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  • Rob Bell is an enemy of the Cross of Christ! He is what the apostles (i.e. Peter, James (Jesus' brother), John, Paul) warned us about.

  • Why do you hate Rob bell?

  • Sweet explanation. Thanks. You're right.

    Yet, why go as far as to make a video about his teachings?

  • Have mercy. Why make fun of someone just because you do not agree with his teachings?

    Why bother?

    Better yet, why make video to make fun of?

    Take care people. Praying for you.

  • @BalancedAbner The issue is not 'just because you don't agree with his teachings', the issue is that the Bible does not agree with Bell's teachings. It is correct to expose heresy and false gospels for what they are. As for making fun of Rob Bell, there are biblical examples of sarcasm. Elijah made fun of the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel, and the apostle Paul said of the ones teaching circumcision, I wish they'd go the whole way and castrate themselves. He mocked them, and rightly so.

  • @john17v17 I couldn't have said it any better myself! Amen, brother!

  • @john17v17 So you are justifying bashing on others with giving an example of what someone in the Bible did. Elijah also asked God to kill him because of his fear of Jezebel. Should we do that, too?

  • @BalancedAbner If you had a sound underestanding of hermeneutics and exegesis you would know the answer to that already. Your question reveals you are nowhere near as balanced as your username claims.

  • @john17v17 So what you are saying is that you are right, Rob Bell is wrong, and that justifies your reason to criticize?

    I'm sorry man.

  • @BalancedAbner No, I am saying that the Bible is right, and Rob Bell is wrong.

    Apology accepted.

  • @john17v17 But Rob Bell also claims the Bible as his source of Truth...

  • @BalancedAbner Do you know any church history? Many heretics through the ages have claimed the Bible as their source of truth. The problem is that the doctrines they construct are false.

  • @john17v17 Haha. Yeah, man. I do.

    GB brother.

  • @BalancedAbner P.S. I'll help you out here with a clue... the examples from Scripture that we are supposed to follow and imitate are the ones we are told in Scripture to follow and imitate, which includes refuting heresies and rebuking those who spread them

  • 'As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!' Gal5.12

    The issue here was circumcision, & Paul's comment suggesting they 'cut themselves off completely' is an ironic,even sarcastic and mocking comment, a clever play on words. When people preach false gospels,its right to expose the falseness, and its right to mock those who mock God. Well done with this video JammyMower. Bell is a heretic.

    If we love God,we will contend for the true faith.

  • (the prophets of Baal) 'called upon the name of Baal from morning until noon, saying, "O Baal, answer us!" But there was no voice, and no one answered. And they limped around the altar that they had made.'

    'And at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, "Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened."'

    Excellent biting sarcasm from Elijah as he mocks the false prohpets of Baal.

  • And how can we be sure if Rob Bell is someone of false prophets? Everyone has their own opinion, and he has expressed his, and now, I guess you are expressing yours through creating this video and posting it. All of these accusations of false prophets make me wonder how many people actually are expressing false prophet. How are we to know that YOU are not expressing false prophets?

  • @allysagilbreath We can know the truth from the Bible, which is God's word to us. That's what we are supposed to do, as the Bereans did.

    Acts 17.11:'Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.'

    The real reason some don't like seeing Bell mocked is not 'cos mocking is always wrong,its because they like Bell's heresy and he's a hero to them.

  • i have a degree in biblical studies and theology and i dont disagree with much of what Bell actually says. I understand that this is satire so in a way im choosing not to take a lot of your charges as literal, after all Bell quotes scripture constantly and i think we can all admit that. I would encourage you to read his books, correct what needs to be corrected to best suit your personal theology. but certainly be wary of condemning a man as a false prophet who is leading people to Christ.

  • @mikeyfof In Dust,Bell says we should have faith in ourselves that we can be like Jesus,that God has faith in us,in Bullhorn,Bell says he doesnt understand what talk of condemnation and conversion has to do with Jesus' message,space precludes more heresy from Velvet Elvis,and other Nooma DVDs.

    If you dont see a problem with what Bell is teaching, I suggest you go back to the place you got your degree from and ask for a refund.They didnt train you to think biblically.

  • @john17v17 i can appreciate that you disagree with some of his statements and i suppose that i read them in a different way than you did. when i read we should have faith in ourselves, i didnt take that to mean worship ourselves i believe we can be like jesus (phil 4.13) and that Jesus calls us to that level of perfection (mt 5.48) I dont see Jesus as a condemning figure either, he came to save, not condemn (lk 19.10). i feel this is biblical thinking, so i wont ask for that refund just yet!

  • @mikeyfof 'I dont see Jesus as a condemning figure either, he came to save, not condemn' You are only recognizing one aspect of who Jesus is.Saviour of those who trust in him.But also the judge:

    'when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might'

  • @mikeyfof Some of the most biblically illiterate people have degrees in biblical studies. Some of them pastor large churches too. Your assessment is naive at best and lacks real, biblical discernment. Rob Bell may be leading people to (a) "christ" but it's not the one revealed in scripture.

  • @gtrjunky I'm very sorry that my comment made you feel so hostile, junky. all i meant to say was that we should not condemn and publicly degrade our brothers in Christ. I wanted to say that we should analyze the things that Bell says, as we would any other teacher and correct those things where he has made biblical errors. I dont agree that statement lacks biblical discernment but i can certainly concede that perhaps i didnt make myself clear.

  • @mikeyfof I guess it's fair to say then that the Mormons are leading people to christ as well? I mean after all, they do use the name "jesus" right? Oprah says she believe's in "jesus" too.

  • @gtrjunky Im not sure what ive done to earn your hostility. what you have said here in no way correlates to what i have written. im not sure how you got from "we should analyze the things that Bell says... and correct biblical errors" to "Mormons are leading people to Christ" but if you are asking for an opinion on that I would say no, Mormon's are not leading people to Christ. As for Oprah, I have never met the woman, I don't know what her personal convictions and beliefs are so i cant comment

  • @mikeyfof You must be imposing your own contrived "hostility" onto my words. Mormons, like Bell, are leading people to the jesus of their own invention.

  • @gtrjunky really? you dont think that youre being hostile by implying that im approving of a modern day cult by suggesting that we shouldnt be so quick to condemn Rob Bell? Is your use of sarcasm intended as friendly wit? should i not take your words "biblically illiterate" "naive at best" and "lacking biblical discernment" as critical? all i have said in my comments on this thread is that Bell quotes scripture and we should question and test his teachings without degrading and condemning him

  • @gtrjunky i just watched a great video on discernment. talks about Acts 17 where the bereans are described as "being of more noble character..." because they questioned the words of Paul. they tested and examined everything that he had to say to ensure it aligned with scripture. It was a great message and reiterated exactly what i originally said "Read his books. Correct what needs to be Corrected." it also aligns with my next comment "Analyze and correct biblical errors" the video was yours.

  • @mikeyfof Ihave read (1) of his books (Velvet Elvis) and listened to dozens of his "sermons".

    Results?... Fail!

    Nuff said!

  • @mikeyfof My friend what good is a degree if you don't have the Truth in your heart? Bell clearly states in his Nov '04 Christianity Today interview that God's Word is not Divine but man made.

  • @YourBrotherByGrace You dont know what Truth lays in my heart or what i believe. Its not ours to condemn. You have every right to question, probe, test, and disagree with everything any teacher says. Bell himself calls us to do that in velvet elvis. to not take his words as truth but to examine them. We dont know the man, and we all need to stop condemning him. you dont like what he says? pray for him. its the best thing we can do! Publicly flaming him in a cartoon makes us all look like fools

  • @mikeyfof Ah, but I can read what you are typing and "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks". I have judged Rob Bells teachings and they are humanistic, new age and are in the same company as the lie the devil told Eve. She was tempted by the knowledge and it killed her, Adam and all of us. As it is written, a little knowledge puffs up. This is true for all of us, including those who brag about their degrees. Maybe if you didn't brag then I wouldn't have called you out on it.

  • @YourBrotherByGrace i actually agree that i had no right to state my education. my intention was not to brag, but to set myself apart from the mindless Bell worshippers in this world, but youre right it was pointless. My point since the beginning of my involvement here is that we should watch our condemnation. we dont have the right to say hes not saved, and so many of these hate filled videos do nothing but prove the worlds view of us as hypocrites who love everyone and hate their own brother

  • @mikeyfof I agree we shouldn't condemn anyone's salvation and I have not done so with RB. However we are called to make a judgment call on the teachings on those who present themselves as teachers. That is what I have done with RB. If I have offended you then please forgive me, as what has come out of your keyboard is humility, one of the fruits of following Jesus, as it is written, "and you shall know them by their fruit". I am not here to bash anyone, especially a brother in Christ Jesus.

  • @YourBrotherByGrace couldnt agree more bro. none of us should be hurting our brothers in Christ. We're to model the perfection that Jesus calls us to. As i said, it is our responsibility to pray for RB and for those who follow him without discernment. I take no offense to your comments, i see that you are trying to act in love. when i speak of condemnation, i refer to those on this page and on others that have called into question his salvation. Its simply not ours to judge. Blessings Brother.

  • @mikeyfof "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits.Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? ...Thus you will recognize them by their fruits." Matt 7.15-20

    Jesus seemed to think it was for us to judge whether someone was a false prophet. Are you saying he was wrong?

  • @john17v17 actually according to that verse, Jesus uses the word "beware" in Greek, "Προσοχή" meaning take care, be cautious, regard, note, etc. In no way does this verse support the creation of a Cartoon that misquotes and slanders the words of any man. Notice how Jesus did not use "καταδικάζω" meaning condemn, damn, or sentence. We are called in 1 Jn 4:1 to test (δοκιμαζετε) the false prophets, still not condemn them. Mt 7:1 is clear that our condemnation brings judgment on ourselves.

  • @mikeyfof αλλα και εαν ημεις η αγγελος εξ ουρανου ευαγγελισηται [υμιν] παρ ο ευηγγελισαμεθα υμιν αναθεμα εστω

    I think that answers your objections.

  • @john17v17 Im not arguing that the preacher of a false gospel is cursed. im arguing that YOU, SIR, ARE NOT GOD. and therefore, YOU dont get to be the one to curse him. JammyMower, the creator of this video, is not in the right for slandering a man no matter what he stands for. Even if i were to concede that Bell is a heretic, which i am not, I would stand firm in the word screaming with my last gasping breath that it is never our place, as Christians, to condemn. 1 John 4:19. learn to love bro.

  • @mikeyfof I am not cursing or condemning anyone, I am pointing out the Biblical truth that heretics (which Bell clearly is, he denies the gospel) are already under God's curse & are already condemned eg 1Galatians1.6-9,John3.18.The Bible instructs that we should expose false teachers,& in apologetics in Scripture we clearly see both irony & sarcasm being used to mock those who mock God (which is what Bell is doing with his false gospel). Scream away if you want, you're wrong about this.

  • @john17v17 where do you see in apologetics or in scripture, misrepresentation, slander and lies? the quotes that this little RB robot says are not Rob's words, the argument is self-righteous. im sure that if the super christian robot had a real conversation with Bell he would receive far different answers than this hate filled video represents. you condemn him by calling him a false teacher. Romans 19:9 clearly states the key to salvation and you dont know if RB has done that or not.

  • @mikeyfof There is no Romans 19,is it a typo & you mean 10.9? Scripture indicates we CAN know whether someone has done that: "For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of" Matt12.34.I recognise the robot's words as being from Noomas and Velvet Elvis,with some licence,but not much.So no slander, its a fair parody of Bell.I'm truly sorry to hear you are ill,but all the more reason to be sure it is the true Gospel you believe,not Bell's version.Please visit my channel for 'What is the Gospel'

  • @mikeyfof Actually, most of this rob bell are straght from Bell's actual book and videos.

  • @john17v17 so its not upto you. on a more serious note i have found out i have terminal cancer and so i will not be replying to any more youtube debates. i spend a lot of my time on this website, time that i need to invest into my own walk, my family and now, my health. i wish you well brother. i have meant every word i have said as a caution and i hope you took no offense to them. God Bless you and your ministry whateverthat may be. if you have specific questions feel free to email me. peace

  • I have been keeping an eye on Rob Bell. His latest book that he will be putting out in March is the final straw for me. Rob Bells is a nowaday False teacher that the Bible teaches and warns us about.

    Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Jesus Christ.

  • Well done! You do know that it's a great sin to speak blasphemies against lord Bell don't you? His worshippers will be outraged by this video.

  • Well done making this, you've accurately summarised all that's wrong with Rob Bell and his emergent theology. The sad truth is people listen to Bell because unrepentant people like having their ears tickled 2 Timothy 4.3-4. The true gospel is a message that allows us no pride in self, as it calls us to repentance and faith in Christ alone. The true gospel is a message we cannot accept unless God opens our hearts to receive his word.

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