the BLACK MAN / WOMAN are what they are ---- homosapiens.
allah / god / elohim etc., are far from being human...too many of creeds out there are just as TWISTED as those that made the christ into a god...the sane must have understanding ( * NOT some bent views that are indoctrinating the ignorant / lonely souls )...
the sane MUST read in-between the lines in order to grasp the real message ( i and the father are one --- christ. a FOOL ( the jews did) will take that as face value).
@afterray Why don't you produce your God that you say is not human. Who is that mystery God? There is no mystery god the son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years and were unable to find that so-called mystery god. so they have agreed that the only God is the Son of Man. So they lose no time (search for that that does not exist.) Lest see how much time you waste. Peace
"son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years"
r u ok ?
r u ok ?
do u know how old is the human ? ( bio 101).
true. the human is always on a quest for further understanding --- too bad allah is beyond that quest / understanding 6:103.
* sure, u may play around with ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m ( by definition) all day long ( wow says the unlearn). BUT, the qur'an is clearly against ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m...
@afterray "do u know how old is the human ? (bio 101)." you asked. According to Allah the human being is trillions of old. But according to the european mans ideology the evolution of the human from the homo sapiens 500,000 years ago and homo erectus 2,500,000 years ago.
@afterray Sura 29 ver 5 "whoever hopes to meet with Allah the term of Allah is surely coming. Sura 89 ver 21 and 22 Nay, when the earth is made to crumble to pieces, and thy Lord comes with the angels, ranks on ranks. 84 ver 6 "O man, thou must strive a hard striving (to attain) to thy Lord, until thou meet Him". 83 ver 6 "The day when men will stand before the Lord of the Worlds." 75 ver 22 and 23 Some faces that day will be bright Looking to their Lord. You misunderstanding of 6:103.
mind u, "son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years"
r u ok ?
* to deny the existence of god (based on the intangible science --- mystery) is just as as ridiculous as one saying that the number system ( be it + / -) is a fake because the end of numbers is a mystery...OH, the actual shell of the universe is BASED on theory --- in other words, science believe in their speculative data...so in essence, the mystery is THERE too..
@afterray Rev 10 v 7 but in the days of the seventh angel when shall begin to sound , the mystery of God should be be finished as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Habakkuk 3 verse 3 " God came from Teman(arabia). 1 John 3 verse 2 " beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be; but we know that when he appears, we shall be like him; for we SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS. Can you a spirit? Ex 24 ver 10 " and they saw the God of Israel;" How can he be seen?
@eljahsiemallah 3) mind u, "son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years" r u ok ? "Who is that mystery God?" * funny how u should ask a Q, that also has the A. ( uhh). "Lest see how much time you waste." ? one could never "waste time" why, because the cosmos can't be wasted ( uhh). * to use ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m ( by definition ( that's all it is)) as an A to ur Q, is like saying the the smallest prime number is 1. allah is far from being the blackman.
" Why don't you produce your God that you say is not human" ?
* for the same reason that i can't possible theorize that LUCY (yeah. lets go to africa ) is proof that the blackman fits ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m...
u can wish whatever u please about allah and cheery pick verses to "prove " ur point...the qu'ran is here to fix BENT creeds...i suggest u refrain from the bible. WHY, because that cannon promotes SLAVERY... oh, elijah.m is a slave name...what !
@afterray LUCY? This is the best you can do to prove you concept of God? The God of the Bible and Quran is manifested in the physical form as a MAN. Come to the Light. Don't be like those who "worship what they know not and are easily lead in the wrong direction but hard to be lead in the right".
those black statues that the man is reffering to when he says this black statue is a god that black statue is a god and just cuz they had black statues DONT MAKE THEM REAL GODS! theres one god those statues were idols false gods they were the reason we blacks are cursed to this day,cuz we refused to worship the one true god and this video is incorrect as hell its the devil trying to fake us out,wake up brothas n sistas of all colors
@jimmybarnes7777777 and this vid has the the sale out white boys trying to teach us wrong and no man is a god how dare you even consider the thought!its sinful to even think that ,your a mere man nothing and lowly ,full of sin pray n hope the true god forgives you for even thinkn that were all people of god and we all need to forget to hate and live in peace so we may all be saved
You guys are fools & no man is God. Farrakhan quotes out of the Bible all the time & the Qur'an is clearly called the Last Revelation. So if the Qur'an is the last revelation, why the hell is your leader teaching from a respected but clearly unauthenticated text? I know my history & I know my Religion as a Muslim (who follows the Qur'an & Sunnah ONLY). I know who & what I am, but I am damn sure not God. You follow the word of a white Arab who had a record & EM who elaborated on a good ideology.
@SunniMuslim87 lol Farrakhan quotes the Quran all the time. He quotes the Bible because its apart of the revelation of God. Sunni muslims on the other hand burn the bible and instead follow fabricated "hadith" that calls blacks "rasin heads" and talks about the prophet (pbuh) laying with somebody elses wife while she picks lice out his hair. Thats ridiculous. Sufi wisdom: No man is God, but God is a man. Islam came from Africa and was here before the white man put his hands on it, remember that.
SEEING THE REALITY OF THE MATTER CLEARLY, I WILL NOT MAKE AN APOLOGETIC EXPLANATION DISTINGUISHING GOD FROM ALLAH AND THEREBY ACQUIESCE IN THE FALSE VIEW THAT ALLAH IS A MORE SACRED NAME THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO BLACK PEOPLE. THE BLACK NATION WILL NO LONGER BE SPOOKED OUT OF THE REALITY THAT WE ARE ALLAH JUST BECAUSE SOME NEW RACE OF SEMITES WERE REVOLTED BY THE VERY NOTION AND HAVE FORMED RELIGIOUS COMMANDMENTS AND DOCTRINES CRIMINALIZING OUR SACRED TRUTH. WE, THE BLACK NATION GAVE YOU ISLAM
god can't be a man ( human / blackman) if he's greater then any man...it's like saying negative one ( -1) is greater then another negative one ( -1) -- it makes no sense ( only to fools)...
* the NOI members need to take- their- heads- out- of- the -sand and realize that in hebrew, grammatical gender is NOT and indicator of gender...
@afterray Exodus 15 v 3. The Lord is a MAN(ish) OF War. You can't make God anything other then man. The hebrew word for ish means man. You need to take your head out of the sand and realize that.
@eljahsiemallah you have a point ( not --so-- fast). BUT, here's a better point --- i hope it will save you from hitting the concrete floor (head first). ruach, is spirit in hebrew ( look it up). this ruach is the same found in gen. 1:2. this ruach is actually feminine " she" ( ACCORDING to the hebrew grammar (look it up)).
an imbecile / unfamiliar with basic hebrew grammar will say that ruach of elohim is a women...not that i mind.
@afterray Ruwach as I manifested to you already. doesn't mean women. "5347. Neqebah; this fem. heb . noun has its source naqab in 5344. IT MEANS A WOMAN, A FEMAL, WHETHER HUMAN...OR ANIMAL...THE OPPOSITE OF MALE". Lexical aids to the old testament. Unlike your Ruwach definition, this word does mean female. Like the word Iysh means man. These languages including arabic have masculine and feminine nouns. Even inanimate objects such as doors, houses, cars are referred to as such. Is woman a car?
dude. stop falling on the ground and keep it real. last time. ruah is a feminine hebrew noun ( google it --- i have no reason to play around with grammar (* in order to suite a BENT creed) i don't row like that).
@eljahsiemallah with basic understanding of the hebrew ruach ( technically "she"), found in gen.1:2. a f-o-o-l will say that this pronoun is indicative to its meaning ( mind you. we are dealing with a DIFFERENT language --- UHH)
so. if we were to play around and say that ish is "he" and ruach is "she", then YOUR spirit, is woman...
sorry, you and your ignorance ( playing around with ish ( i've seen that crappy NOI page) have hit the concrete floor head first...
@afterray Damn. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. "7307, Ruwach; this fem. Heb noun derives from 7306. IT MEANS AIR FOR BREATHING, AIR THAT IS BEING BREATH, BREATH OF THE NOSTRILS, SNIFFING, SNORTING, THE BREATH OF ONES MOUTH...RUWACH CAME TO MEAN THE ENTIRE IMMATERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAN..." Lexical aids to the old testament. No where is it said that ruwach means female. Although it can refer to a person as a prophet of God. It could be male or female. The word itself doesnt mean female.
AGAIN. ruach ( spirit) is a feminine noun in hebrew ( google it -- i NEVER said it meant a woman ( come on now. keep it real). * this is ur game. u try hard to manipulate the"he / allah" into a human being). this ruach is to found throughout the ot. ie., gen. 41:38 / ezek.1:12.
ruach is no exception to"ENTIRE IMMATERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAN" why, because animal also have it . gen. 6:17 / ecc. 3:19.
@afterray Of course ruach is a feminine noun. What is your point for manifesting that then? It is not hard at all to show God is Man. Exodus 15 verse 3 clearly makes that point. Rocks, plants, minerals all have aspect of the human incorporate within them. However they are not equal to humans. Animals have a degree of consciousness however not the degree that humans have.
elohim / allah is far from being the blackman period !
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* elijah's / clarance's theological views of the originalman ( "him / we / us king" ( bible) OR "we / us / our" (qur'an) are based on fragile , spurious clouded part of the cognitive...
@afterray You say " Ruah(wind/spirit/life) is Not elohim himself." I concur. Nor is it a female or women as you so adamantly attempted to prove. However Elohim which is a masculine Hebrew noun " 430 ...refers to rulers or judges with divine connections...a god or goddess...a man in a position like a god." Leixcal aids to old testament. The Blackman being God is pure truth and can be proven. However the mystery god immaterial invisible far apart from creation is unproven.
s-u-r-e many will appreciate ur "convincing data".
* u c, science ( no doubt is amazing) is mandatory with the ontological argument...the men at the labs will ever continue to attempt putting allah under a microscope n then say, we got u...funny how the l-i-m-i-t-e-d mind(s) operates.
the characteristics of the universe r ALSO based of t-h-e-o-r-y ( by definition.funny how this world also has theo = god in gk).
the laws ( * yeah. these phenomenal laws made themselves right ?) that govern the behavior of the pure intelligent vibrating protons shock the physicists --- u bet. these laws are a mystery for those that appreciate the essence of this universe -- sura yaseen 38 / zariyat 47 etc.
@afterray Ish literally means man. Ruach doesn't mean woman. So your example does not equate. Attempt a better example cause that one is null and void of validity.
@afterray " 376 Iysh; this mas, Heb noun...IT MEANS A MAN, A MALE, A HUSBAND.." Lexical aids to the old testement. The Hebrew Greek Key study bible. This is not just a masculine gender word it like safer(you said). It actually means man period.
@eljahsiemallah the fact that your ignorance is clear ( playing around with ish ( you probably don't even know the first hebrew letter -- wanting to sound smart ( ish) with the hebrew language. pllllease).
* YOU. yes you, are no different then the idiotic 5%ers that go around saying that allah stands for an arm, leg, leg, arm, head.
@afterray And that is your answer for the word Ish for the Lord? Its clear that you can't refute this statement with any opposing evidence. The first letter of the Hebrew is the same as Arabic alef. The same as Proto-Canaanite, Nabatean, Syriac. Allah in arabic is Alef lam lam Alef Ha. In english its Allah. Arm Leg Leg Arm Head. In the Quran Al Ikhlas it says Gaf lam Huwa Allah. Huwa means he. Meaning a male. Im am a member of the nation of Gods and Earths. However a idiot I am far from.
@afterray Alef Lam Lam Alef Ha are the Arabic letters contained in the word Allah period. And Huwa in the quran means he or it. He as in a male and It as in a thing. You say " the "he" mentioned in the qur'an is far from the he / male / human / biology etc., that u and i know of." And what exactly is that type of "he" that you refer to?
"And what exactly is that type of "he" that you refer to?"
that's a good Q that requires a clear A ( i think) :
the "he" can't be he. WHY, because ( again), god is greater then any man [ he / him / masculine ] - job 33:12. ALSO ( again), there's NONE like him -- 112:4
the equation simplifies ITSELF !
sure. u may ignore these verses and wonder WHY they contradict the masculine noun...my point is explicit...i will rest ( i tried) with further expounding.
@afterray Repetition of the verse job 33:12 no more disproves God as a man. However Exodus 15:3 proves that he is. Along on with Pslams 82:6 being spoken by the Supreme God to the Congregation of the Gods in which he himself proclaims them to be Gods sons of the most high. It is your lack of knowledge of God man that causes you to be baffled as to how Elijah, Fard, Allah The Father, and this Black God among his sons could proclaimed God to be man. Blinded by spookism indeed.
@eljahsiemallah i wonder why u can't see / understand the clear discrepancy ( by nature) of ur OWN referred verses ? really.
* true. my knowledge is limited --- i have mush too learn... whenever one talks about "supreme wisdom / mathematics / originalman / allah is the blackman", i try best not to laugh...
"Blinded by spookism" ?
did u know that the core of science, is based on the principles ( by definition) of spookism / mystery...yeah. what exactly is theory?
@eljahsiemallah "baffled as to how Elijah, Fard, Allah The Father, and this Black God" ?
i can appreciate / respect WHY Malcolm x (rip) considered ( * after waking up) elijah's twisted theological creed ( yeah. many of the bent members hated malcolm for speaking his mind...) as a f-a-ke --- pp. 372-373 autobio
true. em cleaned mx...true, as the days elapsed, mx grow and feared not to challenge / question em...hmmm --- em feared mx...anyway,
* i think that it would behoove ur psyche to realize the p-u-r-p-o-s-e of a context -- rather then cherry picking. what ?
1st of all, lets be real --- ur isolated verse is actually based on a SONG that moses / israelites SANG...now, i hope that u have BASIC understanding of music ( vocals / instrumentals).
in their SONG, they spake about god's "right hand / nostril" --- to take this SONG literally, means pure ignorance...
@afterray Are you attempting to symbolize and metaphoricalize all of the verses of the book of exodus? verse 2 of exodus 15 '...He is my God...' according to your explanation should we take "my God" being literally? Song? Verse 3 "the lord is a MAN of war" is literal as much as ish is literally a man. Isaiah 42 verse 13 " The lord shall go forth as a mighty MAN..." The lord is a MAN not a spook. When he comes he comes as a man. Abraham, Jacob, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Moses and 70 elders. saw God.
not even close --- i'm only clarifying...again, it's ( CONTEXT) is only a song...
"The lord shall go forth as a mighty MAN." ?
do u actually think that man is " mighty" ? --- yeah. shall we commence on the atomic bomb / nuclear or the ROLE of FORCE --- napoleon / bismark / hitler...oh, the orders of the triangular black slave trade? --- the creator if this universe is far from such " might man" image...* look at the a-p-a-r-t-h-e-i-d of afica...
music 101: the vocals can be metaphysical / hypothetical / theoretical / metaphorical etc. ie., "i'm bad" -- james brown. NO. it doesn't mean that he's actually a bad guy...
the essence of the SONGS found in the bible can also be also applied to the tons of idioms ie., "if you see me, you see the father --- christ.
* a f-o-o-l will think that he was claiming divinity.
@afterray Divinity means the quality of being divine. Divine means being a deity. Deity means a god or goddess. Pslams 82 ver 6 Allah speaking clearly saying "Ye are Gods". So to be divine is the very command of Allah the nature in which he created us. Simple mathematics. Nothing hard about that.
"Pslams 82 ver 6 Allah speaking clearly saying "Ye are Gods" ?
u r using the hebrew deity -- the name allah is in the qur'an. and to use this hebrew verse with ur acronym ( that's all it is and u know it) is a clear mess up...
* again -- u must look at the context ( come on know) -- OH O, the verse starts with "GOD" ( by the way, i own several bibles, niv, kjv, rsv, asv. NOWHERE is ur verse used with a capital G. it's actually a SMALL g.) this should make u ponder...
iiiiiiiiiii don't understand ! --- u should have realized that there's an obvious degree between the upper case "G" to that of the smaller "g" --- psalms 82 :1- 8 ~ rsv.
** i wonder if u r using psalms via someones cute indoctrinated, spurious biblical views.
look. if whatever movement u r part of, cleaned u / makes u happy / keeps u away from the streets / drugs etc., i applaud u.
my case remains --- the blackman ( or brownman) is far from allah -- maker of this universe...
@eljahsiemallah u may continue to come back with cloudy verse to paint and image of allah / god...i'm far from tying to persuade. i'm only showing u that music / poetry / metaphors can deceive the self...how many of verses are there to support the bent creed of the godhead --- the self is to busy with the ego --- god is not white / black or puerto rican.
* if anything, the hindus are more persistent with their anthropomorphism. true ?
the science of the kabbalah is an interesting one ( * caution is a must).ie., the shi'ur qomah went astray because their perceptions / delusions of the sefirot was too anthropomorphic --- the same can be said about the church fathers and the godhead...ok. enough of this.
what's my point ?
the grammar / idioms require discernment when poring theology...
there are many of plurality of majesty in the bible / quran --- reasoning ( 101) is helpful..
IF, IF, IF...infinite, your equation is sound ( "arm , leg , leg , arm , head = BIOLOGY (allah the blackman")).
*** it's too bad that this BIOLOGY is clearly incomplete. WHAT ? --- without the trunk of the BODY, ur "arm , leg , leg , arm, head" formula falls to the ground ( there's is NO BODY ( by definition -- BIOLOGY))...it's like saying one is alive without a brain...
@afterray Allah is the supreme mind that manifested self in time in the FORM of Arm Leg Leg Arm Head. The form only being the medium thru which he is present in the u-n-i-verse. When he comes he doesn't come as a spook or spirit(wind) but he is present as none other than man himself. The mathematical biochemical equation is only a manifestation of his supreme powers. All Praise due to Allah the Black God.
wrong. why, the mind is limited ( by definition). --- * please. don't tell me that i have to go into the dependent parts of the brain to clarify my point ( bio 101).
allah has a brain ?
that's a cute one --- 6:133 clearly slams such view.
"FORM of Arm Leg Leg Arm Head" ?
AGAIN. there's no "FORM" / biology --- really. can't u c that ur definition of " FORM" l-a-c-k-s the trunk of the manifested biology ? ( * take a close look).
"Al Ikhlas" that's a nice one. lets go there, shall we.
* this verse ( 112: 1-4) should have touched your intellect towards further suspicion of ur "he" / male views of allah. i'l try my best to give u some explicit views of "he / allah" and WHY it's far from a male / human / biology :
U ( human) r NOT the one and only. U ( human) are not eternal. U (human) came out of ur mother. U (human) have others (humans) that are LIKE U ( even animals).
@afterray One means what? A single person. We are all a single person. We are not two or more. We all can technically say "we are one". One also means first. Referring to the first God man which was a self created black man. Al qalam ayat hamsa cashra wa sitta cashra " When OUR messages are recited... and WE shall brand him on the snout." Who is the OUR and Who is the WE in the quran? And why does Al Ikhlas mean "The Unity"? Eternal we are. It is the eternal mind of Allah in us.
it's clear cut that "he / allah" can't be a he. WHY, because i'm am also a he. this would imply that i'm like him / he / allah. right ? WRONG. why, because the evidence clearly reads "none like him".
but wait ! "him" is a male. true. BUT, this particular "him / allah" has none like him period and, i am him. so him can't be him, for i am him also. get it. --- the qur'an is clear cut period
@afterray You say "that would imply that i'm like him/he/Allah.right?" Right. Genesis 1 verse 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. None like doesn't mean what you are attempting to equate it with. There is none like the human being in this planet and in this universe. period. If so then show me that which is like unto us?
"Is it not written in your law, I said. YE ARE GODS?"
Regardless of your skepticism, you can't make the clear revealed word of the Most High untrue. It stands the test of time & the scrutiny of test. Translators try to use god, lord, etc. interchangeably, but the truth is clear with understanding
@DaVinciCode7733 the first borrowed verse, clearly tells you (dc7733) that your view is below the most high...also, it's important to understand the expressions of the hebrew language ie., satan is ALSO a god (2 cor. 4:4). does that mean satan is actually god? of course not.
if one translate "most high" in arabic, it doesn't means allah. true, allah is the most high. * meaning, higher then your brain / higher then the BENT concept of allah being the blackman -- clear cut.
I am currently in pursuance of original translation and philology/etymology of the Hebrew Text and translation. A summary of the subject matter that may provide a far better argument than one I can propose, myself, can be found by searching:
"Dr. Wesley Muhammad's Philology Saviours' Day Lecture ".
Check it out in its entirety, and please respond to me with your thoughts, if you wish.
@DaVinciCode7733 again. one must understand the ways the hebrews spoke, and not take expressions as face value - SELF deception.
when the christ said "you are gods" ( by the way. i don't know where u got the capitals from.if u r going to quote verses, quote correctly ( don't get mad)).
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the stupid jews took his expression literally and were going to stone him ( u (dc7733) should always read the context of verses - * there's a lot -of -light, for FURTHER understanding).
The capitals are used instead of quotes in the King James Translation I quoted from, not a symbol of emotion. Jesus explained that the scriptures are true, and that whomever the scriptures are revealed to and does the Fathers work is a god- a child of the Most High God; making them a Son of God- The Jews of that time had never absorbed that concept prior to Christ, so they took his PERFECT interpretation as Blasphemy, and refused him as the Christ- as they do to this day.
@DaVinciCode7733 the imbecile jews knew that moses was a god to pharaoh (ex. 7:1). so, they were aware of this hebrew style of expression when their KING said "ye are gods" --- they were just humiliating their KING.
no doubt, the learn of the maker of this universe is like the son of god...but, whenever one falls into the satanic trick " the originalman" ( mind u. elijah's theological views are are contrary to the owner of the cosmos --- a red flag for sure)...
the righteous individual is considered to be the "son of god" ( rom.8:14). not a god.
again. when the christ said "ye are gods", this didn't mean that the rash jewish fools had the spirit of god.
"ye are gods / the devil is a god / moses is a god" ( NOTICED THE SMALL "g") -- obviously ( without knowing hebrew) one can clearly see the style of the language.
* to use a metaphor as literal, equals self deception.
the autobio of malcolm x ( rip ( you probably read it).
malcolm x was cleaned / fixed by elijah.m ( no doubt. e.m helped many ( that's not what i'm against) as the years elapsed, the pupil was becoming wiser / braver / sweater...many of the memebrs of the noi started to hate malcolm x...the "teacher" actually FEARED the student...
* malcolm x spoke his mind / realized the propaganda / MESS he was in p. 373 autobio
@DaVinciCode7733 keep in mind that there's a clear difference of the way god is spelled ( upper/ lower case) BEFORE and AFTER the verse of john ( we can't go around this fact).
once the context is looked at, the table will turn n u'll c WHY "ye are gods" mean nothing.
you can't make the clear revealed word of the Most High untrue -dc7733
u r right. BUT, * i can clarify the misconceptions and BENT applications that r used to support the BENT views of, "the blackman is allah"
First of All, the contemporary Hebrew translation and context of the Torah was clearly misguided, both during the time of Moses (as the masses were severely insolent and rebellious), and especially during the time of Jesus, which Jesus himself clearly spends the gospels speaking about.
You also tend to confuse the term "god" with The Most High- they are NOT consistently interchangeable in any culture (i.e.godess, godfather, godmother, etc.).
@DaVinciCode7733 "You also tend to confuse the term "god" with The Most High" ?
come on now.
i'm not a wanna be linguist --- i know for sure that the structures of languages vary...
to the topic of the page:
"ye are gods" is used to play around with elijah's BENT theological mind.
* the qu'ran slams elijah's twisted ways ie., the originalman BENT view ( "blackman is the maker of this universe" ( pathetic/ really)) is smashed by 112:1-4 of the qu'ran.
@DaVinciCode7733 don't get me wrong. my interpretations are still digging into the river of knowledge --- i have yet so much to learn.
* i have done my little homework...based on elijah's theological views, i can say for certain that his ways are clearly BENT --- the blackman is far from being the creator of this universe. REALLY. how ridiculous does that sound ( then again. to each is own).
malcolm x ( rip) dumped that movement ( noi) because he had brain...
it's clear cut that "he / allah" can't be a he. WHY, because i'm am also a he. this would imply that i'm like him / he / allah. right ? WRONG. why, because the evidence clearly reads "none like him".
but wait ! "him" is a male. true. BUT, this particular "him / allah" has none like him period and, i am him. so him can't be him, for i am him also. get it. --- * the qur'an is clear cut, for children to grasp.
@TheEASTSIDE010 You are simply wrong!! The holy book states that, " ye are all GODS, children of the most high" Muslims like you say that you follow Allah, but when you look into your belief system, you are really following Greek Hellenistic view of what and who God is! so the God of Muhammad, Abraham, and Jesus was supplanted by the greek God of Cleantes, Xenophanes, and Aristotle!! This spook Immaterial/Incorporeall God is simpy a Greek espitemologial conception of GOD! but you worship WHO??
@TheEASTSIDE010 You feel sorry for people following the tenets of the NOI!! Even tho you believe in Allah, I feel sorry for you! SATAN got you in his hip pocket! He got you worshipping a God that you say exsist, but cant anyone what God is..So SAD!!!
@TheEASTSIDE010 Yeah!! right! you sound like a typical whiteman!! Black people are the true Children Of Israel!! I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the NOI is true, pure ISLAM!! and trust me! YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE TRUTH!!
@jacksondarryl34 Non Muslim? hahahahaha!! The blackman is a muslim by his very nature! thats what upset you non-black muslims!! and the quran verifies that fact! we as black people were bowing down to Allah long before prophet muhammad (PBUH) was even a thought in his mothers mind! ritual and dogma doesnt make black people MUSLIMS!! a muslim is a righteous person! I was born a Muslim but shaped in the iniquities of this caucasian! the man of sin! keep following your greek hellenistic God!
Anyone who seriously thinks ANY group of people on Earth, be they Africans, Arabs, Chinese or WHOEVER.. ARE GOD OR GODS....SERIOUSLY NEED THEIR HEADS TESTING... To anyone who believes this... think of how godly you are next time you are taking a toilet break...
We are 9ether beings..which is the combinations of all universal gases and everything thats in the universe and everything that it takes to create a universe dwells with-in 9 ether so it resides in us (The Nubian/ETHER-Utopians/MOORS). Are GOD nature is sleep right now because of this Death Cycle of 6 ether beings. So the "so call" black man is both GOD and ALLAH but being that we are sleep we are expressing more DEVIL then anything because all of these forces dwell with-in.
thank you for this video. I had a friend who turned sunni muslim from the nation and it really is utterly disgusting how white washed they become. Anybody that talks down on the nation or farrakhan deserves to have there tongue ripped out of their diseased mouth. All praises due to allah who came in the person of w.f muhmmad
What you said saanetershuffle went over the head of Quranite Moslem. Keep up the good work saanetershuffle. The vidz represents the truth-they do not claim that the Black man & women is a deity next to Allah & this is so obvious on the vidz. Quranite could not quote u nor the videos to support his lies against u. If I was U brother don't wast your time with this Quranite Moslem he is lost.
This English word can be used for humans & more.You cannot do this with Allah. Why?Because they are not the same. Anybody who is aware of the pagan european history knows that the English word GOD come from pagan origins and only a fool (quranite) will equate that with Allah's name or try to make it seem like its the same & no difference. He just dont like it but his personal feelings has no barring on the truth of the matter
@wstr1 Let me kill you on this real quick. a god is a title given to objects of worship. For some the sun is a god. It may be the god of any group of people that worship it. However, 'God' spoken without 'a' or 'the' before it is a name in English for the Most High, whom in Arabic is refferred to as Allah. For those who follow the religion of Abraham God is the only god they worship. A goddess is a female object of worship. a godling is an object of worship with less status than another.
@wstr1 A godfather is a 'father in god' it is an expression used for someone who was present at the christening of a child of Christian parents. A godmother is a woman who was present for such a christening. You can just look up these words in the dictionary instead of concoting your own theories. The only people who use the name 'God' or 'Allah', both names which refer to the most high for human beings are misguded trinitarian Christians. Now, revive yourself brother, and beware the fire
I'm not a sunni but this video is wrong. The Quran is clear. There is to be no god but God. God without any article before it (that is 'a' or 'the') means Allah. ilaah is a god. There is to be no ilaah (god) other than Allah. Any black man who calls himself a god is going against the Quran. And our ancestors who considered other black people to be gods were going against God's teachings. Only God (i.e.) Allah can be a god for a Muslim. Also the Arabs were black before islam during early Islam.
Its no doubt that you are indoctrinated here. The English word "GOD" does not mean Allah and could never be used as a translation for ALLAH. You need to research your so-called English background because if you had done so then you would realize that the English word "GOD" came into existense as a result of "pagan origins" and as such could NEVER be used for The Creator's Holy Name: ALLAH.
In closing this video is based on common sense & Al Haqq.
@saanetershuffle Never indoctrinated, always an independent scholar using knowledge and intelligence. The name 'God' has no more of a pagan influence than the word Allah. God comes from the noun, the/a god. It evolved into a proper name for who we know as the supreme god, the god of Abraham (sas) and cannot be used for any one else's god as a proper name. Allah comes from al-ilaahu, i.e. the god, it elided into Al-lah and became a propre name used for the supreme god, the god of Abraham.
@Quranite U claim that U are using knowledge & intelligence but I do see indonctrination of religious schools of thought created by man in U because we all know the English word "GOD" has its roots in paganisim. The Holy Qur'aan says all beautiful names are Allah's. However names of pagan origins are not beautiful names & cannot be associated with Allah. In the Arabic text of the Qur'aan the English word "GOD" does not exist. "GOD" is a pagan man-made term unlike Allah which prexisted.
@saanetershuffle again you say the word 'god' and refuse to recognize that 'God' is a proper name and 'a/the god' is a description or a title. God like Allah is a proper name for the creator. Everyone knows this and you are trying to twist the English language to force your viewpoint. God as a name comes from 'a/the god' and Allah comes from ilaah there is almost no difference in how God and Allah branched off into proper names. Just as 'a/the god' as a word has been used for idols so has ilaah
PART A @Quranite Another point, this video clearly demonstrated how the pagan English word GOD can be applied to humans, women and other things. However Allah cannot be altered & changed like the English word "GOD". Allah cannot be made into a man, woman or any thing in existence
@saanetershuffle You can say that a human or a thing is A god but you cannot say that it is God. Just as you can call a person or a thing an ilaah but you cannot say that it is Allah. The Christian Arabs make Allah into a man, i.e. Jesus (sas). But they are wrong because Jesus (sas) is not the creator. A wrong can be someone's god but it cannot be God himself. God himself, like Allah is the creator. God comes from 'a/the god' and Allah comes from ilaah (which means god).
@Quranite I read all ur points and its very obvious that you have not watched all the videos & that U are operating under your indonctrination of your religious sect school of thought which worships the devil's language ENGLISH.
"You can say that a human or a thing is A god but you cannot say that it is God. Just as you can call a person or a thing an ilaah but you cannot say that it is Allah."
Quranite any body who watched these videos can see that the videos does not make this claim
@Quranite again after making this ridiculous charge or statement
"You can say that a human or a thing is A god but you cannot say that it is God. Just as you can call a person or a thing an ilaah but you cannot say that it is Allah"
If U did watch all the videos then you are here operating under EMOTION rather than reasoning & Al Haqq (The Truth). No where on the videos it claims that a human can be THE CREATOR or ALLAH, thus your point is mute & U are wasting excess oxygen for no reason
@saanetershuffle You are right, I am wasting oxygen. You refuse to understand. The whole point is that as a Muslim you (others can but a MUSLIM cannot) cannot call a man God or 'a god' because that would be calling him either Allah or ilaah and both are WRONG if you follow laa ilaaha illa allah. But you refuse to understand and are probably enjoying trying to consternate the conversation. Peace.
PART B @Quranite You cannot even add "ing", "s" to the word ALLAH like U can to the corrupted pagan name GOD There is only LA ILAHA ILLAH ALLAH and GOD cannot be a translation nor a substitute for the original name of the Creator ALLAH unlike your pagan English word
@saanetershuffle Well firstly Allah is not an English word so don't expect it to following English grammatical rules or vice-versa. Allah = God, ilaah = a/the god. laa ilaaha illah allah, there is to be no god but God. You know what this means and you know the name God is a direct translation of Allah. With this you also know that no believer in the Quran can say that he is a god besides Allah/God.
@Quranite U are claiming to be a Muslim & you said this ignorant statment below
"The name 'God' has no more of a pagan influence than the word Allah"
Allah exists in Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, just to name a few. The name ALLAH is the original name of the Creator which is found in the original scriptures; there is no pagan origins or influence of the name ALLAH. Quranite I hear ghetto scholarship & by the way why do U call urself Qur'anite such name is not found in the Quraan.
@saanetershuffle It's just plain old truth. God is a proper name which derives from the word 'a/the god.' And Allah is a proper name which derives from the term ilaah. Allah ONLY exists in Arabic. In Aramaic it is Alaha and in Hebrew it is Eloh. These words are only related because of a similar root system and they are all proper names which derive from the root aleph, lam, haa. ilaah means any god and and Allah means God, i.e. the creator. Convincing yourself otherwise does not make it true.
"God is a proper name which derives from the word 'a/the god.' And Allah is a proper name which derives from the term ilaah. Allah ONLY exists in Arabic. In Aramaic it is Alaha and in Hebrew it is Eloh"
More ghetto scholarship, Allah exists in all the semetic languages, its the same word. Also notice that U said "in Hebrew it is Eloh". Please expand your research because there are more names for Allah in Hebrew such as "ELAH" which is again the same as "ALLAH".
@saanetershuffle What name besides Quranite would you prefer? Islam means peace-making or submissiveness. I'm fine with being a peacemaker but not with being a submissive person in general. The Quran uses the term submissiveness in terms of being submissive to God, and I consider myself submissive to God but this is not expressed by the term Muslm alone. By calling myself a Quranite I am saying that I only follow the message given to God's last prophet, the Quran. And you take issue with that?
@Quranite the name that you are using "Quranite" is no where found in the Holy Qur'aan, you are doing what the Sunni's are doing by creating a sectarian name. In the Qur'aan it was Abraham who named us Muslims before the revelation of the Qur'aan as well as in the Qur'aan
Qur'aan 22:78-"...It is he (Abraham) who has named you MUSLIMS, both before and in this (Revelation)..."
This name is far superior then ur sectarian name which is again no where found in the Holy Qur'aan.
@saanetershuffle You are really not prepared or ready to discuss this subject as you have a severely deficient knowledge of English and I'm sure an even more deficient knowledge of Arabic. Hence you speak from a VERY limited reference point. You are not willing to open your mind in this aspect so nothing I say can help you. Check out some Quranist sites and maybe you'll pick up some things. I am a very educated native in English and am fluent in Arabic and very educated in Classical Arabic.
@Quranite It is very evident that you presented a useless argument which does not apply to these videos which ultimately proves that it is just U who have a PERSONAL PROBLEM with people calling themselves "god, gods, goddesses (which is not in the connotations of The Creator or Allah)" thus such usage in English is perfectly fine as well as the Islaamic doctrine because again the connotation of the word as which it is used is NOT in the sense of Allah or The Creator of all that exist.
" I am a very educated native in English and am fluent in Arabic and very educated in Classical Arabic"
I hate it when people always trying to claim with their mouth that they are fluent in Arabic. Such statement (out of your mouth) proves NOTHING because every body and their momma always makes these unfounded claims which again proves nothing but what we do see is that u have a personal problem with one calling themselves "god" but not a factual problem.
@saanetershuffle Listen, I've tried logic and good sense but I'll feed it to you like a child. god = ilaah. There is to be no ilaah other than Allah. So if you call yourself a god you are calling yourself an ilaah, and there is to be no ilaah/god other than Allah. Did you get that? I did my best not to distract you with anything else. Do you understand that to call yourself a god is to call yourself ilaah (not allah, but ilaah). This is against laa ilaaha illa allah. Got it?
@saanetershuffle this quaranite guy is an idiot & everything you said went over his head. The videos that you uploaded illustrated that no human can be Allah or the Creator and in English the word god can be applied to humans among other things which cannot be done with the Arabic word Allah. The videos are truth and I'm glad that you pointed out to this so-called quaranite dude that he basically have a personal problem because your information here is right on point with the facts.
@wstr1 You guys are the idiots. You don't know the difference between ilaah and Allah. The Quran says there can be no ilaah except Allah. So what is an ilaah? AN ILAAH IS A GOD. So there is to be no god other than Allah. That means Allah is the only god. THERE IS NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ALLAH. LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH!! Or did that fact go over your head despite me repeating it so many times?
@Quranite you are the true idiot because what u are saying here again is a MUTE POINT because these videos does not say that man is Allah or The Creator of all that exists. What it bears down to is that on a personal level (also probably due to your slave mentality) is that you do not like it when the Black man & woman refer to themselves as gods as in the connotation of a human, not Allah which can be done in ENGLISH; Our Nubian ancesters used the same idiom.
@saanetershuffle OH MY GOD!! I KNOW YOU ARE NOT SAYING THAT ANY MAN IS ALLAH. I KNOW THIS!!! READ MY POST AGAIN, AND AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET IT. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT SAYING THAT ANY MAN IS ALLAH. What you ARE saying is that a man can be an ilaah. NOT ALLAH but ilaah. And that violates Laa ilaaha illa allah. If you believe in the Quran you believe in laa ilaaha illa allah. What does that mean? It means that only Allah can be an ilaah. What is an ilaah? A god. Get it?
@Quranite You ignorantly and foolishly indicated I made this claim
"What you ARE saying is that a man can be an ilaah"
No where in my post, I say this and if so quote me instead of using rhetoric & lies! You need to watch these videos instead of coming here wasting excess oxygen because the videos neither make these claims and if so quote the videos, I challenge U with your sectarian "quaranite" name which is no where found in the Qur'aan.
@saanetershuffle Did you not say that a man can be a god? If you said this then you are saying that a man can be an ilaah. ilaah means a god. If you say that a man can be a god, you are saying that he can be an ilaah? Why? Because whereas Allah is Allah, an ilaah in Arabic is 'a god.' 1 for 1. When you translate 'The black man is a god' in Arabic you say 'Al-aswad huwa ilaah.' Note, I never said Allah, but ilaah. But Al-quran says there can be no ilaah but Allah, hence laa ilaaha illa allah!!
@saanetershuffle It's simple & you endanger yourself by calling yourself a god besides Allah. Only Allah can be a god to those who follow the Quran. By taking a god other than Allah (even if it's yourself) you are exposing yourself to the Hell-fire. You cannot even believe that you are a god and believe in the Quran. The Quran says laa ilaaha illa allah. There can be no gods besides Allah! This is very simple. Any Nubian who did or said this will be facing the Hell-fire.
@Quranite you are talking about I or we going to hell, negro you sound just like a christian and thus no one here cares about your PERSONAL FEELINGS about using the English word "GOD"
It is evident that you could not quote none of my statements nor the videos to prove that we are saying that we are a DIETY in the expression: LA ILAHA (DIETY) ILLA ALLAH (THERE IS NO DIETY/GOD BUT ALLAH" so my mentally dead negro with the sectarian name (quaranite) u ARE making a MUTE POINT-u have no argument
@saanetershuffle Both Muslms and Christians believe in the hell-fire. But more important to a Muslim is not taking or believing in any gods besides Allah. You called yourself (and in particular the blackman) a god/ilaah, did you not? Are you now trying to act like there is a difference between a diety and a god?
Deity:
1. a god or goddess.
2. divine character or nature, especially that of the Supreme Being; divinity.
3. the estate or rank of a god: The king attained deity after his death.
@saanetershuffle I wish I could really discuss this with you and have you understand but I know you are not willing. So you should do your own studies and then when or if you learn something hit me back up. Do a google search on quranists and hit up the Quranist pages. Maybe you'll get it. Maybe you won't. Peace.
@saanetershuffle ALL Anglo-pagans recognized 'God' as a distinct name for the supreme god and who was separate from all of their lesser gods. The same goes for Allah. The pagan arabs recognized Allah as a distinct name for the supreme god, who was separate from all of their lesser gods. Some Arabs referred to Allah or God as al-ilaahu or 'the god' impying that he was the supreme and the only one worthy of the title. The same goes for other European and non-European names for God, i.e. Allah.
@Quranite no matter how you want to flip the script the pagen English word "GOD" could not be a translation nor a name for "ALLAH" despite the fact that U find some people today using it for the Creator Allah but again when you want to dwell in root knowledge instead of branch knowledge I can see where you are coming from even though your premise is flawed.
@saanetershuffle LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH: There is to be NO god but God, or as you prefer it (and I have no problem with it) LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH: There is to be NO god but Allah. EITHER WAY, NO HUMAN BEING WHO FOLLOWS THE QURAN CAN CALL HIMSELF OR VIEW HIMSELF AS A GOD! ALLAH IS TO BE OUR ONLY GOD!! That is straight from the Quran. Would you deny LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH and actually consider yourself a believer in the Quran?
@Quranite U have said "NO HUMAN BEING WHO FOLLOWS THE QURAN CAN CALL HIMSELF OR VIEW HIMSELF AS A GOD" In order to see the truth, you got to remove your EMOTIONS. If you honestly watched all the videos related to this series or subject then there is no way on earth you can indicate that this video is saying that humans can be ALLAH. Remember in English we can apply the word "GOD" to humans and a lot of other things-you have to pay close to the connotation of how the word is being used.
@saanetershuffle There is no emotion here. It is plain as day. Laa ilaaha illa allah. There is to be NO god other than God. I NEVER said that you are saing humans can be Allah. I said that according to the phrase laa ilaaha illah allah, if you follow the Quran you CANNOT accept that a person or anything else be taken as an ilaah (a god) other than Allah himself. And lastly you cannot use the name God to refer to a human being, no more than you can use the word Allah. But you can say 'a/the god'
@saanetershuffle I guess you won't recongize how you are wrong here. The NAME (not the word) God came about for the word 'a/the god.' Only the creator is referred to sas 'God.' God is a proper name. When used a a word or titile it is 'a/the god.' the word 'a/the god' is a title given to something that someone worships just like the term ilaah. GOd developed from 'the/a god' into a proper name referring to the creator. Allah developed from ilaah into a proper name for the creator as well.
@Quranite Again U said "Only the creator is referred to sas 'God.' God is a proper name. When used a a word or titile it is 'a/the god" In terms of history English is a new language & none of the Prophets such as Jesus, Abraham, Muhammad, Adam, just to name a few NEVER spoke English so they never used the word GOD & in addition to this there is no original scripture that ever used the word GOD so NO Quranite "GOD" is not a proper name it is a MAN-MADE invention which again comes from paganism
@ayyubshabazz El exists in Arabic. It is Eel. It also means Allaah. We cannot be sure if El comes from Sumeria. It is only a theory that Sumerian is the common ancestor of the Semitic languages. Even though it would make sense Biblically since Abraham (sas) came from Ur. Who is El by the way in Sumerian? Dios and Theos both words for God come from Zeus, but remember Zeus was the Greek SUPREME GOD, i.e. God. Clasical Arabic is said to be the most conservative and hence oldest Semitic dialect
@ayyubshabazz Allah cannot be pluralized. Allahiyn doesn't exist. Allahumma is not plural but a combination of Allah and the evocative umma. Allaat is not a feminine of Allaah. A feminine of Allah would have to be Allahaat or Allaahah with a taa marbootah, these two do not exist in Arabic. Elohym which is Hebrew and not Arabic is pluralized and that is because both hebrew and arabic (in different ways) use plural forms to give emphasis. Allah comes from Al-ilaahu (the god).
Laa ILAAHA illa allaah. There is to be NO god but Allah. So no Allah-fearing black man can claim to be a god because there are to be NO gods but Allah. Also the author doesn't know English. If you say 'god' without saying 'a' or 'the' you are automatically saying God. God IS Allah. 'A god' is an object of extreme reverence and worship. Godfather/mother means a mother or father IN God (a christian tradition.) Allah (God) is a god (i.e. ilaaah) to us and is to be the only god of the Muslims!!
We need no books to tell us where the holy land is because truth is self evident. Africa is the richest land on earth. We dont need a prophet to tell us God has choosen us as his people
Because we are the first people, The fact we where here first is evidence we are picked before any goat fcking arab or jew
As far as I know its a web of contradiction because like judaism and the torah creation of islam was due to miltary conquest and the unity of certain people. Just like moses helped shape the jewish faith in order to unite them. Muhammad created islam to unite the many fighting tribes of arabia under one rule.
So you as an afrikan have no real business in this affair.
For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ. (5:43-48,
Let us read further 5:45-48 And unto thee (Muslims) have We revealed the Scripture (the Qur'an) with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee.
Now lets read more how about this verse 5:43 How come they (come) unto thee (Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)?
why would they wrote that? If there is one God there most be only one law? So who is lying and who is telling the truth?
The reason why I question your understanding of verses is because in other areas it says. That the book of injeel and torah is correct and the truth. We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84)
Like a dull knife just ain't cuttin' you're just talkin' a lot and sayin' nothing Just sayin' nothing, just sayin' nothing You can't tell me how to run my life down
You can't tell me how to keep my fitness sound You can't tell me what I'm doin' wrong When you keep jivin' and keep on singin' that same old funny song
I heard this argument before brother.Most muslims don't know about it but when you get to the core of this belief islam/egyptiology when it comes down to it YOU BELIEVE GOD IS ALL which is basically saying all is god which is SHIRK
“He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And God is the All-Seer of what you do.” (Quran 57:4)
@scorpion32 Also don't try to deny that you say god is all this is a form of pantheism . I have met and spoken to many people who believe in what your saying. In addition I have been to those seminars of this concept that black people are gods (dont disagree with this in the non-divine sense).Also I agree that African past has been hidden such as the people of mali and senagal were advanced races not only egypt. I dont want to argue bro just trying to guide you read Quran and on tawhid please
the BLACK MAN / WOMAN are what they are ---- homosapiens.
allah / god / elohim etc., are far from being human...too many of creeds out there are just as TWISTED as those that made the christ into a god...the sane must have understanding ( * NOT some bent views that are indoctrinating the ignorant / lonely souls )...
the sane MUST read in-between the lines in order to grasp the real message ( i and the father are one --- christ. a FOOL ( the jews did) will take that as face value).
peace.
afterray 1 week ago
@afterray Why don't you produce your God that you say is not human. Who is that mystery God? There is no mystery god the son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years and were unable to find that so-called mystery god. so they have agreed that the only God is the Son of Man. So they lose no time (search for that that does not exist.) Lest see how much time you waste. Peace
eljahsiemallah 1 week ago
@eljahsiemallah
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"son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years"
r u ok ?
r u ok ?
do u know how old is the human ? ( bio 101).
true. the human is always on a quest for further understanding --- too bad allah is beyond that quest / understanding 6:103.
* sure, u may play around with ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m ( by definition) all day long ( wow says the unlearn). BUT, the qur'an is clearly against ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m...
allah - is - no - exception - to a mystery...
afterray 6 days ago
@afterray "do u know how old is the human ? (bio 101)." you asked. According to Allah the human being is trillions of old. But according to the european mans ideology the evolution of the human from the homo sapiens 500,000 years ago and homo erectus 2,500,000 years ago.
eljahsiemallah 1 hour ago
@afterray Sura 29 ver 5 "whoever hopes to meet with Allah the term of Allah is surely coming. Sura 89 ver 21 and 22 Nay, when the earth is made to crumble to pieces, and thy Lord comes with the angels, ranks on ranks. 84 ver 6 "O man, thou must strive a hard striving (to attain) to thy Lord, until thou meet Him". 83 ver 6 "The day when men will stand before the Lord of the Worlds." 75 ver 22 and 23 Some faces that day will be bright Looking to their Lord. You misunderstanding of 6:103.
eljahsiemallah 24 minutes ago
@eljahsiemallah
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mind u, "son of man has search for this mystery god for trillions of years"
r u ok ?
* to deny the existence of god (based on the intangible science --- mystery) is just as as ridiculous as one saying that the number system ( be it + / -) is a fake because the end of numbers is a mystery...OH, the actual shell of the universe is BASED on theory --- in other words, science believe in their speculative data...so in essence, the mystery is THERE too..
afterray 6 days ago
@afterray Rev 10 v 7 but in the days of the seventh angel when shall begin to sound , the mystery of God should be be finished as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Habakkuk 3 verse 3 " God came from Teman(arabia). 1 John 3 verse 2 " beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be; but we know that when he appears, we shall be like him; for we SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS. Can you a spirit? Ex 24 ver 10 " and they saw the God of Israel;" How can he be seen?
eljahsiemallah 1 hour ago
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afterray 6 days ago
@eljahsiemallah
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" Why don't you produce your God that you say is not human" ?
* for the same reason that i can't possible theorize that LUCY (yeah. lets go to africa ) is proof that the blackman fits ur a-c-r-o-n-y-m...
u can wish whatever u please about allah and cheery pick verses to "prove " ur point...the qu'ran is here to fix BENT creeds...i suggest u refrain from the bible. WHY, because that cannon promotes SLAVERY... oh, elijah.m is a slave name...what !
afterray 6 days ago
@afterray LUCY? This is the best you can do to prove you concept of God? The God of the Bible and Quran is manifested in the physical form as a MAN. Come to the Light. Don't be like those who "worship what they know not and are easily lead in the wrong direction but hard to be lead in the right".
eljahsiemallah 1 hour ago
those black statues that the man is reffering to when he says this black statue is a god that black statue is a god and just cuz they had black statues DONT MAKE THEM REAL GODS! theres one god those statues were idols false gods they were the reason we blacks are cursed to this day,cuz we refused to worship the one true god and this video is incorrect as hell its the devil trying to fake us out,wake up brothas n sistas of all colors
jimmybarnes7777777 1 month ago
@jimmybarnes7777777 and this vid has the the sale out white boys trying to teach us wrong and no man is a god how dare you even consider the thought!its sinful to even think that ,your a mere man nothing and lowly ,full of sin pray n hope the true god forgives you for even thinkn that were all people of god and we all need to forget to hate and live in peace so we may all be saved
jimmybarnes7777777 1 month ago
You guys are fools & no man is God. Farrakhan quotes out of the Bible all the time & the Qur'an is clearly called the Last Revelation. So if the Qur'an is the last revelation, why the hell is your leader teaching from a respected but clearly unauthenticated text? I know my history & I know my Religion as a Muslim (who follows the Qur'an & Sunnah ONLY). I know who & what I am, but I am damn sure not God. You follow the word of a white Arab who had a record & EM who elaborated on a good ideology.
SunniMuslim87 2 months ago
@SunniMuslim87 lol Farrakhan quotes the Quran all the time. He quotes the Bible because its apart of the revelation of God. Sunni muslims on the other hand burn the bible and instead follow fabricated "hadith" that calls blacks "rasin heads" and talks about the prophet (pbuh) laying with somebody elses wife while she picks lice out his hair. Thats ridiculous. Sufi wisdom: No man is God, but God is a man. Islam came from Africa and was here before the white man put his hands on it, remember that.
CDW757 1 month ago
SEEING THE REALITY OF THE MATTER CLEARLY, I WILL NOT MAKE AN APOLOGETIC EXPLANATION DISTINGUISHING GOD FROM ALLAH AND THEREBY ACQUIESCE IN THE FALSE VIEW THAT ALLAH IS A MORE SACRED NAME THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO BLACK PEOPLE. THE BLACK NATION WILL NO LONGER BE SPOOKED OUT OF THE REALITY THAT WE ARE ALLAH JUST BECAUSE SOME NEW RACE OF SEMITES WERE REVOLTED BY THE VERY NOTION AND HAVE FORMED RELIGIOUS COMMANDMENTS AND DOCTRINES CRIMINALIZING OUR SACRED TRUTH. WE, THE BLACK NATION GAVE YOU ISLAM
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god is greater then any man - job 33:12
basic reasoning:
god can't be a man ( human / blackman) if he's greater then any man...it's like saying negative one ( -1) is greater then another negative one ( -1) -- it makes no sense ( only to fools)...
* the NOI members need to take- their- heads- out- of- the -sand and realize that in hebrew, grammatical gender is NOT and indicator of gender...
the noi is extreme afrocentrism...
afterray 2 months ago
@afterray Exodus 15 v 3. The Lord is a MAN(ish) OF War. You can't make God anything other then man. The hebrew word for ish means man. You need to take your head out of the sand and realize that.
eljahsiemallah 2 months ago
@eljahsiemallah you have a point ( not --so-- fast). BUT, here's a better point --- i hope it will save you from hitting the concrete floor (head first). ruach, is spirit in hebrew ( look it up). this ruach is the same found in gen. 1:2. this ruach is actually feminine " she" ( ACCORDING to the hebrew grammar (look it up)).
an imbecile / unfamiliar with basic hebrew grammar will say that ruach of elohim is a women...not that i mind.
afterray 2 months ago
@afterray Ruwach as I manifested to you already. doesn't mean women. "5347. Neqebah; this fem. heb . noun has its source naqab in 5344. IT MEANS A WOMAN, A FEMAL, WHETHER HUMAN...OR ANIMAL...THE OPPOSITE OF MALE". Lexical aids to the old testament. Unlike your Ruwach definition, this word does mean female. Like the word Iysh means man. These languages including arabic have masculine and feminine nouns. Even inanimate objects such as doors, houses, cars are referred to as such. Is woman a car?
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eljahsiemallah 3 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah "Unlike your Ruwach definition" ?
dude. stop falling on the ground and keep it real. last time. ruah is a feminine hebrew noun ( google it --- i have no reason to play around with grammar (* in order to suite a BENT creed) i don't row like that).
afterray 3 weeks ago
@afterray What is your point?
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah with basic understanding of the hebrew ruach ( technically "she"), found in gen.1:2. a f-o-o-l will say that this pronoun is indicative to its meaning ( mind you. we are dealing with a DIFFERENT language --- UHH)
so. if we were to play around and say that ish is "he" and ruach is "she", then YOUR spirit, is woman...
sorry, you and your ignorance ( playing around with ish ( i've seen that crappy NOI page) have hit the concrete floor head first...
afterray 2 months ago
@afterray Damn. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. "7307, Ruwach; this fem. Heb noun derives from 7306. IT MEANS AIR FOR BREATHING, AIR THAT IS BEING BREATH, BREATH OF THE NOSTRILS, SNIFFING, SNORTING, THE BREATH OF ONES MOUTH...RUWACH CAME TO MEAN THE ENTIRE IMMATERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAN..." Lexical aids to the old testament. No where is it said that ruwach means female. Although it can refer to a person as a prophet of God. It could be male or female. The word itself doesnt mean female.
eljahsiemallah 3 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah where r u going with all this ( really).
AGAIN. ruach ( spirit) is a feminine noun in hebrew ( google it -- i NEVER said it meant a woman ( come on now. keep it real). * this is ur game. u try hard to manipulate the"he / allah" into a human being). this ruach is to found throughout the ot. ie., gen. 41:38 / ezek.1:12.
ruach is no exception to"ENTIRE IMMATERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAN" why, because animal also have it . gen. 6:17 / ecc. 3:19.
afterray 3 weeks ago
@afterray Of course ruach is a feminine noun. What is your point for manifesting that then? It is not hard at all to show God is Man. Exodus 15 verse 3 clearly makes that point. Rocks, plants, minerals all have aspect of the human incorporate within them. However they are not equal to humans. Animals have a degree of consciousness however not the degree that humans have.
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah "It is not hard at all to show God is Man" ?
god is greater then any man - job 33:12 ( i thought that was clear, two months ago).
* the bent equation is visible --- if this contradicts your perception, then perhaps u should bring it to your "teachers" / self attention...
afterray 1 week ago
@eljahsiemallah it's crucial to keep in perspective that ruah ( wind / spirit / life etc.) is NOT elohim himself / manifested period !
says who / what proof ? judges. 3:10 ; 6:34; 11:29; 13:25; 14:6, 19; 15:14...
elohim / allah is far from being the blackman period !
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* elijah's / clarance's theological views of the originalman ( "him / we / us king" ( bible) OR "we / us / our" (qur'an) are based on fragile , spurious clouded part of the cognitive...
afterray 3 weeks ago
@afterray You say " Ruah(wind/spirit/life) is Not elohim himself." I concur. Nor is it a female or women as you so adamantly attempted to prove. However Elohim which is a masculine Hebrew noun " 430 ...refers to rulers or judges with divine connections...a god or goddess...a man in a position like a god." Leixcal aids to old testament. The Blackman being God is pure truth and can be proven. However the mystery god immaterial invisible far apart from creation is unproven.
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah
1)
"a man in a position like a god"
a true limited view.
"The Blackman being God is pure truth" ?
i insist on a circular dialogue.
"can be proven" ?
s-u-r-e many will appreciate ur "convincing data".
* u c, science ( no doubt is amazing) is mandatory with the ontological argument...the men at the labs will ever continue to attempt putting allah under a microscope n then say, we got u...funny how the l-i-m-i-t-e-d mind(s) operates.
afterray 1 week ago
@eljahsiemallah
2)
the characteristics of the universe r ALSO based of t-h-e-o-r-y ( by definition.funny how this world also has theo = god in gk).
the laws ( * yeah. these phenomenal laws made themselves right ?) that govern the behavior of the pure intelligent vibrating protons shock the physicists --- u bet. these laws are a mystery for those that appreciate the essence of this universe -- sura yaseen 38 / zariyat 47 etc.
i'm not trying to convert u.
afterray 1 week ago
@afterray Ish literally means man. Ruach doesn't mean woman. So your example does not equate. Attempt a better example cause that one is null and void of validity.
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah before you bark at me again with nonsense, clean your ears and read carefully.
safer mean book in hebrew. ACCORDING THE THE HEBREW GRAMMAR STRUCTURE, safer is masculine. "he".
so. ish is NO MORE male, then the darn word safer. --- connect the dots.
* i know that you are probably too busy with elijah's pure ignorance, of the languages ( hrbrew / arabic) --- the originalman ? please.
* know basic hebrew first, BEFORE shooting yourself on the foot.
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eljahsiemallah 3 weeks ago
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@afterray " 376 Iysh; this mas, Heb noun...IT MEANS A MAN, A MALE, A HUSBAND.." Lexical aids to the old testement. The Hebrew Greek Key study bible. This is not just a masculine gender word it like safer(you said). It actually means man period.
eljahsiemallah 3 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah the fact that your ignorance is clear ( playing around with ish ( you probably don't even know the first hebrew letter -- wanting to sound smart ( ish) with the hebrew language. pllllease).
* YOU. yes you, are no different then the idiotic 5%ers that go around saying that allah stands for an arm, leg, leg, arm, head.
ha. i must laugh at such pity...
you are parking at the wrong tree.
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afterray 2 months ago
@afterray And that is your answer for the word Ish for the Lord? Its clear that you can't refute this statement with any opposing evidence. The first letter of the Hebrew is the same as Arabic alef. The same as Proto-Canaanite, Nabatean, Syriac. Allah in arabic is Alef lam lam Alef Ha. In english its Allah. Arm Leg Leg Arm Head. In the Quran Al Ikhlas it says Gaf lam Huwa Allah. Huwa means he. Meaning a male. Im am a member of the nation of Gods and Earths. However a idiot I am far from.
eljahsiemallah 3 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah last time. the word / name allah, is an english transliteration ( basic).
the letters that make up the name allah, are not to be confused with those of the enlgish ( a, l, l, a, h).
u can play games all u want ---* the principles of the languages ( hebrew / arabic) will always correct u.
furthermore, the "he" mentioned in the qur'an is far from the he / male / human / biology etc., that u and i know of.
what ?
please. allow 2 lights light to travel...
afterray 3 weeks ago
@afterray Alef Lam Lam Alef Ha are the Arabic letters contained in the word Allah period. And Huwa in the quran means he or it. He as in a male and It as in a thing. You say " the "he" mentioned in the qur'an is far from the he / male / human / biology etc., that u and i know of." And what exactly is that type of "he" that you refer to?
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah
1)
"And what exactly is that type of "he" that you refer to?"
that's a good Q that requires a clear A ( i think) :
the "he" can't be he. WHY, because ( again), god is greater then any man [ he / him / masculine ] - job 33:12. ALSO ( again), there's NONE like him -- 112:4
the equation simplifies ITSELF !
sure. u may ignore these verses and wonder WHY they contradict the masculine noun...my point is explicit...i will rest ( i tried) with further expounding.
afterray 1 week ago
@afterray Repetition of the verse job 33:12 no more disproves God as a man. However Exodus 15:3 proves that he is. Along on with Pslams 82:6 being spoken by the Supreme God to the Congregation of the Gods in which he himself proclaims them to be Gods sons of the most high. It is your lack of knowledge of God man that causes you to be baffled as to how Elijah, Fard, Allah The Father, and this Black God among his sons could proclaimed God to be man. Blinded by spookism indeed.
eljahsiemallah 1 week ago
@eljahsiemallah i wonder why u can't see / understand the clear discrepancy ( by nature) of ur OWN referred verses ? really.
* true. my knowledge is limited --- i have mush too learn... whenever one talks about "supreme wisdom / mathematics / originalman / allah is the blackman", i try best not to laugh...
"Blinded by spookism" ?
did u know that the core of science, is based on the principles ( by definition) of spookism / mystery...yeah. what exactly is theory?
afterray 6 days ago
@eljahsiemallah "baffled as to how Elijah, Fard, Allah The Father, and this Black God" ?
i can appreciate / respect WHY Malcolm x (rip) considered ( * after waking up) elijah's twisted theological creed ( yeah. many of the bent members hated malcolm for speaking his mind...) as a f-a-ke --- pp. 372-373 autobio
true. em cleaned mx...true, as the days elapsed, mx grow and feared not to challenge / question em...hmmm --- em feared mx...anyway,
"Black God" ?
never.
afterray 6 days ago
@eljahsiemallah
1)
"Exodus 15:3 proves that he is" ?
* i think that it would behoove ur psyche to realize the p-u-r-p-o-s-e of a context -- rather then cherry picking. what ?
1st of all, lets be real --- ur isolated verse is actually based on a SONG that moses / israelites SANG...now, i hope that u have BASIC understanding of music ( vocals / instrumentals).
in their SONG, they spake about god's "right hand / nostril" --- to take this SONG literally, means pure ignorance...
afterray 6 days ago
@afterray Are you attempting to symbolize and metaphoricalize all of the verses of the book of exodus? verse 2 of exodus 15 '...He is my God...' according to your explanation should we take "my God" being literally? Song? Verse 3 "the lord is a MAN of war" is literal as much as ish is literally a man. Isaiah 42 verse 13 " The lord shall go forth as a mighty MAN..." The lord is a MAN not a spook. When he comes he comes as a man. Abraham, Jacob, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Moses and 70 elders. saw God.
eljahsiemallah 2 days ago
"Are you attempting" ?
not even close --- i'm only clarifying...again, it's ( CONTEXT) is only a song...
"The lord shall go forth as a mighty MAN." ?
do u actually think that man is " mighty" ? --- yeah. shall we commence on the atomic bomb / nuclear or the ROLE of FORCE --- napoleon / bismark / hitler...oh, the orders of the triangular black slave trade? --- the creator if this universe is far from such " might man" image...* look at the a-p-a-r-t-h-e-i-d of afica...
afterray 1 day ago
@eljahsiemallah
2)
music 101: the vocals can be metaphysical / hypothetical / theoretical / metaphorical etc. ie., "i'm bad" -- james brown. NO. it doesn't mean that he's actually a bad guy...
the essence of the SONGS found in the bible can also be also applied to the tons of idioms ie., "if you see me, you see the father --- christ.
* a f-o-o-l will think that he was claiming divinity.
"eagles wings" ex. 19:4
a f-o-o-l will ask what type of eagle.
afterray 6 days ago
@afterray Divinity means the quality of being divine. Divine means being a deity. Deity means a god or goddess. Pslams 82 ver 6 Allah speaking clearly saying "Ye are Gods". So to be divine is the very command of Allah the nature in which he created us. Simple mathematics. Nothing hard about that.
eljahsiemallah 2 days ago
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@eljahsiemallah
1)
"Pslams 82 ver 6 Allah speaking clearly saying "Ye are Gods" ?
u r using the hebrew deity -- the name allah is in the qur'an. and to use this hebrew verse with ur acronym ( that's all it is and u know it) is a clear mess up...
* again -- u must look at the context ( come on know) -- OH O, the verse starts with "GOD" ( by the way, i own several bibles, niv, kjv, rsv, asv. NOWHERE is ur verse used with a capital G. it's actually a SMALL g.) this should make u ponder...
afterray 1 day ago
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@eljahsiemallah
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iiiiiiiiiii don't understand ! --- u should have realized that there's an obvious degree between the upper case "G" to that of the smaller "g" --- psalms 82 :1- 8 ~ rsv.
** i wonder if u r using psalms via someones cute indoctrinated, spurious biblical views.
look. if whatever movement u r part of, cleaned u / makes u happy / keeps u away from the streets / drugs etc., i applaud u.
my case remains --- the blackman ( or brownman) is far from allah -- maker of this universe...
afterray 1 day ago
@eljahsiemallah u may continue to come back with cloudy verse to paint and image of allah / god...i'm far from tying to persuade. i'm only showing u that music / poetry / metaphors can deceive the self...how many of verses are there to support the bent creed of the godhead --- the self is to busy with the ego --- god is not white / black or puerto rican.
* if anything, the hindus are more persistent with their anthropomorphism. true ?
afterray 1 day ago
@eljahsiemallah
2)
the science of the kabbalah is an interesting one ( * caution is a must).ie., the shi'ur qomah went astray because their perceptions / delusions of the sefirot was too anthropomorphic --- the same can be said about the church fathers and the godhead...ok. enough of this.
what's my point ?
the grammar / idioms require discernment when poring theology...
there are many of plurality of majesty in the bible / quran --- reasoning ( 101) is helpful..
peace.
afterray 1 week ago
@eljahsiemallah
3)
allow me to reason with ur "reasoning".
IF, IF, IF...infinite, your equation is sound ( "arm , leg , leg , arm , head = BIOLOGY (allah the blackman")).
*** it's too bad that this BIOLOGY is clearly incomplete. WHAT ? --- without the trunk of the BODY, ur "arm , leg , leg , arm, head" formula falls to the ground ( there's is NO BODY ( by definition -- BIOLOGY))...it's like saying one is alive without a brain...
i hope my views were perspicuous.
peace.
afterray 1 week ago
@afterray Allah is the supreme mind that manifested self in time in the FORM of Arm Leg Leg Arm Head. The form only being the medium thru which he is present in the u-n-i-verse. When he comes he doesn't come as a spook or spirit(wind) but he is present as none other than man himself. The mathematical biochemical equation is only a manifestation of his supreme powers. All Praise due to Allah the Black God.
Peace.
eljahsiemallah 1 week ago
@eljahsiemallah "Allah is the supreme mind" ?
wrong. why, the mind is limited ( by definition). --- * please. don't tell me that i have to go into the dependent parts of the brain to clarify my point ( bio 101).
allah has a brain ?
that's a cute one --- 6:133 clearly slams such view.
"FORM of Arm Leg Leg Arm Head" ?
AGAIN. there's no "FORM" / biology --- really. can't u c that ur definition of " FORM" l-a-c-k-s the trunk of the manifested biology ? ( * take a close look).
afterray 6 days ago
@eljahsiemallah
1)
"Al Ikhlas" that's a nice one. lets go there, shall we.
* this verse ( 112: 1-4) should have touched your intellect towards further suspicion of ur "he" / male views of allah. i'l try my best to give u some explicit views of "he / allah" and WHY it's far from a male / human / biology :
U ( human) r NOT the one and only. U ( human) are not eternal. U (human) came out of ur mother. U (human) have others (humans) that are LIKE U ( even animals).
afterray 3 weeks ago
@afterray One means what? A single person. We are all a single person. We are not two or more. We all can technically say "we are one". One also means first. Referring to the first God man which was a self created black man. Al qalam ayat hamsa cashra wa sitta cashra " When OUR messages are recited... and WE shall brand him on the snout." Who is the OUR and Who is the WE in the quran? And why does Al Ikhlas mean "The Unity"? Eternal we are. It is the eternal mind of Allah in us.
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@eljahsiemallah
2)
basic equation:
it's clear cut that "he / allah" can't be a he. WHY, because i'm am also a he. this would imply that i'm like him / he / allah. right ? WRONG. why, because the evidence clearly reads "none like him".
but wait ! "him" is a male. true. BUT, this particular "him / allah" has none like him period and, i am him. so him can't be him, for i am him also. get it. --- the qur'an is clear cut period
afterray 3 weeks ago
@afterray You say "that would imply that i'm like him/he/Allah.right?" Right. Genesis 1 verse 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. None like doesn't mean what you are attempting to equate it with. There is none like the human being in this planet and in this universe. period. If so then show me that which is like unto us?
eljahsiemallah 2 weeks ago
@afterray
Psalms 82 "I have said, Ye are all gods; children of the Most High."
Most High, translated in Arabic as "Allah". What is confusing about that?
Jesus then reiterates in John 10:34
"Is it not written in your law, I said. YE ARE GODS?"
Regardless of your skepticism, you can't make the clear revealed word of the Most High untrue. It stands the test of time & the scrutiny of test. Translators try to use god, lord, etc. interchangeably, but the truth is clear with understanding
DaVinciCode7733 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 the first borrowed verse, clearly tells you (dc7733) that your view is below the most high...also, it's important to understand the expressions of the hebrew language ie., satan is ALSO a god (2 cor. 4:4). does that mean satan is actually god? of course not.
if one translate "most high" in arabic, it doesn't means allah. true, allah is the most high. * meaning, higher then your brain / higher then the BENT concept of allah being the blackman -- clear cut.
afterray 2 months ago
@afterray
I am currently in pursuance of original translation and philology/etymology of the Hebrew Text and translation. A summary of the subject matter that may provide a far better argument than one I can propose, myself, can be found by searching:
"Dr. Wesley Muhammad's Philology Saviours' Day Lecture ".
Check it out in its entirety, and please respond to me with your thoughts, if you wish.
DaVinciCode7733 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 again. one must understand the ways the hebrews spoke, and not take expressions as face value - SELF deception.
when the christ said "you are gods" ( by the way. i don't know where u got the capitals from.if u r going to quote verses, quote correctly ( don't get mad)).
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the stupid jews took his expression literally and were going to stone him ( u (dc7733) should always read the context of verses - * there's a lot -of -light, for FURTHER understanding).
afterray 2 months ago
@afterray
The capitals are used instead of quotes in the King James Translation I quoted from, not a symbol of emotion. Jesus explained that the scriptures are true, and that whomever the scriptures are revealed to and does the Fathers work is a god- a child of the Most High God; making them a Son of God- The Jews of that time had never absorbed that concept prior to Christ, so they took his PERFECT interpretation as Blasphemy, and refused him as the Christ- as they do to this day.
DaVinciCode7733 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 the imbecile jews knew that moses was a god to pharaoh (ex. 7:1). so, they were aware of this hebrew style of expression when their KING said "ye are gods" --- they were just humiliating their KING.
no doubt, the learn of the maker of this universe is like the son of god...but, whenever one falls into the satanic trick " the originalman" ( mind u. elijah's theological views are are contrary to the owner of the cosmos --- a red flag for sure)...
peace.
afterray 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 "does the Fathers work is a god" ?
u r mistaken.
the righteous individual is considered to be the "son of god" ( rom.8:14). not a god.
again. when the christ said "ye are gods", this didn't mean that the rash jewish fools had the spirit of god.
"ye are gods / the devil is a god / moses is a god" ( NOTICED THE SMALL "g") -- obviously ( without knowing hebrew) one can clearly see the style of the language.
* to use a metaphor as literal, equals self deception.
afterray 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733
let me suggest a read.
the autobio of malcolm x ( rip ( you probably read it).
malcolm x was cleaned / fixed by elijah.m ( no doubt. e.m helped many ( that's not what i'm against) as the years elapsed, the pupil was becoming wiser / braver / sweater...many of the memebrs of the noi started to hate malcolm x...the "teacher" actually FEARED the student...
* malcolm x spoke his mind / realized the propaganda / MESS he was in p. 373 autobio
nice talking to you.
afterray 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 keep in mind that there's a clear difference of the way god is spelled ( upper/ lower case) BEFORE and AFTER the verse of john ( we can't go around this fact).
once the context is looked at, the table will turn n u'll c WHY "ye are gods" mean nothing.
you can't make the clear revealed word of the Most High untrue -dc7733
u r right. BUT, * i can clarify the misconceptions and BENT applications that r used to support the BENT views of, "the blackman is allah"
afterray 2 months ago
@afterray
First of All, the contemporary Hebrew translation and context of the Torah was clearly misguided, both during the time of Moses (as the masses were severely insolent and rebellious), and especially during the time of Jesus, which Jesus himself clearly spends the gospels speaking about.
You also tend to confuse the term "god" with The Most High- they are NOT consistently interchangeable in any culture (i.e.godess, godfather, godmother, etc.).
It's "ye are all gods" lowercase
DaVinciCode7733 2 months ago
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@DaVinciCode7733 "You also tend to confuse the term "god" with The Most High" ?
come on now.
i'm not a wanna be linguist --- i know for sure that the structures of languages vary...
to the topic of the page:
"ye are gods" is used to play around with elijah's BENT theological mind.
* the qu'ran slams elijah's twisted ways ie., the originalman BENT view ( "blackman is the maker of this universe" ( pathetic/ really)) is smashed by 112:1-4 of the qu'ran.
the noi is a fake !
afterray 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 "the truth is clear with understanding"
* understanding depends on HOW the understanding in question is understood. what ?
the verses of psalms / john ( among tons) have been taken too literal -- self deception.
* elijah.m is - a - pure - example of how one can use verses to support a BENT view, that's based on a misconception.
elijah's twisted views of the originalman ( using the torah) is suffice to acknowledge his pure ignorance and sadness...
afterray 2 months ago
@DaVinciCode7733 don't get me wrong. my interpretations are still digging into the river of knowledge --- i have yet so much to learn.
* i have done my little homework...based on elijah's theological views, i can say for certain that his ways are clearly BENT --- the blackman is far from being the creator of this universe. REALLY. how ridiculous does that sound ( then again. to each is own).
malcolm x ( rip) dumped that movement ( noi) because he had brain...
afterray 2 months ago
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@DaVinciCode7733 check out this 4th grade equation :
it's clear cut that "he / allah" can't be a he. WHY, because i'm am also a he. this would imply that i'm like him / he / allah. right ? WRONG. why, because the evidence clearly reads "none like him".
but wait ! "him" is a male. true. BUT, this particular "him / allah" has none like him period and, i am him. so him can't be him, for i am him also. get it. --- * the qur'an is clear cut, for children to grasp.
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afterray 2 months ago
Hurl truth at falsehood till it knock out its brains. Enough of the invisible mystery god teachings.
eljahsiemallah 3 months ago
The NOI are not real Muslim....
mynig4life 3 months ago
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If Allah is God then how can man be God but not Allah?
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TheEASTSIDE010 3 months ago
@TheEASTSIDE010 You are simply wrong!! The holy book states that, " ye are all GODS, children of the most high" Muslims like you say that you follow Allah, but when you look into your belief system, you are really following Greek Hellenistic view of what and who God is! so the God of Muhammad, Abraham, and Jesus was supplanted by the greek God of Cleantes, Xenophanes, and Aristotle!! This spook Immaterial/Incorporeall God is simpy a Greek espitemologial conception of GOD! but you worship WHO??
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TheEASTSIDE010 2 months ago
@TheEASTSIDE010 You feel sorry for people following the tenets of the NOI!! Even tho you believe in Allah, I feel sorry for you! SATAN got you in his hip pocket! He got you worshipping a God that you say exsist, but cant anyone what God is..So SAD!!!
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TheEASTSIDE010 2 months ago
@TheEASTSIDE010 Yeah!! right! you sound like a typical whiteman!! Black people are the true Children Of Israel!! I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the NOI is true, pure ISLAM!! and trust me! YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE TRUTH!!
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TheEASTSIDE010 2 months ago
@jacksondarryl34 Non Muslim? hahahahaha!! The blackman is a muslim by his very nature! thats what upset you non-black muslims!! and the quran verifies that fact! we as black people were bowing down to Allah long before prophet muhammad (PBUH) was even a thought in his mothers mind! ritual and dogma doesnt make black people MUSLIMS!! a muslim is a righteous person! I was born a Muslim but shaped in the iniquities of this caucasian! the man of sin! keep following your greek hellenistic God!
jacksondarryl34 2 months ago
GODS?????? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA How arrogant of lowly men, to think they are capable of anything by themselves...
MoeRocco75 3 months ago
Anyone who seriously thinks ANY group of people on Earth, be they Africans, Arabs, Chinese or WHOEVER.. ARE GOD OR GODS....SERIOUSLY NEED THEIR HEADS TESTING... To anyone who believes this... think of how godly you are next time you are taking a toilet break...
MoeRocco75 3 months ago
We are 9ether beings..which is the combinations of all universal gases and everything thats in the universe and everything that it takes to create a universe dwells with-in 9 ether so it resides in us (The Nubian/ETHER-Utopians/MOORS). Are GOD nature is sleep right now because of this Death Cycle of 6 ether beings. So the "so call" black man is both GOD and ALLAH but being that we are sleep we are expressing more DEVIL then anything because all of these forces dwell with-in.
marshbey 5 months ago
No...We(nation of Gods and earths)...Are saying we are GOD & ALLAH....Peace
MRAKJ39 6 months ago
thank you for this video. I had a friend who turned sunni muslim from the nation and it really is utterly disgusting how white washed they become. Anybody that talks down on the nation or farrakhan deserves to have there tongue ripped out of their diseased mouth. All praises due to allah who came in the person of w.f muhmmad
bigshotpimp 6 months ago
@bigshotpimp
You are the 'white-washed' ones...
MoeRocco75 3 months ago
What you said saanetershuffle went over the head of Quranite Moslem. Keep up the good work saanetershuffle. The vidz represents the truth-they do not claim that the Black man & women is a deity next to Allah & this is so obvious on the vidz. Quranite could not quote u nor the videos to support his lies against u. If I was U brother don't wast your time with this Quranite Moslem he is lost.
ggyyvvxx 6 months ago
God changed to
God, god, goddess, godling, godfather, godmother
This English word can be used for humans & more.You cannot do this with Allah. Why?Because they are not the same. Anybody who is aware of the pagan european history knows that the English word GOD come from pagan origins and only a fool (quranite) will equate that with Allah's name or try to make it seem like its the same & no difference. He just dont like it but his personal feelings has no barring on the truth of the matter
wstr1 7 months ago
@wstr1 Let me kill you on this real quick. a god is a title given to objects of worship. For some the sun is a god. It may be the god of any group of people that worship it. However, 'God' spoken without 'a' or 'the' before it is a name in English for the Most High, whom in Arabic is refferred to as Allah. For those who follow the religion of Abraham God is the only god they worship. A goddess is a female object of worship. a godling is an object of worship with less status than another.
Quranite 7 months ago
@wstr1 A godfather is a 'father in god' it is an expression used for someone who was present at the christening of a child of Christian parents. A godmother is a woman who was present for such a christening. You can just look up these words in the dictionary instead of concoting your own theories. The only people who use the name 'God' or 'Allah', both names which refer to the most high for human beings are misguded trinitarian Christians. Now, revive yourself brother, and beware the fire
Quranite 7 months ago
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wstr1 7 months ago
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wstr1 7 months ago
I'm not a sunni but this video is wrong. The Quran is clear. There is to be no god but God. God without any article before it (that is 'a' or 'the') means Allah. ilaah is a god. There is to be no ilaah (god) other than Allah. Any black man who calls himself a god is going against the Quran. And our ancestors who considered other black people to be gods were going against God's teachings. Only God (i.e.) Allah can be a god for a Muslim. Also the Arabs were black before islam during early Islam.
Quranite 7 months ago
Quranite
Its no doubt that you are indoctrinated here. The English word "GOD" does not mean Allah and could never be used as a translation for ALLAH. You need to research your so-called English background because if you had done so then you would realize that the English word "GOD" came into existense as a result of "pagan origins" and as such could NEVER be used for The Creator's Holy Name: ALLAH.
In closing this video is based on common sense & Al Haqq.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle Never indoctrinated, always an independent scholar using knowledge and intelligence. The name 'God' has no more of a pagan influence than the word Allah. God comes from the noun, the/a god. It evolved into a proper name for who we know as the supreme god, the god of Abraham (sas) and cannot be used for any one else's god as a proper name. Allah comes from al-ilaahu, i.e. the god, it elided into Al-lah and became a propre name used for the supreme god, the god of Abraham.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite U claim that U are using knowledge & intelligence but I do see indonctrination of religious schools of thought created by man in U because we all know the English word "GOD" has its roots in paganisim. The Holy Qur'aan says all beautiful names are Allah's. However names of pagan origins are not beautiful names & cannot be associated with Allah. In the Arabic text of the Qur'aan the English word "GOD" does not exist. "GOD" is a pagan man-made term unlike Allah which prexisted.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle again you say the word 'god' and refuse to recognize that 'God' is a proper name and 'a/the god' is a description or a title. God like Allah is a proper name for the creator. Everyone knows this and you are trying to twist the English language to force your viewpoint. God as a name comes from 'a/the god' and Allah comes from ilaah there is almost no difference in how God and Allah branched off into proper names. Just as 'a/the god' as a word has been used for idols so has ilaah
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle sorry, so you don't get confused ilaah means a/the god, not God.
Quranite 7 months ago
PART A @Quranite Another point, this video clearly demonstrated how the pagan English word GOD can be applied to humans, women and other things. However Allah cannot be altered & changed like the English word "GOD". Allah cannot be made into a man, woman or any thing in existence
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle You can say that a human or a thing is A god but you cannot say that it is God. Just as you can call a person or a thing an ilaah but you cannot say that it is Allah. The Christian Arabs make Allah into a man, i.e. Jesus (sas). But they are wrong because Jesus (sas) is not the creator. A wrong can be someone's god but it cannot be God himself. God himself, like Allah is the creator. God comes from 'a/the god' and Allah comes from ilaah (which means god).
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite I read all ur points and its very obvious that you have not watched all the videos & that U are operating under your indonctrination of your religious sect school of thought which worships the devil's language ENGLISH.
"You can say that a human or a thing is A god but you cannot say that it is God. Just as you can call a person or a thing an ilaah but you cannot say that it is Allah."
Quranite any body who watched these videos can see that the videos does not make this claim
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@Quranite again after making this ridiculous charge or statement
"You can say that a human or a thing is A god but you cannot say that it is God. Just as you can call a person or a thing an ilaah but you cannot say that it is Allah"
If U did watch all the videos then you are here operating under EMOTION rather than reasoning & Al Haqq (The Truth). No where on the videos it claims that a human can be THE CREATOR or ALLAH, thus your point is mute & U are wasting excess oxygen for no reason
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle You are right, I am wasting oxygen. You refuse to understand. The whole point is that as a Muslim you (others can but a MUSLIM cannot) cannot call a man God or 'a god' because that would be calling him either Allah or ilaah and both are WRONG if you follow laa ilaaha illa allah. But you refuse to understand and are probably enjoying trying to consternate the conversation. Peace.
Quranite 7 months ago
PART B @Quranite You cannot even add "ing", "s" to the word ALLAH like U can to the corrupted pagan name GOD There is only LA ILAHA ILLAH ALLAH and GOD cannot be a translation nor a substitute for the original name of the Creator ALLAH unlike your pagan English word
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle Well firstly Allah is not an English word so don't expect it to following English grammatical rules or vice-versa. Allah = God, ilaah = a/the god. laa ilaaha illah allah, there is to be no god but God. You know what this means and you know the name God is a direct translation of Allah. With this you also know that no believer in the Quran can say that he is a god besides Allah/God.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite U are claiming to be a Muslim & you said this ignorant statment below
"The name 'God' has no more of a pagan influence than the word Allah"
Allah exists in Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, just to name a few. The name ALLAH is the original name of the Creator which is found in the original scriptures; there is no pagan origins or influence of the name ALLAH. Quranite I hear ghetto scholarship & by the way why do U call urself Qur'anite such name is not found in the Quraan.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle It's just plain old truth. God is a proper name which derives from the word 'a/the god.' And Allah is a proper name which derives from the term ilaah. Allah ONLY exists in Arabic. In Aramaic it is Alaha and in Hebrew it is Eloh. These words are only related because of a similar root system and they are all proper names which derive from the root aleph, lam, haa. ilaah means any god and and Allah means God, i.e. the creator. Convincing yourself otherwise does not make it true.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite
"God is a proper name which derives from the word 'a/the god.' And Allah is a proper name which derives from the term ilaah. Allah ONLY exists in Arabic. In Aramaic it is Alaha and in Hebrew it is Eloh"
More ghetto scholarship, Allah exists in all the semetic languages, its the same word. Also notice that U said "in Hebrew it is Eloh". Please expand your research because there are more names for Allah in Hebrew such as "ELAH" which is again the same as "ALLAH".
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle What name besides Quranite would you prefer? Islam means peace-making or submissiveness. I'm fine with being a peacemaker but not with being a submissive person in general. The Quran uses the term submissiveness in terms of being submissive to God, and I consider myself submissive to God but this is not expressed by the term Muslm alone. By calling myself a Quranite I am saying that I only follow the message given to God's last prophet, the Quran. And you take issue with that?
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite the name that you are using "Quranite" is no where found in the Holy Qur'aan, you are doing what the Sunni's are doing by creating a sectarian name. In the Qur'aan it was Abraham who named us Muslims before the revelation of the Qur'aan as well as in the Qur'aan
Qur'aan 22:78-"...It is he (Abraham) who has named you MUSLIMS, both before and in this (Revelation)..."
This name is far superior then ur sectarian name which is again no where found in the Holy Qur'aan.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle You are really not prepared or ready to discuss this subject as you have a severely deficient knowledge of English and I'm sure an even more deficient knowledge of Arabic. Hence you speak from a VERY limited reference point. You are not willing to open your mind in this aspect so nothing I say can help you. Check out some Quranist sites and maybe you'll pick up some things. I am a very educated native in English and am fluent in Arabic and very educated in Classical Arabic.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite It is very evident that you presented a useless argument which does not apply to these videos which ultimately proves that it is just U who have a PERSONAL PROBLEM with people calling themselves "god, gods, goddesses (which is not in the connotations of The Creator or Allah)" thus such usage in English is perfectly fine as well as the Islaamic doctrine because again the connotation of the word as which it is used is NOT in the sense of Allah or The Creator of all that exist.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@Quranite you said:
" I am a very educated native in English and am fluent in Arabic and very educated in Classical Arabic"
I hate it when people always trying to claim with their mouth that they are fluent in Arabic. Such statement (out of your mouth) proves NOTHING because every body and their momma always makes these unfounded claims which again proves nothing but what we do see is that u have a personal problem with one calling themselves "god" but not a factual problem.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle Listen, I've tried logic and good sense but I'll feed it to you like a child. god = ilaah. There is to be no ilaah other than Allah. So if you call yourself a god you are calling yourself an ilaah, and there is to be no ilaah/god other than Allah. Did you get that? I did my best not to distract you with anything else. Do you understand that to call yourself a god is to call yourself ilaah (not allah, but ilaah). This is against laa ilaaha illa allah. Got it?
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle this quaranite guy is an idiot & everything you said went over his head. The videos that you uploaded illustrated that no human can be Allah or the Creator and in English the word god can be applied to humans among other things which cannot be done with the Arabic word Allah. The videos are truth and I'm glad that you pointed out to this so-called quaranite dude that he basically have a personal problem because your information here is right on point with the facts.
wstr1 7 months ago
@wstr1 You guys are the idiots. You don't know the difference between ilaah and Allah. The Quran says there can be no ilaah except Allah. So what is an ilaah? AN ILAAH IS A GOD. So there is to be no god other than Allah. That means Allah is the only god. THERE IS NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ALLAH. LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH!! Or did that fact go over your head despite me repeating it so many times?
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite you are the true idiot because what u are saying here again is a MUTE POINT because these videos does not say that man is Allah or The Creator of all that exists. What it bears down to is that on a personal level (also probably due to your slave mentality) is that you do not like it when the Black man & woman refer to themselves as gods as in the connotation of a human, not Allah which can be done in ENGLISH; Our Nubian ancesters used the same idiom.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle OH MY GOD!! I KNOW YOU ARE NOT SAYING THAT ANY MAN IS ALLAH. I KNOW THIS!!! READ MY POST AGAIN, AND AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET IT. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT SAYING THAT ANY MAN IS ALLAH. What you ARE saying is that a man can be an ilaah. NOT ALLAH but ilaah. And that violates Laa ilaaha illa allah. If you believe in the Quran you believe in laa ilaaha illa allah. What does that mean? It means that only Allah can be an ilaah. What is an ilaah? A god. Get it?
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite You ignorantly and foolishly indicated I made this claim
"What you ARE saying is that a man can be an ilaah"
No where in my post, I say this and if so quote me instead of using rhetoric & lies! You need to watch these videos instead of coming here wasting excess oxygen because the videos neither make these claims and if so quote the videos, I challenge U with your sectarian "quaranite" name which is no where found in the Qur'aan.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle Did you not say that a man can be a god? If you said this then you are saying that a man can be an ilaah. ilaah means a god. If you say that a man can be a god, you are saying that he can be an ilaah? Why? Because whereas Allah is Allah, an ilaah in Arabic is 'a god.' 1 for 1. When you translate 'The black man is a god' in Arabic you say 'Al-aswad huwa ilaah.' Note, I never said Allah, but ilaah. But Al-quran says there can be no ilaah but Allah, hence laa ilaaha illa allah!!
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle It's simple & you endanger yourself by calling yourself a god besides Allah. Only Allah can be a god to those who follow the Quran. By taking a god other than Allah (even if it's yourself) you are exposing yourself to the Hell-fire. You cannot even believe that you are a god and believe in the Quran. The Quran says laa ilaaha illa allah. There can be no gods besides Allah! This is very simple. Any Nubian who did or said this will be facing the Hell-fire.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite you are talking about I or we going to hell, negro you sound just like a christian and thus no one here cares about your PERSONAL FEELINGS about using the English word "GOD"
It is evident that you could not quote none of my statements nor the videos to prove that we are saying that we are a DIETY in the expression: LA ILAHA (DIETY) ILLA ALLAH (THERE IS NO DIETY/GOD BUT ALLAH" so my mentally dead negro with the sectarian name (quaranite) u ARE making a MUTE POINT-u have no argument
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle Both Muslms and Christians believe in the hell-fire. But more important to a Muslim is not taking or believing in any gods besides Allah. You called yourself (and in particular the blackman) a god/ilaah, did you not? Are you now trying to act like there is a difference between a diety and a god?
Deity:
1. a god or goddess.
2. divine character or nature, especially that of the Supreme Being; divinity.
3. the estate or rank of a god: The king attained deity after his death.
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle I think it was our dear Malcom X who encouraged us to know the meanings of the words that we use. Not to make up our own meanings.
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle I wish I could really discuss this with you and have you understand but I know you are not willing. So you should do your own studies and then when or if you learn something hit me back up. Do a google search on quranists and hit up the Quranist pages. Maybe you'll get it. Maybe you won't. Peace.
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle ALL Anglo-pagans recognized 'God' as a distinct name for the supreme god and who was separate from all of their lesser gods. The same goes for Allah. The pagan arabs recognized Allah as a distinct name for the supreme god, who was separate from all of their lesser gods. Some Arabs referred to Allah or God as al-ilaahu or 'the god' impying that he was the supreme and the only one worthy of the title. The same goes for other European and non-European names for God, i.e. Allah.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite no matter how you want to flip the script the pagen English word "GOD" could not be a translation nor a name for "ALLAH" despite the fact that U find some people today using it for the Creator Allah but again when you want to dwell in root knowledge instead of branch knowledge I can see where you are coming from even though your premise is flawed.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH: There is to be NO god but God, or as you prefer it (and I have no problem with it) LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH: There is to be NO god but Allah. EITHER WAY, NO HUMAN BEING WHO FOLLOWS THE QURAN CAN CALL HIMSELF OR VIEW HIMSELF AS A GOD! ALLAH IS TO BE OUR ONLY GOD!! That is straight from the Quran. Would you deny LAA ILAAHA ILLA ALLAH and actually consider yourself a believer in the Quran?
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite U have said "NO HUMAN BEING WHO FOLLOWS THE QURAN CAN CALL HIMSELF OR VIEW HIMSELF AS A GOD" In order to see the truth, you got to remove your EMOTIONS. If you honestly watched all the videos related to this series or subject then there is no way on earth you can indicate that this video is saying that humans can be ALLAH. Remember in English we can apply the word "GOD" to humans and a lot of other things-you have to pay close to the connotation of how the word is being used.
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle There is no emotion here. It is plain as day. Laa ilaaha illa allah. There is to be NO god other than God. I NEVER said that you are saing humans can be Allah. I said that according to the phrase laa ilaaha illah allah, if you follow the Quran you CANNOT accept that a person or anything else be taken as an ilaah (a god) other than Allah himself. And lastly you cannot use the name God to refer to a human being, no more than you can use the word Allah. But you can say 'a/the god'
Quranite 7 months ago
@saanetershuffle I guess you won't recongize how you are wrong here. The NAME (not the word) God came about for the word 'a/the god.' Only the creator is referred to sas 'God.' God is a proper name. When used a a word or titile it is 'a/the god.' the word 'a/the god' is a title given to something that someone worships just like the term ilaah. GOd developed from 'the/a god' into a proper name referring to the creator. Allah developed from ilaah into a proper name for the creator as well.
Quranite 7 months ago
@Quranite Again U said "Only the creator is referred to sas 'God.' God is a proper name. When used a a word or titile it is 'a/the god" In terms of history English is a new language & none of the Prophets such as Jesus, Abraham, Muhammad, Adam, just to name a few NEVER spoke English so they never used the word GOD & in addition to this there is no original scripture that ever used the word GOD so NO Quranite "GOD" is not a proper name it is a MAN-MADE invention which again comes from paganism
saanetershuffle 7 months ago
@ayyubshabazz El exists in Arabic. It is Eel. It also means Allaah. We cannot be sure if El comes from Sumeria. It is only a theory that Sumerian is the common ancestor of the Semitic languages. Even though it would make sense Biblically since Abraham (sas) came from Ur. Who is El by the way in Sumerian? Dios and Theos both words for God come from Zeus, but remember Zeus was the Greek SUPREME GOD, i.e. God. Clasical Arabic is said to be the most conservative and hence oldest Semitic dialect
Quranite 7 months ago
@ayyubshabazz Allah cannot be pluralized. Allahiyn doesn't exist. Allahumma is not plural but a combination of Allah and the evocative umma. Allaat is not a feminine of Allaah. A feminine of Allah would have to be Allahaat or Allaahah with a taa marbootah, these two do not exist in Arabic. Elohym which is Hebrew and not Arabic is pluralized and that is because both hebrew and arabic (in different ways) use plural forms to give emphasis. Allah comes from Al-ilaahu (the god).
Quranite 7 months ago
Laa ILAAHA illa allaah. There is to be NO god but Allah. So no Allah-fearing black man can claim to be a god because there are to be NO gods but Allah. Also the author doesn't know English. If you say 'god' without saying 'a' or 'the' you are automatically saying God. God IS Allah. 'A god' is an object of extreme reverence and worship. Godfather/mother means a mother or father IN God (a christian tradition.) Allah (God) is a god (i.e. ilaaah) to us and is to be the only god of the Muslims!!
Quranite 7 months ago
Some Arabs are stupid and think they are better then everyone!
amina70angel 8 months ago
allah can be used in the feminin, allat. look it up its there. good video bra.
Malikinas 10 months ago
We need no books to tell us where the holy land is because truth is self evident. Africa is the richest land on earth. We dont need a prophet to tell us God has choosen us as his people
Because we are the first people, The fact we where here first is evidence we are picked before any goat fcking arab or jew
youngcatlaflare 11 months ago
As far as I know its a web of contradiction because like judaism and the torah creation of islam was due to miltary conquest and the unity of certain people. Just like moses helped shape the jewish faith in order to unite them. Muhammad created islam to unite the many fighting tribes of arabia under one rule.
So you as an afrikan have no real business in this affair.
They only God is the God of afrika
The only holy land is the land of afrik
youngcatlaflare 11 months ago
For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ. (5:43-48,
youngcatlaflare 11 months ago
Let us read further 5:45-48 And unto thee (Muslims) have We revealed the Scripture (the Qur'an) with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee.
youngcatlaflare 11 months ago
Now lets read more how about this verse 5:43 How come they (come) unto thee (Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)?
why would they wrote that? If there is one God there most be only one law? So who is lying and who is telling the truth?
youngcatlaflare 11 months ago
The reason why I question your understanding of verses is because in other areas it says. That the book of injeel and torah is correct and the truth. We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84)
youngcatlaflare 11 months ago
Like a dull knife just ain't cuttin' you're just talkin' a lot and sayin' nothing Just sayin' nothing, just sayin' nothing You can't tell me how to run my life down
You can't tell me how to keep my fitness sound You can't tell me what I'm doin' wrong When you keep jivin' and keep on singin' that same old funny song
You can't tell me which way to go
firstman5555 1 year ago
I heard this argument before brother.Most muslims don't know about it but when you get to the core of this belief islam/egyptiology when it comes down to it YOU BELIEVE GOD IS ALL which is basically saying all is god which is SHIRK
“He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And God is the All-Seer of what you do.” (Quran 57:4)
scorpion32 1 year ago
@scorpion32 Also don't try to deny that you say god is all this is a form of pantheism . I have met and spoken to many people who believe in what your saying. In addition I have been to those seminars of this concept that black people are gods (dont disagree with this in the non-divine sense).Also I agree that African past has been hidden such as the people of mali and senagal were advanced races not only egypt. I dont want to argue bro just trying to guide you read Quran and on tawhid please