When a priest turns to a child for his sexual relief or an uncle does the same thing with his niece because she can't get pregnant, which one is more holy?
the reason catholic priests do not marry has to do with the time of octavian, where merova was gaining power through marriage and divorce and her line was also trying to get sons to join the church and gain power, not only secularly, but religiously as well. Pope Octavian was installed in this method, and he was killed, dragged across the streets of rome, and then burned and thrown into the river... Afterwards, women started having less rights, and men in the church couldn't marry.
Ridiculous. The reason is documented history - priests were stopped from getting married to keep the popes from continuing to pass the wealth & power down to their son, and so on. It was kept within families. It's stupid and damaging to deny normal human biological behavior. It causes such damage. To call it a gift is just twisted.
I think it's ridiculous. For God to want His closest people (the priests) to not pass on their genes and love with a family of their own seems like a man-made idea and definitely not something God would want.
The Orthodox Christian Discipleship Ministries (O.C.D.M.) serves those in the body of Jesus christ (and to all that Christ call through this ministry) who are called to Serve Jesus Christ in the priesthood. For more information.
@sagkavin I'm a sick man?? I'm not the one who dates alter boys; I'm not the one who covers up the crimes of pedophile priests. You also forget that 40 Popes were married.
@CounterCultureLives you are judging a group by few of the sick in it. they are also human. They can sin. I am not defending them. Those who did it are wrong. But there are many dedicated people are there..
If you are born-again and baptized in the Holy Spirit as Christ mandated for entrance into the Kingdom of heaven (ie. John 3:3-7); then you will be able to discern between 'truth' and 'deceptive man-made doctrine'. This type of theology is influenced by 'lying religious spirits' which have infiltrated the Catholic and also many Protestant churches. These churches are founded on OT (Old Testament) theology & structure; even though we are living in the New Testament age established by Christ!
Come on! Celibacy was mandated in the 11th century for purely secular reasons. Given the economic importance of marriage, and the potential for Church properties and wealth to pass into the wife's family, resulting in loss of big bucks to the Church, celibacy (not having the right to marry) was the perfect solution. Best evidence is that even Jesus, Peter, Paul, and all the apostles were married. All the testimony in this video is from brainwashed priests who masturbate a lot.
@theclarinet1234 Love is the one thing necessary. Celibacy was once considered as a "small price to pay" for the priesthood. As a priest of 46 years, I now see this explanation as negative & insufficient. Rather Celibacy is a positive element in the priest. It helps him to grow in a "universal love", a deeper love for every human being, & paradoxically, a greater appreciation for marriage. I love to see a father for example kiss his newborn. I see a soldier embrace his wife & children in tears.
@watchful38 I do not doubt that you feel exactly as you say. I fully affirm your right to express your experiences. Yet, my comment stands. Celibacy was mandated for secular, economic reasons originally. Until the 11th century, a man could become a priest and still marry. Why not a choice? For guys like you, who don't need marriage, be celibate. For others, be married. Anglicans & Orthodox do it that way very successfully.
It is confusing because the result is obvious and contradictory to nature and God ordained marriage and a twist of Scripture for good measure. great for homosexuals and pedophiles unfortunately and sadly. Who would give a dime to pay for abuses they hid and spent millions covering up and paying out.
Jesus did not require the leaders of the church to practice celibacy!
The Apostle Simon/Peter was married and Jesus went to his mother-in-law's house to heal her of a fever! (See Luke 4:38-39, Matthew 8:14-15 or Mark 1:29-31)
This is a personal choice; whichever everyone should be given the freedom to choose.
And the Lord's structure for leadership within the church is also found in Ephesians 4:11; "He gave some to be Apostles; Prophets, Evangelists; Pastors & Teachers!"
@dvitale07 Paul wasn't married and he called anyone who was willing to follow Christ to do the same even though it is a hard task. The whole point of having celibate priests is that they be focused on God instead of worrying about their wives. Read 1 Cor 7:32-35. And even Jesus himself praised celibacy in Mt 19:12. And indeed you are free to choose whether to be a priest or not, it's your decision and they're celibate. Structure for leaderships comes from way back in the OT, priests, bishops etc
@cuantumk The structure of the New Testament Church is found in Ephesians 4:11! Apostle Paul said that Yeshua Himself; (the Head of the church) "called some to be apostles; some to be prophets; some to be evangelists; and some to be pastors and teachers." This is what some refer to as the 5-fold ministry and this is Christ's formula for leadership within the church. The point here is that in the New Covenant; we are all "a royal priesthood" (1 Peter 2:9) and Christ alone is our High Priest!
@dvitale07 Indeed no one denies what you're saying friend. You just don't have the whole picture. There's more to it than just those verses in the new testament. Indeed those who are to be the apostles, are the same who are to be called priests today. Why? Because priests, bishops, deacons and etc were already commanded by God himself to Israel, and thus the Jews have their priests (rabbis) and Jesus did not condem their office, though he came to fulfill it, which is the Catholic Church.
@dvitale07 - hey, your bible looks different than our catholic bible. Your Jesus in your bible is married and has mother in laws while our real Jesus in our catholic bible is 100% pure holy and have never married to any woman and has no mother in law. or may be you mean men and women get marry to Jesus as a priest or a nun to serve him faithfully and to imitate jesus' works in his only one true church.
forbidden to marry leaves priest in a needy way, his sexual needs are not met. unless he is strong enuff to substain,or unless he is an enock.. but if they choose to be perfect then God blessem...
dont trust your scarlet arrayed beast worshipping prelates and yes that statement is biblical o pretended old testament "ignateous pretended saint" Jeremiah 7:4 Do not trust in deceptive words and say, "This is the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD! would the temple of the most holy one condone beast worship? veneration of objects? secret channeling ? all lies from our prelates who make the news hourly with their huge sex scandles and false docturines
we are celibate! but be also need a alterboy system to maintain this trick! exclaims the prelate to the other. yes our sexual needs can be met with the parishners males.well never get caught as we are infallible and if we do get caught well just absolve oursolves from the sin. yes! cries the prelate dressed in purple, excellent deception but will they buy it? only if we add a new docturine and a new set of rules cries the prelate dressed in all white
Wow... you've made my day! Thanks be to GOD for vocations. St. Hannibal, pray for us. St. John Mary Vianney, pray for us. Have a wonderful day everyone. GOD we pray for peace. Amen.
In 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 Paul brings out that it can also be good for a person to remain single--but because of the sexual immorality all around you in Corinth, it's also good to be married.Matthew 26:41 (King James):Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. If celibacy a gift from God, why has there been reports of sexual abused in the church? Do these priests suddenly give into temptation? Hmmm the flesh is weak
‘’Thou Shalt Not make Unto Thee Any Graven Image’’ but go to The Emperors Palace, The XVI Chapel look up and O. my god, a very beautiful a painting of God about to touch Adam. Can you explain that. This is hypocritical, only one of many many more. Excuse my grammar I attended catholic school, Free yourself from religion.
Christ knew this and he told it to the people and they became Christians but Constantine stold the Christian faith and perverted it by mixing it with Roman believes and greed, The Emperor became The Pope his grotesque palace became The Vatican and the Christians became the paying members, Catholics are such hypocrites more then most religions yet they all are, case in point the second commandment
The Priests are married to the Church, for they have dropped their pants to fondle little boys which Christ did not ask for. Church meaning 'body' must mean booty call.We, the members, are the body and in many ways children to it as we are children to be taken advantage of, hence 'father' as we speak to Priests. We do not need a priest to be close to God, Our Consciousness is God we can choose to do Gods will or not,
Repent beleave the word to stand on it on, not a person veiw their no need for me to bring in more things that are in the bible against that man made docterine. Chirst was not a roman, nor a catholic but a the only way, truth, and Life. I ll fallow no one but Christ himself and only Believe the word of God. Choosing to be celbient, does not make a person more Holy or closer to God. Jesus shares him self with whom he chooses, not be a idolgy to work and make your self celebent. I am done repent
2.Matthew- 6:18That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. Now you said christ was the catholic church, if that were true. He could not have spoken so much against the catholic church. especially in revolation. Yet the church pratices thoose thing he spoke not to practice. The word of the true Christ speak on thier own. The catholic church us in direst dissobedance the the words of Truth.
1 Timothy 4:2-4 (King James Version)2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Colossians 2:18-Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
1 Corinthians 5:6-Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? If the bible speaks against the church a little than its a abomonation unto the Holiness of God. Its a lie all of it. Lets explore what the bible says.Matthew 23:9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
The church was made in hevean and advanced here on earth. Christ advanced the fathers kingdom, the same kingdom that they created before the created the physcial body, Study Gensis and see if man was made in spirit of physical form frst. Second the bible speaks against catcholics teaching and yes I study 1511 kjv. Now you stated to make a statement against the cathoic church is to make one against jesus christ. Your right against your imaginary vision of a roman Jesus Christ.
First of all the bible Christ did not build the cathoic church. The roman,build the catholic church,,second of all when it comes to Scripture. It applys to all of all generations. Peter is not the first pope. Also the Church that Christ advanced here on earth was, has been , and will always be astablished. Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.
Celibacy vs love between two people. Both are gifts? One of these "gifts" is from God. I will be convinced when the gift of children can emerge from the gift of celibacy.
@Videx19@nelvato15 that little notion is pointless. The Priests are married to the Church, for they have dropped everything to follow Christ which Jesus asked for. Church meaning 'body' is the Body of Christ. we, the members, are the body and in many ways children to it as we are children to God. we are the Priests children in many ways as well, as he is to help guide us so we may be come closer to God. hence 'father' as we speak to Priests.
@nelvato15 that little notion is pointless. The Priests are married to the Church, for they have dropped everything to follow Christ which Jesus asked for. Church meaning 'body' is the Body of Christ. we, the members, are the body and in many ways children to it as we are children to God. we are the Priests children in many ways as well, as he is to help guide us so we may be come closer to God. hence 'father' as we speak to Priests.
Please if your mad, our upset, that's okay,and if you wanna talk about scripture awesome, but talk about scriptures and allow the bible,Gods word to define and speak for itself. Psalm 119:89-For ever, O LORD thy word is settled in heaven.All shall pass away, but the word of Christ are settle forever, and shall Judge righteously. rely on your priest words, preacher words, and or pastors words only and not God. you two can discus theologies all day long in hell together. Trust in Christ only.
The priest hood, is no more,1 John 2:27-But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. All you need is to seek Christ first, and be born again, and live according to the Commands of Christ. Recap swear not at all,Christ is married a "bridegroom", and Jesus called the priest Children of satan. repent.
@quickandead it is sad to think you believe such a lie. Jesus established the Church which is refereed to as Catholic. Jesus is Priest of Priests and there for any act or statement against the Priests is against Jesus. furthermore these posts you leave is towards hypocrites ( a small group of individuals being Priests at the time of Jesus), but not the entire people that chose to be Priests within the Jewish Religion.
As concerning the priest hood. Here what Christ says about and to them. John 8: 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.children of Satan
Mark 2:19And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. Wait, a sec you said, that Jesus was not married, but yet, the Words of God, his own words, he calls himself a bridegroom. a groom. Either your in error, or Christ is a liar, which one. God can not lie for their is no darkness in him. Were are your scriptures all i see on your comment is onion.
Matthew 5 (King James Version) 33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. Make no vowel according to Christ, none.
the prieshood is something sacred that was established by Christ while on Earth, and Christ was celibate and he preached the pracitce of celibacy. To condemn it is to condemn Christ. Anything u hear about bad things priests have done is b/c of bad ppl that have joined the priesthood to do evil b/c u arent born a priest u have to become one. The same can be said about protestant pastors like Ted Haggard who was married and some orthodox rabbis that have abused kids while married.
Romans 1:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
READ ROMANS 1:25-31 AND REV. 17 THIS IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
@quickandead What the hell are u talking about? No where in the scripture is celibacy condemed b/c Christ himself was celibate, the author of Romans St.Paul was celibate, and tradition that the Apostles all left their wives and took a vow of celibacy. To condem celibacy is to reject Christ.
WHAT A WICKED CULT. ITS FULL OF WITCH CRAFT, AND SIN. THIS IS THE GREAT WHORE OF BABYLON. ITS NOT A GIFT FORM GOD, Proverbs 18:22
Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.
SO IF THEY LOSE THERE FLESHLY URGES, WHY ARE THEY MOLESTING CHILDREN, RAPING NUNS, TORTURE AND KILLING, STILL TO THIS DAY THOSE PREACHING THE GOSPEL AS SALT AND LIGHT ARE COMMANDED TO DO.
i think its wrong. a man who goes into priesthood does not automtically lose his sexual urges. this wasnt imposed until 500 ad by the pope. thats why a lot do it in secret. they should be allowed to marry.
Just what exactly was the sacrifice of Jesus? He didn't even stay dead. He was resurrected after 3 'days' and then he got to be God? The biggest joke of all is that all this was done to create a loop hole in the God's own law. Why can't God forgive without a sacrifice? Why doesn't anyone follow the Old Testament laws like stoning your unruly child or practice slavery or kill someone for working on the sabbath or kill homosexuals? No, you pick and choose! None of this is real.
When a priest turns to a child for his sexual relief or an uncle does the same thing with his niece because she can't get pregnant, which one is more holy?
courag1 1 day ago
actual history right there.
eddieisfiction 4 days ago
the reason catholic priests do not marry has to do with the time of octavian, where merova was gaining power through marriage and divorce and her line was also trying to get sons to join the church and gain power, not only secularly, but religiously as well. Pope Octavian was installed in this method, and he was killed, dragged across the streets of rome, and then burned and thrown into the river... Afterwards, women started having less rights, and men in the church couldn't marry.
eddieisfiction 4 days ago
@eddieisfiction sorry it was emperor octavian, and his brother was pope...
eddieisfiction 4 days ago
Ridiculous. The reason is documented history - priests were stopped from getting married to keep the popes from continuing to pass the wealth & power down to their son, and so on. It was kept within families. It's stupid and damaging to deny normal human biological behavior. It causes such damage. To call it a gift is just twisted.
Trillidotia 6 days ago
@Trillidotia correct because of merova, who was a famous woman who could marry and divorce to gain lands. After that time, women couldnt gain lands.
eddieisfiction 4 days ago
I think it's ridiculous. For God to want His closest people (the priests) to not pass on their genes and love with a family of their own seems like a man-made idea and definitely not something God would want.
SanguineBullet667 2 weeks ago
You stupid dillusional idiot.
donaldblowers 3 weeks ago
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orthodoxocana 3 weeks ago
"Why are Catholic Priests not allowed to marry??
Because so many states have outlawed gay marriage!!
CounterCultureLives 4 weeks ago
@CounterCultureLives You are a sick man.
sagkavin 1 week ago
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@sagkavin I'm a sick man?? I'm not the one who dates alter boys; I'm not the one who covers up the crimes of pedophile priests. You also forget that 40 Popes were married.
CounterCultureLives 1 week ago
@CounterCultureLives you are judging a group by few of the sick in it. they are also human. They can sin. I am not defending them. Those who did it are wrong. But there are many dedicated people are there..
sagkavin 1 week ago
because they rape choir boys upon the popes orders
theblob34 1 month ago
@theblob34 the pope doesnt order it you fool
seanynut1994 3 weeks ago
@theblob34 Y are you sick in mind. Go to a good psychiatrist, you are judging a group by few of the sick in it.
sagkavin 1 week ago
because they choir boys
theblob34 1 month ago
If you are born-again and baptized in the Holy Spirit as Christ mandated for entrance into the Kingdom of heaven (ie. John 3:3-7); then you will be able to discern between 'truth' and 'deceptive man-made doctrine'. This type of theology is influenced by 'lying religious spirits' which have infiltrated the Catholic and also many Protestant churches. These churches are founded on OT (Old Testament) theology & structure; even though we are living in the New Testament age established by Christ!
dvitale07 3 months ago
Come on! Celibacy was mandated in the 11th century for purely secular reasons. Given the economic importance of marriage, and the potential for Church properties and wealth to pass into the wife's family, resulting in loss of big bucks to the Church, celibacy (not having the right to marry) was the perfect solution. Best evidence is that even Jesus, Peter, Paul, and all the apostles were married. All the testimony in this video is from brainwashed priests who masturbate a lot.
theclarinet1234 4 months ago
@theclarinet1234 Love is the one thing necessary. Celibacy was once considered as a "small price to pay" for the priesthood. As a priest of 46 years, I now see this explanation as negative & insufficient. Rather Celibacy is a positive element in the priest. It helps him to grow in a "universal love", a deeper love for every human being, & paradoxically, a greater appreciation for marriage. I love to see a father for example kiss his newborn. I see a soldier embrace his wife & children in tears.
watchful38 4 months ago
@watchful38 I do not doubt that you feel exactly as you say. I fully affirm your right to express your experiences. Yet, my comment stands. Celibacy was mandated for secular, economic reasons originally. Until the 11th century, a man could become a priest and still marry. Why not a choice? For guys like you, who don't need marriage, be celibate. For others, be married. Anglicans & Orthodox do it that way very successfully.
theclarinet1234 4 months ago
Pretended Father, how many ignorant pills do you take each day?
doothless 1 year ago
@doothless seriously
naejsolrac 9 months ago
It is confusing because the result is obvious and contradictory to nature and God ordained marriage and a twist of Scripture for good measure. great for homosexuals and pedophiles unfortunately and sadly. Who would give a dime to pay for abuses they hid and spent millions covering up and paying out.
7801Croc 1 year ago
Jesus did not require the leaders of the church to practice celibacy!
The Apostle Simon/Peter was married and Jesus went to his mother-in-law's house to heal her of a fever! (See Luke 4:38-39, Matthew 8:14-15 or Mark 1:29-31)
This is a personal choice; whichever everyone should be given the freedom to choose.
And the Lord's structure for leadership within the church is also found in Ephesians 4:11; "He gave some to be Apostles; Prophets, Evangelists; Pastors & Teachers!"
God bless you!
dvitale07 1 year ago
@dvitale07 Paul wasn't married and he called anyone who was willing to follow Christ to do the same even though it is a hard task. The whole point of having celibate priests is that they be focused on God instead of worrying about their wives. Read 1 Cor 7:32-35. And even Jesus himself praised celibacy in Mt 19:12. And indeed you are free to choose whether to be a priest or not, it's your decision and they're celibate. Structure for leaderships comes from way back in the OT, priests, bishops etc
cuantumk 3 months ago
@cuantumk The structure of the New Testament Church is found in Ephesians 4:11! Apostle Paul said that Yeshua Himself; (the Head of the church) "called some to be apostles; some to be prophets; some to be evangelists; and some to be pastors and teachers." This is what some refer to as the 5-fold ministry and this is Christ's formula for leadership within the church. The point here is that in the New Covenant; we are all "a royal priesthood" (1 Peter 2:9) and Christ alone is our High Priest!
dvitale07 3 months ago
@dvitale07 Indeed no one denies what you're saying friend. You just don't have the whole picture. There's more to it than just those verses in the new testament. Indeed those who are to be the apostles, are the same who are to be called priests today. Why? Because priests, bishops, deacons and etc were already commanded by God himself to Israel, and thus the Jews have their priests (rabbis) and Jesus did not condem their office, though he came to fulfill it, which is the Catholic Church.
cuantumk 3 months ago
@dvitale07 By the way I sent you a message, respond to me there, thanks friend. :)
cuantumk 3 months ago
@dvitale07 - hey, your bible looks different than our catholic bible. Your Jesus in your bible is married and has mother in laws while our real Jesus in our catholic bible is 100% pure holy and have never married to any woman and has no mother in law. or may be you mean men and women get marry to Jesus as a priest or a nun to serve him faithfully and to imitate jesus' works in his only one true church.
lovencare62 1 month ago
Now to the unmarried and to widows, I say: it is a good thing for them to remain as they are, as I do,
9 but if they cannot exercise self-control they should marry, for it is better to marry than to be on fire. 1 Corinthians 7:8-9
Priests Should Not be Married... They must Be sure of their Holy Vocation before taking their Vows and being ordained.
AndrEwsskon 1 year ago
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AndrEwsskon 1 year ago
forbidden to marry leaves priest in a needy way, his sexual needs are not met. unless he is strong enuff to substain,or unless he is an enock.. but if they choose to be perfect then God blessem...
rustydusty40 1 year ago
dont trust your scarlet arrayed beast worshipping prelates and yes that statement is biblical o pretended old testament "ignateous pretended saint" Jeremiah 7:4 Do not trust in deceptive words and say, "This is the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD! would the temple of the most holy one condone beast worship? veneration of objects? secret channeling ? all lies from our prelates who make the news hourly with their huge sex scandles and false docturines
ThePretendedfather 1 year ago
we are celibate! but be also need a alterboy system to maintain this trick! exclaims the prelate to the other. yes our sexual needs can be met with the parishners males.well never get caught as we are infallible and if we do get caught well just absolve oursolves from the sin. yes! cries the prelate dressed in purple, excellent deception but will they buy it? only if we add a new docturine and a new set of rules cries the prelate dressed in all white
ThePretendedfather 1 year ago
Wow... you've made my day! Thanks be to GOD for vocations. St. Hannibal, pray for us. St. John Mary Vianney, pray for us. Have a wonderful day everyone. GOD we pray for peace. Amen.
rfvietnamrose 1 year ago
In 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 Paul brings out that it can also be good for a person to remain single--but because of the sexual immorality all around you in Corinth, it's also good to be married.Matthew 26:41 (King James):Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. If celibacy a gift from God, why has there been reports of sexual abused in the church? Do these priests suddenly give into temptation? Hmmm the flesh is weak
ncast54 1 year ago
‘’Thou Shalt Not make Unto Thee Any Graven Image’’ but go to The Emperors Palace, The XVI Chapel look up and O. my god, a very beautiful a painting of God about to touch Adam. Can you explain that. This is hypocritical, only one of many many more. Excuse my grammar I attended catholic school, Free yourself from religion.
nelvato15 1 year ago
Christ knew this and he told it to the people and they became Christians but Constantine stold the Christian faith and perverted it by mixing it with Roman believes and greed, The Emperor became The Pope his grotesque palace became The Vatican and the Christians became the paying members, Catholics are such hypocrites more then most religions yet they all are, case in point the second commandment
nelvato15 1 year ago
The Priests are married to the Church, for they have dropped their pants to fondle little boys which Christ did not ask for. Church meaning 'body' must mean booty call.We, the members, are the body and in many ways children to it as we are children to be taken advantage of, hence 'father' as we speak to Priests. We do not need a priest to be close to God, Our Consciousness is God we can choose to do Gods will or not,
nelvato15 1 year ago
Repent beleave the word to stand on it on, not a person veiw their no need for me to bring in more things that are in the bible against that man made docterine. Chirst was not a roman, nor a catholic but a the only way, truth, and Life. I ll fallow no one but Christ himself and only Believe the word of God. Choosing to be celbient, does not make a person more Holy or closer to God. Jesus shares him self with whom he chooses, not be a idolgy to work and make your self celebent. I am done repent
quickandead 1 year ago
2.Matthew- 6:18That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. Now you said christ was the catholic church, if that were true. He could not have spoken so much against the catholic church. especially in revolation. Yet the church pratices thoose thing he spoke not to practice. The word of the true Christ speak on thier own. The catholic church us in direst dissobedance the the words of Truth.
quickandead 1 year ago
1 Timothy 4:2-4 (King James Version)2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
quickandead 1 year ago
Colossians 2:18-Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
quickandead 1 year ago
1 Corinthians 5:6-Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? If the bible speaks against the church a little than its a abomonation unto the Holiness of God. Its a lie all of it. Lets explore what the bible says.Matthew 23:9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
quickandead 1 year ago
The church was made in hevean and advanced here on earth. Christ advanced the fathers kingdom, the same kingdom that they created before the created the physcial body, Study Gensis and see if man was made in spirit of physical form frst. Second the bible speaks against catcholics teaching and yes I study 1511 kjv. Now you stated to make a statement against the cathoic church is to make one against jesus christ. Your right against your imaginary vision of a roman Jesus Christ.
quickandead 1 year ago
First of all the bible Christ did not build the cathoic church. The roman,build the catholic church,,second of all when it comes to Scripture. It applys to all of all generations. Peter is not the first pope. Also the Church that Christ advanced here on earth was, has been , and will always be astablished. Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.
quickandead 1 year ago
Celibacy vs love between two people. Both are gifts? One of these "gifts" is from God. I will be convinced when the gift of children can emerge from the gift of celibacy.
Videx19 1 year ago
@Videx19 @nelvato15 that little notion is pointless. The Priests are married to the Church, for they have dropped everything to follow Christ which Jesus asked for. Church meaning 'body' is the Body of Christ. we, the members, are the body and in many ways children to it as we are children to God. we are the Priests children in many ways as well, as he is to help guide us so we may be come closer to God. hence 'father' as we speak to Priests.
nessunopassato 1 year ago
That dome is a phallic symbol, the emptiness represents not having children
nelvato15 1 year ago
@nelvato15 that little notion is pointless. The Priests are married to the Church, for they have dropped everything to follow Christ which Jesus asked for. Church meaning 'body' is the Body of Christ. we, the members, are the body and in many ways children to it as we are children to God. we are the Priests children in many ways as well, as he is to help guide us so we may be come closer to God. hence 'father' as we speak to Priests.
nessunopassato 1 year ago
Why do you feel you have to sit in the dark like that? Are are you afraid of something?
binkle1 1 year ago
Please if your mad, our upset, that's okay,and if you wanna talk about scripture awesome, but talk about scriptures and allow the bible,Gods word to define and speak for itself. Psalm 119:89-For ever, O LORD thy word is settled in heaven.All shall pass away, but the word of Christ are settle forever, and shall Judge righteously. rely on your priest words, preacher words, and or pastors words only and not God. you two can discus theologies all day long in hell together. Trust in Christ only.
quickandead 1 year ago
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quickandead 1 year ago
The priest hood, is no more,1 John 2:27-But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. All you need is to seek Christ first, and be born again, and live according to the Commands of Christ. Recap swear not at all,Christ is married a "bridegroom", and Jesus called the priest Children of satan. repent.
quickandead 1 year ago
@quickandead it is sad to think you believe such a lie. Jesus established the Church which is refereed to as Catholic. Jesus is Priest of Priests and there for any act or statement against the Priests is against Jesus. furthermore these posts you leave is towards hypocrites ( a small group of individuals being Priests at the time of Jesus), but not the entire people that chose to be Priests within the Jewish Religion.
nessunopassato 1 year ago
As concerning the priest hood. Here what Christ says about and to them. John 8: 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.children of Satan
quickandead 1 year ago
Mark 2:19And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. Wait, a sec you said, that Jesus was not married, but yet, the Words of God, his own words, he calls himself a bridegroom. a groom. Either your in error, or Christ is a liar, which one. God can not lie for their is no darkness in him. Were are your scriptures all i see on your comment is onion.
quickandead 1 year ago
Matthew 5 (King James Version) 33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. Make no vowel according to Christ, none.
quickandead 1 year ago
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quickandead 1 year ago
the prieshood is something sacred that was established by Christ while on Earth, and Christ was celibate and he preached the pracitce of celibacy. To condemn it is to condemn Christ. Anything u hear about bad things priests have done is b/c of bad ppl that have joined the priesthood to do evil b/c u arent born a priest u have to become one. The same can be said about protestant pastors like Ted Haggard who was married and some orthodox rabbis that have abused kids while married.
eljunior98 1 year ago
Romans 1:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
READ ROMANS 1:25-31 AND REV. 17 THIS IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
quickandead 2 years ago
@quickandead What the hell are u talking about? No where in the scripture is celibacy condemed b/c Christ himself was celibate, the author of Romans St.Paul was celibate, and tradition that the Apostles all left their wives and took a vow of celibacy. To condem celibacy is to reject Christ.
eljunior98 1 year ago
WHAT A WICKED CULT. ITS FULL OF WITCH CRAFT, AND SIN. THIS IS THE GREAT WHORE OF BABYLON. ITS NOT A GIFT FORM GOD, Proverbs 18:22
Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.
SO IF THEY LOSE THERE FLESHLY URGES, WHY ARE THEY MOLESTING CHILDREN, RAPING NUNS, TORTURE AND KILLING, STILL TO THIS DAY THOSE PREACHING THE GOSPEL AS SALT AND LIGHT ARE COMMANDED TO DO.
quickandead 2 years ago
Timothy 4:1-3
dood620 2 years ago
eve the bible warned against it.
dood620 2 years ago
i think its wrong. a man who goes into priesthood does not automtically lose his sexual urges. this wasnt imposed until 500 ad by the pope. thats why a lot do it in secret. they should be allowed to marry.
dood620 2 years ago
Priests are too holy to have a son, but God can have a son? Do you really believe that either one of those things make sense?
dawahaddict 2 years ago
Just what exactly was the sacrifice of Jesus? He didn't even stay dead. He was resurrected after 3 'days' and then he got to be God? The biggest joke of all is that all this was done to create a loop hole in the God's own law. Why can't God forgive without a sacrifice? Why doesn't anyone follow the Old Testament laws like stoning your unruly child or practice slavery or kill someone for working on the sabbath or kill homosexuals? No, you pick and choose! None of this is real.
mcsnavely 2 years ago
God bless the Catholic Church!
DavidVelezPerez 2 years ago
It is beautiful, since it gives the heavenly father a pure servant who may do his total work.
RockyBalboa211 2 years ago