Thanks for calling these too on some bull here Epy. TAA for just being wrong about what Jefferson was saying, and whoever this other person is for having no conception of human rights. I don't think that we are created equal and by virtue of this have certain rights, since I don't believe in objective value. However, functionally I want to exist in a world which behaves as though this is true, and so will help defenders of fundamental human rights (as you are doing here) when the chance arises.
Okay, so some atheists are racist, what does that have to do with atheism? They were not brought to their conclusion because of their atheism, so why do you feel the need to direct this video at atheists? It is ironically discriminatory to that demographic. Furthermore, you quote mined the Amazing Atheist, misrepresented his views, and argued a straw man.
I think you are trying to force implications which were not being made. Feel free to attempt to clarify TAA if you think I didn't represent him accurately.
@Epydemic2020 TAA said in the video that he does think we should have equality of the law for pragmatic reasons. He was not attempting to argue against Jefferson's point, which dealt with equal civil rights under the law, ever, so arguing against him as if he was is a straw man. TAA's point was that we should not treat people as equals since we are not equals, not based on demographics, but based on individuals. He was not saying that we should be treated with different inherent values.
When Jefferson talked about "all men being created equal" TAA critiqued that. TAA seemed to be misunderstanding Jefferson's meaning, as his critique did not disprove what Jefferson said/meant.
He explicitly quotes Jefferson and then calls his notion naive.
@Epydemic2020 You are taking his reference to the Constitution way too seriously. You actually think he was critiquing the notion of equal rights? No, he was critiquing the notion of equality among people overall, such to assert that we are all not equal. He said the notion that we are all equal is naive, which it is. Not the notion that we should all be treated equally under the law, he specifically affirmed that in his video.
My fat friend isn't arguing with Jefferson. He's arguing with this ridiculous notion of behavioral homogeneity in an ostensibly heterogenous populace. The greater point of the video was how we as a society need to stop being ridiculous wrist-flapping pussies. That girl that came next is exactly the kind of mouth-breather that's gonna end up toasting this space rock of ours.
Anyone who argues for racial superiority / inferiority must start with an objective definition of the races they are discussing. At best this is highly a highly problematic exercise which ends up illuminating the irrationality of their original premise.
Can you prove that there is no proof for God? I have a funny feeling that you'll say, I don't have to prove it's up to the theist to prove it, which is pretty much either trolling or just a copout.
Btw, absolute negatives like the one you just claimed are mostly self-contradictory. If you can't prove it, then don't claim it.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. You say there is NO proof of God. That statement is an absolute negative. Absolute statements are statements that stated as if they are fact. This means that when you claim it, you do so with the assumption that you KNOW that such proof does not exist. Therefore in order to claim such, you must FIRST possess such knowledge. Do you REALLY know that proof for God is nonexistent? If not, then you cannot claim it.
@BassP86 BUT HELLO, there is no proof for god and I can state that as a fact. Give me me one piece of evidence that proves his existence...exactly there's not so there's no proof and that in my eyes can be stated as fact. Good sir, have you heard of the big bang?
"Give me me one piece of evidence that proves his existence" - Let's say I were to sit down with you and answer EVERY question of yours to YOUR complete satisfaction. If that were to happen and you were given evidence that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to YOUR complete satisfaction that God existed, would accept His existence as a true? Furthermore, if you accepted His existence as true, would you choose to follow Him?
because the big bang states it started in one specific point full of energy, then it exploded and formed all the matter today, it's not a complete guess because there is evidence to support it for example: redshift, redshift is when the wavelength is long (microwave) and it indicates things are moving away from us because it's red shifted. This means the universe is expanding because it's red shifted this then means if you reverse it, it goes to one point. Also CMBR is the heat left over
@BassP86 because in Christianity, it states that he made the earth and then made light or whatever order it is but the most logical answer is that the big bang started the universe and the bible doesn't mention anything about god creating the big bang it states other ways which are idiotic. I know you might not be a member of a particular religion but I'm saying that the big bang disproves Christianity, Islam and all those gods
You do know the Bible makes no such claims explicitly, nor does the Koran, right? Some ancient Jewish traditions translate the book of Genesis to mean "day-age", not days by means of 24 hours. Secondly, the Bible is not designed to tell HOW God made the universe. The point is is that He MADE it.
To say the Big Bang disproves "all those gods" is VERY vague. How do you KNOW it disproves EVERY deity?
@BassP86 god said 'let there be light' but it was the big bang creating light energy from the point and the people that wrote the bible would have no idea it's just made up stuff.
I'm not familiar a whole lot with the Qur'an.
I would obviously accept his existence because there's proof and I wouldn't follow him because the bible shows signs of: homophobia, it has contradictions, misogynistic, it creates sexual misery.
Btw, you still haven't answer my question: If (hypothetically speaking) you were shown all the evidences that gave you 100% satisfaction that God DOES exist, would you accept His existence? Secondly, if you accepted His existence, would you choose to follow Him?
In other words, even though you are not actually saying that you can prove it or that you have to prove it, that statement is inherently dependent on proof in order to be claimed regardless. Therefore you cannot say "there is no proof for God" because you don't have the knowledge necessary to make that claim.
The claim you CAN make however, is that you "have not SEEN any arguments that convince you that God exists", because there's no contradiction there.
@BassP86 good sir, have you heard of the big bang? and like I said there is no proof for god and that is a fact because there's been no proof for years and there won't be mate sorry.
I love that the opening quote was from a secular non-christian (reported pantheist, suspected Atheist).
-HeyRuka is a RACIST hiding behind Atheism and BS pseudo-science just like some bigots (KKK/WBC) hide behind God; using her as an example is like using the WBC as an example for ALL christians. Every group has bad apples and you know that, I'm honestly disappointed you'd swing so low.
Thanks for the vid, epydemic. Most of the time a racist person would be shouted down with ad hominem attacks but I'm glad to see you refuted that chick's position logically. I like how you posited that IQ has nothing to do with the worth of an individual--a point Peter Singer has used to defend the equality of animals. I hope you do a video on the moral status of animals in the future, and explain why you think they matter less than we do without appealing to differences in intelligence.
This is not an attack on atheism at all. This is an attack on "two particular atheists which we should not emulate because they have improper thinking". I made it clear within the video that even given atheistic assumptions these individual's conclusion was not warranted.
@Epydemic2020 well please explain how putting "Atheists not to emulate" is different than "whites not to emulate", their Atheism is unrelated to the topic.
@Epydemic2020 What if I put a video that was, Slavery, genocide, christains? Then pulled a few youtube scources that defended these causes, they happen to be christians. Would you say that would be a fair tittle for a vidoe?
@killer4hire To you people Anything that goes against your worldview. Is a strawman. Because you cant take a difference to your close minded world view. Yes i get you think every religious person is evil and deserves harsh punishment for being different form your boring worldview. You love nature so much you hug a tree every day. You love logic and reason so much you want to marry it and keep it close to you. I call it boring. Because last time i check. People where not robots.
“If more black people are around, more white people will choose to have children with them.”
Where do you come up with this stuff?
What if I said there was this RACE problem and it would be solved if millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And that is GENOCIDE.
"…Good argument stand despite the character…” I knew you were a Psychopath and I was correct to state it earlier. With your twisted logic and contorted wordish approach you could justify Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin. Why you could justify anything. But spinning facts does not change reality. Your comments are nothing but justifications for White Genocide.
"Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found out."
This is not invovled with school in any way. I didn't say anything about how bad whites are because I don't think whites a bad. I think individuals who are white can be good or bad, just like any other race. Individuals can be intelligent or, as your comment seems to accidentally show, individual's can be pretty stupid.
IQ= largely genetical,a son of 2 smart people and of a family with inteligent and sucessfull people usually comes up intelligent,FACT.
So,why can't good genetical traits like high IQ pass on large scale?
It's ridiculous,it's ideological to deny it,equalitarianism and multiculturalism are like a religion,you follow it blindly and deny scientific evidences,just like in the inquisition with galileo,the poor man couldn't say the earth wasn't flat.
I didn't argue it was impossible for genetic traits to pass on a large scale.
I argued that we have no reason to think that race is the determiner of your IQ, I argued that even if these traits were caused by different races that wouldn't establish a racial hierarchy, and I argued that Ruka had a poorly thought out political ideas.
@Epydemic2020 what about all the IQ studies considering the variations?it wouldn't establish a racial hierarchy but i see no benefit on europe and USA being invaded by lower IQ people that generally make a society much worse.
Some use science to justify white genocide, others use spurious-logic. Still others say its racist not to assimilate and intermarry with non-whites. But whatever tactic or strategy is used, the end result ANTI-WHITES seek is the same. Elimination of the white race and its culture. You are nothing new to the list of psychopaths that contrive to commit genocide against whites, and you certainly are not the cleverest. Your pseudo intellectual veneer does not deceive anyone of your nauseous intent.
You have drastically misused the terms genocide and psychopath, as well as ascribed to me motives I do not have.
I am white, why would I seek to eliminate the white race? That notion is really dumb.
On a different note, I don't support separate societies for different races because I think it is a bad idea. Plain and simple. More borders -> more wars and more us vs them mentality. I'd rather anybody be able to live anywhere and marry whoever they choose.
If you want to live in an area that has mostly white people (I have no idea why that seems to be so important to you but whatever) then go ahead. If you want to marry white people and associate with white people, go ahead. Establishing a border that prevented non-white people from living there would become a racist haven (because not all white people would have innocent motives for escaping contact w/ other races).
Epydemic believes the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
He says, “borders that prevented non-white people from living there would become a RACIST haven.”
This type of tripe is said only about WHITE countries. But when anyone tells the obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against the white race they are called RACIST. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
"Epydemic believes the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."
How about I make my own argument instead of you trying to make them up for me.
I don't particularly care about immigration laws they are complex and have little to nothing to do with race, but I think dividing america up into "black only" or "white only" groups is a terrible idea. I am not anti-white, i am just anti-stupid policies.
I see you have CENSORED anyone who disagrees with your genocidal opinions. Over ten responses dismantling your anti-white rhetoric have been spammed.
Whites who sanction genocidal laws and behaviors that affect our white children and people are TRAITORS, plain and simple. But the calculated ‘genocide’ against our people can be turned. Avoid, the ensnaring complexities of anti-white subterfuge, and stick to the fundamentals: They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
I have not marked anything as spam, and everytime I see something marked as spam which Is not I unspam it. If i wanted to censor anyone, as the author of this channel I can remove a comment completely rather than just mark it as spam, or I could even block individuals entirely. Even though I find your position to be incredibly ignorant, I choose to do neither. Letting you speak openly and freely does nothing except expose how ignorant your position is, so by all means keep talking
I have not marked anything as spam, and everytime I see something marked as spam which Is not I unspam it. If i wanted to censor anyone, as the author of this channel I can remove a comment completely rather than just mark it as spam, or I could even block individuals entirely. Even though I find your position to be incredibly ignorant, I choose to do neither. Letting you speak openly and freely does nothing except expose how ignorant your position is, so by all means keep talking
The immigration Act of 1965 sponsored by Cellers and supported by Kennedy has dramatically changed the demographics of this country. The USA was close to 90% white from the late 1890’s to the 1970’s. Whites will be a minority in their own county by 2042. That’s less than 80 years after the Act became law. You are either naïve or very devious to state that immigration is not race based. But then again it has not gone unnoticed that you use Jefferson, (a slave owner) to justify equality. LOL
I didn't appeal to Jeffersons actions, but to his philosophy. Good argument stand despite the character of the individuals who first propose the arguments.
Immigration is not based upon race. Changing demographics are a side effect. If more black people are around, more white people will choose to have children with them. It is not accurate to call a white person choosing to marry a different race as "genocide".
@wolfram54321: "But then again it has not gone unnoticed that you use Jefferson, (a slave owner) to justify equality."
Funny how Jefferson was born into a slave-owning family yet wanted to see the institution scaled down and eliminated..........who knows? IMHO, If the Revolution had failed, slavery might have been around for much, much, longer.
@wolfram54321 "in their own country"!! if a country can "belong" to anyone it's the Native American's country, not Europeans (which is what white people are). holy shit you're backwards.
I knew you were a Psychopath and was correct to state it earlier. With your twisted logic and contorted wordish approach you could justify Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin. And you certainly don’t let facts get in the way of you agenda. But spinning facts does not change reality. Your twaddle is nothing but justification for White Genocide.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found out.
Just because I don't see any legal, moral, or even practical need/grounds for establishing areas where only one race is allowed and giving establishing borders does not mean I am against white people or white culture.
That is not genocide. That fact that you even try to use the word "genocide" devalues the term. It makes a mockery of every real genocide that has ever occurred to even try to put those two things in the same category.
No one is getting eliminated. You have the freedom to marry whoever you want and have as many kids as you want with whoever you want. Nobody is killing off white people. Nobody is getting eliminated. What in the world are you crying about?
Anti-whites are always spouting about how massive immigration and assimilation demanded of ALL white countries and ONLY white countries is just Freedom.
As Bill O'Reilly said, "There should be no all-white ANYTHING in America."
For all their "diversity" talk, all-white areas are forbidden because people will MOVE there. If we had freedom of choice, integration would be doomed.
That is the justification for our entire set of laws, the ones Bill O'Reilly is all for and states so clearly.
I would be just as upset if you were a black person arguing about some farcical black genocide taking place in america and I think it is just as stupid to demand a country of all black people with borders to prevent other races from entering.
If white people were actually being killed, then I would be very opposed to that genocide. You however, are hijacking and misusing the term. It is nothing more than sensationalist rhetoric like all of your pre-canned propaganda phrases.
You said that exact thing earlier, and I already responded. White people are not being eliminated. You are free to mary a white person or procreate with as many white people as you want. Nobody is preventing your ability to make lil white babies and nobody is eliminating those children.
All non-white countries can refuse this immigration if they want and they do!
No "anti-racists" attack them in any effective manner.
Yet if any white country wants to even discuss this issue, out come the anti-white genocide pushers, accusing them of being naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews.
Japan is 98.5% Japanese. They refuse massive immigration and forced integration. They send illegals home as a matter of routine. No one calling them nazis. No one cares.
Does your confirmation bias prevent you from seeing when I answer your questions? Scroll up, I answered your question directly. However, I am only commenting about American policy. You have the right to exist. You have the right to live wherever you want. Everyone else has these rights as well. Do you believe white genocide is occurring in america or not?
Not according to your anti-white PC state Religion we don`t.
Mass immigration and "assimilation" for all white countries and ONLY white countries.
The continued existence of white children is supposedly "irrelevant" and their existence as a group should not be defended from policies that will lead to their extinction as a group!
You can`t wash your hands of the responsibility for the anti-white policies you support.
No,I ONLY have the ability to pro-create with those people who are in my white countries(with my people),and guess what,you anti-whites are flooding all those white countries with racial aliens and demanding we accept "assimilation" as a valid societal condition.Thereby you anti-whites are continually reducing the numbers of potential white females in my white countries.
It is deliberate policy of white genocide you call it "Celebrating Diversity".
@Epydemic2020 Does your confirmation bias prevent you from seeing when I answer your questions? Scroll up, I answered your question directly. However, I am only commenting about American policy. You have the right to exist. You have the right to live wherever you want. Everyone else has these rights as well. Do you believe white genocide is occurring in america or not?
Also, I never said that I was or wasn't white myself.
For all you know I'm actually a penguin with robot hands that can use a computer and am secretly the head of a CIA-funded government operation to wipe out a very small group of Black Canadians, but only the ones that have converted to Judaism, and only the ones that currently live in Indonesia, and only the ones that drive a Toyota Prius. You don't know anything about me or my views.
If you support mass immigration and "assimilation" for all white countries and ONLY white countries you are an anti-white.
If you say the continued existence of white children is "irrelevant" and should not be defended from policies that will lead to their extinction as a group you are an anti-white.
If you insist white people are not allowed to have their own countries and self determination like non-whites in non-white countries you are an anti-white.
1. I do not support mass assimilation any more or less than I support isolationism. I support the freedom of an individual to move to a country or location within a country where it is legal and ethical for them to do so. How we go about deciding what is "legal and ethical" is by no means a simple matter, so I can not give you a simple answer as to what that means.
2. The continued existence of EVERYTHING is irrelevant.
Yes, of course you are an anti-white. You support the continued existence of every race except the White race. You cannot say it is a complicated matter whether White children are allowed a homeland of their own or not. Either White children are allowed the homelands their ancestors built for them or you are anti-White. And here you state, you oppose “Isolationism” meaning you demand non-white immigration for every White country. Anti-Racism is a codeword for anti-White.
@GobiWanu "White" is not a "Race", it is a level of skin pigmentation that fits within a range of skin pigmentation. I could not care less about skin pigmentation. It is a completely trivial genetic variation within society. Its only importance is if it is an amount that helps or harms the individual's ability to protect themselves from, or utilize the rays of the sun.
If we all end up a brown-gray, or a variety of bright colors in 10,000 years, I will not shed a tear either way
@PhilStrohmann If white is not a race then why do you idiots never say that black is not a race? Why aren't you posting on all the black videos telling the black supremacists that they don't exist? Because they would call you a racist?
@DollaBiIIz Black isn't a race. Black is a human concept referring to a population who share a certain set of genetic and/or morphological traits. If race can be equated to genes or morphology, then depending on where you draw the line you can go from 1 human race, to 7 billion races, each one representing a certain individual and their characteristic traits.
I no more support "black supremacy" than I support "white supremacy". I find both concepts to be logically incoherent.
Second, I think it could be argued that it is racist to state that I should go to the ghetto to find a group of black people, and it could also be argued that it is racist to automatically assume black people would use violence against me for stating my views on genetics.
Just a moment ago I was being called "anti racist" for stating this exact thing, and now I am being called a "racist". I think there is some disagreement on what "race" means.
Think for yourself people. I am tired of hearing the same dribble repeated as if they are arguments. If you want to argue for racism, give me something that isn't prepackaged propaganda.
"lol, do you think I support either of those two people? "
Your anti-white Political Correctness State Religion supports those characters,and many more genocidal anti-whites just like them hiding behind "anti-racism".
It`s a scam,and it`s over anti-white: Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white
Hey,let`s flood all black countries and ONLY black countries with millions of non-blacks and order the blacks to "assimilate" with those non-blacks.Resistors can be demonized as "evil racists" and suffer loss of livelihood and/or imprisonment.
Who could ever accuse us of advocating black genocide,after all,it`s all about the "equality" don`t ya know?
Because Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Wow... I am always floored when I hear someone try to justify racism. It's just... It seriously tests my ability to remain objective in the discussion.
@AlexanderDina The way you have described my views is inaccurate, I am sorry to say. I am not "Anti-White" any more than I am "Pro-Jew" (or "Anti-Jew" for that matter)
I have opinions about the political state and culture of Israel, but I do not believe that Jews are somehow "Genetically predisposed to be this way or that way", at least not any more than any other genetic group.
In short, you are confusing my political views and my views on genetics, and you have little information on either.
"Anti-racists do not support Tibetan GeNOcide, through massive immigration and forced integration in Tibet, as practiced by Chinese Govt."
The words you're looking for is "Government-sponsored invasion and violent extermination of Tibetans by the Chinese Government"
That's a little different from a large group of politically unaffiliated individuals moving away from an oppressive region to a less-oppressive region.
@AlexanderDina I can't even fathom the kind of cognitive dissonance required to make such a blatant blunder of logic as to compare what is going on in Tibet to... I don't even know exactly what you're comparing it to, but from the things you say, I'm assuming you refer to either Muslim immigrants in Europe/Canada/The U.S. or something of a similar nature.
I suppose you can pat yourself on the back for finding an argument that is so poor I find it offensive for its content AND its irrationality
Would Demanding all black countries and only black countries, be flooded with millions of people that are not their race and telling everyone to mix in, until only black people disappear, be Hate?
Demanding that would obviously be genocidal hatred targeting black people, so why isn't it hatred when "anti-racists" Demand the same GeNOcide for white people?
@brywauhs You have assumed that I have certain views based on statements that did not imply I have those views. My current view is that you have invited me to jump through hoops of verbal chicanery. I am not exactly enthusiastic about this venture, but I have a few free moments so I'll bite.
I define hate as an emotion so strongly opposed to some concept/ideal/object/thing that it supersedes a person's ability to use logic or reason, causing them to favor a view that lacks either.
@brywauhs I think the key word here is "demanding". I am by no means demanding that any group of people, whether drawn by racial or cultural lines, be forced to subjugate themselves to any other. What I support is the freedom of individuals, and groups of individuals, to live where they choose. If, over a period of time, a genetic trait as trivial as skin color is lost to antiquity, be it lighter or darker, I could not care less, because pigmentation is not intrinsically valuable.
This is where I make some comment about "way to extrapolate my meaning far beyond what the content of my statement actually implied" but I think I just found a brick wall that logic could not possibly penetrate. I'm just at a loss...
I have been continually working on keeping my emotions under wraps when replying to comments and gotten pretty good at it, but this recent wave has truly tried my abilities. I am not sure if frustration or disgust is a more apt description of how I feel when talking to these individuals.
I have yet to find someone who calls me anti-white who can accurately explain my position. So far all of you are attributing motives I do not have to me.
I am not arguing that "the continued existence and self-determination for white people" is what is disgusting.
I don't know anything about Tibet.
What I find disgusting is the butchering of the misuse of the word and appeal to some fake genocide. As to making a white-only (or any race) country, I simply think that's a bad idea.
At the begging of your video you are wrong. Thomas Jefferson said all men are created equal in the eyes of god. Equal in the sense that all is equal ”in the eyes of God” Negros were not considered equal then.
Jefferson rips his stuff from John Locke. Both are arguing that we are equal in the eyes of God as well as equal in terms of inherent value (they derive inherent value from being created in the image of God/being the property of God). As I went on to explain the video, you don't have to agree on why humans are inherently valuable to understand or agree with his statement. More importantly, observing different traits among different groups doesn't contradict his statement.
@balanceseeker I get where you're coming from. When I saw the title I was not impressed. However I have to say I do agree with the content of the video.
Aha. Can you please prove that to me? Because i haven't seen a lot of christians pwning HeyRukas ridiculous views, nearly all of them have been atheists.
hmm, I think the atheists who resort to ridicule and insults just speak the loudest and most often. It may seem like all atheists behave this way because that particular group of atheists tend to be very vocal. Not everyone who falls into the category of atheists behaves that way tho.
Ok....at first I was determined this kid was another one of those pompous little christians who know everything and think they are superior...until I heard him say that one chick was trollin'.....I might not accept his reasons, but Ive got to give him props for the troll alert.....
@Epydemic2020 Damn dude, I finally watched her videos...My god she sucks...and I mean just terrible. SHe is hypocritical in half of her vids, and in the other half she's pompous....
I just wanted to point out that TheAmazingatheist's video seemed somwhat misrepresented, towards the end it doesen't really critisize that all are born equal, i.e. blacks and whites are born with equal value (albeit with different oppurtunities), but it instead dissmissed the idea of holding all people equal no matter what they do. That, you can't really call racist.
I give you that the start of his video was a bit messy tho.
@Epydemic: You have totally misinterpreted Jefferson’s reason for writing the Declaration of Independence. It was a WAR document directed toward the FRENCH with the hope of eliciting their alliance and support! Frances major political and intellectual leaders were heavily influenced by the ‘false’ ROUSSEAUIAN ideology of EQUALITY.
For a truer understanding of our founding WHITE AMERICAN fathers, read the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution: “Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” NOT equality.
Jefferson has a portrait of John Locke hanging in his house and the quote I gave from the declaration is almost identical to chapter 2 paragraph 6 of John Locke's "Second Treatise of Government".
@Epydemic: You parrot well but your cleverness is superficial and you certainly lack the depth to understand Rousseau’s influence on both Jefferson and the French.
Americans were WHITE men and woman who were fighting for their Rights, Liberty and their Posterity (white children). You have deliberately misconstrued early documents to justify the GENOCIDE of white people in their own country. Why are you so anti-white? Why do you want to see the elimination of white children?
"You have deliberately misconstrued early documents to justify the GENOCIDE of white people in their own country. Why are you so anti-white? Why do you want to see the elimination of white children?"
In that short comment you managed to ascribe to me motives which I don't have, strawman my position, and use the term "genocide" in a misleading way which devalues the term and quite frankly disgusts me.
"You have deliberately misconstrued early documents to justify the GENOCIDE of white people in their own country. Why are you so anti-white? Why do you want to see the elimination of white children?"
In that short comment you managed to ascribe to me motives which I don't have, strawman my position, and use the term "genocide" in a misleading way which devalues the term and quite frankly disgusts me.
How perverse to insinuate ‘the truth’ about your anti-white hate speech should be considered insulting and disgusting. International law defines genocide as ‘Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.’ Your own words and rebuttals though subtle and superficially intellectual acknowledge your GENOCIDAL intent against white people. It is also ironic that you use Jefferson, a slave owner, to justify equality LOL.
It's the atheists, who bombard HeyRuka with criticism of her ridiculous racist views, that is in my view enough to disprove any notion of racism in atheists. And i see here in your own video, that racists and homophobes are much more widespread in the comments of your video than those of "the atheists" (even HeyRuka, who has banned all ratings on her videos).
I am clearly not arguing that atheism means you should be racist. Some individual atheists like glorp896 with brilliant lines like "atheism SHOULD lead to racism" is the kind of mentality that I am opposing. You seem to be against it too, just don't be confused into thinking I am the one arguing atheism should lead to racism.
I didn't accuse you of making such an accusation. I was in support of your general view, that racism is not rampant in the atheist community. But i wasn't aware, that this really has to be said to christians, although i think, that disproving the old "hitler and the nazis were atheists" is a thing i wouldn't normally expect from a christian.
@Epydemic2020 in as much as atheism SHOULD be founded on logic, differentiation of words as to their value and quantifiable nature, racism also can operate on this level... its is a silly lie and fantasy that african blacks are anywhere near equal to japs, jews, etc... its not as big a lie as god, but they both claim the impossible, one is infinite and one is equal, two logical absurdities that match nothing in nature, only arbitrary axiomatic givens...
@MardasMan The atheists who bombarded HeyRuka with hateful comments and downright stupid arguments are THE racists. They act as if race doesn't exist and at the same time insist that we need countries with "diversity" as if something that, according to them, doesn't exist could make a difference. What I'm saying is race is a scientific fact that plays a large role in the world...so who are the racists, the ones trying to preserve ALL races or the ones trying to destroy them?
You are entirely attacking a strawman. Noone argued, that ethnicities don't exist, just, that "race" as a concept of genetic influence on an entire people is not proven by evidence. Ethnicities are defined rather by culture than by skin colour, so cultural diversity is always preferable, just look at the US as a melting pot. "Race" is a social construct trying to downgrade an entire people without any other reason than generalizing prejedice. There's no scientific basis for it at all.
I didn't even argue that far. All I argued was that Rueka didn't prove race caused "negative" traits even if those traits happened to be correlated with a group of individuals, and that even if she did prove a group had different traits it wouldn't establish a racial heirarchy.
u r a captain of ship escaping a very bad hurricane, you can take on 1000 people and save your ship, one ship has 1000 Haitians (72 IQ) and the other has 105 IQ japs, 1000 of them - who do you save?
knowing more, like the crime rates, AIDS rates, genetic disease rates, etc. when would u value any on
Thanks for calling these too on some bull here Epy. TAA for just being wrong about what Jefferson was saying, and whoever this other person is for having no conception of human rights. I don't think that we are created equal and by virtue of this have certain rights, since I don't believe in objective value. However, functionally I want to exist in a world which behaves as though this is true, and so will help defenders of fundamental human rights (as you are doing here) when the chance arises.
nanoduckling 6 days ago
Okay, so some atheists are racist, what does that have to do with atheism? They were not brought to their conclusion because of their atheism, so why do you feel the need to direct this video at atheists? It is ironically discriminatory to that demographic. Furthermore, you quote mined the Amazing Atheist, misrepresented his views, and argued a straw man.
turquoiseguy 1 week ago
@turquoiseguy
I think you are trying to force implications which were not being made. Feel free to attempt to clarify TAA if you think I didn't represent him accurately.
Epydemic2020 6 days ago
@Epydemic2020 TAA said in the video that he does think we should have equality of the law for pragmatic reasons. He was not attempting to argue against Jefferson's point, which dealt with equal civil rights under the law, ever, so arguing against him as if he was is a straw man. TAA's point was that we should not treat people as equals since we are not equals, not based on demographics, but based on individuals. He was not saying that we should be treated with different inherent values.
turquoiseguy 6 days ago
@turquoiseguy
When Jefferson talked about "all men being created equal" TAA critiqued that. TAA seemed to be misunderstanding Jefferson's meaning, as his critique did not disprove what Jefferson said/meant.
He explicitly quotes Jefferson and then calls his notion naive.
Epydemic2020 5 days ago
@Epydemic2020 You are taking his reference to the Constitution way too seriously. You actually think he was critiquing the notion of equal rights? No, he was critiquing the notion of equality among people overall, such to assert that we are all not equal. He said the notion that we are all equal is naive, which it is. Not the notion that we should all be treated equally under the law, he specifically affirmed that in his video.
turquoiseguy 5 days ago
I don't believe in atheists.
RagnarOdinsson 1 week ago
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My fat friend isn't arguing with Jefferson. He's arguing with this ridiculous notion of behavioral homogeneity in an ostensibly heterogenous populace. The greater point of the video was how we as a society need to stop being ridiculous wrist-flapping pussies. That girl that came next is exactly the kind of mouth-breather that's gonna end up toasting this space rock of ours.
Snakepliskinist 4 weeks ago
Anyone who argues for racial superiority / inferiority must start with an objective definition of the races they are discussing. At best this is highly a highly problematic exercise which ends up illuminating the irrationality of their original premise.
tdrake59 2 months ago
there's no proof for god
alexfurniss 2 months ago
@alexfurniss
I'm systemically discussing the evidence and reasons why I believe in God, you should join the discussion.
Epydemic2020 2 months ago
@alexfurniss
Can you prove that there is no proof for God? I have a funny feeling that you'll say, I don't have to prove it's up to the theist to prove it, which is pretty much either trolling or just a copout.
Btw, absolute negatives like the one you just claimed are mostly self-contradictory. If you can't prove it, then don't claim it.
BassP86 2 months ago
@BassP86 you also can't disprove a flying spaghetti monster or a flying giraffe that might get his hair cut once in a while
and also it's not a copout or trolling it's a rational response because it is up to the theist to prove it.
alexfurniss 2 months ago
@alexfurniss
You're not understanding what I'm saying. You say there is NO proof of God. That statement is an absolute negative. Absolute statements are statements that stated as if they are fact. This means that when you claim it, you do so with the assumption that you KNOW that such proof does not exist. Therefore in order to claim such, you must FIRST possess such knowledge. Do you REALLY know that proof for God is nonexistent? If not, then you cannot claim it.
BassP86 2 months ago
@BassP86 BUT HELLO, there is no proof for god and I can state that as a fact. Give me me one piece of evidence that proves his existence...exactly there's not so there's no proof and that in my eyes can be stated as fact. Good sir, have you heard of the big bang?
alexfurniss 2 months ago
@alexfurniss
Are you saying the Big Bang disproves God?
"Give me me one piece of evidence that proves his existence" - Let's say I were to sit down with you and answer EVERY question of yours to YOUR complete satisfaction. If that were to happen and you were given evidence that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to YOUR complete satisfaction that God existed, would accept His existence as a true? Furthermore, if you accepted His existence as true, would you choose to follow Him?
BassP86 2 months ago
@BassP8
because the big bang states it started in one specific point full of energy, then it exploded and formed all the matter today, it's not a complete guess because there is evidence to support it for example: redshift, redshift is when the wavelength is long (microwave) and it indicates things are moving away from us because it's red shifted. This means the universe is expanding because it's red shifted this then means if you reverse it, it goes to one point. Also CMBR is the heat left over
alexfurniss 2 months ago
@alexfurniss
I'm very familiar with the Big Bang, bro. I'm a science major. How does the Big Bang show that there is no proof for God?
BassP86 1 month ago
@BassP86 because in Christianity, it states that he made the earth and then made light or whatever order it is but the most logical answer is that the big bang started the universe and the bible doesn't mention anything about god creating the big bang it states other ways which are idiotic. I know you might not be a member of a particular religion but I'm saying that the big bang disproves Christianity, Islam and all those gods
alexfurniss 1 month ago
@alexfurniss
You do know the Bible makes no such claims explicitly, nor does the Koran, right? Some ancient Jewish traditions translate the book of Genesis to mean "day-age", not days by means of 24 hours. Secondly, the Bible is not designed to tell HOW God made the universe. The point is is that He MADE it.
To say the Big Bang disproves "all those gods" is VERY vague. How do you KNOW it disproves EVERY deity?
BassP86 1 month ago
@BassP86 god said 'let there be light' but it was the big bang creating light energy from the point and the people that wrote the bible would have no idea it's just made up stuff.
I'm not familiar a whole lot with the Qur'an.
I would obviously accept his existence because there's proof and I wouldn't follow him because the bible shows signs of: homophobia, it has contradictions, misogynistic, it creates sexual misery.
alexfurniss 1 month ago
@alexfurniss The bible also says the earth was made before the stars. The creation account of the bible is not accurate. Fact.
BigLundi 2 weeks ago
@alexfurniss
(cont.)
Btw, you still haven't answer my question: If (hypothetically speaking) you were shown all the evidences that gave you 100% satisfaction that God DOES exist, would you accept His existence? Secondly, if you accepted His existence, would you choose to follow Him?
BassP86 1 month ago
@alexfurniss
(cont.)
In other words, even though you are not actually saying that you can prove it or that you have to prove it, that statement is inherently dependent on proof in order to be claimed regardless. Therefore you cannot say "there is no proof for God" because you don't have the knowledge necessary to make that claim.
The claim you CAN make however, is that you "have not SEEN any arguments that convince you that God exists", because there's no contradiction there.
BassP86 2 months ago
@BassP86 good sir, have you heard of the big bang? and like I said there is no proof for god and that is a fact because there's been no proof for years and there won't be mate sorry.
alexfurniss 2 months ago
@3ood5tock1969 why?
CloverfieldMonster95 2 months ago
Well said, sir! You made some valid points.
PogieJoe 2 months ago
@PogieJoe
Thanks
Epydemic2020 2 months ago
Theists not to emulate: THOMAS JEFFERSON
3ood5tock1969 2 months ago
I love that the opening quote was from a secular non-christian (reported pantheist, suspected Atheist).
-HeyRuka is a RACIST hiding behind Atheism and BS pseudo-science just like some bigots (KKK/WBC) hide behind God; using her as an example is like using the WBC as an example for ALL christians. Every group has bad apples and you know that, I'm honestly disappointed you'd swing so low.
orionmetzger 2 months ago
Thanks for the vid, epydemic. Most of the time a racist person would be shouted down with ad hominem attacks but I'm glad to see you refuted that chick's position logically. I like how you posited that IQ has nothing to do with the worth of an individual--a point Peter Singer has used to defend the equality of animals. I hope you do a video on the moral status of animals in the future, and explain why you think they matter less than we do without appealing to differences in intelligence.
biznor3 3 months ago
Nice strawman attack on atheism dude.
Maybe you could also do a video on almost 2000 years of Christian antisemitism that eventually lead to the holocaust.
killer4hire 3 months ago
@killer4hire
This is not an attack on atheism at all. This is an attack on "two particular atheists which we should not emulate because they have improper thinking". I made it clear within the video that even given atheistic assumptions these individual's conclusion was not warranted.
Epydemic2020 3 months ago 4
@killer4hire
Poor excuse.
You where obviously not obligated to put atheism in the title but you did so anyway for propaganda reasons.
That was the whole reason you uploaded this video. If you would not have known their religious background you would not have created the video.
killer4hire 3 months ago
@killer4hire
People will complain about anything.
Epydemic2020 3 months ago 3
@Epydemic2020 well please explain how putting "Atheists not to emulate" is different than "whites not to emulate", their Atheism is unrelated to the topic.
orionmetzger 2 months ago
@Epydemic2020 What if I put a video that was, Slavery, genocide, christains? Then pulled a few youtube scources that defended these causes, they happen to be christians. Would you say that would be a fair tittle for a vidoe?
Kevashida 2 months ago
@killer4hire To you people Anything that goes against your worldview. Is a strawman. Because you cant take a difference to your close minded world view. Yes i get you think every religious person is evil and deserves harsh punishment for being different form your boring worldview. You love nature so much you hug a tree every day. You love logic and reason so much you want to marry it and keep it close to you. I call it boring. Because last time i check. People where not robots.
Tuber77 3 months ago
@Tuber77
Oh, I don't just hug the trees.
I look for a hole in them and then fuck them.
killer4hire 3 months ago
Equlity is found within ourselves. Plain and simple.
JustBeClever 3 months ago
I can't even listen to the 'amazing' atheist. UGH!
CMrace 5 months ago
“Immigration is not based upon race.”
How do you argue with this type of stupidity?
“If more black people are around, more white people will choose to have children with them.”
Where do you come up with this stuff?
What if I said there was this RACE problem and it would be solved if millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And that is GENOCIDE.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
"…Good argument stand despite the character…” I knew you were a Psychopath and I was correct to state it earlier. With your twisted logic and contorted wordish approach you could justify Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin. Why you could justify anything. But spinning facts does not change reality. Your comments are nothing but justifications for White Genocide.
"Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found out."
wolfram54321 5 months ago
I like your reasoning, short and to the point. Easy even for me to grasp ;)
VogonJ 5 months ago
@VogonJ
I'm glad you liked it :)
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@panzer1063
This is not invovled with school in any way. I didn't say anything about how bad whites are because I don't think whites a bad. I think individuals who are white can be good or bad, just like any other race. Individuals can be intelligent or, as your comment seems to accidentally show, individual's can be pretty stupid.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
good genetical traits can pass on large scale,on an ethnic scale.
hilletehnoob 5 months ago
higher IQ people = better society.
IQ= largely genetical,a son of 2 smart people and of a family with inteligent and sucessfull people usually comes up intelligent,FACT.
So,why can't good genetical traits like high IQ pass on large scale?
It's ridiculous,it's ideological to deny it,equalitarianism and multiculturalism are like a religion,you follow it blindly and deny scientific evidences,just like in the inquisition with galileo,the poor man couldn't say the earth wasn't flat.
hilletehnoob 5 months ago
@hilletehnoob
I didn't argue it was impossible for genetic traits to pass on a large scale.
I argued that we have no reason to think that race is the determiner of your IQ, I argued that even if these traits were caused by different races that wouldn't establish a racial hierarchy, and I argued that Ruka had a poorly thought out political ideas.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 what about all the IQ studies considering the variations?it wouldn't establish a racial hierarchy but i see no benefit on europe and USA being invaded by lower IQ people that generally make a society much worse.
hilletehnoob 5 months ago
Some use science to justify white genocide, others use spurious-logic. Still others say its racist not to assimilate and intermarry with non-whites. But whatever tactic or strategy is used, the end result ANTI-WHITES seek is the same. Elimination of the white race and its culture. You are nothing new to the list of psychopaths that contrive to commit genocide against whites, and you certainly are not the cleverest. Your pseudo intellectual veneer does not deceive anyone of your nauseous intent.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
You have drastically misused the terms genocide and psychopath, as well as ascribed to me motives I do not have.
I am white, why would I seek to eliminate the white race? That notion is really dumb.
On a different note, I don't support separate societies for different races because I think it is a bad idea. Plain and simple. More borders -> more wars and more us vs them mentality. I'd rather anybody be able to live anywhere and marry whoever they choose.
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Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
continued
If you want to live in an area that has mostly white people (I have no idea why that seems to be so important to you but whatever) then go ahead. If you want to marry white people and associate with white people, go ahead. Establishing a border that prevented non-white people from living there would become a racist haven (because not all white people would have innocent motives for escaping contact w/ other races).
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Epydemic2020 5 months ago
Epydemic believes the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
He says, “borders that prevented non-white people from living there would become a RACIST haven.”
This type of tripe is said only about WHITE countries. But when anyone tells the obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against the white race they are called RACIST. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
"Epydemic believes the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."
How about I make my own argument instead of you trying to make them up for me.
I don't particularly care about immigration laws they are complex and have little to nothing to do with race, but I think dividing america up into "black only" or "white only" groups is a terrible idea. I am not anti-white, i am just anti-stupid policies.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
I see you have CENSORED anyone who disagrees with your genocidal opinions. Over ten responses dismantling your anti-white rhetoric have been spammed.
Whites who sanction genocidal laws and behaviors that affect our white children and people are TRAITORS, plain and simple. But the calculated ‘genocide’ against our people can be turned. Avoid, the ensnaring complexities of anti-white subterfuge, and stick to the fundamentals: They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
I have not marked anything as spam, and everytime I see something marked as spam which Is not I unspam it. If i wanted to censor anyone, as the author of this channel I can remove a comment completely rather than just mark it as spam, or I could even block individuals entirely. Even though I find your position to be incredibly ignorant, I choose to do neither. Letting you speak openly and freely does nothing except expose how ignorant your position is, so by all means keep talking
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
I have not marked anything as spam, and everytime I see something marked as spam which Is not I unspam it. If i wanted to censor anyone, as the author of this channel I can remove a comment completely rather than just mark it as spam, or I could even block individuals entirely. Even though I find your position to be incredibly ignorant, I choose to do neither. Letting you speak openly and freely does nothing except expose how ignorant your position is, so by all means keep talking
Epydemic2020 5 months ago 10
The immigration Act of 1965 sponsored by Cellers and supported by Kennedy has dramatically changed the demographics of this country. The USA was close to 90% white from the late 1890’s to the 1970’s. Whites will be a minority in their own county by 2042. That’s less than 80 years after the Act became law. You are either naïve or very devious to state that immigration is not race based. But then again it has not gone unnoticed that you use Jefferson, (a slave owner) to justify equality. LOL
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
I didn't appeal to Jeffersons actions, but to his philosophy. Good argument stand despite the character of the individuals who first propose the arguments.
Immigration is not based upon race. Changing demographics are a side effect. If more black people are around, more white people will choose to have children with them. It is not accurate to call a white person choosing to marry a different race as "genocide".
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@wolfram54321: "But then again it has not gone unnoticed that you use Jefferson, (a slave owner) to justify equality."
Funny how Jefferson was born into a slave-owning family yet wanted to see the institution scaled down and eliminated..........who knows? IMHO, If the Revolution had failed, slavery might have been around for much, much, longer.
MiracleMile90 3 months ago
@wolfram54321 "in their own country"!! if a country can "belong" to anyone it's the Native American's country, not Europeans (which is what white people are). holy shit you're backwards.
orionmetzger 2 months ago
I knew you were a Psychopath and was correct to state it earlier. With your twisted logic and contorted wordish approach you could justify Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin. And you certainly don’t let facts get in the way of you agenda. But spinning facts does not change reality. Your twaddle is nothing but justification for White Genocide.
Lying is like breathing to the psychopath. When caught in a lie and challenged, they make up new lies, and don't care if they're found out.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321 he's talking about HIS country specifically. not ignoring others.
orionmetzger 2 months ago
@wolfram54321
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Just because I don't see any legal, moral, or even practical need/grounds for establishing areas where only one race is allowed and giving establishing borders does not mean I am against white people or white culture.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
So you are anti-white. You people only make these excuses when it concernes WHite GeNOcide.
Yeah everyone is "free" except for White people to refuse their genocide.
Make the same argument about the Tibetan people, anti-white.
Tell me why Tibetans are racist aholes, for resiting their genocide, through massive immigration and forced integration. :)
Oh right they aren't "racist", because they are not White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
I am so ashamed of humanity, I cant believe that is the top comment
pochopaz7381 5 months ago
@pochopaz7381
I feel the same way. Sometimes comments are so dumb that it ceases to be worth replying, and yet some people apparently find that to be insightful.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
Comments pointing out that White GeNOcide is occurring are dumb?
Since when did GeNOcide become "Dumb"?
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina
That is not genocide. That fact that you even try to use the word "genocide" devalues the term. It makes a mockery of every real genocide that has ever occurred to even try to put those two things in the same category.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
Genocide is the elimination of an identifiable national group.
Violence is not specified under UN GeNOcide Law.
Tell me anti-white, do you know anything at all?
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina
No one is getting eliminated. You have the freedom to marry whoever you want and have as many kids as you want with whoever you want. Nobody is killing off white people. Nobody is getting eliminated. What in the world are you crying about?
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
Why do anti-whites always talk about freedom when you know it does not apply to us?
What am I crying about? So what are Tibetans crying about Anti-White? :)
Its just massive immigration and forced integration. So its not a "real" genocide is it?
Oh wait. They are not White.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
Now stop dodging the question Anti-White.
Do white people have a right to a continued existence and self-determination?
Yes or No.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
Anti-whites are always spouting about how massive immigration and assimilation demanded of ALL white countries and ONLY white countries is just Freedom.
As Bill O'Reilly said, "There should be no all-white ANYTHING in America."
For all their "diversity" talk, all-white areas are forbidden because people will MOVE there. If we had freedom of choice, integration would be doomed.
That is the justification for our entire set of laws, the ones Bill O'Reilly is all for and states so clearly.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
Like all anti-whites, you only think GeNOcide is a "mockery" when white people are the target.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina
I would be just as upset if you were a black person arguing about some farcical black genocide taking place in america and I think it is just as stupid to demand a country of all black people with borders to prevent other races from entering.
If white people were actually being killed, then I would be very opposed to that genocide. You however, are hijacking and misusing the term. It is nothing more than sensationalist rhetoric like all of your pre-canned propaganda phrases.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
Yet you flat out REFUSE to answer 1 question. Tells us all we need to know about your real intentions.
Do white people have a right to a continued existence and self-determination?
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
We are using the Legally correct term as enforceable by International Law, Anti-White.
Genocide is the elimination of an identifiable national group.
Violence is not specified under UN GeNOcide Law.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina
You said that exact thing earlier, and I already responded. White people are not being eliminated. You are free to mary a white person or procreate with as many white people as you want. Nobody is preventing your ability to make lil white babies and nobody is eliminating those children.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
Anti-whites like to say Diversity is “freedom” for non-whites to enter white living space and “mix in” with whomever they wish.
However ONLY White people are not allowed to refuse this "freedom", so it is your diversity we are FORCED to accept.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
All non-white countries can refuse this immigration if they want and they do!
No "anti-racists" attack them in any effective manner.
Yet if any white country wants to even discuss this issue, out come the anti-white genocide pushers, accusing them of being naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews.
Japan is 98.5% Japanese. They refuse massive immigration and forced integration. They send illegals home as a matter of routine. No one calling them nazis. No one cares.
Why? They are not white.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
Do white people have the right to exist and self determination?
Flat out REFUSING to answer, means you say NO! White people do not have those rights.
Anti-white is an entirely accurate name for you.
You deserve nothing but our scorn. You are guilty of GeNOcide.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina
You have the right to exist. You have the right to live wherever you want in america. Every other American share's these rights as well.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
You are so provincial. As we have pointed out, this is a Global Issue.
All White countries and ONLY White countries are targets. Only White children are affected. Only Anti-WHites like you are pushing it.
It is GeNOcide.
And you refuse to answer my question.
Do white people have the right continue to exist and self determination?
If I asked that question about Tibetans, you would answer yes, immediately.
Why? They are not White.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago 2
@AlexanderDina
Does your confirmation bias prevent you from seeing when I answer your questions? Scroll up, I answered your question directly. However, I am only commenting about American policy. You have the right to exist. You have the right to live wherever you want. Everyone else has these rights as well. Do you believe white genocide is occurring in america or not?
I have no idea about tibet's policies or laws.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
"You have the right to exist."
Not according to your anti-white PC state Religion we don`t.
Mass immigration and "assimilation" for all white countries and ONLY white countries.
The continued existence of white children is supposedly "irrelevant" and their existence as a group should not be defended from policies that will lead to their extinction as a group!
You can`t wash your hands of the responsibility for the anti-white policies you support.
Anti-white/pro-white.
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago
@dungeoncrawler55
Do you have the ability to procreate with whoever you choose and will the children you choose make be eliminated?
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
No,I ONLY have the ability to pro-create with those people who are in my white countries(with my people),and guess what,you anti-whites are flooding all those white countries with racial aliens and demanding we accept "assimilation" as a valid societal condition.Thereby you anti-whites are continually reducing the numbers of potential white females in my white countries.
It is deliberate policy of white genocide you call it "Celebrating Diversity".
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 "Do you have the ability to procreate with whoever you choose and will the children you choose make be eliminated?
Epydemic2020 40 minutes ago"
You are trying to justify Genocide.
Or perhaps you're just extremley dumb.
Stradivari1715 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 Does your confirmation bias prevent you from seeing when I answer your questions? Scroll up, I answered your question directly. However, I am only commenting about American policy. You have the right to exist. You have the right to live wherever you want. Everyone else has these rights as well. Do you believe white genocide is occurring in america or not?
I have no idea about tibet's policies or laws.
Epydemic2020 52 minutes ago
Are you playing or are you really that dumb?
Stradivari1715 5 months ago
One way massive immigration into all white countries and only white countries, followed by forced integration.
No vote or discussion has ever been allowed in any white country.
There is only one outcome from that.
Your future plans for humanity do not include White people.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
Massive Immigration and forced Integration without a vote allowed.
Anywhere but a White country, "anti-racists" and the UN call it GeNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
And I noticed you did not answer my question, you slippery little devil.
Do white people have a right to a continued existence and self-determination?
Refusing to answer that question, means you say no on both counts.
So you are guilty of supporting White GeNOcide.
Case closed.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@charlierebel83852 I never said I hate white people.
Also, I never said that I was or wasn't white myself.
For all you know I'm actually a penguin with robot hands that can use a computer and am secretly the head of a CIA-funded government operation to wipe out a very small group of Black Canadians, but only the ones that have converted to Judaism, and only the ones that currently live in Indonesia, and only the ones that drive a Toyota Prius. You don't know anything about me or my views.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann
If you support mass immigration and "assimilation" for all white countries and ONLY white countries you are an anti-white.
If you say the continued existence of white children is "irrelevant" and should not be defended from policies that will lead to their extinction as a group you are an anti-white.
If you insist white people are not allowed to have their own countries and self determination like non-whites in non-white countries you are an anti-white.
Are you anti-white?
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago
@dungeoncrawler55
1. I do not support mass assimilation any more or less than I support isolationism. I support the freedom of an individual to move to a country or location within a country where it is legal and ethical for them to do so. How we go about deciding what is "legal and ethical" is by no means a simple matter, so I can not give you a simple answer as to what that means.
2. The continued existence of EVERYTHING is irrelevant.
3. I insist no such thing.
4. Am I anti-white?
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago 2
@PhilStrohmann
Yes, of course you are an anti-white. You support the continued existence of every race except the White race. You cannot say it is a complicated matter whether White children are allowed a homeland of their own or not. Either White children are allowed the homelands their ancestors built for them or you are anti-White. And here you state, you oppose “Isolationism” meaning you demand non-white immigration for every White country. Anti-Racism is a codeword for anti-White.
GobiWanu 5 months ago
@GobiWanu "White" is not a "Race", it is a level of skin pigmentation that fits within a range of skin pigmentation. I could not care less about skin pigmentation. It is a completely trivial genetic variation within society. Its only importance is if it is an amount that helps or harms the individual's ability to protect themselves from, or utilize the rays of the sun.
If we all end up a brown-gray, or a variety of bright colors in 10,000 years, I will not shed a tear either way
Do. Not. Care.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann
Well said.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann If white is not a race then why do you idiots never say that black is not a race? Why aren't you posting on all the black videos telling the black supremacists that they don't exist? Because they would call you a racist?
DollaBiIIz 5 months ago
@DollaBiIIz Black isn't a race. Black is a human concept referring to a population who share a certain set of genetic and/or morphological traits. If race can be equated to genes or morphology, then depending on where you draw the line you can go from 1 human race, to 7 billion races, each one representing a certain individual and their characteristic traits.
I no more support "black supremacy" than I support "white supremacy". I find both concepts to be logically incoherent.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann Go to the ghetto and tell that to the first group of black people you see. You will get your racist ass kicked.
DollaBiIIz 5 months ago
@DollaBiIIz First off, I am not a racist.
Second, I think it could be argued that it is racist to state that I should go to the ghetto to find a group of black people, and it could also be argued that it is racist to automatically assume black people would use violence against me for stating my views on genetics.
Just a moment ago I was being called "anti racist" for stating this exact thing, and now I am being called a "racist". I think there is some disagreement on what "race" means.
PhilStrohmann 4 months ago
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@PhilStrohmann In common usage, "racist" means you hate black people. "Anti-racist" means you hate white people. So you are both.
DollaBiIIz 4 months ago
"why do you support genocide"
"why do you hate white people"
"anti-racist is codeword for antiwhite"
Think for yourself people. I am tired of hearing the same dribble repeated as if they are arguments. If you want to argue for racism, give me something that isn't prepackaged propaganda.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@RabbitSpin "Anti-racism is a codeword for anti-White."
"Pro-white" is a codeword for fucking retard.
niriop 5 months ago
@RabbitSpin, he has been watching too much TV and listening to Mommy Professor. The has caused him to lose his grip on reality.
Veritatis61 5 months ago
@charlierebel83852
lol, I am not Jewish. This further goes to show that phenotypes are not a good way to establish different races.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
"lol, do you think I support either of those two people? "
Your anti-white Political Correctness State Religion supports those characters,and many more genocidal anti-whites just like them hiding behind "anti-racism".
It`s a scam,and it`s over anti-white: Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago 2
@Epydemic2020
"ascribe to me motives which I don't have, strawman my position"
As a so-called "anti-racist",you support the imposition of mass immigration and "assimilation" on all white countries and ONLY white countries.
Are white people allowed to have their own countries and have self determination like non-whites in non-white countries?
I`m really sure you don`t "wonder" why we say Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago 2
Jose Angel Gutierrez,"Civil rights leader": “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the
worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him.”
Kamau Kambon,"Africana Studies teacher":"We need to exterminate white people off the face of the planet"
They say they are anti-racist,but they want white genocide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago 2
@dungeoncrawler55
lol, do you think I support either of those two people? Those quotes are racist... I am against their position just like I am against HeyRuka's.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
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wolfram54321 5 months ago
Hey,let`s flood all black countries and ONLY black countries with millions of non-blacks and order the blacks to "assimilate" with those non-blacks.Resistors can be demonized as "evil racists" and suffer loss of livelihood and/or imprisonment.
Who could ever accuse us of advocating black genocide,after all,it`s all about the "equality" don`t ya know?
Because Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
dungeoncrawler55 5 months ago
Wow... I am always floored when I hear someone try to justify racism. It's just... It seriously tests my ability to remain objective in the discussion.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann
Racism? Define racism, anti-white.
What IS the difference between what Anti-racists say about white people and what Hitler said about the Jews?
Anti-racists say/Hitler said,
The Jews or Whites are especially evil.
Anti-racists say/Hitler said,
Whites or the Jews are purely exploiters of others.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago 3
@AlexanderDina The way you have described my views is inaccurate, I am sorry to say. I am not "Anti-White" any more than I am "Pro-Jew" (or "Anti-Jew" for that matter)
I have opinions about the political state and culture of Israel, but I do not believe that Jews are somehow "Genetically predisposed to be this way or that way", at least not any more than any other genetic group.
In short, you are confusing my political views and my views on genetics, and you have little information on either.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
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AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina I received this in my inbox from you:
"Anti-racists do not support Tibetan GeNOcide, through massive immigration and forced integration in Tibet, as practiced by Chinese Govt."
The words you're looking for is "Government-sponsored invasion and violent extermination of Tibetans by the Chinese Government"
That's a little different from a large group of politically unaffiliated individuals moving away from an oppressive region to a less-oppressive region.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago 2
@AlexanderDina I can't even fathom the kind of cognitive dissonance required to make such a blatant blunder of logic as to compare what is going on in Tibet to... I don't even know exactly what you're comparing it to, but from the things you say, I'm assuming you refer to either Muslim immigrants in Europe/Canada/The U.S. or something of a similar nature.
I suppose you can pat yourself on the back for finding an argument that is so poor I find it offensive for its content AND its irrationality
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago 6
@PhilStrohmann
Define "Hate".
Would Demanding all black countries and only black countries, be flooded with millions of people that are not their race and telling everyone to mix in, until only black people disappear, be Hate?
Demanding that would obviously be genocidal hatred targeting black people, so why isn't it hatred when "anti-racists" Demand the same GeNOcide for white people?
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
brywauhs 5 months ago
@brywauhs You have assumed that I have certain views based on statements that did not imply I have those views. My current view is that you have invited me to jump through hoops of verbal chicanery. I am not exactly enthusiastic about this venture, but I have a few free moments so I'll bite.
I define hate as an emotion so strongly opposed to some concept/ideal/object/thing that it supersedes a person's ability to use logic or reason, causing them to favor a view that lacks either.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@brywauhs I think the key word here is "demanding". I am by no means demanding that any group of people, whether drawn by racial or cultural lines, be forced to subjugate themselves to any other. What I support is the freedom of individuals, and groups of individuals, to live where they choose. If, over a period of time, a genetic trait as trivial as skin color is lost to antiquity, be it lighter or darker, I could not care less, because pigmentation is not intrinsically valuable.
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann
Wow dude, two sheeple used the same mantra on you.
"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."
And you didn't even use the word "anti-racist".
Congratulations :)
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 Make that 3 now!
This is where I make some comment about "way to extrapolate my meaning far beyond what the content of my statement actually implied" but I think I just found a brick wall that logic could not possibly penetrate. I'm just at a loss...
PhilStrohmann 5 months ago
@PhilStrohmann
I have been continually working on keeping my emotions under wraps when replying to comments and gotten pretty good at it, but this recent wave has truly tried my abilities. I am not sure if frustration or disgust is a more apt description of how I feel when talking to these individuals.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
What is so "disgusting" about continued existence and self determination for white people?
Are Tibetans equally "disgusting" when they Demand the same, or is it only White people you find "disgusting"?
Well come on anti-white! Answer the question!
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
@AlexanderDina
I have yet to find someone who calls me anti-white who can accurately explain my position. So far all of you are attributing motives I do not have to me.
I am not arguing that "the continued existence and self-determination for white people" is what is disgusting.
I don't know anything about Tibet.
What I find disgusting is the butchering of the misuse of the word and appeal to some fake genocide. As to making a white-only (or any race) country, I simply think that's a bad idea.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020
Answer the question then. Do white people have a right to a continued existence and self-determination?
Avoiding that particular question, is an answer anyone can understand.
AlexanderDina 5 months ago
ive seen alot of responses to this ditz.... this is by far the best. better then ZOMGits, better the Peach. and this from an Atheist.
reduced.... to the point.... simple.... short.
good job.
MpowerdAPE 5 months ago
@MpowerdAPE
Thanks. That is a pretty good compliment because I think their videos were well made.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
Why must Hey Ruka represent us?
pochopaz7381 6 months ago
@pochopaz7381
Who says she does?
Epydemic2020 6 months ago
At the begging of your video you are wrong. Thomas Jefferson said all men are created equal in the eyes of god. Equal in the sense that all is equal ”in the eyes of God” Negros were not considered equal then.
password31 6 months ago
@password31
Jefferson rips his stuff from John Locke. Both are arguing that we are equal in the eyes of God as well as equal in terms of inherent value (they derive inherent value from being created in the image of God/being the property of God). As I went on to explain the video, you don't have to agree on why humans are inherently valuable to understand or agree with his statement. More importantly, observing different traits among different groups doesn't contradict his statement.
Epydemic2020 6 months ago
@balanceseeker I get where you're coming from. When I saw the title I was not impressed. However I have to say I do agree with the content of the video.
DeeDemonwitch 6 months ago
@MessianicLight
Aha. Can you please prove that to me? Because i haven't seen a lot of christians pwning HeyRukas ridiculous views, nearly all of them have been atheists.
MardasMan 6 months ago
@MessianicLight
hmm, I think the atheists who resort to ridicule and insults just speak the loudest and most often. It may seem like all atheists behave this way because that particular group of atheists tend to be very vocal. Not everyone who falls into the category of atheists behaves that way tho.
Epydemic2020 6 months ago
Ok....at first I was determined this kid was another one of those pompous little christians who know everything and think they are superior...until I heard him say that one chick was trollin'.....I might not accept his reasons, but Ive got to give him props for the troll alert.....
NoRealReality 6 months ago
@NoRealReality
lol, thanks.
Epydemic2020 6 months ago
@Epydemic2020 Damn dude, I finally watched her videos...My god she sucks...and I mean just terrible. SHe is hypocritical in half of her vids, and in the other half she's pompous....
NoRealReality 6 months ago
@Epydemic2020 Thanks for the nice video.
I just wanted to point out that TheAmazingatheist's video seemed somwhat misrepresented, towards the end it doesen't really critisize that all are born equal, i.e. blacks and whites are born with equal value (albeit with different oppurtunities), but it instead dissmissed the idea of holding all people equal no matter what they do. That, you can't really call racist.
I give you that the start of his video was a bit messy tho.
Wud luv a rspnse wit ur thgt
TheHabate 6 months ago
@Epydemic: You have totally misinterpreted Jefferson’s reason for writing the Declaration of Independence. It was a WAR document directed toward the FRENCH with the hope of eliciting their alliance and support! Frances major political and intellectual leaders were heavily influenced by the ‘false’ ROUSSEAUIAN ideology of EQUALITY.
For a truer understanding of our founding WHITE AMERICAN fathers, read the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution: “Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” NOT equality.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
Jefferson has a portrait of John Locke hanging in his house and the quote I gave from the declaration is almost identical to chapter 2 paragraph 6 of John Locke's "Second Treatise of Government".
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic: You parrot well but your cleverness is superficial and you certainly lack the depth to understand Rousseau’s influence on both Jefferson and the French.
Americans were WHITE men and woman who were fighting for their Rights, Liberty and their Posterity (white children). You have deliberately misconstrued early documents to justify the GENOCIDE of white people in their own country. Why are you so anti-white? Why do you want to see the elimination of white children?
wolfram54321 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
"You have deliberately misconstrued early documents to justify the GENOCIDE of white people in their own country. Why are you so anti-white? Why do you want to see the elimination of white children?"
In that short comment you managed to ascribe to me motives which I don't have, strawman my position, and use the term "genocide" in a misleading way which devalues the term and quite frankly disgusts me.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@wolfram54321
"You have deliberately misconstrued early documents to justify the GENOCIDE of white people in their own country. Why are you so anti-white? Why do you want to see the elimination of white children?"
In that short comment you managed to ascribe to me motives which I don't have, strawman my position, and use the term "genocide" in a misleading way which devalues the term and quite frankly disgusts me.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
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wolfram54321 5 months ago
How perverse to insinuate ‘the truth’ about your anti-white hate speech should be considered insulting and disgusting. International law defines genocide as ‘Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.’ Your own words and rebuttals though subtle and superficially intellectual acknowledge your GENOCIDAL intent against white people. It is also ironic that you use Jefferson, a slave owner, to justify equality LOL.
wolfram54321 5 months ago
It's the atheists, who bombard HeyRuka with criticism of her ridiculous racist views, that is in my view enough to disprove any notion of racism in atheists. And i see here in your own video, that racists and homophobes are much more widespread in the comments of your video than those of "the atheists" (even HeyRuka, who has banned all ratings on her videos).
MardasMan 6 months ago
@MardasMan
I am clearly not arguing that atheism means you should be racist. Some individual atheists like glorp896 with brilliant lines like "atheism SHOULD lead to racism" is the kind of mentality that I am opposing. You seem to be against it too, just don't be confused into thinking I am the one arguing atheism should lead to racism.
Epydemic2020 6 months ago
@Epydemic2020
I didn't accuse you of making such an accusation. I was in support of your general view, that racism is not rampant in the atheist community. But i wasn't aware, that this really has to be said to christians, although i think, that disproving the old "hitler and the nazis were atheists" is a thing i wouldn't normally expect from a christian.
MardasMan 6 months ago
@Epydemic2020 in as much as atheism SHOULD be founded on logic, differentiation of words as to their value and quantifiable nature, racism also can operate on this level... its is a silly lie and fantasy that african blacks are anywhere near equal to japs, jews, etc... its not as big a lie as god, but they both claim the impossible, one is infinite and one is equal, two logical absurdities that match nothing in nature, only arbitrary axiomatic givens...
glorp896 6 months ago
@MardasMan The atheists who bombarded HeyRuka with hateful comments and downright stupid arguments are THE racists. They act as if race doesn't exist and at the same time insist that we need countries with "diversity" as if something that, according to them, doesn't exist could make a difference. What I'm saying is race is a scientific fact that plays a large role in the world...so who are the racists, the ones trying to preserve ALL races or the ones trying to destroy them?
UcanbeGOD 6 months ago
@UcanbeGOD
You are entirely attacking a strawman. Noone argued, that ethnicities don't exist, just, that "race" as a concept of genetic influence on an entire people is not proven by evidence. Ethnicities are defined rather by culture than by skin colour, so cultural diversity is always preferable, just look at the US as a melting pot. "Race" is a social construct trying to downgrade an entire people without any other reason than generalizing prejedice. There's no scientific basis for it at all.
MardasMan 6 months ago
@MardasMan
I didn't even argue that far. All I argued was that Rueka didn't prove race caused "negative" traits even if those traits happened to be correlated with a group of individuals, and that even if she did prove a group had different traits it wouldn't establish a racial heirarchy.
Epydemic2020 6 months ago
@MardasMan No strawman, your comment is exactly what I was referring too.
UcanbeGOD 6 months ago
@UcanbeGOD
Do you even know, what a strawman fallacy is? Go get read some wikipedia articles about it, then you will understand, what i mean. Bye
MardasMan 6 months ago
he looks dead.
ugasziz 6 months ago
lets see if u r a racist:
u r a captain of ship escaping a very bad hurricane, you can take on 1000 people and save your ship, one ship has 1000 Haitians (72 IQ) and the other has 105 IQ japs, 1000 of them - who do you save?
knowing more, like the crime rates, AIDS rates, genetic disease rates, etc. when would u value any on