Japan Airlines 123 (Out of control) Part-5

[Hurtigruten365]

I began to cry :/

[victoriakirolos]

May them rest in peace, it was a horrible way to die.

[thenekom]

Must be rough being an airline mechanic. If an auto mechanic makes an improper repair, somebody is inconvenienced when their car breaks down. If an airline mechanic makes an improper repair, hundreds die. I can't imagine having that on my conscience.

[afgrocks123]

wow, Boeing not to blame? And JAL instead to be accused? Even the narrator was paid to lie :S America will never stop lying!

[imagineers0]

I want a parachute in my carry-on luggage. Too grim.

[afgrocks123]

@imagineers0 how do you jump?

[Hurtigruten365]

@imagineers0 LOL 

[desireeT01]

So much loss, simple repair not done correctly and every effort to keep the airplane going heading for a miracle; Rest In Peace flight 123

[galaxy712]

so sad...so much helplessness...

[robertdamico1]

God bless the souls on that aircraft. Kyo Sakamoto was one of them. He was a famous actor/singer in Japan. He had a huge hit in America titled Sukiyaki.

[BennyMfan]

@robertdamico1 He was one of those who wrote his wife a farewell note.... I wondered if he was one of those who might have been found alive if the US was allowed to intervene at the time.

[MrMethadrine]

Thats the most horiffic plane crash i can think of..

[b017ni3]

OK, flight 123 took off at 18:12, flew for 12 minutes, then without warning, lost almost all control due to an explosion. The crew fought to regain control for 32 minutes but still suffered a catastrophic landing at 18:56. During August, the sun sets at 18:35 and rises at 04:57, making it "too dark" for just 10 hours. Yet, rescuers still don't arrive for 14 hours!! We know they'd come most of the way the night before, so how did they account for the remaining 6 hours?! How does this happen?!

[Jetlag28]

It is really sad. My heart and prayers go out to those who lost loved ones on this tragic accident. The maintenance is at fault. I think Boeing is accountable since it is there aircraft but faulty maintenance is the major factor. I am sure that we don't have everything we need to know to make an educated opinion on assigning blame.

[Francozilla]

Crappy Plane, Crappy Engineers, Dumb Rescuers, Greedy Boeing...

RIP to the victims... NO ONE IS PERFECT.

[lucas2718]

Those thirty minutes must have felt like thirty years. Unimaginable.

[anthyman1]

@lucas2718

Not to mention the 14 hours in which most ot the survivors died...

[6400az]

@anthyman1

So, some people actually survived the impact?

[cme98]

There is no mention here of the Boeing Supervisor who signed off on the unauthorized rework. He committed suicide too.

[Lndmk227]

Heartbreaking that the pilots tried so hard, but couldn't make it back around to the airport in time. But valuable lessons were learned from this: Do the repair properly, or there will be consequences.

[Transfusions]

Not only the JAL engineer but also the captain who hit the 747's tail 7 years before the accident, committed suicide couple of years after the accident blaming of himself. It's sad thing.

[darkseraphimm]

@Transfusions So sad... to live with that weight of guilt...

[darkseraphimm]

These pilots.... no words can describe their heroic skills.... Nor words can describe the negligent stupidity of the rescuers...

[SolarisDeLuna]

@darkseraphimm I know right I mean how many lives could they have saved if they had started the rescue right after the crash instead of 14 hours after.

[darkseraphimm]

@SolarisDeLuna History is filled with these instances that fools delayed help because of pride.. Look at the Russian submarine that sank in the Barents.. the crew were alive for hours as the inner compartments filled with cold water... tapping on the hull.. and yet the Russian Government declined all offers of help from the West because of pride and fear. Again..so sad.. the passengers and crew of that flight endured 30 min of horror until impact.. and then hours alone suffering before dying :(

[SolarisDeLuna]

@darkseraphimm I agree it is very sad.

[magellanmax]

A row of rivets. I still can't wrap my brain around it.

[sinan9393]

Very Good Pilots unfortunally there were no chance to survive. Respect for holding that plane 30 minutes in the air with that demage !

[devan465]

I dont mean to be rude or anything, but that hand sticking up in the window of the plane in that one scene is terribly sad and shows you how delicate life really is.

[schlumbucket]

Good ol' yankee engineering!

[yasiru89]

Such senseless negligence. More than 500 people died because someone couldn't bother to put in (or remember to put in) an extra row of rivets? That's beyond tragic. This pretty much is rocket science, and appropriate responsibility should be taken on by all parties involved. I think the two suicides were truly acts of remorse because no one probably ever thought something so 'minor' as they may have thought it, if they did at all, could come back to amount to this.

[Altair9678]

While I'll give all those that have passed on my heart felt condolences along with most, I think I'll just depress everyone and say that we'll all join them one day. And since I saw Hiroshima and Nagasaki brought up...I just hope those that dropped the bomb have to face those they dropped it on. I just hope my actions need much less explaining when I die.

PS. for the want of a nail.

[zzzthaoster]

it's scary when you have careless people doing maintenance on airplanes.

[John94098]

@zzzthaoster, fucken oath mate

[Tanzenmusik]

I still don't see why those engineers at Boeing just didn't do the correct repair in the first place. Was it really too much effort to use the correct materials? Typical big business people, willing to put human life and tragedy at risk for a row of rivets that probably cost five bucks to make. It would take just as much effort to do the correct repair as it did to do the faulty one. I'm almost embarrassed to say that i am a part of this ongoing human race.

[jjobie]

@Tanzenmusik :(

[theWall0719]

Wasn't there another similar situation (in terms of hydraulic pressure loss) that occurred to a cargo plane? Just in this case the pilots managed to not only control the plane, but land it too just by using the engines.

[John94098]

@theWall0719, i dunno, maybe the cargo plane didn't lose all hydraulic fluid to everything, maybe only some things... but i could be wrong.

[MyLatestEscape]

@theWall0719 UAL232 (a DC10) lost its rear-mounted engine & hydraulics and managed to crash land at Sioux City Gateway Airport (SUX). Despite the loss of 111 out of 296 lives, it was considered a great example of a 'sucessfull' crash.

The major conrtibuting factor was managing to crash/land at an airport, and that SUX had recently went thru an emergency-preparadness drill. There was enough notice for dozens of ambulances and hundreds of emergency personnel to be on hand to save the survivors.

[hostrauer]

@theWall0719 There was a DHL Airbus A300 that took a missile in Iraq in 2003 and lost all hydraulic pressure and flight controls. The crew was able to land the plane somehow, and there were no fatalities. This was the first successful landing of a jumbo jet that had zero hydraulic control. Look up 2003 Baghdad DHL attempted shootdown incident on Wikipedia.

[LegionarioCruel]

@hostrauer - Was it also missing a tail fin?

[hostrauer]

@LegionarioCruel No, but it was missing nearly half of one wing due to the missile strike.

[Handiman544]

Multiply this bad repair hundreds and hundreds of times on hundreds of airplanes worldwide. It all boils down to human error. Had the repair been done correctly, this would not have happened. Why do we have standards if people continue to ignore them time and time again.  Humans cause their own misery. I don't fly because I simply do not trust the statements made by the people who insist we are safe...period.

[Handiman544]

Multiply this bad repair hundreds and hundreds of times on hundreds of airplanes worldwide. It all boils down to human error. Had the repair been done correctly, this would not have happened. Why do we have standards if people continue to ignore them time and time again. Humans cause their own misery.

[irishgeal1]

so boeing got away with corperate murder, disgusting.

[geofreyr]

My goodness, you just couldn't live with yourself if you had done the repair eh

[Mechamortal]

Wow the Japanese rescue team camps out at a village because they expect not to find any survivors. Keyword: EXPECT. Stupid-ass logic right there. Turns out there were many.

[MillyVanillification]

Crap handcraft in conjunction with single points of failures in the airplanes hydraulic design.

[dbritton41]

6:59 is that really f'cking necessary?? RIP JAL 123!!!

[hidayah20101]

the moral of this incident..make sure you do your job at your best..no corruption..no selfish..

[6gu7]

This is not a mistake, this is called 'making money'.

[Sitti2300]

Why some people here want to point their fingers only at Japan. This terrible accident or "murder" were caused by two countries. One - horrible repair job done by Boeing mechanic. And this won't be the last. 2- Rescue delay caused by Japanese bureaucrats.

I feel so sorry for Jal manager that took his own life. This was not his fault at all.

[FallenPaladin85]

Japan has a bad reputation for not rescuing people on time, more than 4 people could have survived if they went there and begin the rescue right away.

[AndrossKenobi]

I'm sorry, but the Boeing 747, the DC-10, there are many crashes that were caused by the aircraft losing hydraulic pressure in all lines, and none of them learned from it!

You have separate redundant lines running to the tail as from the wings! having 4 pipes all sitting together is useless, if 1 of them gets broken there's a good chance that all of them do, at least if they'd had totally separate lines they would have been able to control everything bar the rudder.

[noname2useable]

the pilots skill helped to keep the plane in the air for more than 1/2 an hour which gave the passengers 1/2 an hour to live, think about their lives, write letters to their loved ones and at least the would know clearly, how they died. instead of jus being killed in an instant and die without even knowing why

[nodevoutt]

all the families of the survivors should sue boeing for their faulty repairs, or japan airlines should. the mechanic himself should be put to death for killing hundreds of people RIP

[theWall0719]

@nodevoutt: yes, that's it, let's take another life. I am glad that you are not in a position of power.

[ashahid01]

This is similar to the china airlines crash

[levygonz]

@ashahid01 no its ua-232 (crash in sioux city) search it

[raulox71]

The most accidents of a 747 was human errors.

[specnaz1977]

for those boeing (ora JAL) responsible: 520 negligent homicides = each 1 year in prison => 520 years / each

[Darksoul4345]

520 died 4 survived



[DarkKabuto]

criminal charges to boeing?! they should place criminal charges to those "rescuers" who were sleeping when the survivors were dying!

[raulox71]

@DarkKabuto I agree.

[m4siTa]

R.I.P for all those who were lost. The pilots have given their best.

[OkjN40]

The police officers, doctors, dentists and nurses that necropsied the victims of JAL 123 couldn't help crying for those poor people.

Some of them cried with the bereaved family at the dead body's identification.

They al l did best to identify the bodies for the bereaved families and for the victims.[

and unfortunalely , one doctor died for overwork and PTSD.

[OkjN40]

The police officers, doctors, dentists and nurses that necropsied the victims of JAL 123 couldn't help crying for those poor people.

Some of them cried with the bereaved family at the dead body's identification.

They al l did best to identify the bodies for the bereaved families and for the victims.

and unfortunalely , one doctor died for overwork and PTSD.

[xtremejt86]

RIP passengers of JA flight 123

[foopy6]

JAL is pathetic.

[duanedragon2]

Heroic effort by the pilots.

[nuwaus]

Watch here for real CVR

watch?v=Xfh9-ogUgSQ

[randkprouductions]

what happened to the guy that had to go to the toilet?

:p

[Serithe]

@randkprouductions I bet he died thinking he caused the crash!

[1chai]

if there was a fighter jet pilot told the JA 123 pilots that the tail was missing,could JA 123 be flown longer than 30 mins? nevertheless 30 mins is already the best record.

[Lauvreede3003]

@1chai a 30 minute record is nothing if 4 out of over 200 people survived the crash. if everyone had survived it would have been a record

[homoplayer]

get why you should not be slack at work now?

[RoyalRed0926]

i dont get why they had to add those unnecessary asian accents into the actors/actresses.

[JPN850R]

@RoyalRed0926

I do not believe they had intentionally added Asian accents. The air traffic controller has a classic example of Japanese people's accents when they speak English, but other people have different accents I cannot recognise. Their facial characteristics also impart that they are not Japanese; the flight crew (especially the F/O sitting in the captain's seat) and half the passengers in this film, I believe, were not Japanese. This film has several flaws as well.

[uareri27]

wow, probably a reason why ANA works really well while JAL is in deficit!

It's really sad.. Life is really precious..

[bodyhold1]

The Titanic in the air.

[patko1610]

@bodyhold1 yep

[foopy6]

@bodyhold1 Yep......

[johnclansang09]

@bodyhold1 yeah the titanic aircraft version

[Laudan08]

@bodyhold1 If you're talking to losses, look at the MV Wilhelm Gustloff.

[jman280292]

@bodyhold1 ill second that. But i also think that the Tenerife air disaster is the Titanic on the ground

[nocturn333]

even if it was blown off, it could still been saved if the hydralics is intact. i dont see why they cant place some valves into those pipes, or have some back up lines that dont go into the tail.

[x0n1c64]

A piece of trivia: The last 36 seconds of the flight recorder from this crash was included as a hidden pregap track on Rammstein's 2004 album, "Reise, Reise".

[Angus1966]

Stick the 747. The whole intergrity of the Aircraft depends on two rows of crapy rivets ?. Looks like are safety is compromised to maximize profits for share holders and Airlines. Come on , thats on the cheap. Life has no price..... There should be no expense spared.

[ViennasNachos]

Life has a price

1 life = 3 million US Dollars for most airlines

[Vikkoman]

In terms of PR and brand value it is much less expensive for an airline to have proper maintenance.

Also an airline has to pay more money if willful misconduct is proven. Pan Am was convicted of willful misconduct after the Pan Am 103 incident, so the relatives received more money than they would have if Pan Am gave the regular payments.

[Vikkoman]

Angus, your response misses the point of the accident report. The Boeing engineer placed ONE row of rivets instead of the required two. The bulkhead failed because there was only one row. The one row received more stress than it would if the second row was in.

Having two rows of rivets is perfectly acceptable and safe.

There were *no* design faults in the B747 revealed by the JAL123 incident. More or less the incident was caused by a maintenance error.

[pyrosheen]

FAIL.

SO many people could have been saved!

[vitasoy1437]

great productions.... have been watching quite a few of these programs.... feel sad that many of them are human errors..... like this one...... sloppy repair by boeing........ and there's another 1 abt the swiss air crash in 1998.... caused by overheat of the circuit......... sigh..... no matter how smart people are.... many accidents are caused by our own selves...

[longballsteeve]

Poor maintenance by Boeing machinists. Very sad.

[sadiamel]

Very good flight crew. Struggled with this huge plane in terrain for total 30 min. Others could kept the plane airborne for max. less than 10 min.

[PopeyeCove]

Who maintains these planes... McDonald's employees? Incompetent.

[Vikkoman]

Past tense, Popeye. This incident took place in 1985.

[buddyboy68]

People will always say mistakes will happen,but these sort of mistakes should NEVER happen simple.

[HimikoHimeX]

i think it was in the episode before his one, there is a autopilot now that can land a plane with lost hydraulic. but they say that happens not often enough to make it standart on planes.

[Vikkoman]

Pilots learned how to control aircraft without hydraulics - i.e. the DHL landing in Baghdad

[davidng07]

not true. Pilots were never trained to handle a plane without hydraulics. The DHL pilots landed because they were lucky, not because they were trained.

[Caksman1027]

lucky and used trial and error. Also they had a very flat landscape to work with. Other then losing hydraulics...they had everything else, working in their favor..but still..an amazing feat of flying

[BlueButterfly7777]

May all those who suffered and perished RIP.

[CottonBelter]

Interesting. I took my videos down because I quit aStar. However I am going to create shorts in a series called Lunch Table which I am beginning preparation work on right now.