Pretty bad lesson to be honest. It's not informative or insightful really. However, the beat isn't wrong, he's just playing 2-3 instead of the usual 3-2.
I love these "teachers" that don't actually show anything.
Anyone that watches expertvillage and wants to be a drummer should just pick up the Groove Essentials DVD (or book) and be done with it. At least Tommy igoe knows what he's talking about...AND takes the time to actually TEACH what he is playing.
haha i love the comments on these videos, its a masterclass in venomous insults. "hi im meatloaf and drumming has always been a secret passion of mine"
The important thing in any Bossa Nova, and Samba for that matter, is you can't be heavy handed with the groove.Think of the feel in "Girl From Ipanema."
Don't take on the whole groove yourself. You're only one component.The other percussionists ,guitar and bass complete the picture.
@patton303 the lovely thing about the original cut of girl from ipanema is that about 70% of the time all you hear is the hi hat. the syncopation can really come from the guitar or drums, if both are pounding it into your head it simply loses the whole vibe of the bossa.
The section in which he teaches you how to play the bossa nova beat is missing. He's not that bad compared to the other "experts" at expertvillage though.. they should call it "amateurs teaching beginners" village.
I didn't learn a damn thing, what the hell were you trying to teach me. You did a very small fill that didn't match the dynamics of a bossa nova, that is all I saw.
cmon guys,give him a brek. for me it looks ok. atleast they share something than nothing. Thats the basic bosa beat. I think the beat i ok, but the drum sound is bad.
The guy isn't teaching people how to play shit here. He is simply throwing out the idea. I can play better than this guy, but, I can also appreciate what he's aiming for here. I'm certain this guy would love for someone to be able to learn what he's showing and play it back better than what he's demonstrated.
What the f is this guy doing putting a video up on the internet, when he cant even play drums!?!?! IF you want to know how to play bossa nova, listen to a record called GETZ/GILBERTO, by stan getz the amazing sax player who popularized bossa nova way back when... enough of this terrible video shit, this guy sucks dont listen to him, listen to the people who actually made the music on the records.
can people please stop mentioning the snare. it's not brilliant but it's not the problem in itself. he just hasn't bothered with any kind of tape on the snare head and so on. Could use a bit of tuning and some moongel... and then it'd be fine.
if your gonna post a vid pleeeeeeaaaasssseeeee use a decent kit or borrow one for the vid cause all these vids of people playing their shitty kits are screwing all the beginners up and makin them think that that is what it is supposed to sound like.
not to rank on this vid or anything cause im not the best drummer or maybe im not hearing something but, this version of bossa does not sound anything like bossa to me. maybe hes playing it very str8 for the lesson but it has no rhythm to it per say.
yeh. It is possible that you are being confused. Not your fault though, because this could defo be played better.
I think to teach the bossa, you need to make clear the roots of it and also, which type of clave your going to play on it. You can play the son or rumba clave on 3 2 or 2 3 with that style of bossa nova. I only watched the vid once, but i think i remembering him starting 2 3 son clave. And also, the accent on the (1) to finish was quite rough. ACCENT ON 4! lol
man you dont know anything about bossa.you play it like rock.bossa is urban music,and is very sensitive.you must play it very quiet,because the main instrument is acoustic guitar,often with naylon strings.bass drum play du du only when the song is in climax.you must fathering bass drum,and play quarter notes.somethimes without bass drum.rhythm create with brush and rim click,or light sticks.brasilian music dont have clave,only cuban.rim click improvise on melody.
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! The BASIC Bossa Nova rim click IS (over 2 measures) 1, & of 2, 4 / 2, & of 3. That is the TRADITIONAL BASIC rim click. It DOES NOT START on beat 2 of the 1st measure. Learn it before you try to teach it.
It would be good if he would have counted before playing at :32 as it was not explained that he used a 1/8 note pickup note on the bass drum.The 1st note of the 2 bass drum notes was a pickup note OUTSIDE the 1st measure and BEFORE beat 1. Another thing, snares should be OFF when playing this rhythm.Also, it's important to learn this rhythm with right hand using a brush swishing 8th notes right to left then left to right on the floor tom with a coated head on the tom.
you are such an idiot! he's teaching something and you are watching it, sit on your chair at home criticizing it and offending him. if you want to show that u don't agree, do it politely.
Sorry for you... and apologize for him. i thought u liked the one Mr Peter Ersnike showed, Mr Vinnie Colaiuta, Mr Steve Gadd and Mr Alex Acuna. also Mr Dennis Chamber. please take the names i gave you in order and you will see why. be carreful, always listen ...not look what they play. i am sure you will enjoy and learn at the same time. Chau
as much as an asshole mozambque is I think he is right, bossa nova is not rock and should not be approached the same way as rock. I do not think this guy is a good teacher becasue he did not break anything down or even tell us how we should be approaching it. he was just all "thins is how you play it. ready go"
the bass kick is totally wrong; listen to Paulo; go to school!
OrangeDemise 6 months ago
if you are Brazilian you heard balsa nova drum beat?
danimass 6 months ago
he starts playing a bossa rumba
daveydrumm 7 months ago
Why did I click on this video?... I HATE BOSSA NOVA!!!! AAAaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
723398216 8 months ago
expert village?!?!? whoops, wrong video...
iamthejez 8 months ago 6
Pretty bad lesson to be honest. It's not informative or insightful really. However, the beat isn't wrong, he's just playing 2-3 instead of the usual 3-2.
CherubicGuardian 10 months ago
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patton303 10 months ago
I hate that this video is the first video suggestion on MY drum video's page.
patton303 10 months ago
I bet Lars lives in this Expert Village
hosenpose 10 months ago
were going to be learning how to plat a bossa nova drum beat ( 2 seconds later) now that we know how to play a bossa nova drum beat
LOL
YouHates 10 months ago
.. I've been playing / practicing bossa nova for about 4 months and already I think I;ve got the bossa nova sussed out better than this..
0:58 is a bit shabby in that its more of a rock fill
and well, co-ordination should have been there to keep the ostinato on the bass foot at 0:53
I think I learned more from reading what patton303 wrote below
Now, I dont know your skill or drumming history or anything about you, but this aint a good lesson mate :l
DexStanT 11 months ago
I love these "teachers" that don't actually show anything.
Anyone that watches expertvillage and wants to be a drummer should just pick up the Groove Essentials DVD (or book) and be done with it. At least Tommy igoe knows what he's talking about...AND takes the time to actually TEACH what he is playing.
crazydrumma 1 year ago
comic book guy! worrrrrrrrrrrrrst frum instructional video evvvvvvvveeeeeerrrrrrrrrr
Blink182DudeRanch 1 year ago
@Blink182DudeRanch u my friend have not seen enough expert village
lbb2r 10 months ago
This is closer to a Samba than a Bossa Nova... and it's not even close to a Samba!
motard117 1 year ago
good, !!!
zerojssp 1 year ago
you.suck.
drumsoundprog 1 year ago
Nice drums...Maybe spend some more money on drumming lessons?Plus looooooooose weight....
VegetaSasuke89 1 year ago
is expert village trolling???
teamsleepnine 1 year ago
I don't mean to be a dik, but that's not a Bossa Nova groove. At all.
You're playing more of a combination of a Samba and an 1/8th note rock groove.
Hat accents (called the Clase) should be on all "and's". Sometimes with opens on all the "e's". It also can be played on a tamborim or guiro.
Left X Stick should be : 1 & e ah e 4 & :||
Kick is correct.
peece
patton303 1 year ago
haha i love the comments on these videos, its a masterclass in venomous insults. "hi im meatloaf and drumming has always been a secret passion of mine"
RorySinn 1 year ago
My old car used to misfire more rhythmically than that.
louchemobile 1 year ago
get a diet fatass!
cherryboy90 1 year ago
0:58 que merda é essa
rattrameggeagoth 1 year ago
your beats off man, that's not a bossa
RizzoSaurusRex 1 year ago
guys! he's talking about the "bossa nova" button on his casio. i say its a brilliant interpration
TheJkirsch 1 year ago
the drum kit is rubbish tune it up
jaggass 1 year ago
are you listening BOSSA NOVA before????
dafe69 1 year ago
it's not bossa nova!!!
MrLucoresna 1 year ago
I bet you're feenin for a hamberger right now.
Go have a snack for me now.
TUBEORATER 1 year ago
The important thing in any Bossa Nova, and Samba for that matter, is you can't be heavy handed with the groove.Think of the feel in "Girl From Ipanema."
Don't take on the whole groove yourself. You're only one component.The other percussionists ,guitar and bass complete the picture.
Very simple and dynamically down.
patton303 1 year ago
@patton303 the lovely thing about the original cut of girl from ipanema is that about 70% of the time all you hear is the hi hat. the syncopation can really come from the guitar or drums, if both are pounding it into your head it simply loses the whole vibe of the bossa.
untitledtopher 1 year ago
@untitledtopher
werd...
patton303 1 year ago
thanks fat boy. that helped a lot
pwrman5kfan09 2 years ago
hey, fuck you. that is straight up, NOT a bossa nova!
Setho1000 2 years ago
dude u look like a nice guy but just go home
insainedRuMmeR 2 years ago
can you do that
mrsuperwarhammer40k 2 years ago
The section in which he teaches you how to play the bossa nova beat is missing. He's not that bad compared to the other "experts" at expertvillage though.. they should call it "amateurs teaching beginners" village.
shizo668 2 years ago 4
hahaha nice
Username880 2 years ago
Agreed
alloneword154 1 year ago
hmm prolly thats not a "bossa nova" but i think that the beat is kinda complex, i wanna see the guys saying that he sux, do that beat.
epicmenio 2 years ago
I'm a brazilian drummer... And I think that your Bossa is quiet stronger than it had to be.... Abração e Continue tocando!
guilhermeti 2 years ago
When watching this watch from 00:00 to 00:20. LOL
mrTooKanSam 2 years ago
I think you are a very nice guy, but to say you paly "BOSSA NOVA"" no way dude!
tony1946 2 years ago
ashuahsuahsuahsuahsuahsuas(lol)(cell)
nativosolar 2 years ago
i wonder how many chairs he broke in his life time
PuNiShxXUnFiTxX 2 years ago
the first second or so of this video is hilarious.
Sentraman4 2 years ago 2
Complimenti!! Sorry I'not speak english!!! I' love song jazz drum!!!
chriskill2 2 years ago
haha
Kaktusreggae 2 years ago
haha i think the name expertvillage is compensation for something :P...
racoonfish 2 years ago
nice guy !
Zecke6666 2 years ago 2
JAJAJJAJA GORDO Q LOGY!!!
nachoaldosivi 2 years ago
He's the best jazz drummer in expert village^^
Nikitaman666 2 years ago
oh there´s no smooth feeling
don´t play the bass drum like PUM PUM
NulsNuls 2 years ago
Why do they call it expert village when there are full of noobs?
TongueSnap 2 years ago 27
@TongueSnap To be an expert, you first have to be a noob.
nekku19 9 months ago
you dont play drums... you arent musician... you dont have "touch"...
juanjohansson 2 years ago
there is a bit Crush sound between snare n hi hit. well you keep on the timing, cheer up!
8tartz 2 years ago
This is not "learn how to play a boss nova beat", it's "watch me play a boss nova beat, with terribel timing".
Expert village?! My fat arse...
stroketheboat 2 years ago
cant you play harder?
jellie126 2 years ago
haha!! when you stop it at 00:20. lol!
jellie126 2 years ago
Muscovee - Absolutely hilarious!! Can I be in charge of torture once you've overthrown the "village"?
kardstix 2 years ago
Should had stayed in Afganhistan.
sjpastrami 2 years ago
I want to live in "expert" village. It seems like a really easy place to overthrow and set up my revolutionary government based on not sucking.
Muscovee 2 years ago 55
@Muscovee that was great bro
slipknot938337338 1 year ago
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I didn't learn anything at all... U suck balls you fat piece of shit.!!!!!!
Thamacx 2 years ago
hahahaha...LOSER :)
depechemodista 2 years ago
I didn't learn a damn thing, what the hell were you trying to teach me. You did a very small fill that didn't match the dynamics of a bossa nova, that is all I saw.
beerfunk 2 years ago
cmon guys,give him a brek. for me it looks ok. atleast they share something than nothing. Thats the basic bosa beat. I think the beat i ok, but the drum sound is bad.
toolmantaylor 2 years ago 3
u suck
filsp123456789 2 years ago
i leanred something btw... tnx for posting this vid... crapy snare....
underprog 2 years ago 2
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Hey asswipe u call yourself a drummer i dont think sothe bass drum has to be quite when playing a bossa nova groove
SpaceCowboy617 2 years ago
a really good drum machine would be easier to learn than the drum kit
jaggass 2 years ago
yeah but then you wouldn't be playing the real thing, it's just like a nerf vibrator, it's just not the same.
Nutsymton 2 years ago
but drum machines produce a distinctive sound
jaggass 2 years ago
very very like you snare =)
and...
pro mark stik millennium 2?? :p
i have thes in my hand now =)
AlexShyBoy 2 years ago
Let latin music for latins... lol :P
just kidding.. keep on playing mate!
Argento1982 2 years ago
Hey just a nice comment to say your not playing it right .... sorry mate you have it wrong!!!
craiggiarg 2 years ago
man, the bass drum is on the and of 4 and 1, you have it all wrong
jonThedrummerify 2 years ago
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stickwithganja 2 years ago
wow you dont know what youre doing. guess i shouldnt expect much from expertvillage though
epasurr 2 years ago
that is not how you play a bossa nova, you have the bass beat reversed. Its not fucking rock!!
andyyhitscar 2 years ago 3
I am Milton Banana and I invented the Bossa Nova beat. You need some work sonny.
Lorenzo1950 2 years ago 2
those drums sound like pooooooop
JahazielakaCurly 2 years ago 4
That snare sounds rank
shennyboyjnr94 2 years ago 4
expert village uses the worst people
good on you though champ
jaydendrums111 2 years ago
Você tem que comer muito arroz e feijão ainda!
traknojunior 2 years ago
the snare drum hit at 0:49 sounds like a dying cow.
jbushdrums 2 years ago 3
The guy isn't teaching people how to play shit here. He is simply throwing out the idea. I can play better than this guy, but, I can also appreciate what he's aiming for here. I'm certain this guy would love for someone to be able to learn what he's showing and play it back better than what he's demonstrated.
smoothdrummer29 2 years ago
What the f is this guy doing putting a video up on the internet, when he cant even play drums!?!?! IF you want to know how to play bossa nova, listen to a record called GETZ/GILBERTO, by stan getz the amazing sax player who popularized bossa nova way back when... enough of this terrible video shit, this guy sucks dont listen to him, listen to the people who actually made the music on the records.
Stix074 2 years ago
good vid
rampo94 2 years ago
lol. Stop the video at 0:19 xD his face
IrishWarrior00 2 years ago
lol, I did it. that sh*t is funny.
jcthedrummer 2 years ago
hahahaha its a jack black face
redsox341538 2 years ago 3
lol, that devilish look...
hes like saying i'm gonna eat you...
underprog 2 years ago
LOL
infiniteobscure 2 years ago 4
try to stop at 00:20 and see what i mean!...
underprog 2 years ago 2
hahhahahahahaha, i see, he, looks like the big ghost of the ghostbusters xD
infiniteobscure 2 years ago
That was funny.... >:|
MHTVMusicians 2 years ago
Expert village idiots..I've never heard so much rubbish from so many different 'tutors'.
I play 12 instruments and have taught and played music prof. for 25 years. It's such a shame that learners get to listen to this half - assed crap...
honeynz 2 years ago 2
ok then, where's YOUR tutorial then?
idiobox 2 years ago
whoops, redundant.
idiobox 2 years ago
can people please stop mentioning the snare. it's not brilliant but it's not the problem in itself. he just hasn't bothered with any kind of tape on the snare head and so on. Could use a bit of tuning and some moongel... and then it'd be fine.
paranoidgoldfish 2 years ago
if your gonna post a vid pleeeeeeaaaasssseeeee use a decent kit or borrow one for the vid cause all these vids of people playing their shitty kits are screwing all the beginners up and makin them think that that is what it is supposed to sound like.
Bailey0aka0billy 2 years ago
people that are mediocre drummers need to stop posting bad videos like this...just listen to that snare. IT SOUNDS AWFUL
jsatzy 2 years ago 2
your face sounds awful douchebag
urbanpsych0 2 years ago
soooo..... if (your favorite drummer here) was playing that admittedly bad sounding kit he would be a "mediocre drummer?"
joethedrummer08 2 years ago
he should be accenting the hat when he plays the crosstick on the snare.
symmetryinkc 2 years ago
Thanks quite useful. I think all these critics should shut up and post there own videos! Well done for having a go.
georgegeorge67 2 years ago
dude.. I'm so sorry. You really need to get a non-shitty set.
lnWant 2 years ago 2
YOUR SNARE SUCKS
mattisoneraddude 2 years ago 2
asteeeg!
jekkalloggss 2 years ago
sorry man...
but snare hit at 0:49 made me rofl -_-
... did u make that snare urself or something?
BrokenHandz 2 years ago 10
nah he prob didnt just a shitty snare i have that snare too *sighs* it sucks
Abnormalties 2 years ago
what kind of a snare is it??
Drumzzz22 2 years ago
uhm an excel so it sucks. idk why i said i have that same snare uz i dont think i do. Im not a drummer or anything but i know my snare sucks
Abnormalties 2 years ago
not to rank on this vid or anything cause im not the best drummer or maybe im not hearing something but, this version of bossa does not sound anything like bossa to me. maybe hes playing it very str8 for the lesson but it has no rhythm to it per say.
cubiche88 2 years ago 3
yeh. It is possible that you are being confused. Not your fault though, because this could defo be played better.
I think to teach the bossa, you need to make clear the roots of it and also, which type of clave your going to play on it. You can play the son or rumba clave on 3 2 or 2 3 with that style of bossa nova. I only watched the vid once, but i think i remembering him starting 2 3 son clave. And also, the accent on the (1) to finish was quite rough. ACCENT ON 4! lol
pandadrums 2 years ago
That groove is based of of the song Girl From Ipanema.
=P
DaS0cc3rDj 2 years ago
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your overwaight
michaelH715 2 years ago
You cant spell. Ha! Self ownage!
asturel13 2 years ago 9
YES
michaelH715 2 years ago
Overtones like crazy on the snare Dude !
dvideto 2 years ago
his bass sounds like an extra snare, but good lesson.
dedios03 2 years ago
ill give you a fiver for ur kit mate
itssgreg 2 years ago
His left hand JUST about makes the timing, almost out of time.
sweetbutdaring 2 years ago
is that even a snare??? haha
coflo1616 3 years ago 4
Boooo. Your snare sounds horrible. Tune it/get new heads and dampen that shit. Bass is WAY too heavy.
artfreakz 3 years ago
Okay you need to work on your bass...too heavy...Try my class Cintia Orlandi
Cintiaorlandi 3 years ago
Give the man some cred, its just an instructional vid not a fucking solo.
Keep Drumming man!!
Dude4Less 3 years ago 2
your snare sounds like butthole no wonder you use the rim...
LSweener012 3 years ago 6
YOU WOULD HAVE A HUGE WANG A LANG!
AsumeNuthin 3 years ago 2
HAAHAHAHAHA. What does that even mean. That made me laugh so much. thank you.
Pillysrule 2 years ago
this sucks, fatboy
PaulNiehausIV 3 years ago 3
0:50 WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?
b00mhauer 3 years ago 5
lol, seriously
LastExile123 3 years ago 2
a rim-miss, lol
shabbydrummerkid1994 3 years ago
yah! dat was weird! :|
pengy94 3 years ago
yeah, what the fuck is the hole thang?!
jimmy9258 3 years ago
your snare sounds off tune!!!!!!!!! but the bass is alrite!
robotskater143 3 years ago
heyy thats is wrong fat friend jjejeje, oye gordito eso no es bossa
arcadia442 3 years ago
man you dont know anything about bossa.you play it like rock.bossa is urban music,and is very sensitive.you must play it very quiet,because the main instrument is acoustic guitar,often with naylon strings.bass drum play du du only when the song is in climax.you must fathering bass drum,and play quarter notes.somethimes without bass drum.rhythm create with brush and rim click,or light sticks.brasilian music dont have clave,only cuban.rim click improvise on melody.
pektus5 3 years ago 4
lmao i have the excact same iorn cobra basse peadle as you but mine is a double kicker
tyearlfries4 3 years ago
hahaha hopefully i dont see nxt time:)fatty
empire562 3 years ago
thanks mate!
F1CO 3 years ago
The bass sounds alrite
but your snare sounds to alittle off tune if you play from 0:56 to 0:58
pimpmasterflex21 3 years ago
that set's sound is terrible!
maybe (cough cough) 'expert' village should do a tuning lesson!
kyledrum15 3 years ago 2
I am an experienced drummer.
This is the fourth drums lesson by "expert village" full of mistakes that I see.
I hope no young drummer will learn Bossa in this wrong way.
The first thing to teach is "Bossa clave", the real heart of this rhythm.
Similar to "son clave" but not the same, can be played in 3:2 or in 2:3.
Clave is played by left hand.
No matter if you play ghost notes, tom toms, triplets etc. but NEVER STOP CLAVE RHYTHM.
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Excuse my bad English. ;)
italiarovinata 3 years ago
Young drummers, please,
you have all the Web at your disposal.
Do search in Google for a basic drums partiture (sheet) of Bossa Nova.
It's easy to read, easy to play and absolutely correct.
And it could be a good day to start reading drums sheets.
italiarovinata 3 years ago
cant find one
catskillz 3 years ago
is a really simple tutorial, but is nice and practicle, thats what matters. thanks.
angelole 3 years ago
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! The BASIC Bossa Nova rim click IS (over 2 measures) 1, & of 2, 4 / 2, & of 3. That is the TRADITIONAL BASIC rim click. It DOES NOT START on beat 2 of the 1st measure. Learn it before you try to teach it.
dotdadee 3 years ago
you are right.
the really basic is euhm... well i know to write and play and such things but cant explain it here =D cheers !
MetropolisAtMyTube 3 years ago
Sure ya can. Makes me think I should start doing some vids.
dotdadee 3 years ago
there are two main ways to play BN. starting on the one or the two.
bruisedupunk 3 years ago
It would be good if he would have counted before playing at :32 as it was not explained that he used a 1/8 note pickup note on the bass drum.The 1st note of the 2 bass drum notes was a pickup note OUTSIDE the 1st measure and BEFORE beat 1. Another thing, snares should be OFF when playing this rhythm.Also, it's important to learn this rhythm with right hand using a brush swishing 8th notes right to left then left to right on the floor tom with a coated head on the tom.
dotdadee 3 years ago
Wow... every single video you made shows nothing, no offense
ISwearSheWas16 3 years ago
that snaredrum sucks! but you have explained the basics of a bossa nova well!
fabianblom 3 years ago
yah, that snare is loooooose
DanielRobertFrosT 3 years ago
ur ''shanshee''? :D
TomValedro 3 years ago
snare doesnt sound too good...
ZirclesAndZyre 3 years ago
im using ride and it looks cooler
art97812 3 years ago
On my Bossa Nova i play it with the Ride and add some high hat beats throughout it to give it more feeling and make it a little more difficult
drummingskater14 3 years ago
same :)
metalfreak27 3 years ago
love your bass drum ...awesome keep it up
hectorslollol 3 years ago
what tempo is this?
i dont play drums but this tempo works great with my guitar riff
JeganFreeView 3 years ago
wtf the sound is too bad :S
resortesdelinfierno 3 years ago
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bossa nova is bossa nova ..............not rock little fatty
mozambique1500 3 years ago
you are such an idiot! he's teaching something and you are watching it, sit on your chair at home criticizing it and offending him. if you want to show that u don't agree, do it politely.
I find the video pretty useful,thanx
angelooo85 3 years ago 4
douche baag
sixguns 3 years ago
Sorry for you... and apologize for him. i thought u liked the one Mr Peter Ersnike showed, Mr Vinnie Colaiuta, Mr Steve Gadd and Mr Alex Acuna. also Mr Dennis Chamber. please take the names i gave you in order and you will see why. be carreful, always listen ...not look what they play. i am sure you will enjoy and learn at the same time. Chau
mozambique1500 3 years ago
as much as an asshole mozambque is I think he is right, bossa nova is not rock and should not be approached the same way as rock. I do not think this guy is a good teacher becasue he did not break anything down or even tell us how we should be approaching it. he was just all "thins is how you play it. ready go"
1337jazzdrums 3 years ago
cool name
DrummerGuy247 3 years ago
ummm sarcasm? haha
1337jazzdrums 3 years ago