ever read the theory about where most who were handed this as a prognosis say it's their choice and not the world or study to inhibit as life. most are born with autism/asperegers, few high giftedness..
Haha, this kinda describes me. I don't think my preference for solitude is a "disorder." I guess I just lack that feeling of being "connected" that other people seem to possess so to put it bluntly, it's more like "I don't know what to talk to you about and we don't 'click'. Therefore, I'm too lazy to invest time and effort into our relationship."
personally i can fake almost every emotion. But i seem to unable to form long term relationships, i can make friends no problem but love, i can't seem to find a suitable person. Every girl just seem inferior, and i have a trust issue. But thank god i have video games
I have no problem with my disorder but I don't like the side effects. I have a very hard time even faking emotions and never react in any meaningful way to anything. I also have difficulty speaking with emotion and often stutter, pause or garble my speech. for the rare times I am socializing I prefer not to come off as cold and stupid. It makes the experience better for the other person.
im like this i spend every day of my life in my room alone after work i ignore my family girls like me because im attractive i just ignore them i prefer to masterbate over porn even though i could be fucking real people i dont have friends i drink and take drugs because i dont enjoy people i dont conform to anything i take few if any pleasures in life i seem to know everything and every one else seems stupid to me even though i can except i cant spell or solve problems
Oh boy... Now you made me worried. I have almost all of those things here. I don't really see it as much of a problem though because I'm more than able to function in life and enjoy it (not necessarily alone but preferably).
Fact is, disorders exist with a spectrum and everybody is at a certain point in the spectrum and the question for some people and their doctors etc is; do their symptoms and experiences cross the 'threshold' required on the spectrum to be cast asunder via label of disorder.
For those of you who really suffer from this, do you have a set of masks for varying scenarios or are you an ever-piercing vanguard of abnormality (with regards to established societal norms)?
Worryingly apt description of who I really am and fight against every day, but I'm sure I'm not quite truly in that realm, thankfully -- or not. Truly, truly, bang on the money, including caveats and fine-tooth combed semantic scrutiny.
I think I have this, but I seem to be doing just fine haha. Wouldn't change a gold-darn thing. I mean, why would I want to join the normal club anyway? Those people are all just so... Well you get my point
This video describes me perfectly... I live for my art, it's been something i've always had a comfort from the degrading outside world of which i find myself unable to feel a part of. Anyone else out there get sweaty palms or feel out of breath or confused when around a large crowd of people?? Or like, you really dont want to be seen??
I can imagine people suffering from social anxiety disorder are often misdiagnosed as having this sort of problem too. Also, well a whole range of avoidant disorders and aspergers.
well, yesterday i self-diagnosed myself with schizoid personality because i show about 95% of the traits. but there is no way in hell i'm living with my parents for the rest of my life, even if i have to sleep in the woods or something. i'll just marry another schizoid when i'm older i guess. anyone down with that?
Please do NOT confuse introverts with us schizoids.......we're NOTHING alike. Introverts are basically less talkative extroverts, they enjoy the company of others, have friends and don't like to be alone in social settings. Introverts and extroverts coexist regularly, while schiziods cannot with either one because we're loners and are biochemically designed to be alone(being around people for long periods of time mentally drains us).
I sometimes consider myself to be either schizotypal, schizoid, avoidant or having asperger's. I can engage in conversation with people and not feel bored but only when there's a common subject, a red string in the topic and of course it requires knowing about it too. I'm in school now and appear very social and talkative during class but outside it I only talk to people when they come to me and I have to force myself to participate in talking.
Thanks for sharing, I was always like that at school. Now I'm 35 and isolated and depressed. I can't interact or connect with people, especially for long periods of time. I don't know what kind of work I could do, but it must be something that requires as little interaction with others as possible. I feel extremely stressed if I have to perform in a busy environment with people, it's totally unbearable.
@Metsada007 Perhaps you should try translating things if you're good with languages. Then there's a lot of computer related stuff, like if you learned web coding like HTML (it is quite quick to learn, and there are dozens of web guides to it too) you could do simple web design for random people who need that. Both of those things can be done from your own home so there's no need for prolonged social contact since it's one project at a time.
Thanks, I'm good with languages and I like to learn a language. Translating seems to be one of the best options. Web design sounds good too, although I'm not sure if I have the capacity to start my own business and everything that comes with it. I'm afraid of taking risks.
I am an schizoid.. we do have quite good social skills (or at least i do), but they're boring and i use them only when i need something. I have friends because i might need them in the future (everybody has friends because of this, they just don't know/realise/accept it). I do not think being a schizoid is a disorder, but a virtue providing a more focused life path.
@MexicanJudge-How can you have friends then? And have you been constantly asked why you're so quiet and spend pretty much all your time alone(unless at work or at school)?
@SuperboyXX0018 i have friends because i need them (just like everybody else if you want to achieve something at life.. which in my case would be gaining enough money to grow a farm and be able to live all alone.. eating what i grow in it).. and yes.. i am asked that a lot and only go out when people start complaining about me not giving a fawk
The only thing that makes me deubt if I have SPD is that I feel anxiety when I´m alone, as well as with others. It´s not like I´m happy being alone. I would actually prefere to have meaningful relationships but because I´m unable to connect with others (I can´t relate to them) it´s very painful being around other people, because it makes me feel even more lonely than when I´m alone. I have to say though, the people around mecan´t connect with me either, so I´m not the only unfeeling one,kwim?
I think I have this disorder, I almost never appear to care, but in my case it´s a violent supression of emotions and need for intimacy because the cost of it is too high. The cost is lack of freedom and danger of being estinguished, as I see it. My sister has schizofrenia and I was lucky to only have SPD. I substitute relationships with music and I write stories that I come up with in my head.
bullplop, alot of these schizoid people are just pussies, im a schizophrenic and i can be in front of 1000 people lol. just nerds that play xbox all day at home.
ja ziekte nummer 20 betrekkingswaan noem ik het na al je vorige jy my wysmaakte mamma help i need a break kitkat mmmmmhhhhhhhhhhlekker,oh sociall skeels now i know we don,t meet ,never ok accept pause fantasy voor toneel spelen een 10 chris jaill jy houd van dangerous games ik niet ik had er 1 schizonoia nou eerst wel denken dan pause
For ppl saying this is not rly a problem but a choice of life:
Maybe they dont feel the need for socialisation but they still need a litle of it and when you get in this SPD pattern you end up with nothing at all and thats a problem.
@TWILLSmann if you love to be with other people, then do you have skitzoid personality disorder? I was under the impression these people really didn't crave attention/relationships?
But I don't know heaps about this, I may be wrong. Good luck =)
In my case - I don´t care about getting attention, but if I get it I´m ok with that too. I don´t care either way. However, I seldom get attention because I am very aloof and show no interesst in others. I am prepared to spend the rest of my life alone. If I was on a deserted island I would be ok, I would interact with animals becase they have no demands and they cannot hurt me. But even if there warent animals I would still be ok with that. I am empty inside.
I'd probably be diagnosed with this disorder but I don't see it as a disorder at all, just humans trying to "normalising" everyone. Just because 9/10 people have a strong desire to form personal relationships, doesn't mean the 10th person has a disease or personality disorder, maybe they've seen through the facade/game/trick :) I'm choosing a life of solitude and I have pretty high confidence/self-esteem (I think) because I've weighed up pro's and con's rationally :)
This complement of 'flaws' is only a disorder, if you view society as a superior functioning organism. It isn't. Society is loud, uncouth and ego-centric. Like a child begging for attention. The varying degrees of schizoid tendancies should be appreciated as a viable function of an adaptive animal, creativity high on the agenda. Society doesn't actually 'feel' enough, it characterizes any sense of otherness as persona non grata. Incidentally, i am schizoid personality type.
What's with you idiots calling this a disorder? I have these "symptoms" but I'm fine with life it's enjoyable. Some of the instances you give are wrong anyway. I can fake interest in a relationship whether it's platonic or if it's between a family member. I'm looked at as antisocial within my own family and by friends whom I don't keep in contact with, but if I ever DO have to confront them I can completely fabricate a whole meaningless conversation. It's duty I don't care for but I'm able to do
@HawaiiMclovin69 I am the exact same way.. Keep in mind this is a text book definition and is based on the extreme case.. in reality people which SPD (or any personality 'disorder') fall into a wide range. I am on the low end of the spectrum.
@badalex17594 that's partially the case for me, I start relationships with girls but I'll just end up not talking to them because it's too much to keep up conversations I don't care about with them. It'll go on for weeks till their frustrated. I don't enjoy self-evaluation or putting it out there on a platform for everyone to see anyway so I'll stop there. Sorry for the delayed response.
i suffer an exact anhedonic detachment from intense feelings. and am almost always solitary.
hypothesized thoughts and distant demeanor. i did a bunch of net research and a sum of most people under this stigma fall prey to other's projections.
hahaha. and it's not a split. just a long step back from the common reality we share in society.
Im an aspie. Some similar symptoms but different Ive heard. Thing is I dont have a particurlarly high attention span. My thinking isnt very concrete. Im lazy and I daydream alot. Not typical aspie traits.
Are you sure you are Schizoid? Maybe your need for interaction with others isjust severly surpressed because of the anxiety you feel as an avoidant? I suspect that might be the case with me, but unlike avoidants I´m not hypersensetive to other people, I´m indifferent to others, I have a rich inner life/fantasy, and I feel despair/emptyness all the time. Idk what I am, I am going to seek help just to see what the proffessionals have to say.
@Dancewithme1983 a psychologist told me that i wasn't. i thought i was one in a moment of strong depression, in which i basically didn't give a fuck about anything or anyone (i think i wrote the comment way before the summer(?)). with time i learnt that no one really gives a fuck about me either, so i can have "fake relationship" and share some things with other people, but not feelings. you know, like making stupid jokes, etc and have a "normal" life. still can't relate to girls normally though
@badalex17594 What is it about girls that makes you unable to relate to them? I think most men feel that way tbh. I´m so afraid of developing schizofrenia. I honestly don´t belive that schizoids are indifferent. I belive it´s the other way around. They have supressed their emotions due to fear. I read that schizoids are feardriven people, and in my case that may very well be true. I fear that if I stuff things into the subconcious, deal with them alone, or not at all, I´ll get schizofrenia.
@Dancewithme1983 my problem with girls is that, from a biological point of view, they decide when to "mate" and with whom, so if i tried any sexual approach, they could control me, and i hate being controlled. so what i think is that i'd need to hurt them before they can hurt me. so i could try that and say "fuck you" real quick, but my self-esteem is too low for that. Everytime i think about relating to them i HATE them, but i don't do it in real life, so i don't hate them, i just don't care.
@badalex17594 of course, there are exceptions with girls that i know. this only applies to girls that i consider sexually attractive and potentially dangerous. i hate those when i think about it.
I discovered this condition recently and I am relieved to be able to give it a name. It also helped me to explain certain behaviors that I had in my life (few friends, little interest about the opposite sex, etc), and the fact I like heavy metal because it contributes to my fantasies of power.
We are perfect to the job of star-travellers... The future is ours. I'm happy the way I am. And I rather be in the company of others just like me. In delightfull quieteness.
I heard that people with Schizoid have similar features to that of a person suffering from Autism. In terms of the way the individuals thinks/views the world along with the inability to understand certain social ques. Is there any validity to that?
This is not a "disorder", its just a personality style. Why does many people think that only the most general type of personality is healthy? This narrowing down of human expression, way of thinking and feeling along with the denial of the negative aspects of the human condition is all these pseudo-scientific diagnoses are all about. Social control at its best: if you are not like the most of us, we shall medicalize your difference and "cure" you back into the fold.
@eydos Speaking as a schizoid, I actually wouldn't mind being medicalized into feeling that social relationships have meaning. When you scrape away all the social parts of life, then life is actually fairly meaningless and dull. I think that might be the reason why schizoids more often have intense solitary hobbies. Simply to fill the void that most people fill with relationships. But yeah, you could say that it's a personality type as well as a disorder. Humans are meant to be social.
@816bitRemake I agree with you mostly. But I prefer not to be cured, if cure means adjustment to something that itself is deeply philosophically problematic. At any rate, its not a medical, its an existential matter.
I would say that it´s both an existential and a medical problem. The medical problem is what makes us hypersensetive to the problematic aspects of human bonding. I suspect most SPD:s like me belive that we are all esentially alone, so we might as well skipp the "fake" bonding part, but it is not necessarely fake, maybe our PD makes us unable to feel genuineness in bonding with others.
But you are right, just because SPD is considered a personality disorder doesn´t rule out the fact that perhaps it is only a state of a higher awareness of the human condition and the esential aloneness of us all as well as the blurred limits between self vs. others. But imo to be so hyprsensetive to these existential problems you would have to have experienced traumas concerning these matters as well as have a genetic predisposition for the disorder.
What is true "bonding" anyway? I remember before developing SPD and being "healthy", bonding with people. Looking back now I can honestly say that it wasall an illusion and all the healthy people are just oblivious to the fact that they´re living in a fantasy just the ame way a schizoid lives in the fantasy in their own head. Where the fantasy takes place doesn´t matter. Nothing is real, not for long anyway.
@Dancewithme1983 I am critical of a notion of "health" derived from a conflation with the notion of "normalcy". Just because a behavior/feeling/thought is singular and not statistically prevalent in a given population within a given culture, does not follow that it must necessarily also be pathological. Psychiatry as opposed to neurology bases its diagnoses on identifiable socio-cultural aversions to certain modes of being and label what is not usual as disorder, equating deviance with illness.
@eydos Also, the idea that a description of a "human nature" (in this case our herd nature) is also already a prescription is false. Nature, instincts are biological imperatives but given our consciousness we can evaluate them personally as not being necessarily desirable, thus in case of humans a natural imperative is not necessarily also a moral imperative. We choose between natural imperatives we like (bonding, cooperating, etc) and dismiss others clearly due not to yet another drive.
@Dancewithme1983 that conclusion ("nothing is real") makes me have self-destructive fantasies sometimes, not about suicide, but about destroying everything, including myself. i like violent animation in an epic context, such as anime and other, and heavy metal music, which is also violent. people don't know why i listen to that music though. my friends who also listen to it don't have the same reasons. everything that i like, that creates my fantasy, is my own way to destroy everything.
I believe I am a schizoid cuz I love being alone but I don't have a problem making friends when I have to be around people - like for example, at a party. My problem is I find people way too boring. I wonder why other schizoids prefer to be alone?
@luiza2166 Well for me its just mentally fatiguing. The more people i'm around the more drained I feel I dont know why. I feel like i need my personal space so I can clear my head and think when people try to start conversations with my I feel smothered. Also I just dont see eye to eye with other people. They talk abut irrelevant crap and I want nothing to do with them. It's nice being alone. Relaxing even. Do I wish I was more social? yeah of course but its not worth it.
@Dav2ya I hear ya. I am exactly the same, I feel very drained around people too. Are you overly sensitive to noise or other stimuli? I find noise very annoying, including music. I also can't stand the smell of perfumes. Sometimes I think I am slightly Asperger because of the sensory sensitivity but maybe this is a characteristic of schizoids too.
@luiza2166 Actually music for me is very relaxing. It drowns out alot fo the world and just tune people out if you dont feel like talking to anyone. It's great. as for smell. their are some smells that bother me but their smells that people would agree stink like axe or some other cheap cologne or perfume. I'm not overly sensitive to noise. but if I dont like it and its constant then ya I will get annoyed. Like music I dont like, or someones annoying high pitched laughter. But thats not just me.
I haven't read all the comments to this video, but I sure do appreciate your trying to explain schizoid disorder and what it truly is. I am diagnosed with the disorder and undergoing psychiatric treatment. It's not just being a "loner". It's very hard to explain but it's the total inability to connect on any level with others (including family). Personally, I find the worst aspects of the disorder to be the ahedonia and constant preoccupation with fantasy that I experience.
Because it's not a conscious choice. When you work with these people what you find is that they are not rationally choosing this as a life, nor do they pick up on social cues --unless you tell them and if better treatments are found - I suspect many of these people would like to be more social/involved in their lives.
If you consciously choose to be alone that's fine - but if you don't even know you are alone in the social sense that's something else altogether.
@ryukXsayu27 Well, it's supposed to get worse with time when not undergoing therapy. Stronger medication is rather risky (side-effects tend to be severe). How fast it progresses is the only variable factor.
As for your other concerns, I propose to point people annoying you to educational videos posted by YT user darknightseeker, or to try forum wwwDOTschizoidsDOTnet to find like-minded individuals - self deluding wannabes are a minority there.
CD They face a dilemma - stay in their comfort zone and experience sensory deprivation, or venture beyond it to experience wariness and alienation caused by human presence.
@ryukXsayu27 Well, somebody is rather opinionated.
@MindstormBlue Of course I am opinionated. I'm furious. Everywhere on the web its always "its a choice so it shouldn't be called a disease," or "I ". Its crazy, we schizoids don't makes those choices, the brain makes those decisions instinctively. I've suffered my whole life from these subconcious confusion. At least Wikipedia had the sense to post the whole story, instead of just the ignorant narcicism.
@ryukXsayu27 Of course SPD messes up the priorities for people afflicted, but what is it needed to change that? Forcing myself to socialize to please other people made me clinically depressive. Staying in the baseline without experiencing emotional stimulation gets uncomfortable too after several years of self isolation. Subjects of interest are getting few and far between. Positive feedback loop common to other humans seems to be unattainable, and without it slipping to dull routine is assured.
@MindstormBlue True, long term cures are, well, non-existent. I've been trying "closest compromise." So far its working like a charm, but will it stick?
People with SPD are driven by curiosity and avoidance of potentially hurtful conditions. Curiosity wanes with age, leaving them lacking any significant motivation beyond their immediate needs, which are low on Maslow's hierarchy pyramid. Anhedonia and avolition accompany their life. If you'd see one, you could mistake that person for a wooden mannequin. CDN
my father has a form of this...it is very difficult for all to reach him...I respect what you all are saying...its just hard to deal with...I'm just doing more research.
Don't you think that people with schizoid realize that the rest of the people are idiots & don't bother interacting with them? Has that ever come to mind?
Our lives are often so busy and on the go, people relate on trivial topics & don't dwell more broader aspects of life. So I think being a schizoid is more of a introverted personality type, but a disorder, I'm not sure. I've known people with this personality and they're active at work settings, but around people they find it hard to relate.
Im a schizoid aiming to be a psychiatrist. Go figure... I don't mind company as long as the person isn't a social butterfly and if need be can have small talk but always keep a wall up.. I have a beautiful fiance, and am living a good life. It is no way a bad thing if you are comfortable with it.In fact i feel i have more of an ability to focus on college without the care of social interactions such as parties etc etc. I never feel the need to be accepted nor care for that matter. ....
Most of the ppl w/ disorders are happy. Leave them alone,stop labeling people who are different and calling it a disorder. besides, who is to say that getting a job and wasting your one life on it is normal.Who is to say that doing what you want to do is wrong.the medical practitioners are sick in the head. They diagnose anything original and different as disorder.thats why everyone is so god dam insecure and fucked in the head. what we need is freedom in every sense of the word.
So if u ask me, about 80% of the world has a disorder, the disorder of not being able to think for themselves and following the herd. Iknow its a bit off-topic but ithink its quite important to realize it, for futher understanding of personality disorders.
Lot of people often forget that its society and standards that labels u, while theres a big chance the labeled person can be more sane than the majority of the world these days.
Its kinda lame to think schizoid people are all the same, not willing to start any relationships or w/e, and always want to be alone.. For example ive got a girl and a job but its pretty much the world that became retarded and wrong, then again the majority of the people dont realize this and think Im all strange lol -
I do not believe in a lot of this psychiatry/DSM bullshit of calling personality traits diseases. But, there are discernible characteristics that closely match the descriptions of these so called disorders..However, they do cause a lot of pain, I love my wife dearly. I've tried 10 years to get into her heart and to open her heart to me. I am very lonely, and so sad for her because I want her to know what it feels like to be fully human. To experience, wonder, excitement, empathy, dreams.
So, looking at all the symptoms and such, I have to ask, what is so bad about it? Just because a person almost never wants to be around people doesn't mean that it is bad. Or having thoughts that don't agree with society? Who said there was something wrong with that?
@BlazeCyndaquil Because its not "normal" with the standards of society, i know what you are saying. And actually, its said that thinking that theres nothing wrong with it, is another symptom.
@blakscull You can also say that just randomly making up disorders to explain the actions of people who don't act like everybody else is just making up disorders. Clearly, being a personality, disorder, the disorder is the kind of person that they are, so you would be saying that the person isn't right in who they are. When people talk about personality disorders in the brain, I think of it just how someone developed their personality differently based on parts of the brain, not an error in code
no this is not who i am! >< i am only 16yo ,, when i was 14yo i was so sociel i used to go shopping and meet people from cafes, etc. but now....i feel i am helpless i DO want to be treated...i want to be that happy 14yo again....i fell in love few months ago....but i couldnt come to my senes to ever get into a relationship with him...i found myself having sex with a stranger because ther was no friendship involed he didnt even know my name. i been out my house 5 times this year
@mizuki3 I could be said to be schizoid, but I was a very different person years ago, but I have no obligations against the symptoms at least regarding myself. So, maybe I wouldn't know, but I would just say you have a bit of internal conflict. If you want to be who you were, just be who you were, unless you like being who you are now. Just find a way to kill that part of yourself it you don't like it. It isn't hard, for me at least.
@BlazeCyndaquil icc,,, im not going to move forward and finish wat i started. if its possible. u know a few months ago i was ruined...and i didnt know why or wat to say the person i loved asking me why i cant see him,, emotionaly i wanted to but mentally i couldnt walk out my door and i cryed because i didnt know wat was stopping me untill a test told me and the symtoms were accurate to my actions and thoughts T_T i have noone but myself..friends means nothing to me
@BlazeCyndaquil I think it's about caring about other people around you.And it doesn't matter if you are in a group or solo.Something happened to me few days ago and your comment sprang up to my mind. I was sitting after hours of hiking and waiting for the bus by a mountain hut and bad weather started to form. The bench was beneath the roof and sheltered from the rain. And some guy with his company sat beside me.. and they just pushed me out. It was like I was alone there and so I didn't matter
@yupiie I know many schizoids in school and my family, and I'd say its not case-by-case, but circumstance. Unless one has a very stabled or isolated life, day-to-day emotional proding will undoubtably cause irrational response. Theres also uncomfortableness w/ primal emotions, like sex, so many patients fantasize about "watching" instead of actual sex. I've read that narcisim and selfishnes are kind of intrinsic w/ SPD, since schizoids don't feel dependent on others.
@ryukXsayu27 When you look really close, who is not unhealthy? normal people live in a state of mania all the time, going about stuff, doing this, doing that, crying for loved ones... it´s all about standards and paradigm.
@yupiie A last reason, and from my experince, the most common, is misdiagnosing symptoms. If you look through the comment pages, you see alot of "I just don't talk to people because they are noisy/lame/mean etc." Which of course is nonsense, you aren't talking to people because you have SPD, yet everyone makes up those kind of excuses. What's dangerous is to take these excuses too seriously... which is probably our biggest danger.
The bad thing about it is that this personal sanctuary is both beautiful and painfully lonely at the same time. Yet, when you interact with people (a form of connection with the outside world) it only pushes one deeper into this personal sanctuary. In the external world a schizoid lacks emotions, however, internally one is filled with sensitivity. Its this constant tug of war that makes it "bad".
@BlazeCyndaquil Great point... as most psychological disorders... it's just a label to categorize and understand patients... Its only a problem (disorder) If it creates disfunction, distress, or impairment..
Btw.. Every1 you know will display some and many types of psych disorders
@Ribnobs That isn't what the "symptoms" define. The symptoms are basically not being around people and having unorthodox ideas. If that defines "being trapped inside yourself", I feel very sorry for you. What do you mean by "trapped inside yourself"? That can be interpreted many ways, and I don't see any of them that are always interpreted as being scary. Scary is an opinion, so therefore, there could be someone that enjoys this "trapped inside yourself" feeling.
@BlazeCyndaquil I sure do. Put yourself in my shoes. I LOVE TO BE WITH PEOPLE. I wish I could be with them all day. But I AM AFRAID- They could ask about me. I might have to share something personal, reveal something emotional, may have to say how I feel. Or respond to an emotion with my own emotion. This is a problem with feelings that impairs interpersonal relationships. It's real, devastating, and is a cause of suicide. I see how it may be hard to understand, but it is real.
@TWILLSmann That seems like a bit of a predicament. My point is that a lot of symptoms for disorders tend to be something that you could use just to categorize people who really have nothing wrong with them. I really would like to be able to rephrase that last sentence also, but it just doesn't work. By that I mean to say that you really can't say that some person 'has something wrong with themself''.
I have to agree with you. Except society has been led to believe these traits as negative and unattractive. You don't make many friends with a poker-face or a person dissattached. It's usually seen as shy or timid but thats not always the case.
"Unlike people with anxiety disorders, who know they have a problem but are unable to control it, people with personality disorders generally are not aware that they have a problem and do not believe they have anything to control"
Which is what I am by the way... You should do a search on covert type... It is often misdiagnosed as ADHD because it has a lot of similar signs but typically more severe but with the added hell of being extremely sensitive
Although I think the info you are trying to relay is good.... it isn't 100 percent accurate. There is covert type which constantly try to please people.still have a lot of the inner feelings and extreme social anxiety... But they are impulsed to say things to get positive responses and it looks like lot like avoidant but its not
Does anyone know of any good jobs for schizoids? I'm intelligent and i have good qualifications but I'm finding it really hard to find work because I refuse to take a job that involves working with people.
my father has some of those traits..unfortunately he's getting alot worse to the point where just having a conversation is impossible now....I look for answers whereever I can find some to help us cope with his problems...
I don't get the whole "creative" schizoid idea. As an EXTREMELY flat affect schizoid, I can't see why a person with SPD, who would apparently lack emotion or hobbies or ambition, would be creative or bother making art. Could somebody help me out here?
@ryukXsayu27 Schizoids with no distractions can be entirely focused on one subject which possibly could allow them to stay on problems for a long time. Some historians believe Albert Einstein possibly had Asperger Syndrome, a similar psychological condition (due to the fact he had difficulty in social relationships), allowing him to have intense thoughts while bored at the patent office working on his theory of relativity
ever read the theory about where most who were handed this as a prognosis say it's their choice and not the world or study to inhibit as life. most are born with autism/asperegers, few high giftedness..
Abortive 2 days ago
Haha, this kinda describes me. I don't think my preference for solitude is a "disorder." I guess I just lack that feeling of being "connected" that other people seem to possess so to put it bluntly, it's more like "I don't know what to talk to you about and we don't 'click'. Therefore, I'm too lazy to invest time and effort into our relationship."
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AlexTirl 2 weeks ago
personally i can fake almost every emotion. But i seem to unable to form long term relationships, i can make friends no problem but love, i can't seem to find a suitable person. Every girl just seem inferior, and i have a trust issue. But thank god i have video games
01misheel 3 weeks ago
@01misheel I feel the exact same way . But i have no trust issues.
AlexTirl 2 weeks ago
I just like being alone, and I want to be left that way. My family doesn't think I'm schizoid or anything, though.
Bungogin 1 month ago
I have no problem with my disorder but I don't like the side effects. I have a very hard time even faking emotions and never react in any meaningful way to anything. I also have difficulty speaking with emotion and often stutter, pause or garble my speech. for the rare times I am socializing I prefer not to come off as cold and stupid. It makes the experience better for the other person.
spitfiremanlizerd 1 month ago
im like this i spend every day of my life in my room alone after work i ignore my family girls like me because im attractive i just ignore them i prefer to masterbate over porn even though i could be fucking real people i dont have friends i drink and take drugs because i dont enjoy people i dont conform to anything i take few if any pleasures in life i seem to know everything and every one else seems stupid to me even though i can except i cant spell or solve problems
1ukjunglednbraver 1 month ago
Oh boy... Now you made me worried. I have almost all of those things here. I don't really see it as much of a problem though because I'm more than able to function in life and enjoy it (not necessarily alone but preferably).
AlexNOSAM 1 month ago
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Fact is, disorders exist with a spectrum and everybody is at a certain point in the spectrum and the question for some people and their doctors etc is; do their symptoms and experiences cross the 'threshold' required on the spectrum to be cast asunder via label of disorder.
For those of you who really suffer from this, do you have a set of masks for varying scenarios or are you an ever-piercing vanguard of abnormality (with regards to established societal norms)?
Cheers, then.
FederersL1ama 1 month ago
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FederersL1ama 1 month ago
I bet a bunch of INTP's and INTJ's who are pretty extreme for their type could relate to about 80% of this.
FederersL1ama 1 month ago
Worryingly apt description of who I really am and fight against every day, but I'm sure I'm not quite truly in that realm, thankfully -- or not. Truly, truly, bang on the money, including caveats and fine-tooth combed semantic scrutiny.
FederersL1ama 1 month ago
I think I have this, but I seem to be doing just fine haha. Wouldn't change a gold-darn thing. I mean, why would I want to join the normal club anyway? Those people are all just so... Well you get my point
DyingSoliloquy 1 month ago
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DyingSoliloquy 1 month ago
This video describes me perfectly... I live for my art, it's been something i've always had a comfort from the degrading outside world of which i find myself unable to feel a part of. Anyone else out there get sweaty palms or feel out of breath or confused when around a large crowd of people?? Or like, you really dont want to be seen??
Hexxus245 1 month ago
I can imagine people suffering from social anxiety disorder are often misdiagnosed as having this sort of problem too. Also, well a whole range of avoidant disorders and aspergers.
Insaneagram 2 months ago
well, yesterday i self-diagnosed myself with schizoid personality because i show about 95% of the traits. but there is no way in hell i'm living with my parents for the rest of my life, even if i have to sleep in the woods or something. i'll just marry another schizoid when i'm older i guess. anyone down with that?
lol.
MegJ326 2 months ago
@MegJ326 hahaha hell yeah man!
14M88G 2 months ago
@MegJ326 I mean, hell yeah women! lol my bad i didn't think you was a women. Im a schizoid also...we should get married.
14M88G 2 months ago
Please do NOT confuse introverts with us schizoids.......we're NOTHING alike. Introverts are basically less talkative extroverts, they enjoy the company of others, have friends and don't like to be alone in social settings. Introverts and extroverts coexist regularly, while schiziods cannot with either one because we're loners and are biochemically designed to be alone(being around people for long periods of time mentally drains us).
SuperboyXX0018 2 months ago
I've been reading about these disorders on the internet. I relate to a lot of the symptoms... What should I do? Should I go see a doctor?
I took an online test and scored fairly highly on schizoid and avoidant traits. What do you think?
amiablesnowman 2 months ago
I sometimes consider myself to be either schizotypal, schizoid, avoidant or having asperger's. I can engage in conversation with people and not feel bored but only when there's a common subject, a red string in the topic and of course it requires knowing about it too. I'm in school now and appear very social and talkative during class but outside it I only talk to people when they come to me and I have to force myself to participate in talking.
Love is the worst though. No idea what to do.
Nymfipapukaija 3 months ago 11
@Nymfipapukaija
Thanks for sharing, I was always like that at school. Now I'm 35 and isolated and depressed. I can't interact or connect with people, especially for long periods of time. I don't know what kind of work I could do, but it must be something that requires as little interaction with others as possible. I feel extremely stressed if I have to perform in a busy environment with people, it's totally unbearable.
Metsada007 1 month ago
@Metsada007 Perhaps you should try translating things if you're good with languages. Then there's a lot of computer related stuff, like if you learned web coding like HTML (it is quite quick to learn, and there are dozens of web guides to it too) you could do simple web design for random people who need that. Both of those things can be done from your own home so there's no need for prolonged social contact since it's one project at a time.
Nymfipapukaija 4 weeks ago
@Nymfipapukaija
Thanks, I'm good with languages and I like to learn a language. Translating seems to be one of the best options. Web design sounds good too, although I'm not sure if I have the capacity to start my own business and everything that comes with it. I'm afraid of taking risks.
Metsada007 4 weeks ago
I am an schizoid.. we do have quite good social skills (or at least i do), but they're boring and i use them only when i need something. I have friends because i might need them in the future (everybody has friends because of this, they just don't know/realise/accept it). I do not think being a schizoid is a disorder, but a virtue providing a more focused life path.
MexicanJudge 3 months ago
@MexicanJudge-You're not a true schiziod.
SuperboyXX0018 2 months ago
@SuperboyXX0018 i've been diagnosed by a couple shrinks kid..
MexicanJudge 2 months ago
@MexicanJudge-How can you have friends then? And have you been constantly asked why you're so quiet and spend pretty much all your time alone(unless at work or at school)?
SuperboyXX0018 2 months ago
@SuperboyXX0018 i have friends because i need them (just like everybody else if you want to achieve something at life.. which in my case would be gaining enough money to grow a farm and be able to live all alone.. eating what i grow in it).. and yes.. i am asked that a lot and only go out when people start complaining about me not giving a fawk
MexicanJudge 2 months ago
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Okay, I'm a girl.. And I think I have this....
xXPurpleLoliTranceXx 3 months ago
So... it's not just me who has an awesome inner life? :D
EbonyDarknessWay 3 months ago
Bit confused. I express symptoms of both. I think I'm actually a bit of both. Maybe I'm none. Who knows.
EbonyDarknessWay 3 months ago
The only thing that makes me deubt if I have SPD is that I feel anxiety when I´m alone, as well as with others. It´s not like I´m happy being alone. I would actually prefere to have meaningful relationships but because I´m unable to connect with others (I can´t relate to them) it´s very painful being around other people, because it makes me feel even more lonely than when I´m alone. I have to say though, the people around mecan´t connect with me either, so I´m not the only unfeeling one,kwim?
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
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Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
I think I have this disorder, I almost never appear to care, but in my case it´s a violent supression of emotions and need for intimacy because the cost of it is too high. The cost is lack of freedom and danger of being estinguished, as I see it. My sister has schizofrenia and I was lucky to only have SPD. I substitute relationships with music and I write stories that I come up with in my head.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
this pretty much describes me. I am not sure whether I have AvPD or Schizoid PD , but I KNOW it is at least one or the other.
jennync1989 4 months ago
this is probably the most accurate description of spd i've seen in a long time
Grayanotoxin 4 months ago
My dad was one of these people. I still fantasize about grabbing hold of the steering wheel and killing that heartless bitch.
ryukXsayu27 4 months ago
@ryukXsayu27 lmao wtf? are you one too? did you inherit his traits?!
ladypro615 3 months ago
bullplop, alot of these schizoid people are just pussies, im a schizophrenic and i can be in front of 1000 people lol. just nerds that play xbox all day at home.
gen6k 4 months ago
They are just goth......
o0POSH0o 5 months ago
gee,ziektes,nu,kies,jy,een,nieuwe,of,bay adieu
mollysangelique 5 months ago
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MouthOfTheUnknown 5 months ago
schizoid cant be cured,its how we think
im schizoid and i dont see how i would change,its my way of seeing the world,i rather be miserable and alone than be surrounded by danger
Alxmir23 5 months ago
I like this music, do you have any more simmilar to it?
TheCombineify 6 months ago
"I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space"- Hamlet
tigerboy1966 6 months ago
ja ziekte nummer 20 betrekkingswaan noem ik het na al je vorige jy my wysmaakte mamma help i need a break kitkat mmmmmhhhhhhhhhhlekker,oh sociall skeels now i know we don,t meet ,never ok accept pause fantasy voor toneel spelen een 10 chris jaill jy houd van dangerous games ik niet ik had er 1 schizonoia nou eerst wel denken dan pause
mollysangelique 6 months ago
ja ziekte nummer 20 betrekkingswaan noem ik het na al je vorige jy my wysmaakte mamma help i need a break kitkat mmmmmhhhhhhhhhhlekker
mollysangelique 6 months ago
being inlove with a shizoid is the hardest thing i've been through
joshwilsk 7 months ago
For ppl saying this is not rly a problem but a choice of life:
Maybe they dont feel the need for socialisation but they still need a litle of it and when you get in this SPD pattern you end up with nothing at all and thats a problem.
Phokya0 7 months ago in playlist Personality Disorders
@TWILLSmann if you love to be with other people, then do you have skitzoid personality disorder? I was under the impression these people really didn't crave attention/relationships?
But I don't know heaps about this, I may be wrong. Good luck =)
6467103 7 months ago
@6467103
In my case - I don´t care about getting attention, but if I get it I´m ok with that too. I don´t care either way. However, I seldom get attention because I am very aloof and show no interesst in others. I am prepared to spend the rest of my life alone. If I was on a deserted island I would be ok, I would interact with animals becase they have no demands and they cannot hurt me. But even if there warent animals I would still be ok with that. I am empty inside.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
@Dancewithme1983 Yup, I feel u
hotfrancisbacon 3 months ago
@BlazeCyndaquil exactly!
I'd probably be diagnosed with this disorder but I don't see it as a disorder at all, just humans trying to "normalising" everyone. Just because 9/10 people have a strong desire to form personal relationships, doesn't mean the 10th person has a disease or personality disorder, maybe they've seen through the facade/game/trick :) I'm choosing a life of solitude and I have pretty high confidence/self-esteem (I think) because I've weighed up pro's and con's rationally :)
6467103 7 months ago
This complement of 'flaws' is only a disorder, if you view society as a superior functioning organism. It isn't. Society is loud, uncouth and ego-centric. Like a child begging for attention. The varying degrees of schizoid tendancies should be appreciated as a viable function of an adaptive animal, creativity high on the agenda. Society doesn't actually 'feel' enough, it characterizes any sense of otherness as persona non grata. Incidentally, i am schizoid personality type.
zaroffhound 7 months ago
How can I find out if my mom has schizoid personality disorder?
camelot886 7 months ago
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hey i'm schizoid can you subscribe to my channel, so i can feel less schizoid? Thanks!
mcarrasco512 7 months ago
What's with you idiots calling this a disorder? I have these "symptoms" but I'm fine with life it's enjoyable. Some of the instances you give are wrong anyway. I can fake interest in a relationship whether it's platonic or if it's between a family member. I'm looked at as antisocial within my own family and by friends whom I don't keep in contact with, but if I ever DO have to confront them I can completely fabricate a whole meaningless conversation. It's duty I don't care for but I'm able to do
HawaiiMclovin69 7 months ago 13
@HawaiiMclovin69 I am the exact same way.. Keep in mind this is a text book definition and is based on the extreme case.. in reality people which SPD (or any personality 'disorder') fall into a wide range. I am on the low end of the spectrum.
heckubiss1 3 months ago
@HawaiiMclovin69 that's exactly my case. please read my other comment and tell me if that's right it would be nice to know.
badalex17594 3 months ago
@badalex17594 that's partially the case for me, I start relationships with girls but I'll just end up not talking to them because it's too much to keep up conversations I don't care about with them. It'll go on for weeks till their frustrated. I don't enjoy self-evaluation or putting it out there on a platform for everyone to see anyway so I'll stop there. Sorry for the delayed response.
HawaiiMclovin69 2 months ago
@HawaiiMclovin69 thanks man
badalex17594 2 months ago
@HawaiiMclovin69 You must be young...
ultraNF 1 month ago
@HawaiiMclovin69
Not everyone is like you. Some of us can't even fake it, especially for longer periods of time.
Metsada007 4 weeks ago
i suffer an exact anhedonic detachment from intense feelings. and am almost always solitary.
hypothesized thoughts and distant demeanor. i did a bunch of net research and a sum of most people under this stigma fall prey to other's projections.
hahaha. and it's not a split. just a long step back from the common reality we share in society.
Abortive 8 months ago
@Abortive To me it sounds like you just have a serious case of being gay and also fat.
k0kidd 7 months ago
Im an aspie. Some similar symptoms but different Ive heard. Thing is I dont have a particurlarly high attention span. My thinking isnt very concrete. Im lazy and I daydream alot. Not typical aspie traits.
PennyDreadful1 8 months ago
Wooo scary!
gbernard23 9 months ago
OK, so the Dune music is awesome, but I'm still posting this little song just for fun
(Sung to the "Cheers" theme)
Sometimes you wanna go,
Where nobody knows your name,
And they don't care you came.
You wanna be where you can see,
The faces look all the same.
You wanna go where nobody knows your name!
ratoim 9 months ago
i think i am actually an avoidant who turned into a schizoid
badalex17594 10 months ago
@badalex17594
Are you sure you are Schizoid? Maybe your need for interaction with others isjust severly surpressed because of the anxiety you feel as an avoidant? I suspect that might be the case with me, but unlike avoidants I´m not hypersensetive to other people, I´m indifferent to others, I have a rich inner life/fantasy, and I feel despair/emptyness all the time. Idk what I am, I am going to seek help just to see what the proffessionals have to say.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
@Dancewithme1983 a psychologist told me that i wasn't. i thought i was one in a moment of strong depression, in which i basically didn't give a fuck about anything or anyone (i think i wrote the comment way before the summer(?)). with time i learnt that no one really gives a fuck about me either, so i can have "fake relationship" and share some things with other people, but not feelings. you know, like making stupid jokes, etc and have a "normal" life. still can't relate to girls normally though
badalex17594 3 months ago
@badalex17594 it's like: i know you're there, i don't care, you don't care either, so let's get on as well as we can. sry for my english.
badalex17594 3 months ago
@badalex17594 What is it about girls that makes you unable to relate to them? I think most men feel that way tbh. I´m so afraid of developing schizofrenia. I honestly don´t belive that schizoids are indifferent. I belive it´s the other way around. They have supressed their emotions due to fear. I read that schizoids are feardriven people, and in my case that may very well be true. I fear that if I stuff things into the subconcious, deal with them alone, or not at all, I´ll get schizofrenia.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
@Dancewithme1983 my problem with girls is that, from a biological point of view, they decide when to "mate" and with whom, so if i tried any sexual approach, they could control me, and i hate being controlled. so what i think is that i'd need to hurt them before they can hurt me. so i could try that and say "fuck you" real quick, but my self-esteem is too low for that. Everytime i think about relating to them i HATE them, but i don't do it in real life, so i don't hate them, i just don't care.
badalex17594 3 months ago
@badalex17594 of course, there are exceptions with girls that i know. this only applies to girls that i consider sexually attractive and potentially dangerous. i hate those when i think about it.
badalex17594 3 months ago
I also suspect that heartache could contribute to SP, but mostly I think it has to do with genetics.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
I discovered this condition recently and I am relieved to be able to give it a name. It also helped me to explain certain behaviors that I had in my life (few friends, little interest about the opposite sex, etc), and the fact I like heavy metal because it contributes to my fantasies of power.
badalex17594 10 months ago
We are perfect to the job of star-travellers... The future is ours. I'm happy the way I am. And I rather be in the company of others just like me. In delightfull quieteness.
texugonervoso 10 months ago
People with high functioning autism usualy want at least some amount of social life. They are just inept at getting one.
milascave2 10 months ago
I heard that people with Schizoid have similar features to that of a person suffering from Autism. In terms of the way the individuals thinks/views the world along with the inability to understand certain social ques. Is there any validity to that?
b1gr1g 10 months ago
Sometimes I feel like an avoidant, sometimes I seem to really feel like a schizoid.
jeffrman777 10 months ago
This is not a "disorder", its just a personality style. Why does many people think that only the most general type of personality is healthy? This narrowing down of human expression, way of thinking and feeling along with the denial of the negative aspects of the human condition is all these pseudo-scientific diagnoses are all about. Social control at its best: if you are not like the most of us, we shall medicalize your difference and "cure" you back into the fold.
eydos 11 months ago 3
@eydos Speaking as a schizoid, I actually wouldn't mind being medicalized into feeling that social relationships have meaning. When you scrape away all the social parts of life, then life is actually fairly meaningless and dull. I think that might be the reason why schizoids more often have intense solitary hobbies. Simply to fill the void that most people fill with relationships. But yeah, you could say that it's a personality type as well as a disorder. Humans are meant to be social.
816bitRemake 11 months ago
@816bitRemake I agree with you mostly. But I prefer not to be cured, if cure means adjustment to something that itself is deeply philosophically problematic. At any rate, its not a medical, its an existential matter.
eydos 11 months ago 5
@eydos
I would say that it´s both an existential and a medical problem. The medical problem is what makes us hypersensetive to the problematic aspects of human bonding. I suspect most SPD:s like me belive that we are all esentially alone, so we might as well skipp the "fake" bonding part, but it is not necessarely fake, maybe our PD makes us unable to feel genuineness in bonding with others.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
@eydos
But you are right, just because SPD is considered a personality disorder doesn´t rule out the fact that perhaps it is only a state of a higher awareness of the human condition and the esential aloneness of us all as well as the blurred limits between self vs. others. But imo to be so hyprsensetive to these existential problems you would have to have experienced traumas concerning these matters as well as have a genetic predisposition for the disorder.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
What is true "bonding" anyway? I remember before developing SPD and being "healthy", bonding with people. Looking back now I can honestly say that it wasall an illusion and all the healthy people are just oblivious to the fact that they´re living in a fantasy just the ame way a schizoid lives in the fantasy in their own head. Where the fantasy takes place doesn´t matter. Nothing is real, not for long anyway.
Dancewithme1983 3 months ago
@Dancewithme1983 I am critical of a notion of "health" derived from a conflation with the notion of "normalcy". Just because a behavior/feeling/thought is singular and not statistically prevalent in a given population within a given culture, does not follow that it must necessarily also be pathological. Psychiatry as opposed to neurology bases its diagnoses on identifiable socio-cultural aversions to certain modes of being and label what is not usual as disorder, equating deviance with illness.
eydos 3 months ago
@eydos Also, the idea that a description of a "human nature" (in this case our herd nature) is also already a prescription is false. Nature, instincts are biological imperatives but given our consciousness we can evaluate them personally as not being necessarily desirable, thus in case of humans a natural imperative is not necessarily also a moral imperative. We choose between natural imperatives we like (bonding, cooperating, etc) and dismiss others clearly due not to yet another drive.
eydos 3 months ago
@Dancewithme1983 that conclusion ("nothing is real") makes me have self-destructive fantasies sometimes, not about suicide, but about destroying everything, including myself. i like violent animation in an epic context, such as anime and other, and heavy metal music, which is also violent. people don't know why i listen to that music though. my friends who also listen to it don't have the same reasons. everything that i like, that creates my fantasy, is my own way to destroy everything.
badalex17594 3 months ago
@eydos They-re always trying to change us. I decide not to permit such an interference anymore.
texugonervoso 10 months ago
@eydos
:) well said.. I enjoyed reading your comment.
trudoll 9 months ago
very neat music what is it?
triptoheaveandho 1 year ago
@triptoheaveandho Film "Dune" - Prophecy Theme
rnk1977 1 year ago
i have a disorder like this, but i'm sure which one it is.
It could be schizoid or schizotypal or even avoidant
personality disorder, i'm just cant make my mind
up which one it is.
totoole67 1 year ago
@totoole67
You cannot self-diagnose yourself, you should ask a professional they will help you if you are indeed in need of it.
AFFILIATIONQC 11 months ago
I believe I am a schizoid cuz I love being alone but I don't have a problem making friends when I have to be around people - like for example, at a party. My problem is I find people way too boring. I wonder why other schizoids prefer to be alone?
luiza2166 1 year ago
@luiza2166 Well for me its just mentally fatiguing. The more people i'm around the more drained I feel I dont know why. I feel like i need my personal space so I can clear my head and think when people try to start conversations with my I feel smothered. Also I just dont see eye to eye with other people. They talk abut irrelevant crap and I want nothing to do with them. It's nice being alone. Relaxing even. Do I wish I was more social? yeah of course but its not worth it.
Dav2ya 1 year ago 2
@Dav2ya I hear ya. I am exactly the same, I feel very drained around people too. Are you overly sensitive to noise or other stimuli? I find noise very annoying, including music. I also can't stand the smell of perfumes. Sometimes I think I am slightly Asperger because of the sensory sensitivity but maybe this is a characteristic of schizoids too.
luiza2166 1 year ago
@luiza2166 Actually music for me is very relaxing. It drowns out alot fo the world and just tune people out if you dont feel like talking to anyone. It's great. as for smell. their are some smells that bother me but their smells that people would agree stink like axe or some other cheap cologne or perfume. I'm not overly sensitive to noise. but if I dont like it and its constant then ya I will get annoyed. Like music I dont like, or someones annoying high pitched laughter. But thats not just me.
Dav2ya 1 year ago
@luiza2166
Last time :)
Schizoids do not 'choose' to be alone, they do not respond to social cues and this is probably due to some chemical imbalance in the brain.
And just being alone doesn't make one have SPD there is a range of criteria... Being a loner is just one small part.
AFFILIATIONQC 11 months ago
@AFFILIATIONQC Yes! I born that way, And it is genetic! My father is the same, my youngest son is just equal.
texugonervoso 10 months ago
@AFFILIATIONQC
I haven't read all the comments to this video, but I sure do appreciate your trying to explain schizoid disorder and what it truly is. I am diagnosed with the disorder and undergoing psychiatric treatment. It's not just being a "loner". It's very hard to explain but it's the total inability to connect on any level with others (including family). Personally, I find the worst aspects of the disorder to be the ahedonia and constant preoccupation with fantasy that I experience.
sdptrify 8 months ago
How is this a disorder? It's just some people like to be alone, that's not a disorder.
00JakeR00 1 year ago
@00JakeR00
Because it's not a conscious choice. When you work with these people what you find is that they are not rationally choosing this as a life, nor do they pick up on social cues --unless you tell them and if better treatments are found - I suspect many of these people would like to be more social/involved in their lives.
If you consciously choose to be alone that's fine - but if you don't even know you are alone in the social sense that's something else altogether.
AFFILIATIONQC 11 months ago
@ryukXsayu27 Well, it's supposed to get worse with time when not undergoing therapy. Stronger medication is rather risky (side-effects tend to be severe). How fast it progresses is the only variable factor.
As for your other concerns, I propose to point people annoying you to educational videos posted by YT user darknightseeker, or to try forum wwwDOTschizoidsDOTnet to find like-minded individuals - self deluding wannabes are a minority there.
MindstormBlue 1 year ago
CD They face a dilemma - stay in their comfort zone and experience sensory deprivation, or venture beyond it to experience wariness and alienation caused by human presence.
@ryukXsayu27 Well, somebody is rather opinionated.
MindstormBlue 1 year ago
@MindstormBlue Of course I am opinionated. I'm furious. Everywhere on the web its always "its a choice so it shouldn't be called a disease," or "I ". Its crazy, we schizoids don't makes those choices, the brain makes those decisions instinctively. I've suffered my whole life from these subconcious confusion. At least Wikipedia had the sense to post the whole story, instead of just the ignorant narcicism.
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@ryukXsayu27 Of course SPD messes up the priorities for people afflicted, but what is it needed to change that? Forcing myself to socialize to please other people made me clinically depressive. Staying in the baseline without experiencing emotional stimulation gets uncomfortable too after several years of self isolation. Subjects of interest are getting few and far between. Positive feedback loop common to other humans seems to be unattainable, and without it slipping to dull routine is assured.
MindstormBlue 1 year ago
@MindstormBlue True, long term cures are, well, non-existent. I've been trying "closest compromise." So far its working like a charm, but will it stick?
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
People with SPD are driven by curiosity and avoidance of potentially hurtful conditions. Curiosity wanes with age, leaving them lacking any significant motivation beyond their immediate needs, which are low on Maslow's hierarchy pyramid. Anhedonia and avolition accompany their life. If you'd see one, you could mistake that person for a wooden mannequin. CDN
MindstormBlue 1 year ago
too fast can't reat that fast
Justen1980 1 year ago
@Justen1980 if you click once anywhere on the video, it will be paused. then, you can un-pause it with single click again.
rnk1977 1 year ago
@Justen1980 if you want to learn something new, to read faster, you can learn speed reading, just a tip...
TheCombineify 6 months ago
Thank you for posting this very informative video!
Accarlson85 1 year ago
I would have to admit here that I would be somebody who has this 'disorder'
note that it is only perceived as a disorder in 'society's' eyes....
I still talk to people and I can still connect with people. I choose not to have many friends because people are so often disappointing.
I am somewhat stoic but I still feel emotion.
I find that solitude can be a blessing in disguise as it betters me as an artist, spiritually, physically, and intellectually.
I just don't like most people.
WanderingRover 1 year ago
hey i wanna be schizoid too. where do i apply?
JovialJuggler 1 year ago
@JovialJuggler ur fuckin dumb
inofe 1 year ago
The only reason I don't talk to people is because I think that they're a bunch of idiots.
MUSICMONSTER14 1 year ago
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There's nothing wrong with being schizoid. Actually, by percentages we're more intelligent than the median IQ.
gumbyzhi 1 year ago
my father has a form of this...it is very difficult for all to reach him...I respect what you all are saying...its just hard to deal with...I'm just doing more research.
rachel7036 1 year ago
Don't you think that people with schizoid realize that the rest of the people are idiots & don't bother interacting with them? Has that ever come to mind?
Our lives are often so busy and on the go, people relate on trivial topics & don't dwell more broader aspects of life. So I think being a schizoid is more of a introverted personality type, but a disorder, I'm not sure. I've known people with this personality and they're active at work settings, but around people they find it hard to relate.
Gonji 1 year ago
@Gonji Thre's nothing wrong with being schizoid. Actually, by percentages we're more intelligent than the median IQ.
gumbyzhi 1 year ago
Im a schizoid aiming to be a psychiatrist. Go figure... I don't mind company as long as the person isn't a social butterfly and if need be can have small talk but always keep a wall up.. I have a beautiful fiance, and am living a good life. It is no way a bad thing if you are comfortable with it.In fact i feel i have more of an ability to focus on college without the care of social interactions such as parties etc etc. I never feel the need to be accepted nor care for that matter. ....
Gtrplyr1 1 year ago
Most of the ppl w/ disorders are happy. Leave them alone,stop labeling people who are different and calling it a disorder. besides, who is to say that getting a job and wasting your one life on it is normal.Who is to say that doing what you want to do is wrong.the medical practitioners are sick in the head. They diagnose anything original and different as disorder.thats why everyone is so god dam insecure and fucked in the head. what we need is freedom in every sense of the word.
vJpRIzM 1 year ago
So if u ask me, about 80% of the world has a disorder, the disorder of not being able to think for themselves and following the herd. Iknow its a bit off-topic but ithink its quite important to realize it, for futher understanding of personality disorders.
RevellAndRepend 1 year ago
Lot of people often forget that its society and standards that labels u, while theres a big chance the labeled person can be more sane than the majority of the world these days.
Its kinda lame to think schizoid people are all the same, not willing to start any relationships or w/e, and always want to be alone.. For example ive got a girl and a job but its pretty much the world that became retarded and wrong, then again the majority of the people dont realize this and think Im all strange lol -
RevellAndRepend 1 year ago 2
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So you put the English text low down on the scree where it woud be covered by the Swedish Text. Have you got Dumb Personality Disorder?
arcanacelestia 1 year ago
@arcanacelestia you can turn off subtitles with one click on "CC" icon, less time than writing this rude comment.
rnk1977 1 year ago 25
@rnk1977 hm, never knew that, I thought the comment was funny albeit rude
cmpdas 10 months ago
@arcanacelestia hahahahaha that comment was so stupid that it is funny again.
sempreoderlibera 1 year ago
@arcanacelestia
ARE YOU CALLING ME DUMB?????? GOSH, LIKE I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT BEFORE!
mcarrasco512 7 months ago
I do not believe in a lot of this psychiatry/DSM bullshit of calling personality traits diseases. But, there are discernible characteristics that closely match the descriptions of these so called disorders..However, they do cause a lot of pain, I love my wife dearly. I've tried 10 years to get into her heart and to open her heart to me. I am very lonely, and so sad for her because I want her to know what it feels like to be fully human. To experience, wonder, excitement, empathy, dreams.
iamlostinindy 1 year ago
So, looking at all the symptoms and such, I have to ask, what is so bad about it? Just because a person almost never wants to be around people doesn't mean that it is bad. Or having thoughts that don't agree with society? Who said there was something wrong with that?
BlazeCyndaquil 1 year ago 24
@BlazeCyndaquil Because its not "normal" with the standards of society, i know what you are saying. And actually, its said that thinking that theres nothing wrong with it, is another symptom.
blakscull 1 year ago
@blakscull You can also say that just randomly making up disorders to explain the actions of people who don't act like everybody else is just making up disorders. Clearly, being a personality, disorder, the disorder is the kind of person that they are, so you would be saying that the person isn't right in who they are. When people talk about personality disorders in the brain, I think of it just how someone developed their personality differently based on parts of the brain, not an error in code
BlazeCyndaquil 1 year ago
@BlazeCyndaquil
no this is not who i am! >< i am only 16yo ,, when i was 14yo i was so sociel i used to go shopping and meet people from cafes, etc. but now....i feel i am helpless i DO want to be treated...i want to be that happy 14yo again....i fell in love few months ago....but i couldnt come to my senes to ever get into a relationship with him...i found myself having sex with a stranger because ther was no friendship involed he didnt even know my name. i been out my house 5 times this year
mizuki3 1 year ago
@mizuki3 I could be said to be schizoid, but I was a very different person years ago, but I have no obligations against the symptoms at least regarding myself. So, maybe I wouldn't know, but I would just say you have a bit of internal conflict. If you want to be who you were, just be who you were, unless you like being who you are now. Just find a way to kill that part of yourself it you don't like it. It isn't hard, for me at least.
BlazeCyndaquil 1 year ago
@BlazeCyndaquil icc,,, im not going to move forward and finish wat i started. if its possible. u know a few months ago i was ruined...and i didnt know why or wat to say the person i loved asking me why i cant see him,, emotionaly i wanted to but mentally i couldnt walk out my door and i cryed because i didnt know wat was stopping me untill a test told me and the symtoms were accurate to my actions and thoughts T_T i have noone but myself..friends means nothing to me
mizuki3 1 year ago
@BlazeCyndaquil I think it's about caring about other people around you.And it doesn't matter if you are in a group or solo.Something happened to me few days ago and your comment sprang up to my mind. I was sitting after hours of hiking and waiting for the bus by a mountain hut and bad weather started to form. The bench was beneath the roof and sheltered from the rain. And some guy with his company sat beside me.. and they just pushed me out. It was like I was alone there and so I didn't matter
rnk1977 1 year ago
@BlazeCyndaquil It is NOT bad at all, people just want you to think it is, so they can have control of individuals. It´s sickening.
yupiie 1 year ago
@yupiie You're lying, SPD causes loneliness, cynicism, deludedness, laziness selfishness, sexual deviancy, stubbornness, odd speech patterns, poor decision-making and narcicism.
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@ryukXsayu27 Yeah, but how are you gonna define it... these symptoms all happen in varied instances in all human beings that I know of...
yupiie 1 year ago
@yupiie Yet case studies find them to be a constant reality for many/most schizoids.
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@ryukXsayu27 I´m all for science and all that, but I think we have to be careful when classifying people like this.
I think some people who have those symptoms are "crazy", others who develop the same things may not be... it´s a very thin line there.
yupiie 1 year ago
@yupiie I know many schizoids in school and my family, and I'd say its not case-by-case, but circumstance. Unless one has a very stabled or isolated life, day-to-day emotional proding will undoubtably cause irrational response. Theres also uncomfortableness w/ primal emotions, like sex, so many patients fantasize about "watching" instead of actual sex. I've read that narcisim and selfishnes are kind of intrinsic w/ SPD, since schizoids don't feel dependent on others.
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@ryukXsayu27 When you look really close, who is not unhealthy? normal people live in a state of mania all the time, going about stuff, doing this, doing that, crying for loved ones... it´s all about standards and paradigm.
yupiie 1 year ago
@yupiie A last reason, and from my experince, the most common, is misdiagnosing symptoms. If you look through the comment pages, you see alot of "I just don't talk to people because they are noisy/lame/mean etc." Which of course is nonsense, you aren't talking to people because you have SPD, yet everyone makes up those kind of excuses. What's dangerous is to take these excuses too seriously... which is probably our biggest danger.
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@BlazeCyndaquil
The bad thing about it is that this personal sanctuary is both beautiful and painfully lonely at the same time. Yet, when you interact with people (a form of connection with the outside world) it only pushes one deeper into this personal sanctuary. In the external world a schizoid lacks emotions, however, internally one is filled with sensitivity. Its this constant tug of war that makes it "bad".
zartic4life 1 year ago
@BlazeCyndaquil Great point... as most psychological disorders... it's just a label to categorize and understand patients... Its only a problem (disorder) If it creates disfunction, distress, or impairment..
Btw.. Every1 you know will display some and many types of psych disorders
TyShep06 1 year ago
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Ribnobs 9 months ago
@Ribnobs That isn't what the "symptoms" define. The symptoms are basically not being around people and having unorthodox ideas. If that defines "being trapped inside yourself", I feel very sorry for you. What do you mean by "trapped inside yourself"? That can be interpreted many ways, and I don't see any of them that are always interpreted as being scary. Scary is an opinion, so therefore, there could be someone that enjoys this "trapped inside yourself" feeling.
BlazeCyndaquil 9 months ago
@BlazeCyndaquil oh, I'm just going by what people themselves have told me, haha. Maybe I misinterpreted it, my bad.
Ribnobs 9 months ago
@BlazeCyndaquil I sure do. Put yourself in my shoes. I LOVE TO BE WITH PEOPLE. I wish I could be with them all day. But I AM AFRAID- They could ask about me. I might have to share something personal, reveal something emotional, may have to say how I feel. Or respond to an emotion with my own emotion. This is a problem with feelings that impairs interpersonal relationships. It's real, devastating, and is a cause of suicide. I see how it may be hard to understand, but it is real.
TWILLSmann 8 months ago in playlist personality disorders
@TWILLSmann That seems like a bit of a predicament. My point is that a lot of symptoms for disorders tend to be something that you could use just to categorize people who really have nothing wrong with them. I really would like to be able to rephrase that last sentence also, but it just doesn't work. By that I mean to say that you really can't say that some person 'has something wrong with themself''.
BlazeCyndaquil 8 months ago
I have to agree with you. Except society has been led to believe these traits as negative and unattractive. You don't make many friends with a poker-face or a person dissattached. It's usually seen as shy or timid but thats not always the case.
doublej706 7 months ago
@BlazeCyndaquil
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"Unlike people with anxiety disorders, who know they have a problem but are unable to control it, people with personality disorders generally are not aware that they have a problem and do not believe they have anything to control"
rnk1977 7 months ago
Which is what I am by the way... You should do a search on covert type... It is often misdiagnosed as ADHD because it has a lot of similar signs but typically more severe but with the added hell of being extremely sensitive
bahnspl 1 year ago
Although I think the info you are trying to relay is good.... it isn't 100 percent accurate. There is covert type which constantly try to please people.still have a lot of the inner feelings and extreme social anxiety... But they are impulsed to say things to get positive responses and it looks like lot like avoidant but its not
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bahnspl 1 year ago
Does anyone know of any good jobs for schizoids? I'm intelligent and i have good qualifications but I'm finding it really hard to find work because I refuse to take a job that involves working with people.
EmilyRose2010x 1 year ago
@EmilyRose2010x I know the feeling :) May I suggest night receptionist in a hotel?
rooflee 1 year ago
my father has some of those traits..unfortunately he's getting alot worse to the point where just having a conversation is impossible now....I look for answers whereever I can find some to help us cope with his problems...
rachel7036 1 year ago
I don't get the whole "creative" schizoid idea. As an EXTREMELY flat affect schizoid, I can't see why a person with SPD, who would apparently lack emotion or hobbies or ambition, would be creative or bother making art. Could somebody help me out here?
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@ryukXsayu27 Schizoids with no distractions can be entirely focused on one subject which possibly could allow them to stay on problems for a long time. Some historians believe Albert Einstein possibly had Asperger Syndrome, a similar psychological condition (due to the fact he had difficulty in social relationships), allowing him to have intense thoughts while bored at the patent office working on his theory of relativity
combatdstar 1 year ago
@combatdstar lol I never get "bored" though so..
ryukXsayu27 1 year ago
@ryukXsayu27 You also need talent and to get pleasure from performing/persuing the art form.
rooflee 1 year ago
@rooflee Yeah, I've read that