Thats definitely not Josh, thats Corey...the blonde guy is Josh. lol. I was there, and it was epic....too bad Norma Jean will never be good at music again...
@mau571 this video doesn't do him justice. Every time I've seen the Chariot, Josh Scogin has been amazing. I recommend you check out more videos of him to get a better opinion. :) Check out their new video, "David De La Hoz."
truth is norma jean is a good band so quit bein a doucher and listen to the music and not just the vocals you n00b besides neither of them are "amazing" vocalists, they both are just amazing at their stage performances.
(in my opinion the chariot is better, but i dont really love either one of them)
They're still Norma Jean. Since they were Luti-Kriss, they've still been putting out the same messages but with different sounds. Dude I hateddddd the new CD, then I gave it a chance and kept playing it untill I was absolutely amazed. Give it shot
nah dude. i know what your saying but (mid's voicy screams)are his style but if you listen to lutikriss which was pre norma jean he sings pretty flippin' high and in song songs like "And then, came then" he growls just as low as any death metal/core band does.
loved it (lutikriss) thankyou for showing me. ur right he does pretty much rule the metalcore and hardcore genres lol duid care for his highs though still but i like deathmetal/core screamers so my taste is just different
yeh i used to love just deathcore vocals but im realy into voicy ones now like the ghost inside and with blood comes cleansing and stuff. you probs know those but look em up if you dont.
haha yea, the guy in WBCC kills!!!!!!!!!!!! saw them at corner stone, nah in my opinion the best screamer would be tim from rose funeral or (idc if their mainstream lol) mitch from suicide silence for them godly lows lol.
im freakin stuck on lutikriss now lol. my fav band is Deftones so naturally i love the way lutikriss sounds lol
this video sucks, norma jean sucks, the chariot sucks, me without you sucks, youtube sucks, nomorekingz sucks, truthbetold sucks. Fuck everyone, listen to cephalotripsy
i wish you would just shut the fuck up and learn to appreciate the band for who they fucking are.
just because they got a new singer doesn't mean they're not good so shut your fucking mouth or i'll come over there and shut it for you.
i'm fucking sick and tired of people critizing the fucking band just because josh left. if you're that much of an asshole, go listen to the fucking chariot.
norma jean is still good and you need to fucking learn how to open up to new things.
yes i did.. and have you even watched any of his live performances.. not only does he butcher all of the songs that josh scogin made he didnt do a single thing for that band.. maybe listen to how terrible he is first.. and its not even him.. you are so smart tho.. im glad you know your music
yes i know what band he is in and its kind of a very minor singing part in the song... and corey didnt absolutely ruin them they still put out some good songs with him like on oh god the aftermath. it is still a good cd.. the newest one they shouldnt of had chino moreno from the deftones help them out cuz some of their songs on the antimother sound way too much like the deftones.. which is not something that is to my liking
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i dont believe its considered whining.. but mewithout you sucks.. the guy is a terrible get used to it.. im saying that josh is better like everyone knows but corey did a good job until chino changed nj... and they decided to sing.. get some sort of musical backround in your life so you can start making smart decisions on the music you listen to.. thats all no more
wait a minute. Are you seriously telling me what music to listen to? "so you can start making smart decisions on the music you listen to" Eat a dick man. an opinion is an opinion. I'll listen to what i want. I dont really care what you think of mewithoutYou. I love them and that's my opinion, you hate them and thats yours. But don't fucking tell me what to listen to.
really, memphis will be laid to waste is one of the easiest songs to play by norma jean. If you want to talk about MUSICAL genius, check out anything off of O' God The Aftermath.
i was there, and i just want to say: all those fools just standing there at this point in time, just need to go home. to be there and not get the least bit excited about this...yeah, just go home
captinpaul is an idiot.... norma jean is freakin awesome. you dont have a crowd that big for a band who cant make melody/harmony or lack phrasing. its just a new kind of music that actually is incredbile. whats your international hit band again captainpaul?
josh cracks me up hes this fat white guy in a flanel shirt running around and hamging from tha rafters( not in this video but) like when he played at the attic with the charoit
between the buried and me are good but were you at radio rebellion were they opened for norma jean ... they just kinda faded into the background of norma jeans greatness and that wasnt even norma jean with josh!!!
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In which way is Norma Jean a good group of musicians?
There's no melody or harmony. There's a severe lack of phrasing. The overall tone is rubbish (and I've never said that about drums before). Even the show itself is pissy.
There's nothing convincing me to say that this band has any talent. I've heard Noise Music more tactful that these dorks.
Id like to point out the immense breakdown of this song and the intro riff, where the crowd starts clapping, in both there is a clear display of melody, harmony and phrasing.
What this group of musicians create is pleasing to the ears.
Its a tight performance. Baring in mind the sound quality is not the best its still good.
Question: what's wrong with the overall tone/drums?
I don't think you understand music very well. There's a melody in every song, no matter what song it is. That's what a song is. Maybe it's not very complex, or you just don't like it, but it's still there. Norma Jean isn't the most complex band out there, but they're still entertaining and good musicians. Tone doesn't make anyone better or worse. And this show, and all Norma Jean shows I've been to or seen in video are amazing, they have so much energy, and it's fun to listen to and move to.
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ask any respected guitarist what the most important part of playing is. They'll tell you tone, every time. So yeah, it is an important part of the show.
I'm also confident in my experience with music. It's what I've been doing and living since fifth grade - ~10 years.
And I don't literally mean there isn't a melody. I know there's a melody in any piece of music, that'd be insulting to say. What I mean is that the melody here is garbage. Listen to Battles, they have talent.
The most important part of playing is not tone, ask any real guitarist.
And it's your opinion that the melody is garbage, but in my opinion, it is great. And it's more than just a melody that makes a song. I'm a bassist, and I play all kinda of music, and I almost never play a melody, I play a rhythm usually. That's incredibly important too, so by focusing on melody, you're disrespecting all drummers and bassists and other rhythm section instruments. You fail.
unless he is refering to monophony, which just involves melody, he has a point though, in a normal homophonic song melody is supported by the rhythm and really is the centre focus in the piece of music any musician should know this and basically music isn't music without general direction, in other words you would listen to a backing track of a pop song because it would sound like repetitious garbage.
its souther hardcore (maybe not in the beginning. but as they got older) but tahts the style of music. lets think of bands like throwdown or terror, yeah they're super hardcore and the music gets you going like nothing else, but old jean stuff isnt really intended to be melodic moron.
Fuck Yeah
PoHakk 3 weeks ago
Thats definitely not Josh, thats Corey...the blonde guy is Josh. lol. I was there, and it was epic....too bad Norma Jean will never be good at music again...
CTI1213 1 year ago 2
Josh Scogin will amaze me forever. He's my hero fo sho.
svenislegend 1 year ago
this is EPIC
aarontrack4u 1 year ago 2
the blond guy can't scream at all
mau571 1 year ago
@mau571 this video doesn't do him justice. Every time I've seen the Chariot, Josh Scogin has been amazing. I recommend you check out more videos of him to get a better opinion. :) Check out their new video, "David De La Hoz."
WWIIonRS 1 year ago 7
@mau571 funny because he wrote this song
sooperkid321 1 year ago
@mau571 dude the blonde guy is Josh Scogin and he's flippin amazing when he screams
KendallPolson 8 months ago
so fukin jealous of everyone at this show.
phradyjai 1 year ago
Aaron Weiss gives me goosebumps everytime
aslknpolishdMESS 2 years ago 23
@aslknpolishdMESS LOLZ! i got goose bumps too when he came on stage!!
SpaceJourney5 6 months ago
did anyone else hear "moderate rock" from nirvana in the beginning right before the songs stars?
nacho3rdbowler 2 years ago 6
@nacho3rdbowler yeah, not surprised, its the new norma jean
hollyhole 2 years ago
@nacho3rdbowler I did! i love nirvana!
thecircle12345 1 year ago
2:36 <3 :]
nathannintendo 2 years ago
you know this shit was cool
phillipjacowski 3 years ago 2
truth is norma jean is a good band so quit bein a doucher and listen to the music and not just the vocals you n00b besides neither of them are "amazing" vocalists, they both are just amazing at their stage performances.
(in my opinion the chariot is better, but i dont really love either one of them)
TrailerTrashThorne 3 years ago
theyre madd good. but their no where near the same with out scogin...i hate the new cd too. it sucks so much
SlipknotMaggot128 2 years ago
They're still Norma Jean. Since they were Luti-Kriss, they've still been putting out the same messages but with different sounds. Dude I hateddddd the new CD, then I gave it a chance and kept playing it untill I was absolutely amazed. Give it shot
hakah1717 2 years ago
josh scogin is the best vocalist in any hardcore/metal band. id say he is pretty amazing.
hazzaattack 2 years ago 2
alot of people say that and i agree if u mean as a hardcore vocalist but, metal nah he doesnt have like any range
TrailerTrashThorne 2 years ago
nah dude. i know what your saying but (mid's voicy screams)are his style but if you listen to lutikriss which was pre norma jean he sings pretty flippin' high and in song songs like "And then, came then" he growls just as low as any death metal/core band does.
hazzaattack 2 years ago
loved it (lutikriss) thankyou for showing me. ur right he does pretty much rule the metalcore and hardcore genres lol duid care for his highs though still but i like deathmetal/core screamers so my taste is just different
TrailerTrashThorne 2 years ago
yeh i used to love just deathcore vocals but im realy into voicy ones now like the ghost inside and with blood comes cleansing and stuff. you probs know those but look em up if you dont.
hazzaattack 2 years ago
haha yea, the guy in WBCC kills!!!!!!!!!!!! saw them at corner stone, nah in my opinion the best screamer would be tim from rose funeral or (idc if their mainstream lol) mitch from suicide silence for them godly lows lol.
im freakin stuck on lutikriss now lol. my fav band is Deftones so naturally i love the way lutikriss sounds lol
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this video sucks, norma jean sucks, the chariot sucks, me without you sucks, youtube sucks, nomorekingz sucks, truthbetold sucks. Fuck everyone, listen to cephalotripsy
mymymymarski 3 years ago
stupid troll... stop posing as a death metal fan. no real fans tell people about their favorite bands.
for more information, consult "wolves in the throne room".
i have no problem with saying that band because i dont like them, but any real fans will never talk about them for fear of them becoming mainstream.
MattMakesDrugs 3 years ago
i wish you would just shut the fuck up and learn to appreciate the band for who they fucking are.
just because they got a new singer doesn't mean they're not good so shut your fucking mouth or i'll come over there and shut it for you.
i'm fucking sick and tired of people critizing the fucking band just because josh left. if you're that much of an asshole, go listen to the fucking chariot.
norma jean is still good and you need to fucking learn how to open up to new things.
...i'll kill you.
nomorekingz 3 years ago
yeh seriously who gives a fuck ...hes gone..go listen to the chariot..
i prefer new norma jean way more..
dont fight with people who still like the band we didnt make josh leave
mitchneegah 2 years ago
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do you guys realize weiss is terrible and its not even him its corey putman the new singer with josh scogin
allentirrel 3 years ago
Did you seriously call weiss terrible? I wish i could beat the shit out of you right now.
TruthBeToldIL 3 years ago
yes i did.. and have you even watched any of his live performances.. not only does he butcher all of the songs that josh scogin made he didnt do a single thing for that band.. maybe listen to how terrible he is first.. and its not even him.. you are so smart tho.. im glad you know your music
allentirrel 3 years ago
You do realize that Aaron weiss is the singer of mewithoutYou. He's featured at the end of this song. I agree corey ruined NJ, but weiss is the man.
TruthBeToldIL 3 years ago 2
yes i know what band he is in and its kind of a very minor singing part in the song... and corey didnt absolutely ruin them they still put out some good songs with him like on oh god the aftermath. it is still a good cd.. the newest one they shouldnt of had chino moreno from the deftones help them out cuz some of their songs on the antimother sound way too much like the deftones.. which is not something that is to my liking
allentirrel 3 years ago
so what the hell are you whining about then?
TruthBeToldIL 3 years ago
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i dont believe its considered whining.. but mewithout you sucks.. the guy is a terrible get used to it.. im saying that josh is better like everyone knows but corey did a good job until chino changed nj... and they decided to sing.. get some sort of musical backround in your life so you can start making smart decisions on the music you listen to.. thats all no more
allentirrel 3 years ago
wait a minute. Are you seriously telling me what music to listen to? "so you can start making smart decisions on the music you listen to" Eat a dick man. an opinion is an opinion. I'll listen to what i want. I dont really care what you think of mewithoutYou. I love them and that's my opinion, you hate them and thats yours. But don't fucking tell me what to listen to.
TruthBeToldIL 3 years ago
i dont think i told you what to listen to at all.. was there any band in there that i recommended to you? are you even reading what i wrote?
allentirrel 3 years ago
"get some sort of musical backround in your life so you can start making smart decisions on the music you listen to"
TruthBeToldIL 3 years ago 2
dunno. both bands rock in my opinion.
DunderMifflinBand 3 years ago 6
sounds like a cat fight,
both you wussees should get lives
instead of fighting over a video website
girlslovebacon 3 years ago 11
amen!
analogic9009 2 years ago
scogin is the man through and through!
gregtheinfinite 3 years ago
3:58
Greatest part.
girlslovebacon 3 years ago
this is the best live video i have ever seen. Weiss is beast.
ukilledkenny7 3 years ago
Norma Jean new CD is nothing to get exited about but anything before that is aws.
emoleprechaun05 3 years ago
At first, when they started singing the last part of the song, I thought it was KC Wolf of the Chariot. XD
I'm sure I'm not the only one, now.
RedeemerRed 3 years ago
man, i wish norma jean was as good as they used to be.
CruJones2112 3 years ago
was this at the cornerstone festival?
benOverboard 3 years ago
yeppers
keepthebills 3 years ago
having aaron Josh and cory in the same room sounds like heaven to me
BumaDum990 3 years ago
this video is so powerful dude..
it gives me chills on my spine
sleepwalkingfall 3 years ago
Can't wait for their next album.
BuyITxLoadITxShootIT 3 years ago
me too man, im counting down the days till august 5th
iRock150s 3 years ago
really, memphis will be laid to waste is one of the easiest songs to play by norma jean. If you want to talk about MUSICAL genius, check out anything off of O' God The Aftermath.
dylanvald 3 years ago
I don't know about musical genius or difficult...but it's a good CD.
Envee211 3 years ago
i was there, and i just want to say: all those fools just standing there at this point in time, just need to go home. to be there and not get the least bit excited about this...yeah, just go home
ipseadamovos 4 years ago
aaron right there! :)
searchformulder 4 years ago
That captainpaul dude must know nothing. You try writing something that musically epic with lyrics that amazing, dumbass.
AdamBurnsRed 4 years ago
captinpaul is an idiot.... norma jean is freakin awesome. you dont have a crowd that big for a band who cant make melody/harmony or lack phrasing. its just a new kind of music that actually is incredbile. whats your international hit band again captainpaul?
7underoath777 4 years ago
sick...that's all i can say...epic maybe-the show, not the crowd. Josh and aaron melt my face.
natertatertot88 4 years ago
Main stage is always garbage for pits. Try the encore tents for real shit.
Neosage1985 3 years ago
mosh you fucking dumbasses
SUBMISSION666 4 years ago 2
josh cracks me up hes this fat white guy in a flanel shirt running around and hamging from tha rafters( not in this video but) like when he played at the attic with the charoit
c4p7c011in5 4 years ago
Hell yes! Ape Shit Josh. I love 'im.
krystalizedhope 4 years ago
Josh Scogin is a beast i met him a few days ago hes by far one of the nicest people ever...
Augustburnsred99 4 years ago
i love how Josh stomps on the floor
christiansaiz 4 years ago
dude how come josh scogin and aaron weiss are so epic
byyours 4 years ago
Because they are amazing...enough said.
SpyinRyan 4 years ago
yes they do
coverbydesign 4 years ago
cmon paul, dont be hatin, and dont advertise for your own band...
defaulth 4 years ago
These guys are terrible.
Do yourself a favor and listen to Between the Buried and Me.
captainpaul 4 years ago
see, that's what im talking about. now im second guessing why im even on here looking up norma jean. rock on!
trek223 4 years ago
between the buried and me are good but were you at radio rebellion were they opened for norma jean ... they just kinda faded into the background of norma jeans greatness and that wasnt even norma jean with josh!!!
grmasnow 4 years ago
dude do ur self a favor and get good taste.. i mean i love btbam but norma jean is awesome too they both are good bands
jmba777 4 years ago
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In which way is Norma Jean a good group of musicians?
There's no melody or harmony. There's a severe lack of phrasing. The overall tone is rubbish (and I've never said that about drums before). Even the show itself is pissy.
There's nothing convincing me to say that this band has any talent. I've heard Noise Music more tactful that these dorks.
captainpaul 4 years ago
Id like to point out the immense breakdown of this song and the intro riff, where the crowd starts clapping, in both there is a clear display of melody, harmony and phrasing.
What this group of musicians create is pleasing to the ears.
Its a tight performance. Baring in mind the sound quality is not the best its still good.
Question: what's wrong with the overall tone/drums?
And what's Pissy about the show?
tommi12337 4 years ago
hey go killyourself, u wouldnt know music if mozart slapped u in the face with it...NORMA JEAN OWNS!
lukbag182 4 years ago
No they don't. The Beatles own mang.
captainpaul 4 years ago
I don't think you understand music very well. There's a melody in every song, no matter what song it is. That's what a song is. Maybe it's not very complex, or you just don't like it, but it's still there. Norma Jean isn't the most complex band out there, but they're still entertaining and good musicians. Tone doesn't make anyone better or worse. And this show, and all Norma Jean shows I've been to or seen in video are amazing, they have so much energy, and it's fun to listen to and move to.
LiberaTeExInferis 4 years ago
way to be man. thankyou for shutting some of these kids up.
Goodheavensmusic 4 years ago
haha me?
captainpaul 4 years ago
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ask any respected guitarist what the most important part of playing is. They'll tell you tone, every time. So yeah, it is an important part of the show.
I'm also confident in my experience with music. It's what I've been doing and living since fifth grade - ~10 years.
And I don't literally mean there isn't a melody. I know there's a melody in any piece of music, that'd be insulting to say. What I mean is that the melody here is garbage. Listen to Battles, they have talent.
captainpaul 4 years ago
The most important part of playing is not tone, ask any real guitarist.
And it's your opinion that the melody is garbage, but in my opinion, it is great. And it's more than just a melody that makes a song. I'm a bassist, and I play all kinda of music, and I almost never play a melody, I play a rhythm usually. That's incredibly important too, so by focusing on melody, you're disrespecting all drummers and bassists and other rhythm section instruments. You fail.
LiberaTeExInferis 4 years ago 3
unless he is refering to monophony, which just involves melody, he has a point though, in a normal homophonic song melody is supported by the rhythm and really is the centre focus in the piece of music any musician should know this and basically music isn't music without general direction, in other words you would listen to a backing track of a pop song because it would sound like repetitious garbage.
jackbackjack9 3 years ago
its souther hardcore (maybe not in the beginning. but as they got older) but tahts the style of music. lets think of bands like throwdown or terror, yeah they're super hardcore and the music gets you going like nothing else, but old jean stuff isnt really intended to be melodic moron.
Goodheavensmusic 4 years ago
Wow....that was amazing. I got goosebumps.
SpyinRyan 4 years ago
too bad corey cant reach the deep growls that josh could
deadpoeticstar 4 years ago
Why was I not there to see that... incredible.
AndyVanHalen 4 years ago
Im glad you enjoyed it.
Rawbstuh 5 years ago
Shit never mind im an idiot it both of them lol
BlainAngus 5 years ago
What's up with the Nirvana intro?
kyleisok 5 years ago
when he jumped into the crowd he kicked me in the head
MetalcoreManiac 5 years ago
Who hasn't been to 5 or so shows with Josh and been up front every time and not gotten kicked in the head by him at least once?
Neosage1985 3 years ago
god I love this song
XxTeganxCorexX 5 years ago
ohhhhh god.. I love this song soo much
XxTeganxCorexX 5 years ago
Neptune - Then stop watching and listening to them.
Rawbstuh 5 years ago
i need to see this in brazil before i die
please :~
lbvidz2 5 years ago
is that scogin singing with cory?
bastardofbodom07 5 years ago
10-4 to everything already said.
mailboxbeacon 5 years ago
this is amazing! im sure Scogin realized it was a bad idea to leave Norma Jean
komrade01 5 years ago
bahahaha The Chariot....oh man. was NOT a mistake.
AndrewBravener 5 years ago
that was amazing.
lovehatejosh 5 years ago
oh man
chronoson 5 years ago
i ALWAYS get goosebumps everytime i see them do this.
XdownforlifeX 5 years ago
sick.
they did that at purple door 05
as well.
mrwetback 5 years ago
pretty cool to see them together
sloshpots 5 years ago
man, that is just sick!
FourWordLetter524 5 years ago