The ego is the distorted soul. The ego is the worship of the spirit of power and neglect of the spirit of highest intelligence -- these both spirits within a set of spirits, but power in the middle and hi at the edge. You can draw the cross-section of the soul as the sine of angles 9.18.27...90 give the radii. If you want Join myspace and see highestprecision if your seeking the truth. This video is nuts.
@inertialcapacity ah, I see, well, you don't seem to realize there are other meanings of the word "ego", technical meanings. This is about the seat of the will.
If you are eliminativist about will and consciousness, I don't consider that enlightened, no offense. Feel free to make a reply and I will take the reply seriously and try to address/explain whatever the factual point you are making is.
@OdeToNecrophilia how so and why do you think that? I'm not as invested in it as you may think, but I also don't think likely. It's a useful metaphor, not nec a "correct" one.
@OdeToNecrophilia : I do not thin I've polluted anyones mind, I think it's a good metaphor for mental space and is usefull. Could you tell me what you think is pollution and what metaphor you have that's more accurate in some way?
2.Ego: egotism; conceit; self-importance: Her ego becomes more unbearable each day
This is the most pertinent definition of ego. In this definition, it seems realistic that one can transcend conceit and egotism. One might suggest that if your motivation to transcend the ego is to increase your own happiness, you are egoistic. Certainly, from this approach, transcending egoism is paradoxical. However, if one realizes the interdependence of all things, it is impossible to only benefit one's self.
1. Ego: The I or self of any person, distinguishing itself from the selves of others and from objects of its thought.
This is the common Buddhist definition of ego. It is our human arrogance and the short interval of observation that tells us we are separate from everything else. In reality, the particles that compose your body have belonged to many other beings and objects--even other humans. Furthermore, it is obvious that we are not separate from our environment. There is interdependence.
Well, at :53 you say the ego is the consciousness. From this definition, of course it's impossible to transcend consciousness. What would it really mean to transcend consciousness, anyhow? I think a few definitions of "ego" would help:
@JoshRom : well why not? To me it's just a model to allow a spacial metaphor, what we consider ego is our subjective seat, so I just use the term that way.
I'm open to challenges on the advisability of that.
Note I'm using it more like a Cursor, within the conscious mind.
To transcend the ego you must first see that the ego is the thinking that THINKS it is you. You must see that YOU are different from that thinking. You are not that voice in your head that chatters on endlessly. YOU are that consciousness that observes the thinking. Living more and more from that consciousness, YOU can begin to separate from the thinking. The ego will not just go away, though. It's existence depends on playing you. It will play you transcending the ego. You won't see it.
i recognize that i can observe my thoughts. and that thoughts are just thoughts, they're not truths. and therefore i am just this constantly present experience right? am i on the right track??
@TutorWizard The trick is to truly live the constantly present experience. Your thinking will try to do it and will fail. Only YOU can do it, which means your inner being/ your intuition/ your essence. There are ways to know when YOU are there verses the thinking.
@livenowdoing : I think I agree but also I don't like the rhetoric of "living in the now"... that's what we already do, what we're getting at when we say that is something like this in my estimation: The now is not a moment, it's an interval.
... The more you widen that interval, the more you are living in the past and/or future, and I think the texture of our stream of phantasia is made more bland and flavourless, which is a metaphorical way of saying that our feelings are less intense, more "removed". We must focus on narrow "ranges" to feel intense pleasures. The narrower your now, the more intense your pleasure and pain response to what counts as current conditions.
Then the questions become, which sizes of now are best & why?
@pyrrho314 I am a proponent of "doing in the now" as a way of separating from thinking. As I mentioned to TudorWizard, the non thinking activity of simply asking yourself OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" before doing any activity and waiting for the INTUITION to answer and doing what the intuition says to do (not what the thinking says to do) takes you out of your HEAD and places you in the DOING - where life is, not where thinking is. You can repeat this as often as you remember to.
@pyrrho314 I am a proponent of "doing in the now" as a way of separating from thinking. As I mentioned to TudorWizard, the non thinking activity of simply asking yourself OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" before doing any activity and waiting for the INTUITION to answer and doing what the intuition says to do (not what the thinking says to do) takes you out of your HEAD and places you in the DOING - where life is, not where thinking is. You can repeat this as often as you remember to.
@pyrrho314 I am a proponent of "doing in the now" as a way of separating from thinking. As I mentioned to TudorWizard, the non thinking activity of simply asking yourself OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" before doing any activity and waiting for the INTUITION to answer and doing what the intuition says to do (not what the thinking says to do) takes you out of your HEAD and places you in the DOING - where life is, not where thinking is. You can repeat this as often as you remember to.
@livenowdoing right, i understand now. its all about what would i be doing now if weren't having these thoughts, but i dont think it is wise to push thoughts out of our heads because when we do this we attach meaning to them i think. so how do we deal with thoughts? just ignoring them and not trying to get rid of them?
@TutorWizard When you ask yourself "what do I need to do now? and wait for the intuition to answer and do what the intuition says, you are taking your focus off the thinking and putting your focus on your intuition. The intuition is your inner knowing. You will find that you already know what you need to do. The thinking will come in and THINK the answer. Just observe the thinking and do what you intuitively know to do. You still need to ask OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" each time.
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
@TutorWizard YOU are not your thoughts. Your thinking just thinks you are and you accept it as true. A simple way to glimpse the real YOU is to ask OUT LOUD before doing any activity "what do I need to do now?" wait for your INTUITION to answer (not the voice in your head but what you feel in your chest area), do what you intuitively know you need to do. When you finish that activity ask again OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" and do what the intuition tells you to do. Don't Think.
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
Wow, this was really horrible. I didn't get anything from this at all. Well. The clouds were nice. I'll have to view this video as a cloud, it passed by and I saw it but it means nothing to me afterwards.
"to transcend the ego is to embrace the ego". i disagree. you cannot transcend something by embracing it. to experience what the ego is for yourself is to be honest with Self.. but to embrace it is to hold on to it and accept it as yourSelf, as what you do as who you are. you are NOT the ego or the Mind and its programs unless you choose to be that. and to choose to be the mind is to choose separation of yourSelf. ego=self-interest=spite=separation= the big fucking mess we are in NOW
i am only trying to help you see another perspective so that you may find yourSelf, that is all. i didnt call you a "transcendalist" or anything else, I simply gave an honest perspective from my experience concerning the ego of Man, not necessarily yours imparticular.. "we become what we are more fully" what do you mean by this? what are you? what are you becoming more fully? just curious. send me a pm if you like. take care.-Corey
can u maintain an even voice tone throughout the video? it's kinda annoying the fact that ur voice goes up and down, i had to constantly regulate the volume :P
Strangely I understand now that the mind ultimately holds you back when the objective is the real. So maybe the pathway to take is to destroy the mind.
it is all that give you access and defines what "real" means for you... if the goal is to get at the real, we have to embrace the minds, and realize that to go toward the real does not mean some short order way to obtain what we go toward.
Reality is objective, which is a good way to look @ the ego. In a way I could say the real & the mind are one in the same & that what's real should coexist with the mind. Thinking on this, I would reverse the roles of the mind & ego. The ego would be the big blog of green that hinders your perceptions of reality, while the mind would be everything that is inherent to you, including all of the knowledge you possess.
reality is relativistic and manyhistoried... that's not what is general meant by calling it, or implying that it is, an "object".
the universe bears little relation to what we call an object, and what we called "objective". At most, facts could be objective... that is, particular statements about particular relationships.
awesome, I think this is my best video idea wise, though I could have done the voice acting better, usually I don't read stuff I've written, aka a script... but still, this is my best video I think. I'm glad if the metaphor is of use, I find it so.
For mrmadeinheaven: Well yes, everybody has an ego. I think it's important to have one. It depends on what we do with it. If we want the world to be a better place maybe not because of altruism, but out of ego, because our lives will be better, then that's a good way to use the ego. :0)
To the contrary. Non ego allows for action which is motivated from the heart, and is therefore pure in its intent. Ego, on the other hand is motivated by selfishness which results in discontent.
Not he physical heart, but a heart that is not clouded over by ego. If you want to understand the science behind this, read up on heartmath and the research they have conducted in this area.
it sounds like a dangerous illusion. Our connection to nature is clouded, I intend to accept that and the truth of that, rather than pretend there are no clouds. We do not live in a featurless universe, and we do not live in a universe in which we do not take part. Since we take part ourself clouds the connection, and it ought to. To overcome this is to accept it and admit it, rather than claim magical powers of cognition which can not be question and therefore, not truly shared.
hey, that actually sounds pretty damn good! *Ego drools* but for now we'r settling for mcdonalds hehe YUM > big mac, fries, and a coke.. ego says "I'm lovin it!", lol tc
I find the topic of 'mind' can become a word game- lost in concepts, models, terminology, semantics & redefining etc.- so there is no real transcendence then- ok good- now me wonders what is an 'ego/will' other than an 'idea' to explain behaviour/perceptions & if ideas are correlates of brain matter then matter... Perhaps perceptions of ego/will are like those of colour.?
there still is the phenomenon we are trying to explain... we give it a name, "will", "ego", and the rest, and then seek to understand what we have noticed.
Transcendence, would seemed to imply ego an obstacle unto itself although, at the start of the clip it was stated that the ego could not be transcended so, that I guess became unclear for me. I also, I got the impression ego and consciousness were used interchangeably, *shrug*.
Interesting video, though I think it relates more to conscious memory (improving recall / recognition).
my point is we can't transend it except by using it well, so, transcendance only ironically. We still are the will, and view the world from a single point.
calculus is transcendental. whether or not the ego can transcend is debatable, which is a question of the ego, and not at all of transcendence.
I think we can have transcendental knowledge, for derivation and integration proves this clearly, but I don't think we can ever transcend our own egos. Even reflection is a kind of experience.
good video ... but I disagree regarding our ability to expand what is "readily available"... "my brain thinks" to make something more available, you inevitably make something else less available... in other words (short-term) memory is finite and when something is put in something else must be taken out... except in the child, which is writing to a lot of empty space.
thanks... but some effort is required to access even readilly available "conscious" thoughts, so if we remember the trail head, and with minimal effort (e.g. reliable mapping) make something immediately conscious, I'm just saying that's "as if" on transcends... but of course, I said in general you don't transcend, you just use the ego better.
The ego is the distorted soul. The ego is the worship of the spirit of power and neglect of the spirit of highest intelligence -- these both spirits within a set of spirits, but power in the middle and hi at the edge. You can draw the cross-section of the soul as the sine of angles 9.18.27...90 give the radii. If you want Join myspace and see highestprecision if your seeking the truth. This video is nuts.
inertialcapacity 1 year ago
@inertialcapacity ah, I see, well, you don't seem to realize there are other meanings of the word "ego", technical meanings. This is about the seat of the will.
If you are eliminativist about will and consciousness, I don't consider that enlightened, no offense. Feel free to make a reply and I will take the reply seriously and try to address/explain whatever the factual point you are making is.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
youre wrong about your little diagram, but you will never agree with me that you are wrong. so goodbye. i bid you a happy life at least.
OdeToNecrophilia 1 year ago
@OdeToNecrophilia how so and why do you think that? I'm not as invested in it as you may think, but I also don't think likely. It's a useful metaphor, not nec a "correct" one.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 kool! glad you understand that you may be polluting peoples minds with this view of ego.
i dont mean harm to you but really i think true info is more helpful to everyone.
i think its wrong because i feel like its wrong. God bless you :)
OdeToNecrophilia 1 year ago
@OdeToNecrophilia : I do not thin I've polluted anyones mind, I think it's a good metaphor for mental space and is usefull. Could you tell me what you think is pollution and what metaphor you have that's more accurate in some way?
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 hmm I dont know.
OdeToNecrophilia 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 I liked your diagram :)
Machew4Life 1 year ago
Don't you have some yoga to do?
KingRogan 1 year ago
@KingRogan : dumb ass no
pyrrho314 1 year ago
2.Ego: egotism; conceit; self-importance: Her ego becomes more unbearable each day
This is the most pertinent definition of ego. In this definition, it seems realistic that one can transcend conceit and egotism. One might suggest that if your motivation to transcend the ego is to increase your own happiness, you are egoistic. Certainly, from this approach, transcending egoism is paradoxical. However, if one realizes the interdependence of all things, it is impossible to only benefit one's self.
JoshRom 1 year ago
1. Ego: The I or self of any person, distinguishing itself from the selves of others and from objects of its thought.
This is the common Buddhist definition of ego. It is our human arrogance and the short interval of observation that tells us we are separate from everything else. In reality, the particles that compose your body have belonged to many other beings and objects--even other humans. Furthermore, it is obvious that we are not separate from our environment. There is interdependence.
JoshRom 1 year ago
Well, at :53 you say the ego is the consciousness. From this definition, of course it's impossible to transcend consciousness. What would it really mean to transcend consciousness, anyhow? I think a few definitions of "ego" would help:
JoshRom 1 year ago
in the video I say that it is expanding the scope of your consciousness.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
I'm not sure why you're defining the ego as the conscious mind.
JoshRom 1 year ago
@JoshRom : well why not? To me it's just a model to allow a spacial metaphor, what we consider ego is our subjective seat, so I just use the term that way.
I'm open to challenges on the advisability of that.
Note I'm using it more like a Cursor, within the conscious mind.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
To transcend the ego you must first see that the ego is the thinking that THINKS it is you. You must see that YOU are different from that thinking. You are not that voice in your head that chatters on endlessly. YOU are that consciousness that observes the thinking. Living more and more from that consciousness, YOU can begin to separate from the thinking. The ego will not just go away, though. It's existence depends on playing you. It will play you transcending the ego. You won't see it.
livenowdoing 2 years ago
that sounds good to me.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
i just don't understand
TutorWizard 1 year ago
i recognize that i can observe my thoughts. and that thoughts are just thoughts, they're not truths. and therefore i am just this constantly present experience right? am i on the right track??
TutorWizard 1 year ago
@TutorWizard : sounds right to me.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@TutorWizard The trick is to truly live the constantly present experience. Your thinking will try to do it and will fail. Only YOU can do it, which means your inner being/ your intuition/ your essence. There are ways to know when YOU are there verses the thinking.
livenowdoing 1 year ago
@livenowdoing : I think I agree but also I don't like the rhetoric of "living in the now"... that's what we already do, what we're getting at when we say that is something like this in my estimation: The now is not a moment, it's an interval.
pyrrho314 1 year ago
... The more you widen that interval, the more you are living in the past and/or future, and I think the texture of our stream of phantasia is made more bland and flavourless, which is a metaphorical way of saying that our feelings are less intense, more "removed". We must focus on narrow "ranges" to feel intense pleasures. The narrower your now, the more intense your pleasure and pain response to what counts as current conditions.
Then the questions become, which sizes of now are best & why?
pyrrho314 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 I am a proponent of "doing in the now" as a way of separating from thinking. As I mentioned to TudorWizard, the non thinking activity of simply asking yourself OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" before doing any activity and waiting for the INTUITION to answer and doing what the intuition says to do (not what the thinking says to do) takes you out of your HEAD and places you in the DOING - where life is, not where thinking is. You can repeat this as often as you remember to.
livenowdoing 1 year ago
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@pyrrho314 I am a proponent of "doing in the now" as a way of separating from thinking. As I mentioned to TudorWizard, the non thinking activity of simply asking yourself OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" before doing any activity and waiting for the INTUITION to answer and doing what the intuition says to do (not what the thinking says to do) takes you out of your HEAD and places you in the DOING - where life is, not where thinking is. You can repeat this as often as you remember to.
livenowdoing 1 year ago
@pyrrho314 I am a proponent of "doing in the now" as a way of separating from thinking. As I mentioned to TudorWizard, the non thinking activity of simply asking yourself OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" before doing any activity and waiting for the INTUITION to answer and doing what the intuition says to do (not what the thinking says to do) takes you out of your HEAD and places you in the DOING - where life is, not where thinking is. You can repeat this as often as you remember to.
livenowdoing 1 year ago
@livenowdoing right, i understand now. its all about what would i be doing now if weren't having these thoughts, but i dont think it is wise to push thoughts out of our heads because when we do this we attach meaning to them i think. so how do we deal with thoughts? just ignoring them and not trying to get rid of them?
TutorWizard 1 year ago
@TutorWizard When you ask yourself "what do I need to do now? and wait for the intuition to answer and do what the intuition says, you are taking your focus off the thinking and putting your focus on your intuition. The intuition is your inner knowing. You will find that you already know what you need to do. The thinking will come in and THINK the answer. Just observe the thinking and do what you intuitively know to do. You still need to ask OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" each time.
livenowdoing 1 year ago
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
TutorWizard 1 year ago
@TutorWizard YOU are not your thoughts. Your thinking just thinks you are and you accept it as true. A simple way to glimpse the real YOU is to ask OUT LOUD before doing any activity "what do I need to do now?" wait for your INTUITION to answer (not the voice in your head but what you feel in your chest area), do what you intuitively know you need to do. When you finish that activity ask again OUT LOUD "what do I need to do now?" and do what the intuition tells you to do. Don't Think.
livenowdoing 1 year ago
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
TutorWizard 1 year ago
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
TutorWizard 1 year ago
@livenowdoing but how do we do that if the only way to check if its you verses the thinking is with your mind and your thoughts. because isn't everything thought? even the words im writing now, they come from thoughts right? so how can we possibly get away from our thoughts?
TutorWizard 1 year ago
Wow, this was really horrible. I didn't get anything from this at all. Well. The clouds were nice. I'll have to view this video as a cloud, it passed by and I saw it but it means nothing to me afterwards.
lodgekolm 2 years ago
I can live with that.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
"to transcend the ego is to embrace the ego". i disagree. you cannot transcend something by embracing it. to experience what the ego is for yourself is to be honest with Self.. but to embrace it is to hold on to it and accept it as yourSelf, as what you do as who you are. you are NOT the ego or the Mind and its programs unless you choose to be that. and to choose to be the mind is to choose separation of yourSelf. ego=self-interest=spite=separation= the big fucking mess we are in NOW
cojobo34 2 years ago
well, this would be why I am not a "trancendentalist"... we are what we ware, we become what we are more fully.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
i am only trying to help you see another perspective so that you may find yourSelf, that is all. i didnt call you a "transcendalist" or anything else, I simply gave an honest perspective from my experience concerning the ego of Man, not necessarily yours imparticular.. "we become what we are more fully" what do you mean by this? what are you? what are you becoming more fully? just curious. send me a pm if you like. take care.-Corey
cojobo34 2 years ago
no problem I appreciate the feedback
pyrrho314 2 years ago
can u maintain an even voice tone throughout the video? it's kinda annoying the fact that ur voice goes up and down, i had to constantly regulate the volume :P
1 star!
xxXghislainXxx 2 years ago
please call tech support
pyrrho314 2 years ago
please take a public speaking course
xxXghislainXxx 2 years ago
thank you so much for you confidence in my potential
pyrrho314 2 years ago
Strangely I understand now that the mind ultimately holds you back when the objective is the real. So maybe the pathway to take is to destroy the mind.
symptomy 2 years ago
it is all that give you access and defines what "real" means for you... if the goal is to get at the real, we have to embrace the minds, and realize that to go toward the real does not mean some short order way to obtain what we go toward.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
Reality is objective, which is a good way to look @ the ego. In a way I could say the real & the mind are one in the same & that what's real should coexist with the mind. Thinking on this, I would reverse the roles of the mind & ego. The ego would be the big blog of green that hinders your perceptions of reality, while the mind would be everything that is inherent to you, including all of the knowledge you possess.
symptomy 2 years ago
reality is relativistic and manyhistoried... that's not what is general meant by calling it, or implying that it is, an "object".
the universe bears little relation to what we call an object, and what we called "objective". At most, facts could be objective... that is, particular statements about particular relationships.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
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bhweller 2 years ago
thank you for that. i think its going to help me a lot in the future
msumonica 3 years ago
awesome, I think this is my best video idea wise, though I could have done the voice acting better, usually I don't read stuff I've written, aka a script... but still, this is my best video I think. I'm glad if the metaphor is of use, I find it so.
pyrrho314 3 years ago
Cool! I think i learned a lot about myself watching this video. I knew some stuff earlier about the ego but this is new information for me. :)
DecepticonLeader 3 years ago
Hey I like you. I figured out new stuff about things I left behind earlier in life!
T850CSM101a1676 3 years ago
I really really like this.
874ckm4n 3 years ago
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mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
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mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
For mermadeinheaven: You sound double standard. Big ego.
nicolatwo 3 years ago
sound double standard? how so?
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
and while i'll give you that i do still have an ego, it's not as compulsive as it used to be lol
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
For mrmadeinheaven: Well yes, everybody has an ego. I think it's important to have one. It depends on what we do with it. If we want the world to be a better place maybe not because of altruism, but out of ego, because our lives will be better, then that's a good way to use the ego. :0)
nicolatwo 3 years ago
Yes. Whithout the ego we might not have any motivation to do anything.
nicolatwo 4 years ago
To the contrary. Non ego allows for action which is motivated from the heart, and is therefore pure in its intent. Ego, on the other hand is motivated by selfishness which results in discontent.
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
whose heart are you talking about?
pyrrho314 3 years ago
Not he physical heart, but a heart that is not clouded over by ego. If you want to understand the science behind this, read up on heartmath and the research they have conducted in this area.
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
it sounds like a dangerous illusion. Our connection to nature is clouded, I intend to accept that and the truth of that, rather than pretend there are no clouds. We do not live in a featurless universe, and we do not live in a universe in which we do not take part. Since we take part ourself clouds the connection, and it ought to. To overcome this is to accept it and admit it, rather than claim magical powers of cognition which can not be question and therefore, not truly shared.
pyrrho314 3 years ago
Good response, pyrrho. ;0)
nicolatwo 3 years ago
Be careful not to boost his ego! lol jk
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
For mrmadeinheaven: Ha. You think his ego is big?
nicolatwo 3 years ago
No. it was just a joke :)
anwyayz have fun over there, im off to feed my ego some food lol tc
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
For mermadeinheaven: Just fed my ego a shrimp burrito.
nicolatwo 3 years ago
hey, that actually sounds pretty damn good! *Ego drools* but for now we'r settling for mcdonalds hehe YUM > big mac, fries, and a coke.. ego says "I'm lovin it!", lol tc
mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
For mermadeinheaven: Be careful, McDonald's is dangerous food. ;0)
nicolatwo 3 years ago
I am the thing being controlled. The ghost is in the machine.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
I find the topic of 'mind' can become a word game- lost in concepts, models, terminology, semantics & redefining etc.- so there is no real transcendence then- ok good- now me wonders what is an 'ego/will' other than an 'idea' to explain behaviour/perceptions & if ideas are correlates of brain matter then matter... Perhaps perceptions of ego/will are like those of colour.?
docrufus 4 years ago
there still is the phenomenon we are trying to explain... we give it a name, "will", "ego", and the rest, and then seek to understand what we have noticed.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
Transcendence, would seemed to imply ego an obstacle unto itself although, at the start of the clip it was stated that the ego could not be transcended so, that I guess became unclear for me. I also, I got the impression ego and consciousness were used interchangeably, *shrug*.
Interesting video, though I think it relates more to conscious memory (improving recall / recognition).
blackcrow6667 4 years ago
my point is we can't transend it except by using it well, so, transcendance only ironically. We still are the will, and view the world from a single point.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
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mermadeinheaven 3 years ago
interesting metaphor, seems apt.
pyrrho314 3 years ago
calculus is transcendental. whether or not the ego can transcend is debatable, which is a question of the ego, and not at all of transcendence.
I think we can have transcendental knowledge, for derivation and integration proves this clearly, but I don't think we can ever transcend our own egos. Even reflection is a kind of experience.
Great Vid!
staalnacore 4 years ago
thanks, I love calculus, solves one of the major errors in framing in mathematics which applies, I think, in general... believe in points.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
something moves it...
pyrrho314 4 years ago
cheers... nice conceptualization. i'm envious you know the cube, /me so dumb ;)
nutshell is still stuck in his consideration of whether a set of all sets contains itself... hah, i'm so tired.
jogayot 4 years ago
well, it may, but if it does, it's with a reference not a value... viva Russell.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
This is fascinating!
EMTRUE 4 years ago
glad you liked it
pyrrho314 4 years ago
good video ... but I disagree regarding our ability to expand what is "readily available"... "my brain thinks" to make something more available, you inevitably make something else less available... in other words (short-term) memory is finite and when something is put in something else must be taken out... except in the child, which is writing to a lot of empty space.
inmendham 4 years ago
thanks... but some effort is required to access even readilly available "conscious" thoughts, so if we remember the trail head, and with minimal effort (e.g. reliable mapping) make something immediately conscious, I'm just saying that's "as if" on transcends... but of course, I said in general you don't transcend, you just use the ego better.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
Great stuff!
gratex 4 years ago