Part 1 of 22 - Muslim - Christian Dialogue - Dubai 2009

[enlightenedtruth]

jesus akbar

[AHMAD68012]

U IDIOTS GOD IS ALLAH OK THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND MOHHAMED IS HIS PROPHET SO DONT SAY JESUS IS GOD A MAN CANT BE GOD BECAUSE IS NOT A MAN AND DONT GIVE THE BULLSHIT THAT GOD AND JESUS IS ONE JESUS SAID THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD HE DIDNT SAY THERE IS ONE GOD AND ME

[fwfassett]

Messiah prophecy - Isaiah 53:1-3 "Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not." BibleGateway (dot) com

[nazifdaniel]

we have quraan and rational thinking(aqal)

[sduia]

If uncle Ahmed Deedat was alive, he would knock out this Christians withwin few minitues....We are missing him. May Allah grant him the highest place of Paradise.

[jigglyfidda125]

religion is bullshit

[Biblewordofgod]

For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:5-11)

[i7o999]

Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber

[deep7100]

how do you know allah is god? have you seen him? do you know anyone who seen him? because i know someone who seen him, Jesus christ. If you know who's jesus christ then you know who god is. mohammed never seened allah but jesus seen god, and the god that jesus spoke about is his father and not allah because allah as muslims claim doesnt have a son.

[rahatkhan]

@deep7100 Jesus himself can do nothing "John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. "

[fwfassett]

@rahatkhan - While Jesus was on earth He always submitted to Father God, probably because He was living in a human "tent" and His vision was limited by that human body. He was trying to explain the nature of God, but the listeners were uneducated plain people, so He had to keep it very simple.

[rahatkhan]

@fwfassett man whats wrong with you, GOD can never be limited! 

[latifouro1981]

@fwfassett give me at lest one major and minor prophecy about jesus

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - When - Daniel 9:25-26 From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' Born where - Micah 5:2 "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video... you know what stop saying what you don't know . a human being is mortal . and god is immortal. there's nothing in this universe that is mortal and immortal at the same time ok . stop this comedy . we are not in the circus here. when we read books about god we need to make sense

[Fi7h]

@deep7100 how do you know that someone whos supposedly seeing jesus is not satan?You cant prove its jesus.and btw...Muhammed(saw) went more closer to God then jesus.Muhammed(saw) went to the heavens went two cubits length from God and received the 5 times prayers as a gift to the muslims in one night.He met all the prophets on his journey.Like it or not...This is the truth.

[chrstsafety13]

Jesus is god.

[tatleman68]

@chrstsafety13 If jesus is God, who did pray to? When he died, so God died too, because you say he is God!!?

[fwfassett]

@tatleman68 - Jesus talked with (prayed) Father God around dawn, probably to plan the day. I admit the triune (3 part) God is hard to grasp. You are composed of body, soul, and spirit, so is Jehovah/YHWH. He had to come in a human body to be able to pay for the sins of all men and women, to be their Redeemer. When you die, only your body dies - your soul and spirit live forever - in hell or in heaven. His body died, but 3 days later was alive, proving Father God accepted His sacrifice.

[latifouro1981]

@fwfassett you cannot compare GOD with man. and i would like to correct you that soul is another name of spirit. for exemple jesus soul is the spirit that that was inspired to mary

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - No, I do not agree that a person's soul is the same as their spirit. Soul is like your entire personality - the culmination of all your experiences and DNA. The spirit is breathed into a baby by God, at conception or at birth.

Jesus' body (not His Spirit) was conceived by the Holy Spirit of God -"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." Luke 1:35

[valmir111]

@chrstsafety13 your God died i feel sory for you 

[latifouro1981]

@chrstsafety13 listen eating driking and sleeping is a weakness . and jesus do all this. how can you worship a powerless god

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - Jesus had a human body when He was on earth, so He could sacrifice His body to pay for the sins of the world. Before then He existed in heaven as part of Elohim, and after His death and resurrection He returned to heaven at the right hand of Father God. He is not powerless, as you will learn when you face Him in judgement. "Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." Matthew 28:18 Read Bible at BibleGateway (dot) com.

[latifouro1981]

how come a person can be weak and strong at the same time? how come a person be mortal and immortal at the same time? listen God has certain qualities which can never be shared with human being and jesus is part of human being . and none of the people in the old testament knew that jesus is part of elohim.how come a god just god teach different things from people to people from generation to generation.

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video...because moses , abraham worship GOD alone they never knew that jesus is part of elohim so will you say god lie those people ? because they are the first people to receive god teachings. and GOD will teach them that " i 'm unique god" and then come to teach people in the time of jesus " i'm unique god in 3 " i don't tink so. this is discrimination among people

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video... and don't forget that in the day of judgement people of BC and people of AD will be present . so the message of GOD must be consistent and accurate in all generation.

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - Yes on the Day of Judgement all who lived and don't believe in Jesus, the Son of God, will be judged. They rejected the Son of God - what do you think they will receive? He didn't reject them, they rejected Him.

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video...and you said jesus die for the sins of the world. if GOD want jesus to die for the sins of the world he would allow him to do so before adam was created and evrybody in this earth would be perfect.

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - So you believe you should be able to tell God when He should have sent Jesus to die? There was no need for Him to die before Adam sinned. Jesus did not make us perfect when He died, He made us forgiven sons and daughters of God.

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video...and don't forget that moses and his people never knew jesus , abraham and their generation never knew jesus so you mean those people will go to hell because jesus didn't die for their sins. let me tell you this the real salvation is to recognize the only true GOD without associating any partner with him . ask for forgiveness f your sins . that is the message god gave from generation to generation and can never be changed

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - The Old Testament Patriarchs are saved by faith. See Hebrews 12. They knew the Messiah would come and looked forward to His coming. If you read the Bible, you will see the Redeemer/Savior Son of David prophesied from the time of Abraham through His birth and death, Even the "wise men" from the East knew of the prophecies. They knew he would be born in Bethlehem, but would be called out of Egypt. The prophecies in Isaiah and Psalms were all fulfilled too.

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video...when jesus said all authority has been given to me in heaven and in earth he mean by that to follow him and without him it is perdition. and every prophet in his own generation was given this authority. the same thing as he said "i'm the way " . abraham was the way in his generation. moses was the way in his generation.

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - You have made so many assumptions about God and Jesus. Have you even read the Bible? Read the Gospel book of John and you will understand more. Jesus said He is the Alpha & Omega, the Aleph Tav - first and last of all creation. He was and is before Abraham was born, and He said Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus come. God allowed mankind to try to keep the Law so we would realize we need a Savior/Redeemer - we can never keep the Law perfectly. At the right time Jesus came.

[latifouro1981]

@fwfassett and you said the old testament patriarchs are saved by faith . my question is faith in who? you will not tell me they are saved by faith in jesus because they never knew him even seen him. you can say all these prophecy talk about jesus even something that the old testament said was not fulfill i can give at leat 2 prophecy that people think that it is about jesus and it is not fulfilled

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - There are over 300 prophecies by minor prophets in the Old Testament, and 60 by major prophets - about the Messiah/Anointed One. All are fulfilled by Jesus, from the time of His birth, where He was born, what He would do, how He would die, where He would be buried, and His resurrection. No other person fulfills those prophecies. See Isaiah 53. Simeon and Anna were 2 prophets who saw the promised Messiah baby Jesus in the Temple.

[latifouro1981]

Respond to this video...that doesn't mean all authority is given to jesus so people from the BC will go to hell . no jesus is talking about the people who lived in his own lifetime . that if anybody don't follow him he will go to hell. when you read the bible try to be broader and universal don't try to explain everything focusing jesus

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - If you would read the Bible, I think you would understand more. Start with the book of John. You can read online for free at BibleGateway (dot) com. Jesus is not dead, so His "lifetime" is not over. He was resurrected and sits at the right hand of Father God. He will return, coming on the clouds with great glory. Even the Qur'an says He is not dead.

[latifouro1981]

@fwfassett i congratulate you to recognize that jesus is not dead . but you said jesus said he is alpha and omega . did jesus spoke greek ? no he spoke aramaic .and alpha and omega has nothing to do with aramaic . how can you attribute another language to somebody who doesn't even knew a word of it?

[fwfassett]

@latifouro1981 - I not only said Jesus said "I am the Alpha & Omega (Greek translation) but also Aleph Tav (Hebrew). He grew up speaking Aramaic, but now that He is in heaven, at the right hand of His Father God He speaks whatever He wants. If He was able to bring Lazarus back to life (and 2 others), couldn't He speak any language?

[Jesusmetalhead]

@deep7100 Allah is the arabic term for God. Arab Christians also refer to God as Allah and Jesus as Allah.

[mohdjamlimustafa]

@deep7100 If Allah (swt) can be seen than he is not god because Allah is formless.If Jesus is god than god is man.You know that man is very frai how ever powerful he is.How can a figure like man can create this universe.

Jesus was not ready to die at the stake.Why didnt he escape himself if he is god.At least Ismail the son of Abraham was courages enough to allow himself to be the sacrifical lamb

[supasye]

@deep7100 actually jesus would have never said god or father because he didnt speak english. god back then would have been called something close to allah, probably illah according to the language they spoke in jesus area at that time. the god that muslims talk about according to muslims, is the same god that jesus talks about because jesus is also a very important figure in islam. christians many times prey through jesus to get to god, mslms prey directly to god. which 1 makes more sense?

[deep7100]

@supasye it doesnt matter what language he spoke because it doesnt change the fact that he still called god his own father in hebrew n aramaic. n if u believe jesus is a prophet then you have to believe everything he said is correct n the truth. when he said, "unless you believe i am he, you will die in your sins." this is 1 of the most confirming statements he made concerning his divinity n godhood. you guys always make the mistake of separating jesus from da father. so i will ask u this then,

[deep7100]

@supasye when god was working on the creation, it says and the spirit of god moved over the waters n he said let there be light. so i would like to ask you who was moving over the waters because it doesnt say god himself but the spirit of god? so would you say that was god or not? n about prayer, didnt jesus your prophet say whatever you ask for in my name shall be given unto you. so i guess that means you have to pray through jesus so that da father can answer your prayers.

[i7o999]

can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).

Quran 2:225

[EdwardXI]

Very informative conference. I wonder why I never knew about it. One thing though, I think the host should refere to the speakser as Mr.Zawadi and Mr. Anyabwile, don't you think..? Its just a sign of respect for these great speakers.

[muslim9x9x]

are u busy Bassam? You haven't updated ure site in a long while. Hopefully ure working on a new article, I have some books you can quote.

[bfoaliali]

i was wondering the same thing as well