i am in the mddle of this very swap. Regeared to 4.56. I figure i will measure the spaceing of the D35s brackets and match it to the 8.8 as I don't have a template to go by. how did you go about yours. Do you ave any advice for me prior to the welding?
@domeslacker I got the measurements off the internet, and then after tacking on each set of brackets, measure against my D35 to make sure. TAKE YOUR TIME and dont be afraid to try lining it up with the jeep after every few brackets are welded. Also be very careful with the track bar bracket it has to line up very well to work/articulate perfectly.
How much narrower is it than the D35? I found a set on Craigslist which is a ford 8.8 ready to bolt in to the tj (the guy says he finds old 8.8s and makes them for tj's) and a trussed D44 front for $2200
@CnRDirt That sounds like a good deal. The 8.8 is about an inch shorter on each side i seem to recall?? Nothing a pair of wheel spacers wont fix (or some rims with less backspacing)
@CheesenCrackers69 yeah, 1.25" spidertraxes in rear and some .25" spacers in the front should work then, the only problem i have is that i dont have $2200 right now
@CnRDirt i didnt even bother adding spacers in the front. And there are cheapers ones then spidertrax, I think JKS? Too bad you dont have the money :(
Snap'd shafts and pinion shaft. i did the superior 8.8 kit with chromoly axles. when it was limiited slipp, i cracked a carrier. did an ox locker, never had a problem yet. hope i've helped
Nice dude! i was just making sure because its a common installation problem even the specialize 4x4 garages ran into at some point. i wish i had a youtube account earlier. how ya feelin with the 8.8? i've managed to break mine iin ever single way....
@OffroadexpressQuy Really? What size tires are you running and do you have a locker? Mine is limited slip with new 35's and i've never had a problem. I'm gonna get a selectable locker soon i think.
Hey man, the reason for the tire rub on the passenger side is because you welded the axles offset. The ford 8.8 third member( carrier housing) is roughly 2 inches offset going towards passenger side. take a look, your driver side tire is sticking out. measure the axle tubes and examine the passenger side axle tube is much shorter then the driverside, if installed straight, the third member is more towards the righthand side, not centered. SYE is recommended unless you done so afterwards
@OffroadexpressQuy thanks for the reply, but i accounted for that when i welded everything on. The reason i had tire rub on one side is a combination of two things. The axle is narrower than the dana 35, and because my jeep is lifted without an adjustable rear track bar, it pulls the whole axle a little bit over to one side. Those two things were enough to couse the problem. All I did was put on some 1 1/2" wheel spacers, I will put in a new track bar as well soon. Thanks for the reply!
ahh ok i had a 4 inch lift on it and the got higher about 1 1/2-2 inches i think due to the 8.8's larger tubes and the spring bucket is a lil taller than the d35 hmm i guess the sye is my best bet now or maybe longer control arms for now?? hmm
hi u put an 8.8 on my jeep tj too and i dont have an sye either and when i adjusted my pinion angle with the upper control arms i think it the play of the d_shaft all the way in and its pushing the t-case up and now sometimes the fan on my engine plastic cover near the radiator just asking if you had the same problem?
@kitfalco It sounds like your driveshaft is now too long due to the 8.8's pinion being longer then the d35's, how much lift do you have? I didn't have this problem, but I invested in an SYE and tom woods driveshaft recently and it feels much smoother. This would be the best solution for you as well. Check out advance adapters SYE kit.
@TheGr8scott why what? Why did I do this swap? I wanted peace of mind that my axle could stand up the the abuse I put it through, I also wanted my next set of tires to be 35's and this was a recommended mod to do for that tire size upgrade.
@CheesenCrackers69 Woah, I don't know about almost as strong as a D60! An 8.8 will handle up to 37-38 inch tire pretty well as long as your nice to it, anymore than that is pushing it. D60 can go up to 44-46 inches without a problem, I wouldn't call that "almost!" As for your tires rubbing just get some wheels with more backspacing. And when are you gonna get rid of that t-case lowering kit and throw some skids all up there? Protect yo' belly FOO!
that part you were asking about @ 0:20 time. "anyone know what this is for???" Its the counter weight to help keep axle from trying to rotate from the torque rotation. Helps keep both tires planted under acceleration. Some vehicles even have an extra shock mounted to it or near it. My wifes 2005 Jeep Liberty with the 2.8L Diesel has the same type of weight.
I did this conversion over the summer, pulled my axle from a 01 Mercury Mountaineer. While I was at the clunker yard I also pulled the emergency brake cables from a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I had already install Tom Woods SYE and shaft conversion, I purchased a conversion U-joint to fit the explorer yoke to the Jeep drive shaft.
I got a deal on a 1987 Sahara with 4bt Cummins, Dodge Ram frame, full roll cage 6 inch lift, 44 Mickey T's, Ford 8.8's front and rear, 2002 dash, 2002 seats, rhino lined, fully skid plated w/ 1/4 aluminum, locker, rockers, quick disconnect sway bars, polyurethane bushings, full Brembo brake system, heavy duty tire rack, cvt drive shafts, KC light bar and fog lights front and rear, winch, 2 heavy duty batteries, 8' Moose plow, high amp alternator, 4.5 lift, hard and soft top, 1500.00
@CheesenCrackers69 I am planning on upgrading to the rough country long arm so I was going to wait till then but i might just put it in sooner since it looks like yours worked out fine. I still need the brackets flange adapter and e-brake cables
what kind of welder did you use to weld the brackets? 220v mig?
CallMeJack08 1 month ago
@CallMeJack08 I used a cheap 220v stick welder
CheesenCrackers69 1 month ago
@CheesenCrackers69 cool. what control arms are you using? your thoughts on them?
CallMeJack08 1 month ago
i am in the mddle of this very swap. Regeared to 4.56. I figure i will measure the spaceing of the D35s brackets and match it to the 8.8 as I don't have a template to go by. how did you go about yours. Do you ave any advice for me prior to the welding?
domeslacker 1 month ago
@domeslacker I got the measurements off the internet, and then after tacking on each set of brackets, measure against my D35 to make sure. TAKE YOUR TIME and dont be afraid to try lining it up with the jeep after every few brackets are welded. Also be very careful with the track bar bracket it has to line up very well to work/articulate perfectly.
CheesenCrackers69 1 month ago
@CheesenCrackers69 Thanks!
domeslacker 1 month ago
How much narrower is it than the D35? I found a set on Craigslist which is a ford 8.8 ready to bolt in to the tj (the guy says he finds old 8.8s and makes them for tj's) and a trussed D44 front for $2200
CnRDirt 1 month ago
@CnRDirt That sounds like a good deal. The 8.8 is about an inch shorter on each side i seem to recall?? Nothing a pair of wheel spacers wont fix (or some rims with less backspacing)
CheesenCrackers69 1 month ago
@CheesenCrackers69 yeah, 1.25" spidertraxes in rear and some .25" spacers in the front should work then, the only problem i have is that i dont have $2200 right now
CnRDirt 1 month ago
@CnRDirt i didnt even bother adding spacers in the front. And there are cheapers ones then spidertrax, I think JKS? Too bad you dont have the money :(
CheesenCrackers69 1 month ago
Snap'd shafts and pinion shaft. i did the superior 8.8 kit with chromoly axles. when it was limiited slipp, i cracked a carrier. did an ox locker, never had a problem yet. hope i've helped
OffroadexpressQuy 2 months ago
@OffroadexpressQuy Thanks for the info. You must be really hard on your rig lol.
CheesenCrackers69 2 months ago
Nice dude! i was just making sure because its a common installation problem even the specialize 4x4 garages ran into at some point. i wish i had a youtube account earlier. how ya feelin with the 8.8? i've managed to break mine iin ever single way....
OffroadexpressQuy 2 months ago
@OffroadexpressQuy Really? What size tires are you running and do you have a locker? Mine is limited slip with new 35's and i've never had a problem. I'm gonna get a selectable locker soon i think.
CheesenCrackers69 2 months ago
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jrlegacy23 2 months ago
Hey man, the reason for the tire rub on the passenger side is because you welded the axles offset. The ford 8.8 third member( carrier housing) is roughly 2 inches offset going towards passenger side. take a look, your driver side tire is sticking out. measure the axle tubes and examine the passenger side axle tube is much shorter then the driverside, if installed straight, the third member is more towards the righthand side, not centered. SYE is recommended unless you done so afterwards
OffroadexpressQuy 3 months ago
@OffroadexpressQuy thanks for the reply, but i accounted for that when i welded everything on. The reason i had tire rub on one side is a combination of two things. The axle is narrower than the dana 35, and because my jeep is lifted without an adjustable rear track bar, it pulls the whole axle a little bit over to one side. Those two things were enough to couse the problem. All I did was put on some 1 1/2" wheel spacers, I will put in a new track bar as well soon. Thanks for the reply!
CheesenCrackers69 2 months ago
The axle started out with disc brakes, why switch back to drums?
88Lbody 4 months ago
@88Lbody I see you left it disc, the one picture had drums. lol
88Lbody 4 months ago
@88Lbody there are a small set of drum brakes inside the disc brake for use as a parking brake.
CheesenCrackers69 4 months ago
@CheesenCrackers69 I see. Never knew that.
Guess I'll see when I pull mine apart here in the next few days.
88Lbody 4 months ago
ok then im convinced im getting an sye now thanks for all the help!
kitfalco 5 months ago
@kitfalco did you ever get the SYE? Did it fix your problem?
CheesenCrackers69 1 month ago
ahh ok i had a 4 inch lift on it and the got higher about 1 1/2-2 inches i think due to the 8.8's larger tubes and the spring bucket is a lil taller than the d35 hmm i guess the sye is my best bet now or maybe longer control arms for now?? hmm
kitfalco 5 months ago
@kitfalco If you can afford it, do an SYE kit. of you're tight for cash you could get your driveshaft shortened.
CheesenCrackers69 5 months ago
hi u put an 8.8 on my jeep tj too and i dont have an sye either and when i adjusted my pinion angle with the upper control arms i think it the play of the d_shaft all the way in and its pushing the t-case up and now sometimes the fan on my engine plastic cover near the radiator just asking if you had the same problem?
kitfalco 5 months ago
@kitfalco It sounds like your driveshaft is now too long due to the 8.8's pinion being longer then the d35's, how much lift do you have? I didn't have this problem, but I invested in an SYE and tom woods driveshaft recently and it feels much smoother. This would be the best solution for you as well. Check out advance adapters SYE kit.
CheesenCrackers69 5 months ago
wow this is a difficult swap after reading that write up
CJ80ish 5 months ago
Just why?
TheGr8scott 6 months ago
@TheGr8scott why what? Why did I do this swap? I wanted peace of mind that my axle could stand up the the abuse I put it through, I also wanted my next set of tires to be 35's and this was a recommended mod to do for that tire size upgrade.
CheesenCrackers69 6 months ago
@CheesenCrackers69 Is this better then a D60? I have never heard of doing this before and it did look a little rusty hence my comment...
TheGr8scott 6 months ago
@TheGr8scott It's almost as strong as a Dana60, but easier to find, better width, and cheaper. I got this axle out of a 1996 ford explorer for 100$
CheesenCrackers69 6 months ago
@CheesenCrackers69 Woah, I don't know about almost as strong as a D60! An 8.8 will handle up to 37-38 inch tire pretty well as long as your nice to it, anymore than that is pushing it. D60 can go up to 44-46 inches without a problem, I wouldn't call that "almost!" As for your tires rubbing just get some wheels with more backspacing. And when are you gonna get rid of that t-case lowering kit and throw some skids all up there? Protect yo' belly FOO!
gomerkyle9 4 months ago
@gomerkyle9 true enough. For most peoples needs the 8.8 is outstanding though. Since this video i have done an SYE and a belly up skid.
CheesenCrackers69 4 months ago
@CheesenCrackers69 Yeah, I'll be putting an 8.8 in mine soon enough. I think i'm going to do the belly up first though.
gomerkyle9 4 months ago
@gomerkyle9 if you do both at once you can make sure your driveshaft length will work out with the belly up AND the axle :)
CheesenCrackers69 4 months ago
Sound like Napoleon Dynamite! Awesome video!
jayvando707 8 months ago
that part you were asking about @ 0:20 time. "anyone know what this is for???" Its the counter weight to help keep axle from trying to rotate from the torque rotation. Helps keep both tires planted under acceleration. Some vehicles even have an extra shock mounted to it or near it. My wifes 2005 Jeep Liberty with the 2.8L Diesel has the same type of weight.
jeepcollector91 11 months ago
@jeepcollector91 Thanks!
CheesenCrackers69 10 months ago
I did this conversion over the summer, pulled my axle from a 01 Mercury Mountaineer. While I was at the clunker yard I also pulled the emergency brake cables from a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I had already install Tom Woods SYE and shaft conversion, I purchased a conversion U-joint to fit the explorer yoke to the Jeep drive shaft.
btarrh 1 year ago
I got a deal on a 1987 Sahara with 4bt Cummins, Dodge Ram frame, full roll cage 6 inch lift, 44 Mickey T's, Ford 8.8's front and rear, 2002 dash, 2002 seats, rhino lined, fully skid plated w/ 1/4 aluminum, locker, rockers, quick disconnect sway bars, polyurethane bushings, full Brembo brake system, heavy duty tire rack, cvt drive shafts, KC light bar and fog lights front and rear, winch, 2 heavy duty batteries, 8' Moose plow, high amp alternator, 4.5 lift, hard and soft top, 1500.00
Reverseflush 1 year ago
good video i should be doing that pretty soon. If I knew I didnt need a sye for it to work it would probably be in already
calven727 1 year ago
@calven727 I plan on getting one and adjustable upper control arms but it's definitely fine without
CheesenCrackers69 1 year ago
@CheesenCrackers69 I am planning on upgrading to the rough country long arm so I was going to wait till then but i might just put it in sooner since it looks like yours worked out fine. I still need the brackets flange adapter and e-brake cables
calven727 1 year ago
@calven727 nice, if for whatever reason your driveshaft is too long or short, you could probably get another one made for a good price.
check out ECGS.com for some of the parts you need (in description) Good luck!
CheesenCrackers69 1 year ago