods be owned by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Obama has shown tendencies to this through wanting Universal Health Care, taking over car companies, and Cap & Trade.
The role of the federal government differs from state and local government roles. The role of the central government has been expanding, but there is much precedent that the more centralized the power, the poorer the country.
boruboru27 1 year ago
Obama looks like he has Jondus.
fbell3 1 year ago
You a boring. Point out something that actually matters. Fox news is bias against Obama . He is a liar a socialist.
Where is the open meeting on Health Care. Both parties have messed this country up. It is time to clean house from top bottom.
fbell3 1 year ago
Fox Newsless watchers know only what Murdoch wants them to know. Thats why they are so FKing stupid. If you have ever talked to Murdoch droid you know what I mean.
judedelux 1 year ago
I love his gaffe of him saying " UPS and FED EX are working just fine.....It's the post office that is all messed up." This during a rally for government run health care. That was perfect.
otto5656 1 year ago 2
Geesh bud, get a life.
Do you spend all day obsessing over Fox News? Got a day job?
Do you apply the same standards to the other networks?
Doubt it.
And what do you think about Obama's judgement that he made Clinton Secretary of State?
Bias is everywhere. Take a look and get out of your parents basement.....
gdshaver 1 year ago
Wtf get out of his parents house? You are an idiot. How else would this man get his laundry done?
BMason3604 1 year ago
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HaydenT18 1 year ago
do you think its fai... that's a rhetorical question. of course it isnt fair. why even ask the question if you word it in a way so that there is only one answer, with no possible way for discussion whether it is fair or not.
Now i know that no amount of wording can change the answer in that what fox news did to Obama's debate was wrong, but better questions that truly invoke thought and pulling personal opinions in. isn't that the point of the slogan "i you tube, you decide?" just a thought.
HaydenT18 1 year ago
Fox news try to con liberals but often they make a fool of themselves. I guess conservatives are very dumb so they can't find legit things to attack.
dumplingduckling2 1 year ago
My favorite one is where Obama talks about visiting all 57 states. Have a republican say someting that ignorant and it would still be on the news today.
usaleftistsareidiots 1 year ago
Like all of that stupid shit Palin has said?
precious1933 1 year ago
Palin knows how many states are in the union and so do most Americans.
usaleftistsareidiots 1 year ago
@usaleftistsareidiots That's very true, and she should know, since she can see Russia from her backyard! LOL, no hard feelings, okay? Everyone has something of value to offer. Left wing, right wing, doesn't matter.
precious1933 1 year ago
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Fine. Obama hasn't made 1,000,000 gaffes. Thanks to this video, that brings it down to 999,999.
dogeymon83 2 years ago
So, according to you, President Obama has made almost 1 million gaffes? Can you even show an example of a fraction of those? Highly doubtful.
GstateBALLER925 1 year ago 3
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Then why was Obama bragging that Rockerfeller read the report? The liberal liar tried to spin this gaffe but it didn't work. The liberal liar is a sad pathetic propagandist grasping at straws and always coming up empty. what a joke!
bluegsp 2 years ago
These questions at the end of these segments are hella biased. Irony! Haha
TheDukeofO 2 years ago
Here's the thing dude, Imagine that I have the biggest and best car on a track and I've won every race since 98. Now, imagine me complaining that there's too many smaller, weaker and less known cars on the track that I'll beat no problem... Then, just to make matters worse, I cheat by sabotaging other racer's cars.
Fox News is one of the biggest most watched news channel in the world to complain that the 4 people watching CNN and MSNBC is ridiculous. The thing is that all "ALL" -
Shattered001 2 years ago
FNC host and 90% of their guest are far right wing. From Sester to Smith, all the host are opinionated and flat out overbearing. Either way, They shouldn't go around saying "Fair and Balanced" and "We report you decide". It's like a big joke. Not even Anti-Fox (AKA, MSMBC) does that. The thing that's sad is that many believe them. There are still older citizens (and Palin) that think there are Death Panels in the health car bill. I think that hurts a lot more then deplmoicy. It hurts the USA
Shattered001 2 years ago
Trust me, you show your age in your posting. I'm sure you'll be very entertained by Palin as a contributor on Fox Comedy News Network. I mean, she said "Fair and Balanced" on O'reilly, no? But I'm sure when you are actually able to think for yourself and your dad stops telling you how right Hannity is and you have to pay for college, you'll grow up to the fact that all political parties are just trying to find the best way to screw you out of your money without you realzing it.
Shattered001 2 years ago
@awesomest100 So, reporting wrong and misleading information is okay because there are more liberal news sorces then conservaritive? But lets say Fox News was ok...why is it now okay for 2 wrongs to make a right? BTW I watch Fox, CNN and MSNBC and CNN is the most balanced between them. ABC and CBS arn't even on the same field and don't forget all (and I do mean all) the News Radio far right garbage that you hear every time you want a traffic update.
Shattered001 2 years ago
Bob Graham would have been a better running mate than Joe Biden. As far as Fox News is concerned, they know that even if they tell a lie, it will be remembered once it's heard no matter what is said later.
dhinge 2 years ago
Dear President Teleprompter,
Thank you for making all those appearances on talk shows when you could have been presiding over the federal government. Thank god we have someone who bows to saudi princes ans apologizes for being American in addition to stating his disdain for the private sector. Oh, and thanks for trying to force us all to have health insurance whether we want it or not. Don't let a little thing like the US Constitution get in the way of your socialist agenda, Comrade.
MrExnihilo 2 years ago
r u serious forced Health Care so like me who has a job but can't afford health care like Millions of other Americans who die because they can't buy a pill your life should not cost money your pig i hope u feel better knowing some 1 died today
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KristinaBrooker 2 years ago
Of course he is going to kiss rockefeller's ass, who do you think funded his campaign, donald duck?
NurvTronics 2 years ago
lets keep in mind kids, that this is still America, and we do have the freedoms of speech. And are guarded under them. With that, who wants a beer?!
TimotheCavenaugh 2 years ago
I don't like your voice. It's annoying.
rufus888 2 years ago
I agree, the voice of this guy is pretty annoying.
Cj5316 2 years ago
do us all a favor stay home on election day instead of voting for these assholes
druchane 2 years ago
um......YES. what he didnt say had nothing to do with what he did say. he was comparing two people. clinton and Rockefeller. not grahm. your kinda dumb there liberal vuewer.....i did say kinda.
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armrpeercing 2 years ago
What i heard Obama say in the short statement
1- rockefeller read the estimate and voted differently than hillary who didn't read the estimate.
2-hillary got it wrong; rockefeller got it right
3- hillary voted yes; therefore, rockefeller voted no [assumption]
Fox commentator points out that both voted yes.
that is the gaffe; where did bob graham figure in all this?
jimenj 2 years ago
Can someone post a link to the full interview. I noticed that his excerpt of the fox news clip was incredibly short, and it only showed what one person said and not both people. I'm beginning to suspect that this guy is doing what he claims Fox does.
jacobryanball10 2 years ago
This is pathetic. There isn't much to what the Fox Reporter says, but he does have a point. This isn't anything compared to the blatant misrepresentations from the liberal media, such as ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc.
jlaynetn 2 years ago
i hate obama so i dont care
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I see the right wing is still in a frenzy over having a black President! LOL. Your tactics grow old. You're jealous there is a charismatic black leader; not a bumbling idiot like George Bush. George Bush has nearly destroyed this country. It's taking OBAMA to turn it around. And you guys HATE that. I bet that burns you hillbilly racists.
Check the news. Unemployment is turning around, and the recession is nearly over!
barackobamaexpress 2 years ago