Bleed is such an incredible song, but has such a HORRIBLE videoclip. I guess it's Nuclear Blast's commercial policy that caused it. At least I hope it is.
@DaftCarrot95 Then I guess you're into gothic styles and sadomasochism? I find the video unworthy of Meshuggah's music and profound lyrics, it makes them look like the next nu-metal band trying to be angry or 'evil' with some disturbing images.
The main thing I was surprised about, as lame as this sounds, is how clear his english in. For some reason I expected them all to be very heavily accented. I can't even be surprised about how fucking skilled he is because, come on, it's fucking Tomas Haake. Obviously the dude is easily one of the greatest drummers of all time, in metal at least.
no he's not!!! yes he's a quality drummer!! maybe he practiced for hours on end instead of sitting with his thumb up his arse and whining saying "ill never be that good"!! guess what? all that practice has clearly fucking paid off so maybe if you do the same you may be just maybe be as good as or even better than haake!!!
@cougarcartel it's not mathcore... converge and botch are mathcore... the only thing you could call this other than djent is tech death, and meshuggah sounds next to nothing like other tech death bands.... they truly did create their own sound...
@punkrockdrummer I'm so sick of listening to people placing them in this or that genre. Find any band that sounds like Meshuggah and you have a genre but you won't. Math metal? lol most beats go in 4/4 core. Its all the other shit like jazz elements and Haakes independence that makes people confused.
Yea, makes u feel better to know that even the best drummers and percussionists have to practice at it just like the rest of us. I must say though, I like how Haake explains his practicing techniques in this interview, because that is EXACTLY how I had to change my bass drum technique when first learning advanced double bass patterns, I struggled getting it down for a while because it would always seem like my left foot couldn't keep up with my right since it had more experienc
LMAO : 3:23 - BASIC PATTERN? :L Is he high? :L If that's a basic pattern, then Hitler basically killed five people. Space is basically 2 feet wide. The speed of light is basically slow. George Bush is basically a smart character.
@MJJAexperiance LOL he meant basic as in the base pattern of the song lol, it would be kind of contradictory to call the pattern simple and then proclaim how difficult it was for him to master playing it.
@MrSwac31 "I’ve also learned a lot from Meshuggah. They’re not so much about polyrhythms as they are about trying different things together and seeing where they meet. They may play in three, then in five, then in four in one progression of riffs; if the drummer is playing over that in four, they’ll see where the rhythms meet up. It’s so exciting. Meshuggah are modern prog-rock as far as I’m concerned." excerpt from an Adam Jones interview.
@Jimihendrix6699 what you're describing is experimental metal not progressive metal, progressive metal is a sub genre of HEAVY METAL inspire by heavy metal, jazz fusion, and classical music it's a really, really melodic kind of music and not agressive at all. The progressive metal isn't links with any kind of extreme metal like is Meshuggah, in progressive metal u'll never gona ear a Chords the all song is a shred! the only comon point with the experimental is the use of odd time signatures,...
@Jimihendrix6699 Meshuggah is a really extreme metal band they praticly never use shred they use death glows for the singer, really big 8 strings guitars, double pedal (extreme metal only) and the big part of the music research is around the tempo, the weird sounding stuff, chaotic sound, not about speed melodic songs, progressive is near with power metal!
@MrSwac31 being "prog" is taking whatever the previous standard is to a new level musically. in this case, Meshuggah has taken metal and added crazy time signature changes, crazy guitars (8 strings ect.), and just a unique take on metal. much like bands like Dream Theater and Tool and Opeth. but each band does their own unique thing. much like bands back in the 70's did it. (Yes, Rush, Genesis, King Crimson)
@Jimihendrix6699 yes prog is : "taking whatever the previous standard is to a new level musically" but Meshuggah didn't take any previous standard to a new level they created one the Djent: speed Chords palm muted with wierd time signature (prog use big, long time signature not weird ) and with a death metal sounding and atmosphere !
@MrSwac31you obviously don't know what you're talking about. in Tool's Rosetta Stoned they switch time signatures over 15 times and use signatures like 5/8, 5/4, 9/8, 7/4, 11/8, 6/4, 15/4, 7/8. im not even going to argue this with you if you're going to throw bands into genres with minor differences. its really a testament to how much nonsense all these little sub-genres are.
@Jimihendrix6699 did i say the opposite? i never said that prog don't use difficult time signature i was speaking about the reason why they use difficult time signature, one is searching to take a music genre to an highter level of technicity (prog) an other is trying to creat something that 's gona disturb you, make u feel weird (experimental ,djent, math metal,mathcore). Experimental and Prog are similar (technics music genre) but the idea behind is different!
@MrSwac31 i don't know, i mean i know what you're saying but "trying to create something that's going to disturb you and make you feel weird" is a common theme in metal. metal is metal because its raw, nasty and in your face. to me, bands like Tool and Meshuggah are progressive because they shed that property and take it to a higher, more orderly level. to me, being experimental is a means of being progressive. i just can't say experimental is its own genre. thats why their prog to me.
@Jimihendrix6699 the big difference is that one improve something and the other try (by using some of the old things) something that's gona be completly new ( and mostly shit ). Experimental is a like a : u are nothing now caus u are trying too find something new so i put u in experimental! Prog search the rigor and the complexity, until experimental search the chaos by the use of the complexity! It's to point of view and i respect it and like : The Human Abstract, protest the hero c'est la vie
@MrSwac31 and as you can probably tell, im not a big sub-sub genre guy. i don't really like to be all technical with genres and classifications. i apologize for being a tad bit harsh and insulting earlier.
@MrSwac31 prog is taking the previous standard to a whole new level musically. this means stepping out of 4/4 time and simple tempo changes. Meshuggah has done exactly that, just as bands like Dream Theater, Tool, and Opeth have done. and they have done it just like bands like Yes, Genesis, Rush, King Crimson did in the 70's. how can you call something Prog METAL and then say its not aggressive? that defeats the whole purpose of metal.
@Jimihendrix6699 Meshuggah can only go in 3 boxes : 1 experimental metal ( creating conplex music like never been done before, Jimi Hendrix was a experental rock artist for some songs!) 2 Math metal ( death metal + weird time signature+ really fat sound ) 3 Djent ( a genre they created who's about chords mostly with fat big sound and weird time signature )
and maybe if u really want progressive metal but for me it's not true
The Internet has been key to the development and distribution of djent music, with websites such as got-djent , SoundCloud and the guitar forum sevenstring playing a large part in creating fanbases for many more popular djent bands such as Periphery.
THEY ARE NOT PROGRESSIVE, it's Djent (a genre they've created without knowing) and a math metal band, not progressive band at ALL! it's experimental if u want, not progressive!
@MrSwac31 Djent is a specific power chord, not a genre, ask any of the so-called "Djent" bands out there, they'll tell you the same. Math Metal is progressive, therefore it's Progressive Metal.
@CalculatingInfinity6 Djent is a genre in the underground metal scene. The word "djent" is an onomatopoeia for a heavily palm-muted, distorted guitar chord. It is generally considered to have been made popular by Fredrik Thordendal of Meshuggah.
@CalculatingInfinity6 Typically, the word is used to refer to music that makes use of this sound, to the sound itself, or to the scene that revolves around it. Its meaning is the subject of much debate, and there is some controversy in regards to its classification as a new subgenre.
I think these guys have made huge strides between albums, the vocals changed, the concepts are obviously different and the music sounds different, the polyrhythmic nature is whats makes them meshuggah, I whole-heartedly disagree.
i have nothing more to say from that great fucking kind of meshuggah's masterpiece..hail to them..!!!being a drummer as i am is an honor to mentoring that cool guy like tomas haake...!!!!!
He revealed the biggest issue all the drummers have and the correction is this..."Just lean back" while playing bleed on the drums!
Hmmm...So we had Aztec "two step"..and now "Lean back" lol Please Meshuggah..never change your ways into the mindless self destructing nonsense people call RAP...Aka..Retards attempting Poetry.
This band..in the past 2 months..has taken a spot next to my favorite band of all time..that being TOOL. Rock on bitches!!
It was indeed inspiring and refreshing to know that someone who is at the top of their game still needs to "train" and "practice"....that they just can't sit down and bang stuff like this out without a herculean effort. He is an amazing drummer, and deserves our respect!
It's very refreshing to hear that even Tomas Haake struggled with Bleed. Maintaining balance on the throne while leading with both feet at high speed for an extended time is very very tough. I love when really incredible drummers reveal that they had to practice something for a long time, as Chris Adler has discussed as well. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice.
Every time I look for a drummer to jam with they are always like...yea I play double bass really well. Then I'm like... K later. Double bass isn't an instrument. If you want to play anytype of metal, you need to know how to use the whole drum kit (double kick included) I made the mistake of jamming with this kid who said that once, and DAMN. He wasn't lying. But thats all he could do. Constant double bass. No cymbals at all. No hihat. No snare. He didn't even have skins on the toms.
It's good to know that the master himself had to really practise this one to get it right. Now I don't feel so sucky for having to practise it too for a shit load of time
@Jammey90 That's true, but look up any music besides more 'classy' music (opera, classical, jazz, etc.) and it's a dickfest everywhere. Young, angry, and anonymous.
@Jammey90 Metal isn't really a genre. Heavy metal is the real genre... all the other "...metal" sorts (genre if you so want to) are based on heavy metal!
@epicKiipa metal is the genre, heavy is a subgenre. if you say metal, you mean heavy, death, black, doom, power, prog.... if you say heavy metal, you mean black sabbath, motörhead, iron maiden and stuff like that.
I honestly had no idea he struggled on this track it sounds so effortless.It's testament to how incredible a drummer he is! Meshuggah are the greatest technicians on the planet in a league of their own. 1st 2mins of I prove the guitarists are untouchable,Chaosphere has the greatest drumming ever and Bleed is truly impossible to cover lol! Rush are cool but this is beyond anyone.
@joaosimpson99 nope, but he probably plays for a gay band called Rush or something. Seriously though, Neil is a machine, I just think it takes more tallent to write something like this. I'm a guitarist though, so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
@sipinflames - lolwut? YYZ or La villa stangiata are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder than bleed... Neil peart is much more talented than this guy, like him or not, it's a fact.
@joaosimpson99 haha obviously you're the one that doesn't know shit about music because its subjective, and in my opinion Rush is fuckin gay. But you like the Simpson's too so you're probably 15 or retarded.
@sipinflames You can't use absolute terms to describe something that varies from person to person. And you're obviously a Neil fanboy, so gtfo, this is Thomas Haake country
@gordonmontford You can respect something without liking it. If Rush walked into my house right now of course I would ask for an autograph, but not because I like their music.
the drummer i've been tudoring had been feeling cocky lately. so i gave him this song as homework. told him to take it 1 minute at a time
week one: came back with a chip on his shoulder
week two: came back frustrated, but after i showed him that it would be easier to carry the upbeat by switching his drive from his right to his left foot, walked out with a new chip on his shoulder
week three: came in with tears in his eyes. "i can't do it. i just can't....."
I in no way am trying to come off as in the same league as Tomas Haake, I'm only saying this to take some of the mystery away from what he is playing from those reading this that may not be aware of what is going on with the kick drum pattern. Haake is a drum god and my favorite drummer in the metal genre. The kick pattern is based on a herta...a triplet within a triplet. Say you play a triplet RRL...throw a left between the two rights like this RLR. L..
@elnovakaine Ya, that's the easiest way to do that initial pattern. RLR L RLR L RLR L And I can't tell just from a quick listen but you can also do things like RLR L R LRL R L RLR in which you left foot leads every other triplet. The tempo is so fast that I can't even tell if he does that or not. These kinds of patterns take insane amounts of practice and discipline even with slow tempos.
@ke812 Yes sir. The variations are infinite.. I threw that out for a younger drummer who may not have thought of subdividing triplets with triplets. Tomas Haake is a genius. He is able to play this technical and brutal music flawlessly and also has a laid back pulse and groove too, even live...better. I can understand what he's doing but to play it like that, and even more impressive to create it....no way.
has he lived in America or England or something? He barely has an accent!
gangsterthomas1000 1 week ago
i tried to play this song on my drums. now i know why it is titled Bleed.
jebotekebo 2 weeks ago 5
everyone talks about the drums on this track, but this is the most percussive guitar riff I have ever heard
amusingisthedawn 2 weeks ago
Twelfth album? Nah....
MrFrothinger 1 month ago
The pattern is a hybrid rudiment called a "herta."
spacitydrummer4JC 1 month ago
hahahah...lolzzz...i want too see him in fear factory...even dino can't catch up with him...the rest would just fail too see his vision.
Even hoglan is a number too high for f-factory
armenius28 1 month ago
12th album?
lokealexander 1 month ago
What the fuck is that dumpster looking thing moving in the background?
ChegzGT1EB 1 month ago
@ChegzGT1EB guess its a boat..
Jansson33 1 month ago
haha that big eyed meditating guy at the end from the video is so scary yet so funny at the same time
12disneyhater 1 month ago
Haake is a fucking machine and still fascinates me to this day! Keep it up sir :D
AMartins92 2 months ago
I broke my drumsticks and my hands trying to learn bleed...now I can't bandage my head wounds...
SymposiumOfGoose 3 months ago
playing that part properly.....you can say that again and again! ur a beast!
Josieman543 3 months ago
I seriously think more about this song than about anything else during a day.. it's not just tones and sound I like, it makes me feel really great
hanesoid 3 months ago
Bleed is such an incredible song, but has such a HORRIBLE videoclip. I guess it's Nuclear Blast's commercial policy that caused it. At least I hope it is.
titusbeertsen 4 months ago
@titusbeertsen You think? I actually really really love the music video
DaftCarrot95 2 months ago
@DaftCarrot95 Then I guess you're into gothic styles and sadomasochism? I find the video unworthy of Meshuggah's music and profound lyrics, it makes them look like the next nu-metal band trying to be angry or 'evil' with some disturbing images.
titusbeertsen 2 months ago
You haven't seen the last of me! I'll get you Haakeman!! (:<
VladFerdinand1 4 months ago
This song will surely become a metal anthem
damopro20 4 months ago
I love this band, but are they satanic?
NachoAmigo97 4 months ago
@NachoAmigo97 Satanic? haha nah they arent, but they do eat satanic bands for breakfast.
VladFerdinand1 4 months ago 2
@NachoAmigo97 Yes, they hail the leviathan of salvation.
ErraticReviews 4 months ago
@NachoAmigo97 are you retarded?surely are atheist if anything
Thomlistentoslayer 4 months ago
@NachoAmigo97 their lyrical themes face much more complex subjects than god or satan.
SpatialRiftUK 4 months ago
This song doesn't stand out because of the drumming.This song is hard to play on every instrument the whole song stands out on it's own.
AtanasovPetar 4 months ago
Thought about never touching my drumsticks again, but that gives new hope.
Thorbrandt 6 months ago
Stolt svensk.
Mukadez 6 months ago 14
Meshuggah is an extreme/experimental metal band. Not progressive.
SUnraveling69 6 months ago
@SUnraveling69 its progressive... cunt
jumatm 6 months ago
@SUnraveling69 its all the same
butterknucklez 6 months ago
@SUnraveling69 I always saw Meshuggah as just Rhythmical Metal.
punk9999643 4 months ago
@SUnraveling69 Well, that's interesting. Why do you think they're not progressive?
ZorroIX 4 months ago
@ZorroIX IDK, I just see it as a more technical extreme metal band. My image of progressive metal is more like Evergrey or Communic.
SUnraveling69 4 months ago
0:30 done! That explains EVERYTHING!
douchebagcrew9 6 months ago
even though i got A* at GCSE, his english is better than mine
Redtape88 7 months ago
The main thing I was surprised about, as lame as this sounds, is how clear his english in. For some reason I expected them all to be very heavily accented. I can't even be surprised about how fucking skilled he is because, come on, it's fucking Tomas Haake. Obviously the dude is easily one of the greatest drummers of all time, in metal at least.
WhitexAbyss 7 months ago
well...fuck lol
on3n1ght3r666 7 months ago
"omg haake is inhuman"
no he's not!!! yes he's a quality drummer!! maybe he practiced for hours on end instead of sitting with his thumb up his arse and whining saying "ill never be that good"!! guess what? all that practice has clearly fucking paid off so maybe if you do the same you may be just maybe be as good as or even better than haake!!!
UKMarines 7 months ago 7
@UKMarines Very well said.
JoshFischl 6 months ago
@JoshFischl thank you.
UKMarines 6 months ago
Ha ha, he's pretending that he had to learn this song just so we can think he's human. Oh he's so modest
frysmaktoff 7 months ago 126
@frysmaktoff He needs to keep himself hidden amongst the crowds..
donSparda 1 month ago
sick! meshuggah är feta
mrMartinRbest 7 months ago
@mrMartinRbest Helt klart!
Sormannn 7 months ago
Twelth album? No....
ChainsawVsGod 7 months ago
@triviumftw Don't you ever fucking lump jordison and Lombardo together again... yes I left jordison uncapitalized on porpose
punkrockdrummer 7 months ago 4
He pronounces english fucking great for being from Sweden, us Scandinavians always have that stereotypical accent...
ilikezelda64 7 months ago
BLEED is one of the greatest and most commanding metal song ever written imo...
rhorschack 8 months ago 3
My favourite word for this kind of stuff is Mathcore. Kind of sums it up.
Djent is a word used to describe a sound.
i.e. Djent-Djent-Djent-Djent
cougarcartel 8 months ago
@cougarcartel it's not mathcore... converge and botch are mathcore... the only thing you could call this other than djent is tech death, and meshuggah sounds next to nothing like other tech death bands.... they truly did create their own sound...
punkrockdrummer 7 months ago
@punkrockdrummer I'm so sick of listening to people placing them in this or that genre. Find any band that sounds like Meshuggah and you have a genre but you won't. Math metal? lol most beats go in 4/4 core. Its all the other shit like jazz elements and Haakes independence that makes people confused.
dunderogbrak 7 months ago
Is the bald guy at 4:05 ben kingsley?
sheb211991 8 months ago
@ Justice4AllOne
Yea, makes u feel better to know that even the best drummers and percussionists have to practice at it just like the rest of us. I must say though, I like how Haake explains his practicing techniques in this interview, because that is EXACTLY how I had to change my bass drum technique when first learning advanced double bass patterns, I struggled getting it down for a while because it would always seem like my left foot couldn't keep up with my right since it had more experienc
Xxlibra1018xX 8 months ago
The fact that Tomas Haake, of all people, had trouble with a drum beat shows how hard it really is.
Justice4AllOne 8 months ago
THE BEST OBZEN SONG
rusherjet 8 months ago
Hearing him talk about how difficult it was learning the pattern makes me want to kill myself less
Giveupthegh0st 9 months ago 132
@Giveupthegh0st he's only this good because he spends every second thinking about it or doing it.
Str8Faced 7 months ago
LMAO : 3:23 - BASIC PATTERN? :L Is he high? :L If that's a basic pattern, then Hitler basically killed five people. Space is basically 2 feet wide. The speed of light is basically slow. George Bush is basically a smart character.
MJJAexperiance 9 months ago 4
@MJJAexperiance LOL he meant basic as in the base pattern of the song lol, it would be kind of contradictory to call the pattern simple and then proclaim how difficult it was for him to master playing it.
DrumminBird 8 months ago
my favourite is still Dancers to a Discordant System
MajkeTiTvoje 9 months ago
listen to New Millenium Cyanide Christ and tell me if this is not djent!
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 Meshuggah are considered the fathers of Djent
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 i know but a guy was saying it's a progressive metal band and it wasn't Djent so, i just forget the @nameoftheguy.
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 they are Progressive Metal. its kind of like how Black Sabbath is considered stoner metal.
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 experimental if you want but not progressive.
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 "I’ve also learned a lot from Meshuggah. They’re not so much about polyrhythms as they are about trying different things together and seeing where they meet. They may play in three, then in five, then in four in one progression of riffs; if the drummer is playing over that in four, they’ll see where the rhythms meet up. It’s so exciting. Meshuggah are modern prog-rock as far as I’m concerned." excerpt from an Adam Jones interview.
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 what you're describing is experimental metal not progressive metal, progressive metal is a sub genre of HEAVY METAL inspire by heavy metal, jazz fusion, and classical music it's a really, really melodic kind of music and not agressive at all. The progressive metal isn't links with any kind of extreme metal like is Meshuggah, in progressive metal u'll never gona ear a Chords the all song is a shred! the only comon point with the experimental is the use of odd time signatures,...
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 Meshuggah is a really extreme metal band they praticly never use shred they use death glows for the singer, really big 8 strings guitars, double pedal (extreme metal only) and the big part of the music research is around the tempo, the weird sounding stuff, chaotic sound, not about speed melodic songs, progressive is near with power metal!
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 being "prog" is taking whatever the previous standard is to a new level musically. in this case, Meshuggah has taken metal and added crazy time signature changes, crazy guitars (8 strings ect.), and just a unique take on metal. much like bands like Dream Theater and Tool and Opeth. but each band does their own unique thing. much like bands back in the 70's did it. (Yes, Rush, Genesis, King Crimson)
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 yes prog is : "taking whatever the previous standard is to a new level musically" but Meshuggah didn't take any previous standard to a new level they created one the Djent: speed Chords palm muted with wierd time signature (prog use big, long time signature not weird ) and with a death metal sounding and atmosphere !
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31you obviously don't know what you're talking about. in Tool's Rosetta Stoned they switch time signatures over 15 times and use signatures like 5/8, 5/4, 9/8, 7/4, 11/8, 6/4, 15/4, 7/8. im not even going to argue this with you if you're going to throw bands into genres with minor differences. its really a testament to how much nonsense all these little sub-genres are.
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 did i say the opposite? i never said that prog don't use difficult time signature i was speaking about the reason why they use difficult time signature, one is searching to take a music genre to an highter level of technicity (prog) an other is trying to creat something that 's gona disturb you, make u feel weird (experimental ,djent, math metal,mathcore). Experimental and Prog are similar (technics music genre) but the idea behind is different!
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 i don't know, i mean i know what you're saying but "trying to create something that's going to disturb you and make you feel weird" is a common theme in metal. metal is metal because its raw, nasty and in your face. to me, bands like Tool and Meshuggah are progressive because they shed that property and take it to a higher, more orderly level. to me, being experimental is a means of being progressive. i just can't say experimental is its own genre. thats why their prog to me.
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 the big difference is that one improve something and the other try (by using some of the old things) something that's gona be completly new ( and mostly shit ). Experimental is a like a : u are nothing now caus u are trying too find something new so i put u in experimental! Prog search the rigor and the complexity, until experimental search the chaos by the use of the complexity! It's to point of view and i respect it and like : The Human Abstract, protest the hero c'est la vie
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 and as you can probably tell, im not a big sub-sub genre guy. i don't really like to be all technical with genres and classifications. i apologize for being a tad bit harsh and insulting earlier.
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 it's no big deal, what if now we just listen to music?
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 prog is taking the previous standard to a whole new level musically. this means stepping out of 4/4 time and simple tempo changes. Meshuggah has done exactly that, just as bands like Dream Theater, Tool, and Opeth have done. and they have done it just like bands like Yes, Genesis, Rush, King Crimson did in the 70's. how can you call something Prog METAL and then say its not aggressive? that defeats the whole purpose of metal.
Jimihendrix6699 9 months ago
@Jimihendrix6699 Meshuggah can only go in 3 boxes : 1 experimental metal ( creating conplex music like never been done before, Jimi Hendrix was a experental rock artist for some songs!) 2 Math metal ( death metal + weird time signature+ really fat sound ) 3 Djent ( a genre they created who's about chords mostly with fat big sound and weird time signature )
and maybe if u really want progressive metal but for me it's not true
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 You're a moron
sp6541 9 months ago
@sp6541 and u are douchebag so STFU by the way your comment u can put it in ur A*s. Come back when you'll know how to use argument and not insult!
MrSwac31 9 months ago
and you sir, are a moron
sp6541 9 months ago
@sp6541 and u a bouchebag
MrSwac31 9 months ago
The Internet has been key to the development and distribution of djent music, with websites such as got-djent , SoundCloud and the guitar forum sevenstring playing a large part in creating fanbases for many more popular djent bands such as Periphery.
MrSwac31 9 months ago
THEY ARE NOT PROGRESSIVE, it's Djent (a genre they've created without knowing) and a math metal band, not progressive band at ALL! it's experimental if u want, not progressive!
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@MrSwac31 Djent is a specific power chord, not a genre, ask any of the so-called "Djent" bands out there, they'll tell you the same. Math Metal is progressive, therefore it's Progressive Metal.
CalculatingInfinity6 9 months ago
@CalculatingInfinity6 Djent is a genre in the underground metal scene. The word "djent" is an onomatopoeia for a heavily palm-muted, distorted guitar chord. It is generally considered to have been made popular by Fredrik Thordendal of Meshuggah.
MrSwac31 9 months ago
@CalculatingInfinity6 Typically, the word is used to refer to music that makes use of this sound, to the sound itself, or to the scene that revolves around it. Its meaning is the subject of much debate, and there is some controversy in regards to its classification as a new subgenre.
MrSwac31 9 months ago
I think these guys have made huge strides between albums, the vocals changed, the concepts are obviously different and the music sounds different, the polyrhythmic nature is whats makes them meshuggah, I whole-heartedly disagree.
ubermensch811 9 months ago
am i the only one who dosent want to suck these guys dicks for shoving the same crap out for 12 fucking albums?
dopefiend138 9 months ago
@dopefiend138
I guess you haven't heard any of their albums.
Dhanijel1 9 months ago
The guy is a genious, the song turned out to be one of the most awesome things humanity has ever heard.
polartoad 9 months ago
They would be from sweden, wouldn't they..
MrMct95 9 months ago
@MrMct95 they are from sweden
Off3er 9 months ago
i have nothing more to say from that great fucking kind of meshuggah's masterpiece..hail to them..!!!being a drummer as i am is an honor to mentoring that cool guy like tomas haake...!!!!!
TheKilleo 9 months ago
@mebemetal thats fuckin awesome
MultiSnopro 9 months ago
when they say 12th album, do they mean all the EPs too? wikipedia only lists six ._.
mittensandfobeo 9 months ago
He revealed the biggest issue all the drummers have and the correction is this..."Just lean back" while playing bleed on the drums!
Hmmm...So we had Aztec "two step"..and now "Lean back" lol Please Meshuggah..never change your ways into the mindless self destructing nonsense people call RAP...Aka..Retards attempting Poetry.
This band..in the past 2 months..has taken a spot next to my favorite band of all time..that being TOOL. Rock on bitches!!
Tool78Maynard 10 months ago
Anurism?...more like Anal-rism...haha
FOBmzunguREPTILICUS 10 months ago
THIS IS THE HEAVIEST FUCKING METAL SONG I VE EVER HEARD... I DONT CARE WHAT OTHERS THINK
shuszzam 10 months ago
damn this is thier 12th album?!?!?!?!??!
TruthTheSpeaker 10 months ago
@TruthTheSpeaker wtf no
Mazter0fMuppetz 10 months ago
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Sweden?
And here I thought they were neutral. `;}>
mooseasaurusrex 10 months ago
thomas is a machine
AcidSh33tz 10 months ago
It was indeed inspiring and refreshing to know that someone who is at the top of their game still needs to "train" and "practice"....that they just can't sit down and bang stuff like this out without a herculean effort. He is an amazing drummer, and deserves our respect!
TheMeanDM 10 months ago 2
what the hell is moving behind him in the interview!?!??
rootveeld 10 months ago
@rootveeld a fucking trees branches!
jayfatha 10 months ago
@rootveeld I think it's a small boat.
blutundboden 10 months ago
get that flo shit outta here. for real.
manicbeatss 10 months ago
It's very refreshing to hear that even Tomas Haake struggled with Bleed. Maintaining balance on the throne while leading with both feet at high speed for an extended time is very very tough. I love when really incredible drummers reveal that they had to practice something for a long time, as Chris Adler has discussed as well. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice.
tbartels007 11 months ago
wonder what crawled up spininflames ass and died
TheFearAsylum 11 months ago
he can literally sit there like, "yeah i own the drumming community"
georgecochrane 11 months ago
Every time I look for a drummer to jam with they are always like...yea I play double bass really well. Then I'm like... K later. Double bass isn't an instrument. If you want to play anytype of metal, you need to know how to use the whole drum kit (double kick included) I made the mistake of jamming with this kid who said that once, and DAMN. He wasn't lying. But thats all he could do. Constant double bass. No cymbals at all. No hihat. No snare. He didn't even have skins on the toms.
plosilae 11 months ago
@plosilae Should jam to Stengah, another song by Meshuggah, barely any double bass at all, but a groovy beat.
Doneyear 10 months ago
Cheer up people. Even Tomas Haake couldn't play it at first.
SumFallGrace 11 months ago
DAMN YOU POLYRHYTHMIC PICKING, DAMN YOU!!!!
lxXMETALXxl 11 months ago
bloody hell. i couldnt even do his bloody hand-tapping at 2:28 -.-
noobker 11 months ago
wtf the back is moving
EADPE 11 months ago
Tomas is a badass but all you Neil Peart haters need to go jump off a fucking cliff. That's like saying jimmy page sucks. Legends don't suck.
xlEDlx 11 months ago 4
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It's good to know that the master himself had to really practise this one to get it right. Now I don't feel so sucky for having to practise it too for a shit load of time
Hheawy 11 months ago
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Hheawy 11 months ago
Im glad he made it. This is by far their best song for me.
Chinafarmerz 11 months ago 62
@Chinafarmerz :S Their best song?... No way.
Universe1189 7 months ago
HE couldn't do it, how the hell am i supposed to...damn you haake :D
ciuffoZanetti4 1 year ago
My favourite thing about Bleed is that it's Haake has got way harder songs out there.
slipknotmaggot4eva1 1 year ago
I challenge anyone to find a video, in the genre of music we call metal, that doesn't have two dickheads arguing about some really benign point.
Jammey90 1 year ago 27
@Jammey90 That's true, but look up any music besides more 'classy' music (opera, classical, jazz, etc.) and it's a dickfest everywhere. Young, angry, and anonymous.
Nem33 1 year ago 2
@Jammey90
impossible lol
MapexRG 8 months ago
@Jammey90 You can call me pedantic, but I don't really think "benign" is the right word.
MrMike0113 8 months ago
@MrMike0113 Yeah, you're right, completely got the wrong definition for that haha
Jammey90 8 months ago
@Jammey90 I was a little confused at first; I actually ended up double and triple-checking the definition myself.
MrMike0113 8 months ago
@Jammey90 challenge accepted. check out my vids. noone arguing there (yet -.-)
DarkFottloch 8 months ago
@Jammey90 Metal isn't really a genre. Heavy metal is the real genre... all the other "...metal" sorts (genre if you so want to) are based on heavy metal!
epicKiipa 8 months ago
@epicKiipa metal is the genre, heavy is a subgenre. if you say metal, you mean heavy, death, black, doom, power, prog.... if you say heavy metal, you mean black sabbath, motörhead, iron maiden and stuff like that.
givemeajackson 8 months ago
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@givemeajackson If you say metal you mean heavy metal!
epicKiipa 8 months ago
I honestly had no idea he struggled on this track it sounds so effortless.It's testament to how incredible a drummer he is! Meshuggah are the greatest technicians on the planet in a league of their own. 1st 2mins of I prove the guitarists are untouchable,Chaosphere has the greatest drumming ever and Bleed is truly impossible to cover lol! Rush are cool but this is beyond anyone.
TheGubernot 1 year ago
this very well may be the best drummer on the planet...
sipinflames 1 year ago 3
@sipinflames - ever heard of neil peart?
joaosimpson99 1 year ago
@joaosimpson99 nope, but he probably plays for a gay band called Rush or something. Seriously though, Neil is a machine, I just think it takes more tallent to write something like this. I'm a guitarist though, so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
sipinflames 1 year ago
@sipinflames - lolwut? YYZ or La villa stangiata are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder than bleed... Neil peart is much more talented than this guy, like him or not, it's a fact.
joaosimpson99 1 year ago
@joaosimpson99 can you not read? I DONT CARE. fuck off and go listen to rush you tool.
sipinflames 1 year ago
@sipinflames wow xD you should quit music you dont know shit about it... Go learn something faggot
joaosimpson99 1 year ago
@joaosimpson99 haha obviously you're the one that doesn't know shit about music because its subjective, and in my opinion Rush is fuckin gay. But you like the Simpson's too so you're probably 15 or retarded.
sipinflames 1 year ago
@sipinflames You can't use absolute terms to describe something that varies from person to person. And you're obviously a Neil fanboy, so gtfo, this is Thomas Haake country
TheFearAsylum 1 year ago
@TheFearAsylum wtf are you talking about assclown i hate rush. fuck off you gay bitch
sipinflames 1 year ago
@sipinflames Im not a fan of Rush, but being a musician, I respect them for who they are.
gordonmontford 1 year ago
@gordonmontford that's cool not
sipinflames 1 year ago
@gordonmontford You can respect something without liking it. If Rush walked into my house right now of course I would ask for an autograph, but not because I like their music.
sipinflames 11 months ago
@sipinflames If Rush walked into your house right now, you've probably got bigger problems to worry about.
Kapr1Sun 11 months ago
@Kapr1Sun Honestly I think that would be sweet and I hate their music....
sipinflames 11 months ago
@joaosimpson99 being a drummer bleed is alot harder than yyz. YYZ i learned about 4 -5 years ago, bleed is still fucking impossible
gordonmontford 11 months ago
@gordonmontford the only hard part that i see about it is the bass, that's insane :/
joaosimpson99 11 months ago
@joaosimpson99 It doesnt sound hard but playing that for 4 + minutes is absolute death on your legs
gordonmontford 11 months ago
Monster.
PurpleSixAndNine 1 year ago
the drummer i've been tudoring had been feeling cocky lately. so i gave him this song as homework. told him to take it 1 minute at a time
week one: came back with a chip on his shoulder
week two: came back frustrated, but after i showed him that it would be easier to carry the upbeat by switching his drive from his right to his left foot, walked out with a new chip on his shoulder
week three: came in with tears in his eyes. "i can't do it. i just can't....."
mebemetal 1 year ago 148
@mebemetal lol awsome
Fireball69 1 year ago
@mebemetal Thankfully I skipped directly to week three and avoided the first two steps.
bobomchobo 11 months ago 2
@mebemetal Great teachers challenge their students. Good to hear you're doing that.
TheTerrorUforgot 10 months ago
@TheTerrorUforgot Yes but they don't terrorize the fuck outta them
anshumanchaube95 10 months ago
did he ever live in the US or something? his english is so perfect
jackpaice 1 year ago
Damn his English is perfect, he speaks with like a Midwestern American accent haha
McLeod54 1 year ago
Bleed's Awesome
TheR00ler 1 year ago
12 albums?
i only have 8
TheR00ler 1 year ago
I in no way am trying to come off as in the same league as Tomas Haake, I'm only saying this to take some of the mystery away from what he is playing from those reading this that may not be aware of what is going on with the kick drum pattern. Haake is a drum god and my favorite drummer in the metal genre. The kick pattern is based on a herta...a triplet within a triplet. Say you play a triplet RRL...throw a left between the two rights like this RLR. L..
elnovakaine 1 year ago
@elnovakaine Ya, that's the easiest way to do that initial pattern. RLR L RLR L RLR L And I can't tell just from a quick listen but you can also do things like RLR L R LRL R L RLR in which you left foot leads every other triplet. The tempo is so fast that I can't even tell if he does that or not. These kinds of patterns take insane amounts of practice and discipline even with slow tempos.
ke812 1 year ago
@ke812 Yes sir. The variations are infinite.. I threw that out for a younger drummer who may not have thought of subdividing triplets with triplets. Tomas Haake is a genius. He is able to play this technical and brutal music flawlessly and also has a laid back pulse and groove too, even live...better. I can understand what he's doing but to play it like that, and even more impressive to create it....no way.
elnovakaine 1 year ago
lol ! Tomas looks so much like his brother! i was my teacher just recently i "digital sound produktion" :D
lollebolle 1 year ago
Is he american??
akhimakhi93 1 year ago
@akhimakhi93 swedish
unoulike 1 year ago
@unoulike How does he have an american accent :S wierd...
akhimakhi93 1 year ago
@akhimakhi93 Many of us Swedes aren't too influenced by Swedish when talking English.
niljen92 1 year ago