In the past, I used to love Gould so much and his all interpretations of Bach. Then later on learning about other great pianists, I came to confess that there are more frank, more touchy interpretations. For me now Richter has a feeling, ein Gefühl, something felt in, rather than dictating the piece. This may be related to his assumption about recording. He didnt like recording at all. You may only record in your mind in your heart ,it is a fact. I am lucky to be Richters contemporary.
JohnEBPiano the venue in fact was the swedish embassy residence in Mexico City , about 28 years ago.
Eight years later I finally decided to give up. playing & sold my Yamaha 1/2 grand ( 1.85m ) Smart move on my part ! That same evening I also performed a 4 hands hungarian dance by Dvorak. My frenchie playing partner , who also was my piano teacher, had started off playing in a tempo several ticks above what we had rehearsed . I have never forgiven him. Today these are dear memories
Selling your piano was possibly the best thing you could have done. Nobody wants to hear from someone who is so full of himself like you seem to be. Critical of your piano teacher - critical of Sviatoslav Richter with stupid comments. Lucky for your previous 70 audience in the assisted living centre that they could at least switch their hearing aids off.
verticaldiscourse you could very well be cleverer than me BTW I have performed the italian suite in public ( 70 audience ). Bach is like a colombian cumbia: when it´s the real thing it takes one second to confirm that. JSB probably had a lot of pupils finishing his works and had his signature put under it. Otherwise I have no explanation for so much inane , uninspired work.
Richter did not like to record, as he believed the 'moment' created in a performance contributed greatly to the entirety of a performance/ work. If you are interested, you might want to read 'Richter: The Enigma" by Bruno Monsaingeon.
Heavenly... heavenly beautiful understanding and intepretation by Richter (in this particular case, but not only this one, I do not even wish to compare this one to some other pianists'...)
I am writing a very boring document for my job...and i remembered this song and i have to say---it has made a pathetically dismal evening much much better...thank you for posting this song...wonderful...
L'univers tout entier dans le creux de la main..."
I simply love Richter's touch - this is the Bach I grew with. Pure, eternal, simple yet divine... Gould's approach of Bach is amazing too, but too "strange" in many ways for me to sympathize with it. With Richter, I feel at home...
As far as Bach is concerned, Richter and Gould were like complementary sides of the same coin, heads or tails you win. Thanx for the lovely recording.
Richter and Gould use the same ornaments because they are educated in the style of J.S. Bach and of baroque era keyboard playing. It is not necessarily because they heard one another play a certain piece. Certain types of ornaments are appropriate at certain times and are not always written in. Ornamentation and embellishment were expected skills of all baroque era keyboardists.
Organists should learn to interpret Bach more like this! We organists always play Bach so rigidly, using horrible registration of chiffy flutes and principals, and sharp mixtures... just because that's all that's what organs of the time sounded like doesn't mean that's how we have to play! Take Richter's example! Forget about using historically accurate ranks and stops of pipes, use our modern resources! What were the French Romantic, English Romantic, and American Orchestral movements for?!
Richter and Gould had a complete different concept style of paying. The use of the pedal for example, which is strictly minimal with Gould's interpretation is with Richter a lyrical or human element and draw on discreet dynamic layers. They have complete different tempi (as Dinu Lipatti) it means only one important matter: Bach is such a rich composer that when interpreted at this level it can only enriched our lives. Thank you posting this concert.
@embenadorfinearts let Bach be Bach (read the book: Goedel Esher Bach). I suggest you do some more research and come to yourself by letting Sviatoslav Richter show you what the music of Bach could mean to your soul.
@embenadorfinearts I hope you get this . Goulds version of the Allamande is Superb! in 813. But Crap in 812. What was he thinking of?? does he not love the piece??
Richter for certain heard Gould's performance or the other way around (they use the same ornaments that are not written in, in the allemande). Great playing.
I'm Sory but I'm playing allemande now and I play same ornaments which richter played and all of them are wrote in notes! Maybe you saw another version of this notes beceause sometimes there are few version of same bach's composition which are different in some little things (like ornaments).
Please can you tell me where did you find gould's performance of this suite on youtube because I can't find that and i'd like to hear him performing this beautiful composition.
Hmm, now that i've listened to this, I prefer his later 1991 over this recording, for the reason that the sound that old Richter could get out of the piano... simply beautiful.
This is really excellent. God, this is in a totally different class than many of Yudina's recordings. Better expression, better sound. Just plain better, period. Almost everyone is unaware though, that this particular courante is actually a slow piece but it's always played allegro. Had Bach wanted it faster like allegro he would have notated it in 3/8 rather than 3/4 because this was the established convention of the time.
I'm not so sure, that there is a strong basis for your comparison. Very interesting words about the courante. What publication can we read about this? I have to play the 3/4 courantes slowly? e.g. in first and third partitas? How sad. :(
No, actually those two are fast because they have triplets and 16ths built in. But in the case where there are no 16ths (like in this courante) the perceived tempo is naturally slower because of no 16ths. You can read my article from a few years ago in Clavier titled "Of Bach and Courante Tempos", sorry but I forget the year and issue # at the moment. Also, visit my website, which has extensive information on Bach's tempos.
Much faster than Gould's interp. of the first mvt. I can't decide which is better. I love it either way. They are the best two for Bach, albeit polar opposites. Haha
You are quite wrong about the studio recordings; a considerable amount -- I would say 50% -- of Richter's released recordings are studio performances.
OMG it makes me sleep
Zaynlovesme2 1 week ago
great video
gadionson1 2 months ago
in the picture he looks like john malkovich!
meyerchen86 7 months ago 2
Must not cry when listening to this....Must not cry when listening to this....Must not cry when listening to this.....I AM IN THE GOD DAMN WORK
akhoucharmouta 9 months ago
@akhoucharmouta
Go ahead and cry, but cry tears of joy for this is perfection
AntonioSaucedo22 8 months ago 3
@AntonioSaucedo22
I cried and I became clean, I was back a child...
akhoucharmouta 2 days ago
I like his great lightness, his brilliant tune and his complete music oponion!!!!
Thank you for this posting!!!
RichterThePianist 9 months ago
In the past, I used to love Gould so much and his all interpretations of Bach. Then later on learning about other great pianists, I came to confess that there are more frank, more touchy interpretations. For me now Richter has a feeling, ein Gefühl, something felt in, rather than dictating the piece. This may be related to his assumption about recording. He didnt like recording at all. You may only record in your mind in your heart ,it is a fact. I am lucky to be Richters contemporary.
60okka 1 year ago
meravigliosa interpretazione Bach starebbe orgoglioso grazie
TheMauthe 1 year ago
what´s your problem ?
No need to be so pissy for some idle banter on YT
bonsema1 1 year ago
JohnEBPiano the venue in fact was the swedish embassy residence in Mexico City , about 28 years ago.
Eight years later I finally decided to give up. playing & sold my Yamaha 1/2 grand ( 1.85m ) Smart move on my part ! That same evening I also performed a 4 hands hungarian dance by Dvorak. My frenchie playing partner , who also was my piano teacher, had started off playing in a tempo several ticks above what we had rehearsed . I have never forgiven him. Today these are dear memories
bonsema1 1 year ago
@bonsema1
Selling your piano was possibly the best thing you could have done. Nobody wants to hear from someone who is so full of himself like you seem to be. Critical of your piano teacher - critical of Sviatoslav Richter with stupid comments. Lucky for your previous 70 audience in the assisted living centre that they could at least switch their hearing aids off.
jasjjb 1 year ago
verticaldiscourse you could very well be cleverer than me BTW I have performed the italian suite in public ( 70 audience ). Bach is like a colombian cumbia: when it´s the real thing it takes one second to confirm that. JSB probably had a lot of pupils finishing his works and had his signature put under it. Otherwise I have no explanation for so much inane , uninspired work.
bonsema1 1 year ago
@bonsema1 70 AUDIENCE? Man, you really packed that assisted-living center.
JohnEBPiano 1 year ago
@bonsema1
Shame on you for mixing Bach Magnus with crap like cumbia.
AntonioSaucedo22 8 months ago
gosh just a lot of notes wiyhout saying anything, or drama....the second part does have that but a lot of Bach oeuvre is pretty wothless
bonsema1 1 year ago
@bonsema1
Your comment is one of the most stupid things which I've read in a long, long time. Stupidity is a bottomless pit.
Verticaldiscourse 1 year ago 3
How we miss Goldberg's version by Richter !
peronospera 1 year ago
Does anyone know why so many Richter recordings are live?
enrothable 1 year ago
@enrothable
Richter did not like to record, as he believed the 'moment' created in a performance contributed greatly to the entirety of a performance/ work. If you are interested, you might want to read 'Richter: The Enigma" by Bruno Monsaingeon.
efitzger76 1 year ago
This gentlemen is a tremendous pianist and musician. I enjoyed this performance very much. Somehow I must say I like Gould's playing better.
beakt 1 year ago
Les suites Françaises, mon gars :D
88MysticGohan 1 year ago
As well as extraordinary clarity Richter brings humanity to this sublime music.
meredith218461 1 year ago
Heavenly... heavenly beautiful understanding and intepretation by Richter (in this particular case, but not only this one, I do not even wish to compare this one to some other pianists'...)
francorussie2 1 year ago
I don't know why... but I prefer Gould's interpretation of Bach, his style is closer to the sound of Clave.
mikhel000 1 year ago
I am writing a very boring document for my job...and i remembered this song and i have to say---it has made a pathetically dismal evening much much better...thank you for posting this song...wonderful...
sickpuppytoo 1 year ago
@sickpuppytoo piece**
TheOneWingAngeI 1 year ago
"Et Bach ? C'est... L'univers, beau, immense, serein,
Eternité tranquille et toujours jeune ; amour
Des hommes et de Dieu, d'hier et de demain,
Du souvenir qui vit et renaît chaque jour ;
L'univers tout entier dans le creux de la main..."
I simply love Richter's touch - this is the Bach I grew with. Pure, eternal, simple yet divine... Gould's approach of Bach is amazing too, but too "strange" in many ways for me to sympathize with it. With Richter, I feel at home...
SquallEstel 2 years ago 4
Only in heaven it is possible to play so well!!! WONDERFUL WONDERFUL WONDERFUL!!!!!!
iguarni 2 years ago 31
Some of the finest Bach playing upon the piano we will ever be privileged to hear!
smudgepots 2 years ago 5
Richter is human, Gould divine; I can't choose, I can only clap.
MrPakired 2 years ago 4
Vraiment trop beau,Richter restera toujours l'un des meilleurs pianistes,si ce n'est le meilleur,merci pour cet enregistrement magnifique.
Bouboumien 2 years ago
As far as Bach is concerned, Richter and Gould were like complementary sides of the same coin, heads or tails you win. Thanx for the lovely recording.
stlivermore 2 years ago 5
Bach laughes at Scarlatti
TheDirkplas 2 years ago
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TheDirkplas 2 years ago
This is like being in heaven~
rockmusscarcella 2 years ago 3
Oh wow, I find myself coming back and listening to this practically every day! Amazing I love it so much!
thinkgreenlovepurple 2 years ago 3
******* shit in homework!!!
Pizzadegklump 2 years ago
Can you please make sense out of your initial comment?
morvensky 2 years ago
Magnifique!
Merci Truecrypt pour cet enregistrement.
koliatima 2 years ago
Richter and Gould use the same ornaments because they are educated in the style of J.S. Bach and of baroque era keyboard playing. It is not necessarily because they heard one another play a certain piece. Certain types of ornaments are appropriate at certain times and are not always written in. Ornamentation and embellishment were expected skills of all baroque era keyboardists.
bachmaninoff 2 years ago
they did certainly hear and admire each others playing though
gr0mithtimon 2 years ago
Very good! I prefer Gould's for the uniqueness but this is very fluent.
morvensky 2 years ago
Organists should learn to interpret Bach more like this! We organists always play Bach so rigidly, using horrible registration of chiffy flutes and principals, and sharp mixtures... just because that's all that's what organs of the time sounded like doesn't mean that's how we have to play! Take Richter's example! Forget about using historically accurate ranks and stops of pipes, use our modern resources! What were the French Romantic, English Romantic, and American Orchestral movements for?!
codeman2008 2 years ago 6
Richter and Gould had a complete different concept style of paying. The use of the pedal for example, which is strictly minimal with Gould's interpretation is with Richter a lyrical or human element and draw on discreet dynamic layers. They have complete different tempi (as Dinu Lipatti) it means only one important matter: Bach is such a rich composer that when interpreted at this level it can only enriched our lives. Thank you posting this concert.
embenadorfinearts 2 years ago 25
@embenadorfinearts let Bach be Bach (read the book: Goedel Esher Bach). I suggest you do some more research and come to yourself by letting Sviatoslav Richter show you what the music of Bach could mean to your soul.
gzaenker 1 year ago
@embenadorfinearts I hope you get this . Goulds version of the Allamande is Superb! in 813. But Crap in 812. What was he thinking of?? does he not love the piece??
Jackoby62 1 year ago
@embenadorfinearts We just need to splice their DNA then to get the definitive Bach interpreter.
cuallito 9 months ago
Richter for certain heard Gould's performance or the other way around (they use the same ornaments that are not written in, in the allemande). Great playing.
morvensky 2 years ago
I'm Sory but I'm playing allemande now and I play same ornaments which richter played and all of them are wrote in notes! Maybe you saw another version of this notes beceause sometimes there are few version of same bach's composition which are different in some little things (like ornaments).
wikt0rius 2 years ago
Maybe. Just curious, but which edition do you use?
morvensky 2 years ago
I use edition of Polish Music Print but unfortunately I can't tell you anything more, because I use copy not original book.
wikt0rius 2 years ago
Please can you tell me where did you find gould's performance of this suite on youtube because I can't find that and i'd like to hear him performing this beautiful composition.
wikt0rius 2 years ago
Truly wonderful recording, the recurring theme is simply mesmerizing. Thank you very mcuh for sharing:)
imusiciki 3 years ago 3
beautiful. danke.
chad410 3 years ago 5
Hmm, now that i've listened to this, I prefer his later 1991 over this recording, for the reason that the sound that old Richter could get out of the piano... simply beautiful.
Not to mention it's easier to get hehe...
ty very much for posting as always :)
RabidCh 3 years ago
This is really excellent. God, this is in a totally different class than many of Yudina's recordings. Better expression, better sound. Just plain better, period. Almost everyone is unaware though, that this particular courante is actually a slow piece but it's always played allegro. Had Bach wanted it faster like allegro he would have notated it in 3/8 rather than 3/4 because this was the established convention of the time.
BachScholar 3 years ago
I'm not so sure, that there is a strong basis for your comparison. Very interesting words about the courante. What publication can we read about this? I have to play the 3/4 courantes slowly? e.g. in first and third partitas? How sad. :(
RDSerebrianny 3 years ago
No, actually those two are fast because they have triplets and 16ths built in. But in the case where there are no 16ths (like in this courante) the perceived tempo is naturally slower because of no 16ths. You can read my article from a few years ago in Clavier titled "Of Bach and Courante Tempos", sorry but I forget the year and issue # at the moment. Also, visit my website, which has extensive information on Bach's tempos.
BachScholar 3 years ago 2
What's with the bad sound in the beginning? Is that applause??? What year is this from?
weikko79 3 years ago
truecrypt you know we adore Richter, and so you must tell us the year this was recorded! :D
RabidCh 3 years ago
Yes, this is a storm of applause...
It should be 1977 but I'm not completely sure.
truecrypt 3 years ago
@truecrypt to me it sounds like bad encoding of the audio track
leviyehonatan 1 year ago
Ofcourse it's applause... what else would it be dude? Richter didn't do much studio recording, most of his pieces are from live performances.
Toxxic88 3 years ago
Much faster than Gould's interp. of the first mvt. I can't decide which is better. I love it either way. They are the best two for Bach, albeit polar opposites. Haha
skryabyn 3 years ago
You are quite wrong about the studio recordings; a considerable amount -- I would say 50% -- of Richter's released recordings are studio performances.
weikko79 3 years ago
@weikko79 Wasn't THAT bad....
Imforeverone88 1 year ago