Clariperu/ Sabine Meyer performs Poulenc clarinet sonata

[TedALane]

Not perfect but certainly the best performance on uTube as of May 14, 2011.

Wonderful musicianship. Beautiful sound.

I always wonder why women dress so uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable to watch. Ted ( a very big fan of Sabine)

[Tarcila62078]

perfection(: shes plays a fritz wurlitzer clarinet right??

[HaraldReinhart]

@Tarcila62078

I think it's a Herbert Wurltzer clarinet but am not sure...

[gozhn]

Top notch

[marielette86]

Pense q la interpretacion de Sabine de esta pieza iba a ser mas "tiesa";  menos sexy y me parecio perfecta!

[schnitzngigglez]

Is it me or is this too fast? Regardless, she's an amazing musician.

[drewbsn87]

pianist is wonderful, what is his name?

[DeliGemisi]

@drewbsn87 The pianist is Fazil Say

[PuffsPlusWithLotion]

what all is going on here? what was Sabine voted out of? (I hate to sound so naive, but a polite response would be appreciated).

[nagyjozsefrozi]

fantastico

[tiffany7898]

Too fast tempo.

 but i like that way she interpretative performance.

[Televisionymusica]

She's awesome. I'm her fan.

[DaJuanEvan]

wow, you guys are very heated. =) well i believe it was due to her gender. They needed an excuse to why they kicked her out so they used that. But to me i think she sounds amazing. Her musicality is phenominal, and i love the way she makes clarinet literature come alive. She is amazing and no matter what shes the best. And Leblancs are not as bad as ppl make them seem. If Julian Bliss and Sebine Meyer and Anthony Mcgill then dang they must work somehow. I love sebine espcially on the spohr no.4

[y1g1tcn]

Name of the pianist is Fazıl Say. He is a turkish pianist and composer. just type on youtube ..

[burro205]

she´s a perfect woman playing the clarinet i love play the clarinet i love her

[Obaysch]

I'm terrified the pianist is going to fall his imaginary merry-go-round.

[ipmoic]

The opening of this movement is marked pp. Ms. Meyer is a superb artist, but one would wish for a larger dynamic range.

[gebbie23]

Everyone has their own opinion of what clarinet playing should be. I happen to enjoy Sabine Meyer's playing. That being said I also enjoy Paul Meyer, Karl Leister, Harold Wright, Daniel Bonade, Larry Combs and Seunghee Lee to name a few. All of which have their own musical concepts. The German tradition of clarinet playing is different from the French or American tradition of clarinet playing, but that is all it is...different...not right or wrong.

[longhov]

beautiful

[RonPaulCuredMiapathy]

The observer is allowed to have an observation without regards to their own playing ability, folks. The spirit of being a musician, especially a professional one, is playing to an audience. If the audience doesn't like it, so be it. There is not need for an inquiry into the audience's capacity to do the same.

[mistermi1]

love this version. very soft and calm. this is the right movement for her. i'd like to hear her playing the other movements.

and if you don't watch the video, you just have to like this version

[klassyklarinet]

my comment is a response to bonniebitch's comment

[wertyuioland]

ahaha... corny movements.... looks so computer generated at the beginning... I'm sorry, but Martin Frost with his FRENCH system is better:)

[sutphoe]

bah! I agree Martin Frost is good, but of the German-system-player Sabine has to be the best.Never mind Leister or Fuchs.

[Zeantropo]

- FIRST: I dont want to read more critics about "continuous movements" from videos with people playing chamber music, its so SILLY to watch them as negative, ALEXANDER followers GO TO THE HELL PLEASE (or post videos, i want to laugh for a while)

- Second: I dont like this version of poulenc, but it is enough professional for me, and I admire the quality of playing correctly when you dont have a good day...

I would lik that anyone post a video rsponse of that mvemnt which better qualities.

[BonnieBitch]

Oops! Anyone else notice she almost didn't make it to the high G?

Ok, so except for lack of any dynamic less than mf, that pinched sound, the sharp E above the break every frackin' time she played it, the screechy notes above high C, the tempo being too fast, the style too Brahms-ish, the Doppler effect from her "Stirring the Cauldron" dance moves, and her pianist beating the crap out the keys -- it was a fine performance. She can now drop it from her repertoire.

[klassyklarinet]

honestly this comment makes u sound like an uneducated person. pinched sound, sharp E? buddy what did u do? sit there with a tuner and figure out which notes she was out of tune on just to make yourself feel that much better because u couldnt have done a better job? despite what people have told you, no performance is ever going to be perfect. and so what if she moves when she plays? sabine meyer is better known than you who can only falsely criticise professional musicians.

[BonnieBitch]

And your misspelled nym does what for you, exactly? She doesn't just "move" when she plays. She's got choreography, which is a visual distraction. And it distorts the sound. I pity you for being too deaf to hear consitent out of tune notes. Perhaps you should worry about your own "false criticisms" {sic}, despite the lies you've been told about your own "abilities."

[BonnieBitch]

No loss at all. I own recordings by Kell, Stoltzman, Collins, Campbell, Johnson, etc.

And I agree with you: If the "aural aspect" isn't good enough, then the performer is certainly within her rights to add a superfluous visual component for distraction. After all, as Charlie Delaney used to say: "If you can't be good, at least be entertaining."

[JonRobcl2]

She's one of the best know female clarinetist alive.... so she seems to be doing something right, such as recording CD's, being the first woman to win a job with the Berlin Phil, and being the former teacher of Julian Bliss who is 20 years old and has his own line of clarinets coming out which will be produced by leblanc in the near future... again she's doing something right.

[BonnieBitch]

Ok, Jon, so she's one of "the best know {sic} ***female*** clarinetists alive..." How come no one's jumping on you for being sexist?

And she's turned out **one** "great student." Wonderful. How many more have Kowalski, Combs, Yeh, Smith, Ormand, Morales, Drucker, and Lurie _each_ turned out? According to your comment, it's all about numbers. And anyone who hawks Leblanc clarinets is doing it for the money. The instruments suck. They're resistant like concrete. JB should be ashamed.

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch You've got a lot of nerve... She's turned out one student that any teacher would die to have in Julian Bliss... none of the teachers you have mentioned even had one student as good as Julian Bliss! The only two real great teachers you even mentioned were Ormand and Lurie, but even they don't have a Julian Bliss! Yeh, Smith, Morales, and Drucker are certainly not producing students like Julian Bliss (Drucker hasn't taught in 10 years, and Morales barely does).

[BonnieBitch]

@bene -- Bliss got lucky and he has a gimmick -- the 'child prodigy' thing. Good for him. Still doesn't make Meyer a good teacher, and it still does not downplay the output or pedagogical acumen of any of the aforementioned 'name players.' Can you even name the successful students of those 'name players' w/out using Google? Yeah, I thought not.

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch Actually, I very easily can name many of their students. I have actually met almost all of those teachers you mentioned and I have also met a few of their "successful students". Being that I am a clarinet player, I know of, through the clarinet community, many of their students. Your incredible cockiness is very disappointing. And because you are so informed, you would know Sabine's current students are winning competitions left and right. But you probably knew that already, right?

[BonnieBitch]

@Bene -- and of course your predictable, obtuse response, replete with a personal attack, so typical of the clarinetist mindset... now go substitute "Kowalski" for "Sabine," and you get the same result, but with better playing. So why do you automatically equate fame with good?

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch Sorry, but you started the personal attacks. Both Sabine and Julian are incredibly talented clarinet players, that's why they are famous. And what is with you with Kowalski? Fine teacher, doesn't rank with any of the greatest. And your list of great teachers is a bizarre mix of great teachers and great players who aren't great teachers. Where is Yehuda Gilad on that? Don Montanaro? Leon Russianoff? Stanley Hasty? Morales kind of gives away your not knowing who the "greats" are...

[BonnieBitch]

@ bene -- I have attacked no one. Why do you need to lie and asperse to make your points? All I did was have the cajones to say "I don't like Sabine Meyer's playing" and then state concrete reasons why. Your peurile opinion of an off-the-cuff list is also duly noted and rejected, thanks anyway. Again, not a personal attack on you to label your opinion as a worthless aspersion.

[bene951]

and how could I forget... Robert Marcellus, Daniel Bonade, David Weber... I don't know how you can compile a list of teachers and leave these guys off and put on some of the guys you put... they are all fine players, but doesn't make them amongst the greatest teachers...

[BonnieBitch]

@ bene -- ditto for your hero Sabine. Now, do you have anything besides my not dropping to the right names to appease you for an objection?

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch My oh my, your attitude is your problem. And look at that twisting of what you did: "I don't like... concrete reasons why." And you did it in such a mature way! The whole "woops, look at how bad Sabine Meyer, the former principal clarinet of the Berlin Phil and international soloist!" rubs off as a little pretentious, wouldn't you say? And you are so right about Leblancs. They are SO BAD that nobody used them! Oh wait...

[BonnieBitch]

@ bene -- your projection does not suit the level of discussion to which you aspire. The only twisting occuring is in the responses to my posts. However -- your sarcasm about Leblancs does belie an underlying "one-size-fits-all" concept of clarinet pedagogy. I find that sad... again, still not making personal attacks. You, OTOH....

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch Hmmm... well your blanket statement that Leblancs are terrible is pretty immature. I play Buffets, but I'd say with players like Anthony McGill, Larry Combs, Dave Shifrin, Carey Bell, Richard Hawkins, and Eddie Daniels playing them is a pretty good indicator that for some people they work pretty darn well...

[BonnieBitch]

@ bene -- BTW, Sabine was FIRED from the Berliner Philharmoniker after a 7 month stint because of her {allegedly} poor tone quality. Surprised you missed that little detail, what with you having your pretentious little finger on the pulse of the "clarinet community" and whatnot....

IMO, I think the dismissal was a bad move, as her tone is **very** focused, enough to project over an orchestra effortlessly yet still blend in. Do you have anything else to discuss besides personal invective?

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch Come on now... the least you could do before trying to make an argument and then accusing me of "missing that little detail" would be to get the story straight! I don't think anyone disputes that she was kicked out because of any reason but her gender. She was the first female and other players reputedly would move their chairs away from her during rehearsal. Karajan was extremely upset by her being voted out. I'd say winning the position in the first place says something...

[BonnieBitch]

@bene -- nope, sorry, the official reason was her sound, as voted upon by her colleagues. You obv. missed the part where I said it was a mistake, and that her sound lends itself to orchestral playing. So, got anything besides personal attack, invective, and selective miscopmprehension?

[bene951]

@BonnieBitch I'm completely aware that the "official" reason was her "tone", but you can't be so naive to believe that that is in fact why she was voted out. It was because she was female.

[ecgtrombone]

No! they didn't want women at that time! They used tone as an excuse... sorry, I don't mean to sound angry but I from this region

[clarinetgeek7299]

wait im confused..the berlin phil isnt all male is it?

[Harle4]

I think i would rather have someone move like crazy and truly create music instead of just standing there like a rock and just play notes and not evoke any emotion at all. I suggest you stop 'attacking' other users on here and let them have their opinions. It is okay to state your opinion on certain matters, but attacking them for their opinions is unacceptable.

[BonnieBitch]

I've attacked no one. Why do you need to lie? As for movement while playing -- no one except you is suggesting that movement is an "either-or" proposition -- either extreme and distracting, as with Sabine, or none at all. That would be the rumination of a puerile mind, as is your clear, unambiguous assertion that distracting, unnecessary movement creates music. Movement is visual. Music is aural. Please learn the difference before disingenuously complaining again.

[Harle4]

It is really unnecessary to call me a liar. You did attack people verbally by assuming that their views on this are basically wrong and invalid. Maybe that's not what you were trying to convey, but either way you might watch your countenance. Now for movement while playing: I don't know how much you know about wind instruments, the clarinet in particular, but movement while playing does help with articulation, phrasing, and dynamic contrasts. Music is aural, its creation however is not.

[BonnieBitch]

Well, then, by your own logic, your assumption that my views are "basically wrong and invalid" constitute a personal attack, thus rendering your opinion hypocritical. Now - Movement while playing a wind inst. is an unnecessary visual distraction which distorts the sound via the Doppler Effect. The internal activities of creating music on a wind inst. are actually impeded by excessive external motion, regardless of what your overpriced "body mapping" charlatan has conned you into believing.

[Harle4]

I have never said that anyone's views here are invalid. If I may ask, where do you get your information from? Some of your provided information does seem a little curious.

[BonnieBitch]

You didn't have to. Your disagreement and your personal attack told me all I needed to know. If you believed my views had merit, you would not be so dismissive. Now, how could it possibly be "curious" that the Doppler affect is created when a sound source is moved? That's what the DE is. If you need to find that "curious," then feel free.

[Harle4]

You know, it's funny how whenever I criticize something general about what you said, you take it that I meant one very specific aspect of what you said. And since you're so keen about using *my* definitions of certain things, you might want to check what I said about "personal attacks". And respecting someone's view has nothing to do with them having merit.

[BonnieBitch]

Admittedly, you can't be specific, and it's somehow my fault? Bored now, so let's move on to the epitome of intellectual irresponsibility -- the post-modernist crap that all ideas not only be equal but also respected. Not gonna happen. So, do you wish to discuss further that "curious" Doppler effect or that excessive external body motion affects internal muscular response, thereby inhibiting phrasing, articulation, etc.? No? Oh, well...

[Harle4]

Good call, I was getting a little weary, too. Unless you can point out a specific point in this video (i.e. give me a minute and second marking) I'd say this 'argument' is debated to death. Always a pleasure.

[BonnieBitch]

Already did. Do try to keep up next time.

[Harle4]

I don't want to call you a liar now, but apparently I am a little silly at the moment and can't seem to find the place where you said anything about where exactly a "Doppler effect" can be found. Do try to just tell instead of assuming everyone is as bright as you.

[mozartisgodly]

Your argument regarding the Doppler Effect is completely invalid. While it is true that motion will create the aural illusion of higher or lower frequencies, Meyer's relatively small movement would produce a negligible effect on frequency. Also, her movement is largely side to side, not front to back, rendering the Doppler Effect completely null. I must commend you, however, on your potent trolling abilities.

[ClarinetistJuan]

I've never really heard any difference. Be stiff as a robot, and make the sounds of a robot. Be human, make mistakes, but at least make music.

[BonnieBitch]

So, by your logic -- the more one moves about, the more musically one plays. The less one moves about while playing, the more robotic and less human one is. Oy and vey! Will the concept of music as an aural event *ever* take hold?

[jmarquar]

@BonnieBitch you need to lay off of the crack.

[ktbee2015]

its like they are dancing in a way, its hailarious the way both move around.

[rilasciando1]

zu schnell, zu agrresiv und nicht 'ruhig'. Das ist ein schlecht Durchfuerung von professionell Musikeren.

[filipnarada]

all those critics obove...?

this video shows simply top quality musicians!!

outstanding

[victorclarinete]

PAILA, QUE HORROR DE SONIDO

[MasterMangi]

Both of them are making very funny moves =)

[ma77goon]

who is the jerk on the piano? (stranges moves)

i do not like Sabine Meyer she is just good, because of her parents which gave her the best education,

but i agree with klarinetta, i think this performance is to agressive

on the top of this piece you can read très calme, but i think she did not play calmly!

[Tech502]

To become good to the point of Sabine Meyer, she didn't just have good education, she was born with the natural talent to play clarinet.

[ma77goon]

no I can't go with that.

I'm from Germany and I am convinced that money made she what she is now

[klarinetta]

Sorry but I think I've never heard as bad performance of that movement by any professional clarinetist.

[Zeantropo]

"i have never heard as bad performance by any professional clarinetist" . It is false :D you know :D.

[Anezka89]

Simplemente increible

[oldjarhead]

The pianist has some nutty moves! Maybe he's trying to match Sabine's habitual stage dancing!

[annemuis]

Love this piece. A little fast for me personally.

Pianist moves quite strange..

[Izco19]

No la toca nada mal, pero he de decir que no me termina de convencer. Incluso me gusta mas la interpretación del pianista que la de ella. A pesar de esto, Sabine me parace extraordinaria y me encanta como toca muchas otras obras.

[magicclarinet]

Estoy de acuerdo,el pianista se llama FAZIL SAY, y al menos en éste segundo movimiento derrocha sensibilidad, teniendo muy mucho que ver con el resultado.- Sabine, como siempre que toca cámara, magnífica.- Negativo para Clariperú, no sólo por no identificar al pianista, sino por copiarle el video de su portal.-