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  • They put a swift sport up against a standard cooper go sport 4 sport cus it wud get smashed by a cooper s

  • Loved my 55 swift 1.3, picking up my 07 Civic Type R GT next friday morning. Hell yeah!!

  • "OK, maybe the speedometer is getting a bit on the large side these days..." I would wager that the speedo is normal sized but is comparatively larger in the diminutive Mini!

  • He's not a very good driver this guy...

  • @RoniisH Dude, he's a professional racing driver and he raced in Formula 1...

  • C2 vts is pants! Citroen's terrible follow up to the awesome saxo vts. Massive personal and business failure to citroen..

  • @sax0joe Thought so, saxo fanboy. Clearly knows fuck all about anything. Love saxo's and my c2 vts. having OWNED a paxo vtr i WAS going to buy the saxo vts. Realising the group 14 insurance tag on it clearly didnt help me. With the c2 vts having group 8 makes sense. Also my c2 vts sticks with my mates saxo vts, his saxo gets away in the bends abit but when you consider how light the saxo is it really is awesome. Saxo vts is awesome but get over yourself. fanboy lmao

  • @Rashnu09 Im 27 and no c2 vts would keep with my car unless it was turbo'd or tb'd and on decent suspension. End of.

    If the c2 vts was so great it would have sold as well as the saxo vts. But it didn't because it wasn't as good.

    Sure it may be a more sensible option but as a speed package its flawed in everyway compared to the saxo.

  • @sax0joe @sax0joe funny thing was, i was comparing the c2 to the swift, you included the saxo as which every fanboy saxo owner does. I know the saxo is better, when have i said it isn't?so yes put your dick back in your trousers. i even have a vid on my channel of my old vtr driving past. On another note saying a c2 would have to be throttlebodied? check these..

  • Suzuki swift is just a better car than the over priced and over weight mini. Best swift sports are Jap imports as they come with 140bhp. the ffront bumper is better as well.

  • @antoninorusso1 yeah but if i had to choose id pick the mini it just looks so much better than the swift.

  • come on what a bullshit i raced againest cooper s and i was faster than the cooper s to90-100km with my swift sport no way normal mini can beat it on track? swift sport is made for track why no one cant beat it in jwrc than? swift wins every year and it has great result on nurburgring too i think he let the mini won because he is english i dont believe this bastard

  • SWIET IS MUCH BETTER

  • pretty good score for the swift here! Must be a good bargain second hand.

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  • mini is better handeling than the swift because mini are renown for this and they are

    race again and mini will win

    if you want a race against a mini get the classic it would shit on both cars swift or new mini

  • swift sport is the one of the best car at corners no way mini can win this race something wrong may be driver

  • Originally, I wanted a Cooper, I realized it's so expensive. That's why I laid my eyes on the Swift.

    MINI has better handling, but I'll get almost the same performance and better BHP. I'll go for the Swift.

    BTW, a Suzuki Swift costs about Php 730,00 and a MINI Cooper costs about Php 1.7-1.9 Million! That's a LARGE difference considering how close they really are.

  • Swift is better regardless of this dodgie test result!! The result does not make any sense. Swift is lighter, more BHP, shorter ratio gear box and better looking. I forgot one can't let a Jap car beat a BMW...nah nah nah....the snobbish factor comes into play!

  • @jaykGSi16vMk2 Snobbish factor lol. Mini Coopers are far from snobbish. If this were between the swift and a Porsche, then yeah.

    And You get what you pay for.

  • @TheUnNerved No you can't compare a Swift to a Porsche lol, but I see the point you are trying to put across.

  • I absolutely love my Swift Sport. Here in Australia, the Mini Cooper costs more than AU$6500 over the Swift Sport. There was no way I was going to pay that much more for less car.

    I like the slightly more discrete styling of the Swift and the fact that it's a 5-door (only the EU models are 3-door), making it a little more practical. Also, I like the fact that it only comes with a good old manual gearbox which helps to discourage posers from buying the Swift.

  • Yeah, but let's ask the big question:

    Which car would pass the Kristin Scott Thomas test?

    Hmmmm...

  • The Mini is really old hat now and driven by smart arsed smug twats who want to try and look cool , jut like arrogant BMW owners....OR as top gear calls them "COCKS".

    No, Im not jealous either 'cos I cant see what there is to be jealous about..

  • @pedalman no, not now. now top gears says that all cocks drive audis.

  • Yeah, cocks now drive Audis, and BMWs . The BMW drivers who havn't changed to Audis are still cocks.

    I have to say though my brother in law drives a BMW just because he likes the car , he isn't a cock so there are some exceptions to the rule.

  • Swift sport anytime! Same fun without breaking your bank account. Forget icon, driving a 'legendary' car doesn't make you a legend

  • The Suzuki is a car.

    The MIni is an Icon.

  • The BMW mini is NOT an icon, the original mini IS the icon, remember how long the original stayed the same shape? never had to be changed........lets see how long the BMW non mini ( which is very big compared to the original) stays the same shape.

  • You're right, my first car was a Mini.

    I loved that car.

    And you're also right to agree with Hammond/Clarkson/May's opinion about BMW drivers.

    But have you driven a Mini? The new one?

    It's a hoot. Seriously. The new car captures the go-cart feeling of the original.

    It's utterly brilliant.

  • To be honest I haven't driven the BMW "mini" I'm sure it is a brilliant handling car just like all BMWs seem to be. my gripe with it is how people have bought into this idea of mass advertising that it is a modern mini with 60s credentials when it clearly is a totally new (medium size) car from the ground up.

    I dont know any stastistics but side by side the original iconic mini looks half the size......but I know which one Id rather be in a crash in though !

  • I live in Thailand now, and the price difference between the mini and swift is astonishing. The Swift sport here is about 600, 000 bht, which is just over 10,000 uk pounds. The mini is 1.5million baht more.

    You do the math.

    The swift is a much better buy

  • I had a Cooper and agree they are a fantastic car but way too over priced, pound for pound I'd sooner have the Swift, BMW are just a bunch of greedy Pig's, every single thing is an extra whilst the Swift comes with many standard features for less money, I'd have the swift anyday.

  • I just bought my Swift today. :)

    Well, not the sport version, "only" a 1.5 GS with all factory accessories.

  • I'd stick with my fabia vRS :D

  • Japanese cars = solid quality and style.

  • I disagree with you in this case, because Mini is a legend and it looks much more stylish than Swift, but, I think, Suzuki is better built.

  • the swift looked more fun

  • Good Test, But I think a better one should be aimed at more every day activities. I don't think we all power round tracks all the time :p

  • fuck mini, it's not mini anymore, it's BMW machine put on british chassis and it has lost its originality..but the swift is pure japanese, i'd rather buy the swift, they are more durable.

  • the mini is a BMW that says everything

  • but i like the swift

  • swift sport=£11,995 mini cooper=£13,795, thats not £1,500 differance thats £1,700. so if track speed is important y not consider Nitous Oxide kit for £500 and an induction kit for around £100?

    that would still make £1,100 saving and a 35bhp to 55bhp increase (wouldn't recomend the 75bhp NoS jets due to high compression ratio on the swift)

  • 1 other alturnative is a low compressiom turbo, i have just done a turbo comverson on a toyota yaris ts 1.5 and cost a little over £2k after full mapping.

  • sorry, bad spelling, lol

  • not very scientific but if true the Swift is rather good

  • mini is better than swift at straight but when it come a turn / u turn is swift is more better than mini.

    it's my opinion

  • how can it be better than swift at straight? swift does 0-100km in 8.9 in specs and mini does 9.2 in specs? can u explain this? and if u are a good driver swift can do it in just 8 sec with esp off swift is much faster than that little shit

  • BMW "Mini" by name only, not by size or history. It resembles the original mini not one jot !!

  • My mom want´s the new suzuki gran vitara... i am trying to convince her to buy the swift sport.

  • the grand vitara is good too

  • Swift is my 1st car, it is the shit beats all cars in its price range

  • Same, my first car also, why would I want a Mini seriously ? It is for people who don't take life seriously, plus... there is a supercharger for the Swift now :P

  • @02kellt1 i beg to differ,it beatscars well above its price range

  • @number9ninja beats all cars in its price range?! my C2 vts will rattle that swift everywhere.. and its alot cheaper

  • @Rashnu09 C2 vts is slower, even Tiff mentioned it in the Swift Sport FIfth Gear review.

  • @NumeroUnoUberMoose LOL slower? swift 0-60 8.9 secs FACT. C2 VTS 0-60 8.3 FACT. Alsothe swift is group 9 insurance where as the vts is group 8

  • @NumeroUnoUberMoose no he says its quicker than the c2 vtr which is automatic and only 110bhp

  • @02kellt1 beats all cars in its price range?! my C2 vts will rattle that swift everywhere.. and its alot cheaper

  • @02kellt1

    Its my first too!

    Bought it new with just about everything on it. It is pure comfort. Even when taking it on holiday and driving it for 2000 km..

  • you cant compare swift with mini since swift is low priced

  • @ajokurinji people were saying the same about hyundai and kia and they're kickin ass now in the US. Look at the new genesis and sonata... gorgeous cars... and of course kia's new sorento and (honda civic look alike) forte... if a car maker wants to charge too much for a car and get destroyed by makers cheaper than themselves, then let them compare

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  • I had the choice of any car for my birthday as long as the engine is no more than a 1.6, i chose the swift, a few of my friends have mini's not sure what engines, but i love my swift, it is epic around corners & I live in the countryside.

  • wow, i would have got something else, a suzuki isn't exactly the coolest car to show off to ur friends..

  • I dont need to show off, people stare at what I have anyway :)

  • that reminds of something a mate said to me

    Swift GTi, respected in the racing scene

    New Swift, Respected in the shopping centre car park

  • lucky for him he get his own car for his birthday man...

  • he doesn't own a car

  • Clarkson says its cool , Needell likes it . Nuf said.

    better than looking like a pretentious smug twat in a mini.

  • I prefer the mini. At least we can be thankful that the swift isn't what it used to be. It used to be a geo.

  • What name is song?

  • minis are still a joke

  • Envy!!!

  • Truth

  • Oh please, don't kid yourself...

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  • I wouldn't exactly call the swift a dark horse, it does look fast

  • Fix

  • You do realize that mini wasnt supercharged.

    Had it been, it would have spanked that suzuki by even more.

  • there s no way that mini is faster than the swift...swift is faster , better to handle...

  • what do u think he is english and he let the english car wins no way that fucking mini is faster than swift swift sport is rally car and jrc champion!

  • you are 100% right and dont forget that swift is 2 times cheaper!! I hope I will get my swift next year :)

  • Good job 5th Gear

  • Have you guys ever noticed that the first car he drives always lose? lol

  • i like the swift sport, But could a man buy one? please help me...

  • Top Gear is an amazing show, but yes it does have trouble reviewing small cars. Fifth Gear reviews smaller cars more often, but is generally quite dull. I'd rather watch Top Gear any day.

    As for this test, I'd still take a Suzuki Swift Sport any day, it looks better (come on the Mini is like a tiny box on wheels) is more funky (who needs a stupidly large speedometer anyway) and considering its £1.5k cheaper at least, who cares about 0.9 seconds?

  • this test sucks...swift sport is much quicker and driveplay is much better..pff...

  • i think this is the sport.

  • "you don't say! Tiff used to be a racing driver"

    rep to celt67 I was replying to your comment about the fact that u said Tiff could beat Clarkson in his sleep

  • Fifth gear is better than Top Gear in that they review more cars which the most of the general can afford. But I'd rather watch an episode of Top Gear than Fifth Gear any day, Top Gear is pure entertainment and you don't have to be a car fanatic to like it.

  • 0.19 secs

  • wow, I am so going to buy a mini now because it beat a suzuki by 1.9 seconds in a single lap track race.

  • All those bleating about Top Gear...go watch Top Gear fucking videos then, and stop boring us with your predictable cliched comments.

    P.S. Although I love TG, Tiff could outdrive Clarkson in his sleep.

  • You are so right, I believe Richard Whitely was quicker than Clarkson in the 'star in a car challenge'!!! Clarkson is an old fart and well past his sell by date and i've yet to see him hold a power slide-they usually cut just before he loses it!

  • Don't get me wrong..I love Clarkson and the lads. No-one..NO-ONE presents a show with the Cinematograph excellence and humour that Top Gear can...but I read these comments to find out what people think of the car on show...not some fanboys (usually too young to drive or just stupid) who can't see past Top Gear. Fifth Gear is an excellent program, and folk need to realise that.

  • Spot on comments, I just hope 5th gear stops straying into the realms of stupidity, i.e. racing three wheelers etc.etc. Tiff is a great driver, as is Jason, but I do wish Vicky would stop having orgasms every time she scares herself.

  • Vicky annoys me with her over confident "IM A WOMAN AND CAN DRIVE REALLY WELL".

    We know you can well but please stop this show of false modesty while your body language and expressions overflows with annoying confidence.

  • Next question:

    Who would win in a race?

    Sabine Schmitt or Vicky BH?

  • On the nurbergring schmitt no contest , I wouldn't bet on schmitt everywhere else though, could be a close call....but what does it matter they are all presenting motoring programmes including Tiff, if they were any good at all they'd be pro racers.

  • yea tiff MIGHT be able to beat clarkson but guess what clarkson isnt the one testing the vehicles...the stig is...and guess what...in a race, the stig could make himself a pizza while taking a piss and beat tiff driving any day..

    oh and while im at it....we do watch top gar....but after we have watched every single one and are awaiting BBC to put more out we have to spend fractions of our free time watching the shitier Fifth Gear just so we can rant about how shitty it is.

  • you don't say! Tiff used to be a racing driver

  • and.......? whats your point ?

  • Yes Tiff was a racing driver....... lets have a list of his achievements , a list of what he won to prove it .

  • all bmw drivers are wankers

  • /signed

  • top gear is way better

  • that guys a bastard but he sure can drive.

  • Jap cars are good but theyre a bit plasticy and feel cheap, i agree with sablades68's comment in that the best cars are german... i own a german car. but the new mini isnt a real mini, its fookin huge, slow and german. theyre like fashonable shoes, people buy them because they want to look cool!.

    i would have a classic mini over a new BMW one any day.

  • rep to alfybaby64, have you driven a mini one or cooper s? A cooper S is brilliant, a much more exciting drive than my mates boxter S. a classic mini nowadays is a potential death trap

  • ... and unfortunately you're very wrong. japanese cars are workhorses and much cheaper.... yes the german cars are more refined and a much better drive but they're a LOT more expensive, have ludicrous depreciation and don't age well at all (tried getting parts for earlier models?!)

  • reply ro re20bt I agree with you, but name me a car more refined than a bmw with a better diesel engine for mpg and performance than say 3.0d or 335d. the jap styling is also a bit placcy cheapy and try to copy german cars

  • yes you're right there, a lot of new model japanese cars are based on european styling but it really is apples and oranges. japan is also (way) behind in diesel technology because diesel-powered vehicles are frowned upon and banned in most major cities (i know because i live here). personally i think hybrid technology is a long way from being practical, and diesel is by far the better option (the mpg on diesel is MUCH better overall, no matter what the stats tell you)

  • And all the best spellers too!

  • i think the swift looks nicer and the interior is better!!better value for money.

  • top gear is boring same every week

  • wtf?

  • top gear is much much better

  • or not! fifth gears better! its for people who actually no stuff about cars. not a bunch of people who read all there stuff from books like top gear!

  • If top gear, there would actually be shooting. TG is so much better!

  • British car shows rule- Top & 5th.I live in America and our car shows suck!

  • u r damn right, British and Japanese car shows are better, 5th gear & Best Motoring r 2 of my favors.

    unique whips, pinks, & some NASCAR programs r the shows i dislike.

  • uniqe whips is the stupidest show i've ever seen. they have that fat that tells everyone what to do and if something is wrong he gets pissed off. what a fatass

  • a copy of top gear but much worse

  • Totally agree :)

  • lol!

  • Top Gear Is better then Fifth Gear!

  • i still prefer the swift though

  • wheres the shooting

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