Mos Def and Cornell West on Real Time with Bill Maher

[TheAbbot80]

You are blaming religion for politically motivated actions. Check how many bases the USA have around that region and think if a country surrounded you like that, then put you on the "axis of evil" and openly declared hostility towards you. Would you not want to take out all means to protect yourself? I don't agree with Irans politics but a lot of their actions are reactions to US policy in the region. Don't blame religion wether Islam, Christianity as these are all politically motivated action

[DiceCarlinKinison]

Maher says the Koran teaches to kill us. LOL I guess He didn't read Numbers verses 15:32, Moses told his people to stone a man to death when they caught him gathering wood on Sunday. Give me a break Bill Maher. U r a pussy like Hannity and O'Reilly and countless others who have been scared shitless by the propaganda that they themselves are being forced to spew on the air waves. Fuckin Sad.

[TheKoRninja]

@DiceCarlinKinison Obviously you haven't heard of his movie Religulous. He spends the whole movie criticising the three Abrahamic religions. He criticises Christianity more often than he does Islam. You should try learning about him before you make a comment like that. Hannity and O'Reilly won't admit that Christianity is also violent and undeserving of praise but Bill Maher is willing to admit it and does so on many occasions.

[DiceCarlinKinison]

@TheKoRninja i loved "Religulous". It was great. But I think spreading that one religion is straight up evil is a dangerous move. I wish Maher would stick with comedy. George Carlin could talk about religion in the same shape and form...but Carlin was funnier about it and it didn't piss me off. All religions are the equal amount of bullshit. thanks for the comment though

[TheKoRninja]

@DiceCarlinKinison Well it appears you know more than I originally thought, I apologize for assuming. (Btw Carlin is awesome) The problem is that at least Christianity has altogether moved on from the violence that it teaches other than isolated cases of the murder of abortion doctors. Islam controls its own countries where aldultery, apostacy, and criticism about Islam is met with stonings. Hell, Salman Rushdie has a price on his head and Theo Van Gough was nearly beheaded.

[DiceCarlinKinison]

@TheKoRninja no apology necessary. i understand your comment. it's hard to wrap our minds around certain comments...especially my own. lol I'm trying to understand...r most people in Iran trying to kill as many non-islam people as they can? what exactly are they taught these days?... and does the media exaggerate in anything on the subject of Islam? I'm trying to understand it without hearing from someone pushing propaganda for a new war on false accusations like WMD. thanks

[LPhils]

idiots debate about non-sense like man made shiit to distract away from the truth. bill eat your own words "doesn't mean your right... "

[free2bpoppie]

Whether or not you agree with the man, you have to at least admire his putting himself out there like this.

Anything that is seen can be disputed.

[BAGAKOOS]

Mos speakin' the truth

[66ajlong]

mos def = excellent rapper but complete idiot. paranoia keeps the adrenaline pumping. if he wasn't a hip hop artist, he would be on 'jackass'

[braininahat]

You could learn ten cliches and pass off as an intellectual to most black Liberals. It's sad not just that Maher is considered insightful, that Mos Def is listened to, but that Cornel West hasn't been laughed out of academia yet. Oh wait! He has been laughed out of academia; he holds his position because of PC policies.

Mos Def makes good rap music, or he used to, but he's not intelligent. He parrots what every teenager parrots: Democrat talking points.

[marlboroman1985]

Nothing like sheep applauding platitudes.

[hansjalv]

Cornell West has so much education and Mos Def has so little, so how is it that Mos def understands so much more than Cornell West??

[neeltennis93]

@hansjalv ....what segment of the video shows how mos def understands more than cornell west??? infact it doesn't have to be in this video, give me any URL that shows that mos def understands more than Cornell West.

I haven't seen any that do, so enlighten me. please.

[AmericanBadass44]

The moon landings have pretty much been proven. The detection on Earth of reflections from retroreflectors (mirrors used as targets for Earth-based tracking lasers) on lunar laser ranging experiments left on the Moon is evidence of landings and the landing site has been photographed by LRO.

If somebody told this to Mos Def, he probably wouldn't have any idea what it meant.

[dedseason]

@AmericanBadass44 they aint prove shit the never landed on the fuckin moon!!!!!!!

[heruthemaster]

@dedseason i believe they did land on the moon but i understand yur pathology to support the enemy of your enemy and you have every right to disagree with yur opressor

[mowgli2071]

No they didn't go to the moon. The got in the rocket, took off, drove around for an hour, then landed in the same spot, after everyone went home. Not a fan of this moron.

[hookalakah]

"Cornel West, the Princeton professor of African-American studies...has never been much more than a six-figure entertainer, ready to bite the hand that pays him even while reaching for his check. He has never seen a microphone or television camera that he did not like.

Publicity, not scholarship, is his true tradition. West often gives his listeners no more than sound and fury, signifying nothing. And he is very good at appearing overcome by his passionate convictions." --Stanley Crouch

[milcookful]

Two Niggers!!!!

[RHallman321]

@milcookful I bet they're both much smarter than you! Ignorance is a clear example of stupidity! Bet u think 3 steel buildings fell at free-fall speed and turned to DUST b/c of GRAVITY, too, huh!?!? Yeah, thought so.....

[milcookful]

@RHallman321 I respect Cornell West---My Nigger comment was wrong for him. Mos Def is a fuckin nigger idiot who wants himself and his thug nigger friends to to be able to deal drugs and rob people with their illegal guns! Without being bothered by the the police.

[RHallman321]

@milcookful That's not wut he meant at all, u racist idiot! U ever c the way cops treat black people!?!? Not like whites, not by a long shot!!! I Live in Philly, so u can't tell me that's B.S.! He's an artist, he spends his time in studios, not street-corners! It's just poetry about wut he grew up around & sees! Get some brains in ur head b4 u go spoutin' the word NIGGER like that's acceptable. Maybe if cops actually cared about nabbin' the real bad guys, shit wouldn't b that way 4 his culture!

[dedseason]

@milcookful SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!

[dedseason]

@milcookful mos def and thug dont even belong in the same sentence cops are killing everyone black, white it dont matter stupid people like yourself need to wake the fuck up to whats going on with these fucking cops!

[dedseason]

@milcookful yeah bill maher and your dumb ass

[couzinric999]

@davidjames98 99.9% of Africans in Amerikkka are now House Nigga's, but I din't believe that Dr. West is one of them, Dr. West is more like the spook that sat behind the door... educating or Brainwashing the rich white youth with ethics...

[couzinric999]

99.9% of Africans in Amerikkka are now House Nigga's, but I din't believe that Dr. West is one of them, Dr. West is more like the spook that sat behind the door... educating or Brainwashing the rich white youth with ethics...

[ILUVJEZUZ94]

@couzinric999 What 99.9% of Africans in America are House Nigga's. NAH. I can not say 99.9% that is really high. Because if it was that high, the unemployment rate would be alot lower than what it is for African Americans.

[astro15]

Mos Def should go back in time and watch the WTC collapse and then tell me if he fells danger.

[hcsuarnefeiT]

Bill Maher is a hilarious retard cowboy boy.

[davidjames98]

cornel west = house niggar

[ILUVJEZUZ94]

@davidjames98 Why because he is educated.

[ricardofuego]

Bill Maher is a libertarian but still is a white libertarian. He has to be explained (and Cornel West do it so right) why black americans are skeptical about islamic terrorism being the boogie man of the US. I don't think he's an anti-imperialist either.

[SwaggerLikeUz]

Who benefited from 911 is the question? Not terrorists, not us, so who? Just follow the money, & it will lead you the Elites. Who dress in Suit N Ties, those are the true Terrorists. I'm talking about McCain or Obama, no its the individuals you never see. Who run our world. They own the Major Banks, they run the black budget, engineer crisis to their advantage, get Laws passed by funding Candidates, suppress knowledge, etc. Presidents come & go, but the Shadow Gov't is always in power. Peace :(

[humza2k6]

Im from the UK, and we dont have shows like this, where there is outspoken, debates regarding politics and stuff. Imagine on this show there was, immortal technique, mos def & Dr Cornel west. Man, Bill Maher would be put to silence!

[3nipatria12]

@humza2k6 howcome?

[humza2k6]

@3nipatria12

F**k knows. Ther is a program on d bbc, bt bbc is soo biased, so labour-side. And Sky News, thts conservative! I dnt even lisn to bbc or sky news. If only these guys such as cornel west can come to the UK tv n giv a speech, and shut up all the so-called "political analyst" when they dnt knw jack shit thts goin on.

[TheAziz1997]

Mos Def nows the truth about illuminatie.

[Romello4u]

Mos Def does his case no good by sounding high as hell and slurring his words... C West has to jump in and bable some psycho nonesense to save him?

[TheAdfather]

2.41 he does the devil sign

[st3nkobe]

@TheAdfather hahaha saw that. Doesn't feel natural when i do it but hey never know lol

[GhostSoldier77777]

Dr. West = genius.

Mos Def is usually impressive but wearing that hat and clothes made him look like a clown.

[st3nkobe]

@GhostSoldier77777 He is rich as fuck and can do what he pleases pluss Maher doesn't have a dress code on his show, he has said that. stfu

[maju786]

fuck bill maher the devil worshipping bitch.

[neeltennis93]

@maju786 ????

[siyengar9821]

"Most Definitely" is a monkey. Fucking needs to evolve a little bit. Walks like one and talks like one. Can't believe a douchebag like him can be on TV or even get to speak to a national audience.

[HipHopnBall]

@siyengar9821 bitch, who the fuck are you

[siyengar9821]

@HipHopnBall i am a nobody. i do have a post grad degree in math and a strong dislike for Hip-hop-herpes and the culture that it represents. I take pride in despising people like Most Definitely. I am also a far-left liberal who voted for Obama (in '08 and will vote for him in '12) and someone who is not white (just so you don't call me a racist) I hope I answered your question macaque.

[Keepsu]

@siyengar9821 Far-left liberal? Liberals are centrists you dumb mook: 10 degrees to the left of center in good times; 10 degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.

[Hallinilla9]

Dr. West is the fuckin man.

[chicago6584]

What Bill O'Reilly is to the conservatives, Bill Maher has become to the rationalists.

[siyengar9821]

@chicago6584 To be honest, O'Reilly is any day better than the other numb skulls Hannity, Beck and their girlfriend Rush Limbaugh.

[KurtCobainof21]

By the way I fail to see how I was impolite.

[darrenprosser1]

Well then, I guess we can agree to disagree. I do not think they are working against muslims as a primary agenda but they certainly don't care if this group is maligned. 911 also served as a pretext to our current military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan-wish does generate substantial income for some segments . I used to believe it was a terrorist action but there are just too many odd circumstances present to allow me to subscribe to the Bin Laden did it version as much as I wish I could.

[KurtCobainof21]

@darrenprosser1 There are explainations for every one of the originally considered to be odd facts about 9/11.

Just like with the moon conspiracy.

And do you think its more advantageous for a party in power to not have a terrorist attack than to have a terrorist attack and get some oil as far as the next election is concerned? The only reason Bush did, was because it was against John Kerry.

I agree that Bush used the 9/11 to meet American selfish needs but 9/11 was not a govt act

[darrenprosser1]

@KurtCobainof21 I think it is much deeper than just oil profits and getting Saddam as is some of the obvious by products of 911. I am not even sure Bush had anything to do with it. From 911 to 7-7 to Madness in the Fast Lane it all ties together somehow. Granted, at this point, I can't tell you how but you have to admit these freakish things are turning up in British and American society with ever increasing frequency. To frequent to be explained by just mere happenstance in my opinion.

[KurtCobainof21]

@darrenprosser1 Define "freakish things", if you really think 9/11 and 7/7 are by products of govt, and theyre all tied in I think its ridiculous. I'm sure the bombings in Mumbai were also linked. And so were the Chechen hostage takings, and the FAILED attempt at re-doing 9/11 to the Eiffel Tower and the hundreds of other terrorist attacks that have been taking place for several decades. I think you really need a reality check.

"Increasing frequency"-Read Osamas Fatwa against the West (1998)

[darrenprosser1]

Just one of many is how 911 and 7/7 were carried out on days the government was running mock attacks that followed the same script as the real attacks, then the attackers IDS are found at both bomb sites despite everything being blown to smithereens. I do not doubt Osama has orchestrated terrorist attacks elsewhere. I just dont believe 911 and 7/7 were his compositions. Remember how BP followed a very specific protocol during the oil spill. It is obvious the perps do the same for False flag ops

[darrenprosser1]

Further, I am not saying the Mumbai bombing or Chechen hostage crisis were false flag ops. Yes, the radical muslim world does not care for the west and is opposed to the point of using deadly violence. However, this premise allows others with hidden motives to use this fact as a pretext to achieve certain goals. Here in the states every one of our terrorist events has fishiness written all over them from Oklahoma City to WTC93 to the latest 911.

[KurtCobainof21]

@darrenprosser1 Theres no point reasoning with you

[darrenprosser1]

@KurtCobainof21 Actually, I thought we were having a fine discussion. Sorry you feel this way. Oh well...God Bless.

[KurtCobainof21]

@darrenprosser1 Sorry dude, but yeah

[yomamalikedit]

@darrenprosser1

I like the way that you articulated your point. I agree with you, previous to researching 911 I held the truth that it was pure terrorists but I have tried to be objective, and there are so many things that I cannot buy as explanations that I have to agree with you and Mos Def. There is definitely something deeper than just some hijackers. and to top it off, to this day bin laden has not been linked to 9/11 by the FBI, people still forget that little tiny fact, check their site

[gmares]

9/11 was the result of Zionist foreign policy.

[tdot22]

@scottricerules ... This show passes as being intellectual!?!? You must be really dumb! I bet you have no idea what the Federal Reserve is and who owns it? I bet you have no idea on what American foreign policy is, I bet you have no idea behind the significance of the Gulf of Tonkin, or what AIPAC is and what it does?

[Jebman1]

Cornell west is a great speaker.

[chiledoug]

i used to watch him when i had cable... liked the guests...it was funny and interestin.. but he is very afraid about going to deep...he likes his job...and you don't think hbo is sponsered think again

[sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf]

if blacks have it so hard why do AFricans get such good grades and such good Jobs? Indians? Asians?

People from Africa

[KTM21]

@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf did you not listen to Mr. West?

[sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf]

@KTM21 yes I did. Racism "white supremacy" only hurts African Americans and Hispanics...

but that just goes to say USA treats blacks better than countries full of blacks.

[darrenprosser1]

Notice how fast Maher turns on Mos Def when Mos deviates from a topic that Maher acts like he is paid to enforce ie-Gov version of 911. Suddenly Maher acts like Mos just got up and urinated in his cherrios. Why is Maher so dogmatic about this issue when there are some very good points for not believing the Government (in general) as Dr West so eloquently explains. Mos is skeptical and with justification in my view. No need for Maher to pull the you is one crazy brother routine.

[chiledoug]

@darrenprosser1 yah notice hime throwing up the sign at about 405

[KurtCobainof21]

@darrenprosser1 People like you believe anything just cause its more exciting,

Is it more exciting to believe man went to the moon or not? NOT

Is it more exciting to believe 9/11 was the terrorists or the govt? THE GOVT

You are not the slightest bit interested in the truth. You only care about what is more exciting to believe. Just like how you believe in your religion. If you were interested in the truth youd see how stupid these conspiracy theories are

[darrenprosser1]

First, I believe we did go to the moon. Second, It would be a lot easier to believe it was Bin Laden that evil men at home. Sorry, I am not interested in excitement. Why do you comment on my religion. I do not think it was relative to my past comment-was it? Sir, if you wish to be civil and disagree in a polite manner I would engage you but blanket statements such as the one you have made just indicate you are a type of troll neither interested in the truth or defending your point of view.

[KurtCobainof21]

@darrenprosser1 When I said your religion I meant ones religion,

If you really think the media is working hand in hand with the govt who are determined to give muslims a bad name (cause thats what Mos Def believes), then I truly think you are not interested in the truth. Media and the govt are curropt, but only because of MONEY, not because they hate a sector of USA. Thats rubbish. Second of all a govt in power can only lose popularity for an incident like this. Even if it meant stealing OIL.

[darrenprosser1]

First, I believe we did go to the moon. Second, it would be easier to believe Bin Laden was responsible rather than evil men here at home. Sorry, I am not interseted in excitement and neither are people who question the myriad of weird circumstances surrounding 911. Further, what does my religion have to do with this. It was not relative to the post. Sir, your blanket statements about myself simply indicate you are trolling and not truly trying to engage in a meaningful debate.

[julioshawtylean76]

real talk and funny

[sgtpepper33]

Mos def makes black men look stupid, real stupid. Cornel West gives them hope.

[delirious44]

@sgtpepper33 Who the fuck are you that I should worry that you think I look stupid BIG UP MOS DEF He can Express his opinion how he likes regardless if I agree with him or not

[celestialnubian]

@sgtpepper33

No, Cornel West is just translating Mos Def for the rest of you. I understood what Mos Def was saying perfectly.

[emery4848]

Ok this is a comedy show the moon thing was a joke...maybe....but Bin laden admitted it on our news channels interpreted for us....so unless you speak arabic you can not say what bin laden did or did not say...Mos Def has a point and he says it in his own way and style which is funny....get over it elvis fan22

[elvisfan22]

Mos Def talks like a "Rocky Balboa" fucking retard. And he doesn't believe that Bin Laden did anything?? OR bin Laden is a problem??

[perpetualpeace81]

@elvisfan22

Ask yourself why a different dialect other than "standard," i.e. bourgeois English, offends you so. There are some points in there if you care to listen.

[elvisfan22]

@perpetualpeace81: For one, nobody said "listen to the points not the dialect" when Bush spoke (double standard) and two, putting his slang aside he sounds like a moron no matter how he says "I don't believe Bin Laden did anything... I don't believe we went to the moon" Every Gov agency in the world; thousands of followers; plus bin laden himself admits it!!

[Pher0cious]

how can Maher not believe 9/11 was inside job... I expected him to be smarter than that...

[chipper1001]

@Pher0cious It's weird how he is so rational concerning problems with religion but he shuts his mind off to other parts (9/11).

[cbat45]

mos def=idiot

cornel west=idiot

maher=funny idiot

[bapyou]

@cbat45 cbat45 = biggest idiot

[Merginator999]

@bapyou ATLEAST HES PRO AT DOING SOMETHING :P

[siyengar9821]

@bapyou and you are the grand daddy of all of them. you moron, most definitely is not only an idiot but his IQ is lower than corpse. Cornell west is a respectable human being but dull. Maher is funny but full of himself. Calling these three people idiots is not egregious.

[bapyou]

@siyengar982 Sorry, none of these people are "idiots" in the true sense of the word. Mos Def is an intelligent individual and Dr. West is a brilliant man. Maher I dislike for his thoughtless, unexamined stance on Israel/Palestine.

A true idiot is someone passing judgement on another based on an inconsequential You Tube comment.

Cheers bunny slippers!

[ezekielthemack]

@siyengar9821 .... Cornell west is a respectable human being but dull. Maher is funny but full of himself. - and you are a typical dull myopic pasty faced idiot.Now fuck off and take your sanctimony with you!!

[XxUrSoLoStxX]

This is exactly why this country will never move fowards and will crumble in on itself. Ignorance and white guilt at its finest, absolutely pathetic.

[chrisizq]

3 clowns....sad but funny.

[dovespin1]

mos def is off his rocker. wake up brother man

[ZenCross1]

NO I can't deal with it. I'm falling apart. If I only I believed everything the media told me.

[ZenCross1]

They're talking about 911 being an inside job again. Better turn the volume low on this one, YouTube. Keep denying this point of view, Bill, and maybe they'll let you keep your job.

[Stormwern]

He thinks you're crazy, deal with it.