It makes no sense to just shout down the theory without reasoning. It is quite obvious that the price of oil is now set by a cartel, and has been for a long time. The depth argument is also interesting. The nazis made synthetic crude oil from coal, which is dead organic matter.
The peak oil idea as been floated several times over the last 50 years, only to be frustrated by another huge find.
Now a Cartel controls all oil exploration, we have peak oil. Coincidence? Interesting topic!
"Abiotic oil" is a scientific fairy tail; once upon a time, deep within the crust of the earth, unsaturated carbon and molecular hydrogen valiantly joined forces and for the first time in the universe the second law of thermodynamics was shattered. The End!
@MrPentatonicScale Nice reply, that's a typical response from someone who is ignorant and really can't back up his own opinion. Americans are idiots. The saddest part about this argument is that fossil fuels have not been proven. Like evolution they are both still theories. Instead of getting angry, why not be intelligent and debate the other side with facts. Either way, it is a theory so until you make it fact stop making yourself look bad. Russia teaches the Abiotic theory
@DoneDiddit first of all Americans are not idiots, here are some facts: we use plants and algae to produce semi-synthetic hydrocarbons, not rocks, let me know when you guys can set rocks (mostly oxygen and silicon) on fire and I'll pull a monkey out of my ass.
Abiotic oil theory sucks, even youtube's spell checker doesn't like the word abiotic
@MrPentatonicScale Great response that really hits right at the issue. So convincing of absolutely nothing. Check out how deep oil is drilled at please and think about it for a little while. Let me know if you need help...Oil like diamonds are only valuable if they are scarce. It's about money. I don't know what you mean by you guys... I'm American. This country is filled with ignorant people who believe everything this terrible education system has to offer.
This is bunk. There was not theory of peak oil until 1950's...and it was a fringe concept by Dr. Hubbert at that time. It was never taken seriously until the 1970's when the USA peaked and has ever since declined in production even with all new finds and new production.
And it was not taken seriously until the 2000's when the prices ran up.
The USA consumes 20.5 Million Barrel. We produced 10.5 Million at our height in the 70's. We now produce less than 5 Million.
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. "
STILL WAITING.. COME ON PROVE IT!!! YOU BETTER CITE SOME EVIDENCE OF THAT.. BYW, I NEVER FOUND YOUR MISSING 1988 CITATION... YOU KNOW WHY? YOU LIED AND IT DOES NOT EXIST BBWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. "
Well COME ON AND PROVE IT TO THE WORLD! DEFEND YOUR STATEMENT!!!!!
YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND LET THE ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY SEE YOUR REVOLUTION IN PETRO GEOLOGY! COME ON MAN< WE ARE WAITING!!!!!!!!
@geosylvatelopor See my Earlier post on TITAN. AGAIN PROVE TO ME THAT THAT HYDROCARBON HAS NEVER BEEN STORED SOLAR ENERGY AS YOU STATED IN YOUR ORIGINAL POST
HA HA HA RUN FOR THE HILLS!!! YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLE CONCEPT OF ENERGY STORAGE!!!!! AND YOU CLAIM TO BE A BIOLOGIST....??? HA HA YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND PHOTOSYNTHESIS, BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. " BWAAAAHHAAAAHAAAAAA !!!!!! YOU ARE A COMPLETE FOOL!!!! Prove to the world HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHHAAAA
HA HA HA you obviously are no biologist. I can provide a government academic email address where I work. Now lets see you do the same. You cannot , Because it is blatantly clear you are no biologist.
You are no biologist I guarantee it. Or you would know what hydrocarbons and Biomass are... so please, do not make yourself look anymore foolish than you already do by claiming you are a biologist. Any Biology 101 class learns the origin of Biomass and hydrocarbons, so nice try kiddo...
You people do not have a clue. Abiotic oil has been proven false. The oil in a well has a slight rise in level because of natural compaction lift. Nobody here can cite any geological processes that can make abiotinc oil. and I am sorry, we can synthesize organic molecules in a lab similar to abiotic oil, none of you seem to be aware of is that fossil fuel is STORED SOLAR ENERGY. please, someone post one detailed explanation how "idiotic" aboitic oil can magically appear. from the Mantle.
Oil was $20 a barrel in 2003 just prior to the Bush invasion of Iraq. I am puzzled by the price of $100 oil in 2011, given the plentiful supply. I suspect there are conspiratorial elements at work, but that is only one hypothesis.
@garethb1961 It's partially based on carbon dating. Various oils radio-carbon date to illogical/inexplicable ages; either recently living material or older than the accepted age of Earth, itself. Oil can be 'manufactured' in a laboratory without taking millions of years. There is some evidence this is happening in nature in Gulf of California, opposing current biogenesis theory. People also say it's not possible, even harboring contempt for what they don't understand or want to acknowledge.
@DrMotorDude Cite the evidence in a peer reviewed journal please. You cannot just claim there is evidence for "idiotic" abiotic oil. Next you are going to try to convince us Earth is only 6,000 years old.
@geosylvatelopor FIRST I am not the one who claimed ANYTHING - RE-READ my RESPONSE to someone else. SECOND people with religious fervor not unlike yours, use 'peer reviewed' and 'idiotic' in the same sentence. If you need an explanation of carbon dating, ask the science teacher at the middle school you currently attend. It was published in "AIChE" in 1988. BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule.
@DrMotorDude Are you out of your mind? Fossil fuel is STORED SOLAR ENERGY, . Plant matter is derived and constructed as a carbon based organic life from solar energy. The plant dies, rapid burial to depth and pressure occur, and that is how we get petroleum. How can you sit here and say Hydrocarbons are not stored solar energy? Without SOL they would never exist. You are the one who needs to take a couple of 400 level petro-geology courses.
@geosylvatelopor 1. You assume plants are the sole source of HC deposits - WRONG. I'll give you a hint, junior look up 'methane hydrate.' 2. Never debate 'chicken or egg' with a biologist - you'll loose every time.
@DrMotorDude WRONG! Only on Titan can such processes occur such as you are postulating.. Oh, By the way, I am a planetary geologist and work at the National Solar observatory in Tucson. Oh Please... Prove to the world Hydrocarbons are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY. By the way, You "citation" from way back in 1988 does not exist. It is not there on the website you posted.
@DrMotorDude The deposits you refer to are only a very MINOR percent because we do not have the same processes as TITAN. Sorry, but you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
@DrMotorDude YOU CANNOT EVEN SPELL CORRECTLY!!! IT IS "LOSE EVERY TIME, NOT "LOSE" EVERY TIME. YOU LACK BASIC VOCABULARY SKILLS! AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE YOU ARE A BIOLOGIST!!! FAIL!!!!!
@DrMotorDude HA HA HA.. All BIOMASS is stores solar energy. Oil is Biomass. You complete lack of grasp on the subject is laughable. you can say anything you want you are the one who is in middle school if you think biomass and hydrocarbons are not forms of stored solar energy. You are clueless actually, and you should stop now before you make a complete fool of yourself.
@DrMotorDude YOU FAIL ... I really do not want to make you look like a complete idiot... but you are doing that to yourself. Everyone reading this google HYDROCARBONS STORED SOLAR ENERGY. So, I am not trying to be a d-bag, but everyone is going to see the google results, and you are going to look like a fool... so I suggest you start running for the hills while you still can, or change you username BWAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!!!
@geosylvatelopor Wrong again, son. Chemoautotrophic organisms do NOT rely on ANY sunlight by their very definition of existence. "Chemo" - NOT "PHOTO" Get it, kid? You not only fail, you lose.
@DrMotorDude Prove to me you are a biologist, because whatever place trained you obviosly should not be in the business of certifying anyone in biology,, you have constantly misapplied terms, and changed the subject of the original discussion. So I will give yu again several days so you can research answers and then do copy/pastes from wikipedia while I sit here and watch you do the duck and weave and prove to me fossil fuels are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY.
@DrMotorDude HA HA my younger son (who is 22) uses that stupid phrase.. you are such a pathetic phony... now go clean your room, idiot. you arent fooling anyone. You have not even completed first semester of chemistry class judging by your idiotic posts here. you must have gotten no better than a C.. BTW what University are you attending, I need to have a word with your instructor. GO AHEAD, POST YOUR UNIVERSITY!
@DrMotorDude This is so funny.. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and google "ENERGY STORAGE". I will be happy to debate you all you want on this subject, because science is on my side, and your misconceptions are going to take you down. so sit here and tell the world that Biomass and Hydrocarbons are not forms of stored solar energy.. give it your best shot!
@DrMotorDude You are such a phony... The SUN is what made the hydrocarbons to begin with. This is BIOLOGY 101 Dude, so do not site here and claim you are a biologist, because with all Organic life, the SUN is the energy source. but quit changing the subject. PROVE TO THE WHOLE WORLD THAT HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY... YOU CANNOT DO IT!!!!!! YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT BIOMASS IS BUILD FROM SOLAR ENERGY!!! YOU ARE A FRAUD!
@DrMotorDude HERE IS THE EQUATION.. But you are obviously no biologist as you claim, so I doubt you would even understand it. CO2 + H2O + light !’ 6 (CH2O) + O2
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. " BWAAAAHHAAAAHAAAAAA !!!!!! YOU ARE A COMPLETE FOOL!!!! Prove to the world HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHHAAAA
@DrMotorDude Still waiting for you to prove to the entire world Hydrocarbons are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY. Please.. the whole world is anxiously awaiting your kindergarten level scientific insight. You will revolutionize science through proving to everyone on the planet that hydrocarbons are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY. PLEASE GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT I SAY AGAIN!
@geosylvatelopor Since you never studied organic chemistry I'm going to have to go over your head, mkay? nucleophilic addition to a carbonyl, oxydation reaction followed by dehydration reaction. As I said before, oil CAN AND HAS BEEN made in a laboratory. Chemo-autotrophic bacteria at the bottom of the ocean (note there is NO SUNLIGHT there) Now, run along and read it until you understand it.
@wks1978 Explain this: There is an oil well in Texas (USA) called 'Spindletop Field, #2' and a famous photo was taken of it when the oil first gushed. It blew out a million barrels in 10 days....and kept flowing.....for 110 years.... It still produces TODAY! in 2011. WHERE IS THE OIL COMING FROM? You think Spindletop #2 is 'fiction?'
@wks1978 I know who Hubbert was, I actually studied under him. Actually you have lots of reading to do, there are hundreds of 100 yr old wells still producing. I can explain it quite easily. He also made his 'prognostication' in 1956 WITH THE CONDITION "IF current wells have known finite production & we do not find any more productive deposits." He also did not know AT ALL about the UAE, North Sea, Norway, Siberia, Kenai & didn't include the Bakken Formation.
@wks1978 1. I did read what he wrote and you have not. 2. NS oil peaked in '99? really? You're sure about that and USA's peak production? Because FACT STATES otherwise. Since Hubbert's prediction WHICH HE RECANTED BEFORE HE DIED, production has DOUBLED from his predicted peak - again FACT, not fiction or 'perpetual' anything. You really should leave the science to those of us who understand it.
@DrMotorDude Hubbert included discoveries of new oil fields in his modeling. He even predicted how the size of new fields would steadily decrease. He even predicted that extraction efficiency would improve, and that we would return to depleted fields with new and better technologies. His modeling was quite comprehensive.
@garethb1961 REALLY?! So, you're saying he accurately predicted multiple unknown variables? - Not, when I studied under him. What he did NOT know is an order of magnitude greater than what he did know IN 1953&56; Siberia, Kenai, Canada, Williston Basin, UAE, Kuwait, Nigeria, Venezuela, Indonesia, Norway, even Israel in 2011 + ALL hydrocarbon found under crystaline basement formations. Fact is we have DOUBLED production from his predicted peak. True peak is 100+ years later than he predicted.
@wks1978 I have seen that before. I also know ANYone can post ANYthing on Wiki. I was actually there in person and what I saw was no longer active DRILLING but still many active wells in and around Beaumont. If you read the foot notes in the Wiki piece, they have [citation needed] there. That means unconfirmed or not peer reviewed information.
@DrMotorDude LOL. Ok. So Spindletop is a perpetual oil well. Haha. It's funny how all this rubbish only started now we've reached the oil peak. No one was saying this decades ago.
Check out Hubbert's curve for global oil production.
@wks1978 Seriously, look up "Lucas gusher" it has slowed significantly from it's original 100,000 bbl per day in its early days since 1901 but Spindletop field is still productive.
This is a bunch of bullshit. I don't believe 100% of the peak oil apocalypse style stories, but to think that oil is infinite is idiotic. Yes, oil is a natural occurring substance, but it takes so long, that its pointless to consider infinite.
They're always lying about how much oil is out there. I remember 30 years ago National Geographic had an article pretty much saying we would be out of oil in by around 2000. The Alaskan Pipeline was only suppose last for 20 years.....the wellhead pressure of 1500 psi has never gone down! There is just has oil now in that field as there was then. We could easily build 3 or 4 more pipelines. THEY'RE LYING TO YOU .....................AGAIN!!!
Well, taking into consideration that peak oil is a great instrument for the Elite to rise the price and cut consumption it is an interesting idea.
Do not forget that artificial shortage just works their way. Climategate just the same and any independent researcher of all these subjects are being surpressed, threatened, discredited.
So, maybe it's worth thinking out off the box...and just take into account - Who profits from all this? FOLLOW THE MONEY, FOLKS!
For those that do not believe ni Peak Oil, let me tell you one simple fact. Well over half of the oil producing countries have ALREADY peaked, many of them years ago. the US, the UK, Libya, Venezuela, Kuwait, Iran, Indonesia, Iraq, Norway, Argentina, Yemen, Malaysia, Vietnam, Gabon, Egypt, Congo, Australia, India, Oman, Yemen, Uzbekistan, Syria, The list goes on.
But of course there must be another country we havent found yet where oil is regenerating to meet global demand. Perhaps by Santa.
Absolute trash. They are called fossil fuels, because they take 100's of millions's of years to form. Peak Oil, at no point claims that oil will just run out, simply that our demand for oil has grown at an exponetial rate along with production rate, which will slip into decline after peak, and not meet demand from then on after. Oil is not, and has never been a self regenerating compound, and the GLOBAL scientific community has never agreed to the contrary.
It's sad how corrupted science seems to be. Has anyone ever heard a rational discussion about the origin of oil? Climate change? The scientific community has no interest in it's ultimate goal, TRUTH. I believe the true oil problem is the deliberate inefficiency of the internal cumbustion engine. When compared to similar technologies such as the jet engine, the advances aren't there. Simply changing the fuel into a gaseous form before combustion would result in 200 MPG cars.
Abiotic = made by God from God's will alone. It derives from the Latin abiatica, which means "of God's design." No libtard "science" is needed to explain it.
check out the video "Russia proves that peak oil is a misleading scam" they have drilled super deep wells record breaking depths. Your all believing the lies the big oil companies want you to believe. They don't want you to know that there is more than we think there is. They want to drive the price up and up and scare us into thinking its running out. THAT"S A BULLSHIT LIE!!!!!!!!!!! Same as overpopulation do the math the whole world could have 1400 sq feet/ person and live in ontario canada.
@jartherp What incentive do they have to drive the price up indefinitely. At some point people would not be able to afford it and while supply might be infinite demand would drop
To the guy that posted it doesn't matter if it replenshes it's self we are still over peak oil!!! U don't understand what peak oil means if it comes back there is no such thing as peak oil becase we will never run out. Peak mean we can never produce more then peak. But if we stop and it comes back we can them suck out more then we ever have becase of larger pumps so there is no such thing as peak oil!
Though this vid is full of claims (well just one really) it does not offer any explaination of what oil is (if it's not a fossil fuel) and if it does replenish itself, how quickly does it do this. The way I see it if we are using oil faster than it can replenish then peak oil is absolutely true!
@Serouisly What are you talking about? I am not quoting the video, I am quoting you. Who is this guy being interviewed? What are his credentials?
Also, what this guy is saying makes no sense. He's saying geologists call oil a fossil fuel to plant fear in the minds of consumers so they will worry that it could run out. I hardly know anyone who's aware of peak oil or worried about oil running out.
I do not understand why there would be a conspiracy to misidentify oil as a fossil fuel. What difference does it make what the origins are if we are using it up and driving the price up? Helium is not a fossil resource, but it is running out too and the price is going up. No need to make up a story about helium being a fossil fuel to justify a raising price, why bother making the case with oil if it were not true?
Apart from one or two nasty, vitriolic individuals, some very valid points. Shouldnt surprise anyone to learn that its one big con and that the prices are kept artificially high: its the oligarchs' mission to extort the prolateriats.
i have a question....why america is artifically increasing the price of oil when she requires most and only to hand over wealth in the hand of arabs and others....as they donot have lots of reserve...i can not understand the whole politics...
also, organic chemistry includes compounds of Carbon and Hydrogen. The guy interviews said 'Hydrogen, Oxygen and Carbon' which is really a fundamental miss-understanding of chemistry. It tells me he is an old timer that is not highly educated and was grandfathered into jobs.
While I agree that you sometimes need to follow the money, this guys whole argument is about conspiracy and not based in any facts. Just some crackpot trying to sound still important.
there was only one real piece of 'evidence' given in this guys talk. That fossils are not found below ~ 16000ft, yet we drill over 30000. As you move down into the earth, more and more pressure, temp and metals acting as catalysts on organic compounds. It could be that after 16k, there is just too harsh of conditions for uniform forms. Also, oil is a liquid and moreso as its moves deeper into the harsh conditions. It will pool into a sink far below its original source.
Really? Life has been on Earth for a few billion years now, and it may be "self regenerating" but you aren't going to replace 3 billion years of death in 100 years of drilling.
It may be self-regenerating, but it's not regenerating at a pace fast enough to counteract its extraction.
Strictly speaking it's not even self-regenerating, but it is a product of a natural process which takes organic matter (them fossils & stuff) and creates oil through pressure and heat. This same process probably also creates diamonds...
If you need convincing evidence for peak oil, all you need to do is research the United State's history with drilling. The US used to be the largest producer of crude on the planet. Now there are dry wells with rusty pumps all across the country-from Pennsylvania to Texas. The one-time greatest oil producer is now a slave to imported crude. China & Great Britian are also import slaves..as they cannot meet demand within their countries.
@moose11vt Couldn't agree more with that. Personally, I feel that when people try to disput that fact, they sometimes fall back on the old conspiracy crutch to explain it away. I'm all for industrial society, and the quality of life it affords me, but I feel that we are approaching the beginning of the end of it. It was fun.
if it is not the product of biological matter and geologic time, then what is the source? If it simple "self-regenerated" then why do wells now that used to produce thousands of barrels a day produce only 50 now?
Also, crude oil and many oil products are harmful to animals and the environment, and if the supply of oil is unlimited there is no incentive to move away from it in industry. Harvesting other energy sources will improve the world as humans like it, oil tends to muddy things.
I have an explanation! There must be dinosaur world deep below the earth. When these dinosaurs die, their dead bodies go to heaven... and gets locked in the impermeable rocks... rotting & turning into oil. This theory satisfies Christians and Fossil-Fuel believers! Yes... a dinosaur world below that continually replenish our oil wells... that's it! :D
Do 20 minutes of research. Read facts. Abiotic fuel may occur, but has nothing to do with the fossil fuels we tap and use. I am continually unsurprised by the lemming like masses who throw themselves at every hypothesis and fantasy they watch a youtube video about. Let me guess....Geology majors sign a document in blood swearing allegiance to the oil baron's conspiracy. God many of you idiots are idiots.
@prefertosummit abiotic oil is higher in sulfur, can AND IS being used for decades in Russia. Furthermore, abiotic oil cannot just occur, IT OCCURES IN MASSES! 2. ABIOTIC OIL CAN HAVE FOSSIL HINTS!!! Why is that? Micro organisms can occure at this depth leaving fossil hints doesent mean that you need alga structures in order to prove/distinguish between fossil and abiotic fuel. READ data published by nobel prize winners in chemestry (Ahmed H. Zewail, CIT and Dudley Herschbach, Harvard)!
@prefertosummit It takes SIMPLE MATH to understand the principles of demand and supply! Oil shortage means higher prices. Even "idiots" on youtube realize that :-D
@KimIsIll Yes it is just an excuse to raise prices on gas! Funny how they almost had me brain washed thinking we have a shortage of fossil fuels too! Then reality hit trees and dinosaurs! Gulf oil spill??
@prefertosummit we use methane dont we? some hydrocarbon based fuels we use are definatelly of abiogenic origins.. In fact, at the very least there is some abiotic hydorcarbons left over from the formation of the earth.. As you probally know heavenly bodies such as Titan And encledus have hydrocarbon deposits contained within as the result of their formation..proff positive some hydrocarbons at the very least are of abiogenc origins!
@prefertosummit Those 20 minutes of research will be spent on the same lies that this man is trying to discredit. Think about it. Think about the last bad oil leak in the ocean. So many gallons of oil, over a mile under the ocean, so deep that they couldn't figure out how to stop it, and it was "fossils???!!!" Down there and in that abundance??? We aren't idiots. I believe that it is a natural lubricant for the earth. And yes, Geology majors will sign anything to keep their jobs.
Those 20 minutes of research will be spent on the same lies that this man is trying to discredit. Think about it. Think about the last bad oil leak in the ocean. So many gallons of oil, over a mile under the ocean, so deep that they couldn't figure out how to stop it, and it was "fossils???!!!" Down there and in that abundance??? We aren't idiots. I believe that it is a natural lubricant for the earth. And yes, Geology majors will sign anything to keep their jobs.
Even if oil is abiotic it could still run out. It's a possibility that, yes, oil has been produced deep within the Earth from carbon and hydrogen trapped beneath the Earth's surface eons ago, and yet it is limited in supply. It's physically impossible for there to be an unlimited quantity of oil in the ground because the Earth is not infinite in size. Has a single depleted oil well anywhere in the world replenished itself yet? No? Then shut the fuck up.
@Ataxicabdriver Dittos, why are they drilling for oil in deep water and in polar regions? Why not just go deep on land for God's sake. watch?v=it2VIrtkXac
There are wells as long as 30 000 feet, but these are all horizontal wells. The total vertical depth is not even half that number. This only goes to show the bullshit in the whole abioatic oil theory.
@SEK4110 The depth is usually measured from the RKB (MD). The total vertical (TVD) is never as deep as 30 000 ft when drilling for oil. If there are many wells this deep you should have no problems to come up with examples.
@Siddis33 Horizontal wells?!?! Gotta do more research, pard. SG-3 in Russia is 40,000 feet DEEP (as in straight down). Ask yourself: why didn't bacteria break down dinosaur remains over hundreds of years?
@Siddis33 I stand corrected in the matter of wells, and I agree that oil is not dinosaur remains. I know bacteria cannot break down oil, but my reference was to the remains on the surface. I am not home-schooled, but rather youtube schooled. It's just a matter of finding the "right" teachers.
@6cansshort As far as I know, the amount of oil on surface is extremely small. What you probably think of is tar which is the heaviest and the most unbiogradable elements of crude oil. All the lighter compounds have evaporated and been eaten by bacteria long time ago.
@6cansshort The tar in the tar sands is generally not at the surface. It is usually hundreds of feet down where it is protected from the sun and erosion. The transportation of oxygen down to the tar is very limited. Also, tar is about as bio-gradable as plastic, so it will take millions and millions of years for the tar to decompose.
@Siddis33 In speaking of the "remains", I was referring not to oil/tar remains but rather to dinosaur remains. That part of my post was a rhetorical question directed at those who would believe that dinosaur remains eventually become oil, which I do not believe to be the case. Thx for your enlightening info.
@6cansshort this is my comment i sent to siddis33, who is an ass and tries to tell people they are bullshitting. Father = Drill Rig Operator. It is real.
Z-11 well is just one of many wells dug past 30,000 feet. Exxon drilled it in russia just a couple years ago. 37,016 feet. Over seven miles deep. Also use total measured depth it makes more sense.
@Siddis33 yes my father was a rig oper. and he said these wells do go down to past 30,000 feet. The drills do not travel this far down but other well measuring equipment goes down to survey the well to see about how much oil is down there. Some are like ponds and small lakes deep beneath the Earth. even he questions that this stuff is the product of dead life.
@Siddis33 Father = Drill Rig Operator. It is real.
Z-11 well is just one of many wells dug past 30,000 feet. Exxon drilled it in russia just a couple years ago. 37,016 feet. Over seven miles deep. Also use total measured depth it makes more sense.
@Siddis33 Father = Drill Rig Operator. It is real.
Z-11 well is just one of many wells dug past 30,000 feet. Exxon drilled it in russia just a couple years ago. 37,016 feet. Over seven miles deep. Also use total measured depth it makes more sense.
@Microverse1 So try to come up with an example of an oil producing well that is that deep. If tthe wells existed, the information should be all over the internet.
@Siddis33 Look, rather than hold your tender little hand through this scary process, i will point you in the direction of a search engine called google. I even double checked it myself, it will take you less than 5 seconds if you know how to use it. Please dont respond by pretending that the wells are horizontally drilled and the depth is actually the length because it isnt. Actually, dont respond at all, I am really not interested in debating this. You are just wrong.
@slave7 The z-11 is an extended reach well. It doesn't count. The others examples you site are only the maximum drilling range of different rigs. There are deep wells, like the Tiber well. But what wells is Fletcher referring to that were drilled before he died on June 5th 2001?
@Siddis33 Not sure. Also, I'm not sure where you stand on this, but I will put my hat in the ring and say, for the record, that I believe the world is older than 6000 years and that oil is not dead dinosaurs.
I don't dispute that there are wells over 35000 ft. So what, that's not the issue. Please, come up with an example of a well that has been drilled vertically to a depth in the order of what Fletcher claims was being drilled at the time of the interview. I am sorry that I have to narrow the criteria, but I get too much BS.
@socceric17 Fletcher ,the guy in the video, was not talking about the Tiber well. He died 8 years before it was drilled. It is an exploration well were they drill deeper than the reservoirs to survey the underlying formations. And you can subtract the water depth of more than 4000ft. Anyway, it does not matter because it is drilled in the lower tertiary, which means that the sediments are younger than 65 billion years. So, Fletcher was lying.
"but these are all horizontal wells...bullshit in the whole abioatic oil theory."
Russia disagrees with you, as they are the worlds leading oil producer now... the core of the concept is whether or not, decreassed pressure adjacent to volcanic outgassing areas replenish themselves through the chemistry involved, if you analyze mafic lava's outgasing I bet you it's quite similar in makeup to deep oil reserves...Also, you refer to it as a theory, so you agree there's evidence for it?
@WoodlandRavah So Russia disagrees with me. I don't think so. Russia produces oil from wells that are in compliance with the accepted theory of the origin of oil. To claim otherwise is only in compliance with the origin of wild conspiracy theories. BTW what happened with all the micro-organisms that were buried in sediments millions of years ago, if they didn't turn into oil of gas? It would be fun to see if you can come up with a conspiracy theory for that.
"BTW what happened with all the micro-organisms that were buried in sediments millions of years ago, if they didn't turn into oil of gas?"-u
I'm not saying they dont have the potential for that, I'm saying that you clearly dont think that the Earth gives off fumes... Despite being relativly volcanic and Often violent when the volatile chemicals within it are released to dramatically reduced pressure, Mafic Lava/pyroplastic lava... [Vesuvius]
@WoodlandRavah I know that lava gives off fumes, much of which originates from recycled sediments. But there is a massive difference between looking at lava giving off gases at the surface, and rocks giving off volatile compounds under pressure at 30 000 psi. In order for concluding the abiotic theory to be of any significance one needs to explain how molecules can diffuse through solid rock and migrate to the surface.
"In order for concluding the abiotic theory to be of any significance one needs to explain how molecules can diffuse through solid rock and migrate to the surface. "
The deepest mines on Earth have come a little to close to the mantle, the closer you get, the hotter it gets, rock becomes putty at high enough temps, the deepest drilling operation on Earth could'nt go any deeper without melting the bit, to say that gas and organics cant difuse over time through that is absurd.
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roboeco 1 week ago
It makes no sense to just shout down the theory without reasoning. It is quite obvious that the price of oil is now set by a cartel, and has been for a long time. The depth argument is also interesting. The nazis made synthetic crude oil from coal, which is dead organic matter.
The peak oil idea as been floated several times over the last 50 years, only to be frustrated by another huge find.
Now a Cartel controls all oil exploration, we have peak oil. Coincidence? Interesting topic!
wjestick 4 weeks ago
Dont worry, God will help us.....
storkyloo 1 month ago
Another bullshit conspiracy theory.
grundgemonster 1 month ago
"Abiotic oil" is a scientific fairy tail; once upon a time, deep within the crust of the earth, unsaturated carbon and molecular hydrogen valiantly joined forces and for the first time in the universe the second law of thermodynamics was shattered. The End!
MrPentatonicScale 1 month ago 2
@MrPentatonicScale Nice reply, that's a typical response from someone who is ignorant and really can't back up his own opinion. Americans are idiots. The saddest part about this argument is that fossil fuels have not been proven. Like evolution they are both still theories. Instead of getting angry, why not be intelligent and debate the other side with facts. Either way, it is a theory so until you make it fact stop making yourself look bad. Russia teaches the Abiotic theory
DoneDiddit 4 weeks ago
@DoneDiddit first of all Americans are not idiots, here are some facts: we use plants and algae to produce semi-synthetic hydrocarbons, not rocks, let me know when you guys can set rocks (mostly oxygen and silicon) on fire and I'll pull a monkey out of my ass.
Abiotic oil theory sucks, even youtube's spell checker doesn't like the word abiotic
MrPentatonicScale 3 weeks ago
@MrPentatonicScale Great response that really hits right at the issue. So convincing of absolutely nothing. Check out how deep oil is drilled at please and think about it for a little while. Let me know if you need help...Oil like diamonds are only valuable if they are scarce. It's about money. I don't know what you mean by you guys... I'm American. This country is filled with ignorant people who believe everything this terrible education system has to offer.
DoneDiddit 3 weeks ago
This is bunk. There was not theory of peak oil until 1950's...and it was a fringe concept by Dr. Hubbert at that time. It was never taken seriously until the 1970's when the USA peaked and has ever since declined in production even with all new finds and new production.
And it was not taken seriously until the 2000's when the prices ran up.
The USA consumes 20.5 Million Barrel. We produced 10.5 Million at our height in the 70's. We now produce less than 5 Million.
johnnibarger 1 month ago 3
@johnnibarger that's irrelavent
imstupid4114 1 month ago
it's very possible
garysingh101 1 month ago
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DrMotorDudes original post:
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. "
STILL WAITING.. COME ON PROVE IT!!! YOU BETTER CITE SOME EVIDENCE OF THAT.. BYW, I NEVER FOUND YOUR MISSING 1988 CITATION... YOU KNOW WHY? YOU LIED AND IT DOES NOT EXIST BBWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
DrMotorDudes original post:
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. "
Well COME ON AND PROVE IT TO THE WORLD! DEFEND YOUR STATEMENT!!!!!
YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND LET THE ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY SEE YOUR REVOLUTION IN PETRO GEOLOGY! COME ON MAN< WE ARE WAITING!!!!!!!!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
METHANE HYDRATES= BIOGENIC ORIGIN= STORED SOLAR ENERGY =MARINE SEDIMENTS=STORED SOLAR ENERGY
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor So you expect me to believe sunlight and plants are the universal origin of carbon? You're as lost as a football bat.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude You are a compete fool. Your original statement is posted below:
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. "
See, you are changing the subject. PROVE THAT HYDROCARBON HAS NEVER BEEN STORED SOLAR ENERY
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude You really love red herrings, dont you. I NEVER SAID SUNLIGHT AND PLANTS ARE THE UNIVERSAL ORIGIN OF CARBON, IDIOT. YOU SAID THAT>
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor See my Earlier post on TITAN. AGAIN PROVE TO ME THAT THAT HYDROCARBON HAS NEVER BEEN STORED SOLAR ENERGY AS YOU STATED IN YOUR ORIGINAL POST
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
HA HA HA RUN FOR THE HILLS!!! YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLE CONCEPT OF ENERGY STORAGE!!!!! AND YOU CLAIM TO BE A BIOLOGIST....??? HA HA YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND PHOTOSYNTHESIS, BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
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DrMotorDude..
Your direct quote"
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. " BWAAAAHHAAAAHAAAAAA !!!!!! YOU ARE A COMPLETE FOOL!!!! Prove to the world HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHHAAAA
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
"LOOSE" EVERYTIME HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
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HA HA HA you obviously are no biologist. I can provide a government academic email address where I work. Now lets see you do the same. You cannot , Because it is blatantly clear you are no biologist.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
You are no biologist I guarantee it. Or you would know what hydrocarbons and Biomass are... so please, do not make yourself look anymore foolish than you already do by claiming you are a biologist. Any Biology 101 class learns the origin of Biomass and hydrocarbons, so nice try kiddo...
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
You people do not have a clue. Abiotic oil has been proven false. The oil in a well has a slight rise in level because of natural compaction lift. Nobody here can cite any geological processes that can make abiotinc oil. and I am sorry, we can synthesize organic molecules in a lab similar to abiotic oil, none of you seem to be aware of is that fossil fuel is STORED SOLAR ENERGY. please, someone post one detailed explanation how "idiotic" aboitic oil can magically appear. from the Mantle.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
This guy is a Kook, Totally wrong, this video is ridiculous.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor Takes one to know one I guess.
semiLivedj 2 months ago
Oil was $20 a barrel in 2003 just prior to the Bush invasion of Iraq. I am puzzled by the price of $100 oil in 2011, given the plentiful supply. I suspect there are conspiratorial elements at work, but that is only one hypothesis.
390bullitt1968 2 months ago
@390bullitt1968 It's called 'supply and demand.' The WHOLE world uses oil and demand goes on OUTSIDE & regardless of Bush, Obama or Iraq.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
So what is the abioigenetic process?! This video is about what oil isn't (according to the speaker) but not what it is.
garethb1961 3 months ago
@garethb1961 It's partially based on carbon dating. Various oils radio-carbon date to illogical/inexplicable ages; either recently living material or older than the accepted age of Earth, itself. Oil can be 'manufactured' in a laboratory without taking millions of years. There is some evidence this is happening in nature in Gulf of California, opposing current biogenesis theory. People also say it's not possible, even harboring contempt for what they don't understand or want to acknowledge.
DrMotorDude 3 months ago
@DrMotorDude Cite the evidence in a peer reviewed journal please. You cannot just claim there is evidence for "idiotic" abiotic oil. Next you are going to try to convince us Earth is only 6,000 years old.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor FIRST I am not the one who claimed ANYTHING - RE-READ my RESPONSE to someone else. SECOND people with religious fervor not unlike yours, use 'peer reviewed' and 'idiotic' in the same sentence. If you need an explanation of carbon dating, ask the science teacher at the middle school you currently attend. It was published in "AIChE" in 1988. BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude Are you out of your mind? Fossil fuel is STORED SOLAR ENERGY, . Plant matter is derived and constructed as a carbon based organic life from solar energy. The plant dies, rapid burial to depth and pressure occur, and that is how we get petroleum. How can you sit here and say Hydrocarbons are not stored solar energy? Without SOL they would never exist. You are the one who needs to take a couple of 400 level petro-geology courses.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor 1. You assume plants are the sole source of HC deposits - WRONG. I'll give you a hint, junior look up 'methane hydrate.' 2. Never debate 'chicken or egg' with a biologist - you'll loose every time.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude WRONG! Only on Titan can such processes occur such as you are postulating.. Oh, By the way, I am a planetary geologist and work at the National Solar observatory in Tucson. Oh Please... Prove to the world Hydrocarbons are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY. By the way, You "citation" from way back in 1988 does not exist. It is not there on the website you posted.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude The deposits you refer to are only a very MINOR percent because we do not have the same processes as TITAN. Sorry, but you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude HA HA HA you obviously are no bilogist. I can provide a government academic email address where I work. Now lets see you do the same.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude YOU CANNOT EVEN SPELL CORRECTLY!!! IT IS "LOSE EVERY TIME, NOT "LOSE" EVERY TIME. YOU LACK BASIC VOCABULARY SKILLS! AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE YOU ARE A BIOLOGIST!!! FAIL!!!!!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude HA HA HA.. All BIOMASS is stores solar energy. Oil is Biomass. You complete lack of grasp on the subject is laughable. you can say anything you want you are the one who is in middle school if you think biomass and hydrocarbons are not forms of stored solar energy. You are clueless actually, and you should stop now before you make a complete fool of yourself.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor WRONG - YOU FAIL biology.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
Wrong.. You are not a Biologist.. PROVE TO THE WORLD THAT HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY>>> YOU CANT!!!!!! PROVE IT!!!!!!
GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT!!!!!!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude YOU FAIL ... I really do not want to make you look like a complete idiot... but you are doing that to yourself. Everyone reading this google HYDROCARBONS STORED SOLAR ENERGY. So, I am not trying to be a d-bag, but everyone is going to see the google results, and you are going to look like a fool... so I suggest you start running for the hills while you still can, or change you username BWAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!!!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude Google "origin of Methane hydrate" what do you get????
BIOGENIC ORIGINS=STORED SOLAR ENERGY .... BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA
BETTER START RUNNING FOR THE HILLS MR.'SELF PROCLAIMED BIOLOGIST"
BWAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor Wrong again, son. Chemoautotrophic organisms do NOT rely on ANY sunlight by their very definition of existence. "Chemo" - NOT "PHOTO" Get it, kid? You not only fail, you lose.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude Prove to me you are a biologist, because whatever place trained you obviosly should not be in the business of certifying anyone in biology,, you have constantly misapplied terms, and changed the subject of the original discussion. So I will give yu again several days so you can research answers and then do copy/pastes from wikipedia while I sit here and watch you do the duck and weave and prove to me fossil fuels are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude NObody but an Idiot kid would use the term "fail" you have got to be younger than 25 years old.
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude HA HA my younger son (who is 22) uses that stupid phrase.. you are such a pathetic phony... now go clean your room, idiot. you arent fooling anyone. You have not even completed first semester of chemistry class judging by your idiotic posts here. you must have gotten no better than a C.. BTW what University are you attending, I need to have a word with your instructor. GO AHEAD, POST YOUR UNIVERSITY!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude HA HA HA HA YOU JUST SHOWED YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT BIOGENIC MEANS BWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude This is so funny.. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and google "ENERGY STORAGE". I will be happy to debate you all you want on this subject, because science is on my side, and your misconceptions are going to take you down. so sit here and tell the world that Biomass and Hydrocarbons are not forms of stored solar energy.. give it your best shot!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor Tell us exactly HOW EM spectrum is somehow a hydrocarbon molecule?
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude You are such a phony... The SUN is what made the hydrocarbons to begin with. This is BIOLOGY 101 Dude, so do not site here and claim you are a biologist, because with all Organic life, the SUN is the energy source. but quit changing the subject. PROVE TO THE WHOLE WORLD THAT HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY... YOU CANNOT DO IT!!!!!! YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT BIOMASS IS BUILD FROM SOLAR ENERGY!!! YOU ARE A FRAUD!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude HERE IS THE EQUATION.. But you are obviously no biologist as you claim, so I doubt you would even understand it. CO2 + H2O + light !’ 6 (CH2O) + O2
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude Your direct quote"
"BTW, hydrocarbon is NOT, nor was it EVER "stored solar energy" Solar energy doesn't come in the form of a molecule. " BWAAAAHHAAAAHAAAAAA !!!!!! YOU ARE A COMPLETE FOOL!!!! Prove to the world HYDROCARBONS ARE NOT STORED SOLAR ENERGY BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHHAAAA
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@DrMotorDude Still waiting for you to prove to the entire world Hydrocarbons are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY. Please.. the whole world is anxiously awaiting your kindergarten level scientific insight. You will revolutionize science through proving to everyone on the planet that hydrocarbons are not STORED SOLAR ENERGY. PLEASE GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT I SAY AGAIN!
geosylvatelopor 2 months ago
@geosylvatelopor Since you never studied organic chemistry I'm going to have to go over your head, mkay? nucleophilic addition to a carbonyl, oxydation reaction followed by dehydration reaction. As I said before, oil CAN AND HAS BEEN made in a laboratory. Chemo-autotrophic bacteria at the bottom of the ocean (note there is NO SUNLIGHT there) Now, run along and read it until you understand it.
DrMotorDude 2 months ago
Damn, I need to drill my own oil well. Then I can get off the grid.
Topazman12 3 months ago
FOSSIL oil = EXTINCT coelocanth.
DrMotorDude 4 months ago
This is pure science fiction.
wks1978 4 months ago
@wks1978 Explain this: There is an oil well in Texas (USA) called 'Spindletop Field, #2' and a famous photo was taken of it when the oil first gushed. It blew out a million barrels in 10 days....and kept flowing.....for 110 years.... It still produces TODAY! in 2011. WHERE IS THE OIL COMING FROM? You think Spindletop #2 is 'fiction?'
DrMotorDude 4 months ago
@DrMotorDude Well that perpetual oil field must be only one of its kind. Every other oil field runs out.
You can't explain why US oil output peaked in 1970, as correctly predicted by M. King Hubbert.
wks1978 4 months ago
@wks1978 I know who Hubbert was, I actually studied under him. Actually you have lots of reading to do, there are hundreds of 100 yr old wells still producing. I can explain it quite easily. He also made his 'prognostication' in 1956 WITH THE CONDITION "IF current wells have known finite production & we do not find any more productive deposits." He also did not know AT ALL about the UAE, North Sea, Norway, Siberia, Kenai & didn't include the Bakken Formation.
DrMotorDude 4 months ago
@DrMotorDude Well you obviously don't agree with anything he wrote.
North sea oil peaked in 1999 by the way. US oil peaked in 1970. That's one thing Hubbert was spot on about.
If this magic spindletop oil well is producing perpetually why did US oil peak in 1970?
wks1978 4 months ago
@wks1978 1. I did read what he wrote and you have not. 2. NS oil peaked in '99? really? You're sure about that and USA's peak production? Because FACT STATES otherwise. Since Hubbert's prediction WHICH HE RECANTED BEFORE HE DIED, production has DOUBLED from his predicted peak - again FACT, not fiction or 'perpetual' anything. You really should leave the science to those of us who understand it.
DrMotorDude 4 months ago
@DrMotorDude Sigh. You don't know enough about me to make ridiculous judgemental statements like that.
Science doesn't come into it, purely statistics. Never mind you make up your own if it makes you feel better.
wks1978 4 months ago
@wks1978 "Science doesn't come into it" Only an arrogant Limey would continue to argue against fact.
DrMotorDude 4 months ago
@DrMotorDude Hubbert included discoveries of new oil fields in his modeling. He even predicted how the size of new fields would steadily decrease. He even predicted that extraction efficiency would improve, and that we would return to depleted fields with new and better technologies. His modeling was quite comprehensive.
garethb1961 3 months ago
@garethb1961 REALLY?! So, you're saying he accurately predicted multiple unknown variables? - Not, when I studied under him. What he did NOT know is an order of magnitude greater than what he did know IN 1953&56; Siberia, Kenai, Canada, Williston Basin, UAE, Kuwait, Nigeria, Venezuela, Indonesia, Norway, even Israel in 2011 + ALL hydrocarbon found under crystaline basement formations. Fact is we have DOUBLED production from his predicted peak. True peak is 100+ years later than he predicted.
DrMotorDude 3 months ago
@DrMotorDude Check out the Wikipedia article on Spindletop. It claims the field is no longer active.
wks1978 4 months ago
@wks1978 I have seen that before. I also know ANYone can post ANYthing on Wiki. I was actually there in person and what I saw was no longer active DRILLING but still many active wells in and around Beaumont. If you read the foot notes in the Wiki piece, they have [citation needed] there. That means unconfirmed or not peer reviewed information.
DrMotorDude 4 months ago
@DrMotorDude LOL. Ok. So Spindletop is a perpetual oil well. Haha. It's funny how all this rubbish only started now we've reached the oil peak. No one was saying this decades ago.
Check out Hubbert's curve for global oil production.
wks1978 4 months ago
@wks1978 Seriously, look up "Lucas gusher" it has slowed significantly from it's original 100,000 bbl per day in its early days since 1901 but Spindletop field is still productive.
dieselscience 4 months ago
explain BIO-FUEL buddy ?
BrianMc469 4 months ago
This is a bunch of bullshit. I don't believe 100% of the peak oil apocalypse style stories, but to think that oil is infinite is idiotic. Yes, oil is a natural occurring substance, but it takes so long, that its pointless to consider infinite.
HDaviator 4 months ago
what a load of crap!why did then so many wells dry up in the end??check Baku and Texas for instance.
sccooty 5 months ago
@sccooty well fish regen to but if you kill all the fish they can't regen.
strattonjodi 5 months ago
They're always lying about how much oil is out there. I remember 30 years ago National Geographic had an article pretty much saying we would be out of oil in by around 2000. The Alaskan Pipeline was only suppose last for 20 years.....the wellhead pressure of 1500 psi has never gone down! There is just has oil now in that field as there was then. We could easily build 3 or 4 more pipelines. THEY'RE LYING TO YOU .....................AGAIN!!!
clint525fuller 5 months ago
Well, taking into consideration that peak oil is a great instrument for the Elite to rise the price and cut consumption it is an interesting idea.
Do not forget that artificial shortage just works their way. Climategate just the same and any independent researcher of all these subjects are being surpressed, threatened, discredited.
So, maybe it's worth thinking out off the box...and just take into account - Who profits from all this? FOLLOW THE MONEY, FOLKS!
joggler66 6 months ago in playlist Peak Oil
Tar is natural, I don't see how oil can't be..
MrChimochay 7 months ago
I work in oil and gas and some of the comments on here are breath-takingly stupid.
Don't believe everything you read the government tells you...
WatchRyder 7 months ago
For those that do not believe ni Peak Oil, let me tell you one simple fact. Well over half of the oil producing countries have ALREADY peaked, many of them years ago. the US, the UK, Libya, Venezuela, Kuwait, Iran, Indonesia, Iraq, Norway, Argentina, Yemen, Malaysia, Vietnam, Gabon, Egypt, Congo, Australia, India, Oman, Yemen, Uzbekistan, Syria, The list goes on.
But of course there must be another country we havent found yet where oil is regenerating to meet global demand. Perhaps by Santa.
moonsugar1 7 months ago
Absolute trash. They are called fossil fuels, because they take 100's of millions's of years to form. Peak Oil, at no point claims that oil will just run out, simply that our demand for oil has grown at an exponetial rate along with production rate, which will slip into decline after peak, and not meet demand from then on after. Oil is not, and has never been a self regenerating compound, and the GLOBAL scientific community has never agreed to the contrary.
moonsugar1 7 months ago
A rose by any other name would still poison the oceans.
diapedysis 7 months ago
This video exposes the eco-socialist Gaia conspiracy to rob hard working Americans of God-given V-8 power and tax them into the poorhouse ...
johnnecron 7 months ago
Look closely- it says this was uploaded on April 1st by Grampa Simpson---
keltyk 8 months ago
It's sad how corrupted science seems to be. Has anyone ever heard a rational discussion about the origin of oil? Climate change? The scientific community has no interest in it's ultimate goal, TRUTH. I believe the true oil problem is the deliberate inefficiency of the internal cumbustion engine. When compared to similar technologies such as the jet engine, the advances aren't there. Simply changing the fuel into a gaseous form before combustion would result in 200 MPG cars.
rmstorms 8 months ago
Hmmm? Did they purposely plant the APOCALYPSE book on the shelf in the background as a subliminal message?
MrLittletomdj 9 months ago 2
@MrLittletomdj Wow, I never even noticed that
SEK4110 9 months ago
@SEK4110 9:35 "There's a dollar sign behind almost everything." What a liar, I don't believe that bull$hit.
hayesism 7 months ago
@topographicoceans11 Hes a man smarter than you
Serouisly 10 months ago
I was expecting something lame or speculative or old, but yeah that was mind-blowing
Zareste 10 months ago
Abiotic = made by God from God's will alone. It derives from the Latin abiatica, which means "of God's design." No libtard "science" is needed to explain it.
HorseCents 11 months ago 2
@HorseCents abiotic means absent of life of living things.
undeadpresident 6 months ago
check out the video "Russia proves that peak oil is a misleading scam" they have drilled super deep wells record breaking depths. Your all believing the lies the big oil companies want you to believe. They don't want you to know that there is more than we think there is. They want to drive the price up and up and scare us into thinking its running out. THAT"S A BULLSHIT LIE!!!!!!!!!!! Same as overpopulation do the math the whole world could have 1400 sq feet/ person and live in ontario canada.
jartherp 11 months ago
@jartherp What incentive do they have to drive the price up indefinitely. At some point people would not be able to afford it and while supply might be infinite demand would drop
IdleOats 8 months ago
To the guy that posted it doesn't matter if it replenshes it's self we are still over peak oil!!! U don't understand what peak oil means if it comes back there is no such thing as peak oil becase we will never run out. Peak mean we can never produce more then peak. But if we stop and it comes back we can them suck out more then we ever have becase of larger pumps so there is no such thing as peak oil!
JOHNNYSschool 11 months ago
Though this vid is full of claims (well just one really) it does not offer any explaination of what oil is (if it's not a fossil fuel) and if it does replenish itself, how quickly does it do this. The way I see it if we are using oil faster than it can replenish then peak oil is absolutely true!
Does anyone have any answers here???
amandine512 1 year ago
@amandine512 Abiotic-self regenerating compound, 9-10 years, peak oil is false.
Serouisly 10 months ago
@Serouisly Please back up your claim of 9-10 years with evidence. Where did you get this number?
Btw, peak oil was in 2006.
amandine512 6 months ago
@amandine512 watch the damn video before you quote it
Serouisly 6 months ago
@Serouisly What are you talking about? I am not quoting the video, I am quoting you. Who is this guy being interviewed? What are his credentials?
amandine512 6 months ago
@Serouisly What are you talking about? I am not quoting the video, I am quoting you. Who is this guy being interviewed? What are his credentials?
Also, what this guy is saying makes no sense. He's saying geologists call oil a fossil fuel to plant fear in the minds of consumers so they will worry that it could run out. I hardly know anyone who's aware of peak oil or worried about oil running out.
amandine512 6 months ago
I do not understand why there would be a conspiracy to misidentify oil as a fossil fuel. What difference does it make what the origins are if we are using it up and driving the price up? Helium is not a fossil resource, but it is running out too and the price is going up. No need to make up a story about helium being a fossil fuel to justify a raising price, why bother making the case with oil if it were not true?
coolgreyoneabby 1 year ago
why can't fossils exist below a certain level?
why do (most) oil wells eventually dry up?
SounzNice 1 year ago
Apart from one or two nasty, vitriolic individuals, some very valid points. Shouldnt surprise anyone to learn that its one big con and that the prices are kept artificially high: its the oligarchs' mission to extort the prolateriats.
NOLLANDCHAY 1 year ago
i have a question....why america is artifically increasing the price of oil when she requires most and only to hand over wealth in the hand of arabs and others....as they donot have lots of reserve...i can not understand the whole politics...
ujjwalsaha1980 1 year ago
also, organic chemistry includes compounds of Carbon and Hydrogen. The guy interviews said 'Hydrogen, Oxygen and Carbon' which is really a fundamental miss-understanding of chemistry. It tells me he is an old timer that is not highly educated and was grandfathered into jobs.
While I agree that you sometimes need to follow the money, this guys whole argument is about conspiracy and not based in any facts. Just some crackpot trying to sound still important.
bdhcarbon 1 year ago
there was only one real piece of 'evidence' given in this guys talk. That fossils are not found below ~ 16000ft, yet we drill over 30000. As you move down into the earth, more and more pressure, temp and metals acting as catalysts on organic compounds. It could be that after 16k, there is just too harsh of conditions for uniform forms. Also, oil is a liquid and moreso as its moves deeper into the harsh conditions. It will pool into a sink far below its original source.
bdhcarbon 1 year ago
Really? Life has been on Earth for a few billion years now, and it may be "self regenerating" but you aren't going to replace 3 billion years of death in 100 years of drilling.
SingleSpiral 1 year ago
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SingleSpiral 1 year ago
It may be self-regenerating, but it's not regenerating at a pace fast enough to counteract its extraction.
Strictly speaking it's not even self-regenerating, but it is a product of a natural process which takes organic matter (them fossils & stuff) and creates oil through pressure and heat. This same process probably also creates diamonds...
tovadaq 1 year ago
If you need convincing evidence for peak oil, all you need to do is research the United State's history with drilling. The US used to be the largest producer of crude on the planet. Now there are dry wells with rusty pumps all across the country-from Pennsylvania to Texas. The one-time greatest oil producer is now a slave to imported crude. China & Great Britian are also import slaves..as they cannot meet demand within their countries.
moose11vt 1 year ago
@moose11vt Couldn't agree more with that. Personally, I feel that when people try to disput that fact, they sometimes fall back on the old conspiracy crutch to explain it away. I'm all for industrial society, and the quality of life it affords me, but I feel that we are approaching the beginning of the end of it. It was fun.
activedentalfloss 1 year ago
is the blood of the earth!
sodasoap 1 year ago
if it is not the product of biological matter and geologic time, then what is the source? If it simple "self-regenerated" then why do wells now that used to produce thousands of barrels a day produce only 50 now?
Also, crude oil and many oil products are harmful to animals and the environment, and if the supply of oil is unlimited there is no incentive to move away from it in industry. Harvesting other energy sources will improve the world as humans like it, oil tends to muddy things.
canisdormit 1 year ago
The man never stated what he thought oil actualy is in this video. Oh well.
NephilimFree 1 year ago
@NephilimFree ah well, read "deep hot bioshere : the myth of fossil fuels". this follws up on your question.
nic0245 1 year ago
Interesting clip, but I swear to God, I cannot stand listening to this guy breathe in through his nose.
chuckyko 1 year ago
I have an explanation! There must be dinosaur world deep below the earth. When these dinosaurs die, their dead bodies go to heaven... and gets locked in the impermeable rocks... rotting & turning into oil. This theory satisfies Christians and Fossil-Fuel believers! Yes... a dinosaur world below that continually replenish our oil wells... that's it! :D
flameblitz 1 year ago
Do 20 minutes of research. Read facts. Abiotic fuel may occur, but has nothing to do with the fossil fuels we tap and use. I am continually unsurprised by the lemming like masses who throw themselves at every hypothesis and fantasy they watch a youtube video about. Let me guess....Geology majors sign a document in blood swearing allegiance to the oil baron's conspiracy. God many of you idiots are idiots.
prefertosummit 1 year ago 10
@prefertosummit abiotic oil is higher in sulfur, can AND IS being used for decades in Russia. Furthermore, abiotic oil cannot just occur, IT OCCURES IN MASSES! 2. ABIOTIC OIL CAN HAVE FOSSIL HINTS!!! Why is that? Micro organisms can occure at this depth leaving fossil hints doesent mean that you need alga structures in order to prove/distinguish between fossil and abiotic fuel. READ data published by nobel prize winners in chemestry (Ahmed H. Zewail, CIT and Dudley Herschbach, Harvard)!
KimIsIll 1 year ago
@KimIsIll Somehow I find it difficult to trust the scientific opinion of someone who can't spell chemistry.
planeshaperman 1 year ago
@prefertosummit It takes SIMPLE MATH to understand the principles of demand and supply! Oil shortage means higher prices. Even "idiots" on youtube realize that :-D
KimIsIll 1 year ago
@KimIsIll Yes it is just an excuse to raise prices on gas! Funny how they almost had me brain washed thinking we have a shortage of fossil fuels too! Then reality hit trees and dinosaurs! Gulf oil spill??
MsShayNic 1 year ago
@prefertosummit we use methane dont we? some hydrocarbon based fuels we use are definatelly of abiogenic origins.. In fact, at the very least there is some abiotic hydorcarbons left over from the formation of the earth.. As you probally know heavenly bodies such as Titan And encledus have hydrocarbon deposits contained within as the result of their formation..proff positive some hydrocarbons at the very least are of abiogenc origins!
steviewonder417 8 months ago
@prefertosummit Those 20 minutes of research will be spent on the same lies that this man is trying to discredit. Think about it. Think about the last bad oil leak in the ocean. So many gallons of oil, over a mile under the ocean, so deep that they couldn't figure out how to stop it, and it was "fossils???!!!" Down there and in that abundance??? We aren't idiots. I believe that it is a natural lubricant for the earth. And yes, Geology majors will sign anything to keep their jobs.
jbalt90 8 months ago
Those 20 minutes of research will be spent on the same lies that this man is trying to discredit. Think about it. Think about the last bad oil leak in the ocean. So many gallons of oil, over a mile under the ocean, so deep that they couldn't figure out how to stop it, and it was "fossils???!!!" Down there and in that abundance??? We aren't idiots. I believe that it is a natural lubricant for the earth. And yes, Geology majors will sign anything to keep their jobs.
jbalt90 8 months ago
@prefertosummit Actually...we don't really know where it came from. There are definately biotic markers, but we dont know for sure.
52111centrumcz 7 months ago
if it was continually produced, you wouldn't need to drill for it, you'd use it at the rate it naturally seeps out at the surface.
walter0bz 1 year ago
Even if oil is abiotic it could still run out. It's a possibility that, yes, oil has been produced deep within the Earth from carbon and hydrogen trapped beneath the Earth's surface eons ago, and yet it is limited in supply. It's physically impossible for there to be an unlimited quantity of oil in the ground because the Earth is not infinite in size. Has a single depleted oil well anywhere in the world replenished itself yet? No? Then shut the fuck up.
3Gyro 1 year ago
Lindsey Williams and Abiotic oil bebunked: watch?v=it2VIrtkXac
jimbobubbadj 1 year ago
If oil is abiotic, and it is, that opens the possibility of finding oil on Mars.
Ataxicabdriver 1 year ago
@Ataxicabdriver Dittos, why are they drilling for oil in deep water and in polar regions? Why not just go deep on land for God's sake. watch?v=it2VIrtkXac
jimbobubbadj 1 year ago
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@jimbobubbadj The Russians have done that.
Ataxicabdriver 1 year ago
You are right on. check this out: davesweb(dot)cnchost(dot)com/nwsltr52(dot)html and you will know why they drilled so deep in the Gulf of Mexico
winsonchik 1 year ago
4:40 Where do they drill for oil at 30 000 feet?
There are wells as long as 30 000 feet, but these are all horizontal wells. The total vertical depth is not even half that number. This only goes to show the bullshit in the whole abioatic oil theory.
Siddis33 1 year ago 4
@Siddis33 You think the actual well itself is 30,000 feet? You are ignorant regarding wells.
SEK4110 1 year ago
@SEK4110 The depth is usually measured from the RKB (MD). The total vertical (TVD) is never as deep as 30 000 ft when drilling for oil. If there are many wells this deep you should have no problems to come up with examples.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Dittos!
jimbobubbadj 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Horizontal wells?!?! Gotta do more research, pard. SG-3 in Russia is 40,000 feet DEEP (as in straight down). Ask yourself: why didn't bacteria break down dinosaur remains over hundreds of years?
6cansshort 1 year ago
@6cansshort The SG-3 well was a scientific project with the goal to drill as deep as possible, not to drill for oil. They don't find oil that deep.
Oil is not dinosaur remains. Only very uninformed people believe that. Oil was made from micro-organisms.
Bacteria don't break down oil because there is no oxygen present.
Are you home-schooled or something?
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 I stand corrected in the matter of wells, and I agree that oil is not dinosaur remains. I know bacteria cannot break down oil, but my reference was to the remains on the surface. I am not home-schooled, but rather youtube schooled. It's just a matter of finding the "right" teachers.
6cansshort 1 year ago
@6cansshort As far as I know, the amount of oil on surface is extremely small. What you probably think of is tar which is the heaviest and the most unbiogradable elements of crude oil. All the lighter compounds have evaporated and been eaten by bacteria long time ago.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@6cansshort The tar in the tar sands is generally not at the surface. It is usually hundreds of feet down where it is protected from the sun and erosion. The transportation of oxygen down to the tar is very limited. Also, tar is about as bio-gradable as plastic, so it will take millions and millions of years for the tar to decompose.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 In speaking of the "remains", I was referring not to oil/tar remains but rather to dinosaur remains. That part of my post was a rhetorical question directed at those who would believe that dinosaur remains eventually become oil, which I do not believe to be the case. Thx for your enlightening info.
6cansshort 1 year ago
@6cansshort this is my comment i sent to siddis33, who is an ass and tries to tell people they are bullshitting. Father = Drill Rig Operator. It is real.
Z-11 well is just one of many wells dug past 30,000 feet. Exxon drilled it in russia just a couple years ago. 37,016 feet. Over seven miles deep. Also use total measured depth it makes more sense.
6cansshort is right do your homework siddis33
gatorade420 1 year ago
@Siddis33 yes my father was a rig oper. and he said these wells do go down to past 30,000 feet. The drills do not travel this far down but other well measuring equipment goes down to survey the well to see about how much oil is down there. Some are like ponds and small lakes deep beneath the Earth. even he questions that this stuff is the product of dead life.
gatorade420 1 year ago
@gatorade420 What is a rig operator. That is a job title I have never heard of. What was your fathers real position?
Ask your father what oil wells he knows about that have a TVD (Total Vertical Depth) of more than 30000 ft.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Father = Drill Rig Operator. It is real.
Z-11 well is just one of many wells dug past 30,000 feet. Exxon drilled it in russia just a couple years ago. 37,016 feet. Over seven miles deep. Also use total measured depth it makes more sense.
gatorade420 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Father = Drill Rig Operator. It is real.
Z-11 well is just one of many wells dug past 30,000 feet. Exxon drilled it in russia just a couple years ago. 37,016 feet. Over seven miles deep. Also use total measured depth it makes more sense.
gatorade420 1 year ago
@Siddis33 what the hell are you talking about? >.> wells having a vertical depth of over 35,000 ft have been drilled.
Microverse1 1 year ago
@Microverse1 So try to come up with an example of an oil producing well that is that deep. If tthe wells existed, the information should be all over the internet.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Look, rather than hold your tender little hand through this scary process, i will point you in the direction of a search engine called google. I even double checked it myself, it will take you less than 5 seconds if you know how to use it. Please dont respond by pretending that the wells are horizontally drilled and the depth is actually the length because it isnt. Actually, dont respond at all, I am really not interested in debating this. You are just wrong.
Microverse1 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Deepwater Horizon was at 35,000 ft., Exxon drilled the z-11 to 37,000ft., Cajun Express goes 35,000ft., Deepwater Nautilus 32,600ft, Discoverer Spirit 34,000ft.
slave7 1 year ago
@slave7 The z-11 is an extended reach well. It doesn't count. The others examples you site are only the maximum drilling range of different rigs. There are deep wells, like the Tiber well. But what wells is Fletcher referring to that were drilled before he died on June 5th 2001?
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 Not sure. Also, I'm not sure where you stand on this, but I will put my hat in the ring and say, for the record, that I believe the world is older than 6000 years and that oil is not dead dinosaurs.
slave7 1 year ago
@Siddis33 You serious? There are wells that have a DEPTH of over 35,000ft. Do the research before you start criticizing things you don't understand.
socceric17 1 year ago
I don't dispute that there are wells over 35000 ft. So what, that's not the issue. Please, come up with an example of a well that has been drilled vertically to a depth in the order of what Fletcher claims was being drilled at the time of the interview. I am sorry that I have to narrow the criteria, but I get too much BS.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33 The Deepwater Horizon drilled over 35,ooo ft in depth into the Tiber oil field.
socceric17 1 year ago
@socceric17 Fletcher ,the guy in the video, was not talking about the Tiber well. He died 8 years before it was drilled. It is an exploration well were they drill deeper than the reservoirs to survey the underlying formations. And you can subtract the water depth of more than 4000ft. Anyway, it does not matter because it is drilled in the lower tertiary, which means that the sediments are younger than 65 billion years. So, Fletcher was lying.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33
"but these are all horizontal wells...bullshit in the whole abioatic oil theory."
Russia disagrees with you, as they are the worlds leading oil producer now... the core of the concept is whether or not, decreassed pressure adjacent to volcanic outgassing areas replenish themselves through the chemistry involved, if you analyze mafic lava's outgasing I bet you it's quite similar in makeup to deep oil reserves...Also, you refer to it as a theory, so you agree there's evidence for it?
WoodlandRavah 1 year ago
@WoodlandRavah So Russia disagrees with me. I don't think so. Russia produces oil from wells that are in compliance with the accepted theory of the origin of oil. To claim otherwise is only in compliance with the origin of wild conspiracy theories. BTW what happened with all the micro-organisms that were buried in sediments millions of years ago, if they didn't turn into oil of gas? It would be fun to see if you can come up with a conspiracy theory for that.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33
"BTW what happened with all the micro-organisms that were buried in sediments millions of years ago, if they didn't turn into oil of gas?"-u
I'm not saying they dont have the potential for that, I'm saying that you clearly dont think that the Earth gives off fumes... Despite being relativly volcanic and Often violent when the volatile chemicals within it are released to dramatically reduced pressure, Mafic Lava/pyroplastic lava... [Vesuvius]
WoodlandRavah 1 year ago
@WoodlandRavah I know that lava gives off fumes, much of which originates from recycled sediments. But there is a massive difference between looking at lava giving off gases at the surface, and rocks giving off volatile compounds under pressure at 30 000 psi. In order for concluding the abiotic theory to be of any significance one needs to explain how molecules can diffuse through solid rock and migrate to the surface.
Siddis33 1 year ago
@Siddis33
"In order for concluding the abiotic theory to be of any significance one needs to explain how molecules can diffuse through solid rock and migrate to the surface. "
The deepest mines on Earth have come a little to close to the mantle, the closer you get, the hotter it gets, rock becomes putty at high enough temps, the deepest drilling operation on Earth could'nt go any deeper without melting the bit, to say that gas and organics cant difuse over time through that is absurd.
WoodlandRavah 1 year ago