Free Energy - Matrix Awakening - Spiritual Awakening - Course of Awakening

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

I'm taking some time to dialogue with on the 'cutting edge' here - (that's an audacious name) sort of like the tv show 20/20 who pretends to 'see the truth clearly' with 20/20 vision.

It's a good example of 'scientism' dogmatism in my view. Readers decide for yourself. I am not telling you you need to believe anything (period!)

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Hi Again, your mind's imagination can also conjure up paradoxes that the logical side says can not exist and space time will not allow a paradox to occur, the mind can lie very well to itself and others. an almighty God per say is in fact a Paradox. but since your creative side seems to be ruling out your logical side you tend to believe it without logical fact. Logic side always tells the truth, only the creative side twists up the facts.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 Do you know about the 'double slit experiment'? if you do - could you explain the 'logic' behind that for me?

What the mind believes it sees...including as quantum physics is learning - the 'solid reality' around us.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. " Einstein

until Science deals with the (now increasingly) Fact that 'physical reality' is a soup of energy and light -and realizes that the 'observes' affects if not creates this reality, it's lost

[onthecuttingedge2005]

@tobiaslarsgunnar

Hi Again, Yes, I know very well of the single, Double, Triple slit experiment, it has nothing to do with spirituality. Quantum Photon packets are they're own Anti-Particle, even when the light bouncing from your own eye tries to perceive an observation it will interfere with experiment. entangled particles even entangled electrons behave this way, stop trying to fill in the blanks with the word God or spirituality because you do not have the logical answer.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

I hate You tubes text limit, it really sucks.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Also, I do not support Classical Mechanics, not one bit. Classical Mechanics is nothing but dogma. Science will continue to fill in the blanks with corrected Science and Religion of every sort will continue to follow science to plagiarize it. they have to or religion will die a sorrowful death. it is the resolution of observation that is important. Resolution is everything when it comes to Observation and understanding. besides, I like arguing with you, you are fun to hang with.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

the fastest rout to any solution is purely logic, Period! with Logic, I can prove if anything that your creative mind can conjure and if it can be real and reality. spirituality does not compute the facts, it only twists them to form a new non- reality that doesn't follow the LAWS of nature. there is a saying, if you do not follow the rules of a mountain in this world, the mountain will kill you. your spirituality will not save you in the least. only logic will save you period.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 so more of the idea of 'Logic' worship is what you present here. Again just another belief system that you are parroting from somewhere.

Can you do original 'search' and explore on your own?

The Consciousness is more fundamental than the physical world. If you don't 'believe' that then you cannot see it or experience it. The Mind has the amazing ability to censor that which does not fit in it's current belief system. So when you dogmatically

[onthecuttingedge2005]

sorry, I feel that I am hogging the posts, I'll step aside, My apologies for now.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Truth! the creative side of the brain that can tell a lie "Or" Logical side of the brain that can never tell a lie, you decide. you believe what you want, making the wrong decision will effect your life forever. when things come to worse for this world logic will be the only thing to save it. pray with all your spirituality for that Asteroid to be avoided, only with the proper logic will this world be saved. spirituality always gets in the way. spirituality will doom this world into extinction.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 I agree fundamentalism and 'blind belief' is a big problem on this planet. And that type of spirituality could 'doom the world into exctinction' But so could blind scientism, i.e. obviously with weapons of mass desctruction invented through clever 'scientims' I suggest that all are needed - the creative, logical, and MORE, spirit (essence, soul call it what you will) are necessary. You are no better than fundamental religionists, if you are proselytizing 'fundamental s

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 if you are proselytizing 'fundamental scientism / logic. You are on the same level as fanatical 'nut job' religionists. Which like I said before is why likely they trigger you and you projected that onto me - (basic psychological 'projection') I am not a fundamental religionist, but a real experimenter on what is, without shutting the doors i.e. being prejudices, pre judgin on energies that our current model of science has no clue about.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Although I am a strong Atheist, purely logical thinker, "If" I was to believe in a God then I would believe in a God of pure logic and not of creationism. creativity tells lies, I do not want lies in my world, period. so I'll remain with the pure nature of the multiverse for the Universe does not exist as pure fact, the Universe was invented by Georges Lemaître, a Belgian Roman Catholic priest. this was the driving force behind the invention of the big bang. GOD!

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 I respect your search for 'truth'. In your above statement you have preconceived notions of 'God'. What if you had a clean slate? what would that look like? I agree that multiverse is more accurate than Uni verse. But that's also a matter of definition and perspective i.e. the Universe could be what contains the multiple universes. An A theist is then a priori against an idea of a God yes? What about being an agnostic, 'I don't know....yet'. Or do you claim you 'know' all?

[onthecuttingedge2005]

I only believe in truth, period, your creative side does not sit well with me.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 'truth' is completely subjective. Stating that you believe in 'truth. period' is very dogmatic and illogical. You sound like the crowd that was standing on the shore and laughing at Fulton as he was showing the steam engine. Or Marconi's friends who wanted to have him checked for mental instability when he said that he could send information 'through the air' (Radio)...you are doing the same thing today to those who have ideas beyond your ability to understand, or scare you

[onthecuttingedge2005]

always remember, imagination is never truth until it is proven with a fact called logic, period. otherwise it is pure speculation and does not belong to science because science bases facts by the resolution of its observation. spirituality has absolutely no resolution because it is filled with nothing but invented hope. an empty hand, period, filled with nothing but the imagination of those long dead.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 Logic alone does not 'verify' things. Observation, experimentation are necessary imo. The problem arises with 'observation' since what we see is partially influenced by what we believe! This fact science must learn to deal with. And if the observed is affected by the observer that (logically) implies that whatever is 'observing' must be more fundamental than what is being observed. The physical world comes after, is at effect of that part of us that is observing.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

if you want to find free energy, it will be pure logic that finds it, period.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 spoken like a true 'believer' and dogmatist. Me thinks you sound just like a 'religionist' with your belief , which happen to involve your particular 'logic - scientism' system. No wonder you are angry at 'religionist' they reflect exactly what's inside you!

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 in your belief system and idea-ology. Imagination, and the creative side brings the 'new ideas' to the world - logic simply observes after the fact and tries to describe it or 'conclude' what's going on. I don't like a 'concluded' existance, I enjoy new things...and girls seem to like 'creativity' alot better than 'logic'.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Nature itself, on a natural basis uses a digestive system to perpetuate itself but life is not immortal therefore it is not perpetual, there is a saying, a man given a fish eats for a day but a man that was taught to fish eats for a life time. this is a key role but you simply need to perpetuate it. if that is possible. a self feeding system that lives forever, only then will it be perpetual. it consumes energy of one sort to make energy to its liking. stick with nature and leave out the farts.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

there are some circumstances in which a lie might save your life, for instance if Muslim terrorist say you are a christian but you said to them that you converted from Christianity to Muslim then this scenario might save your life but if religion didn't exist then you would not have to lie about it period. lies lies lies!

[onthecuttingedge2005]

it was not the dogma of Einstein that gave him popularity, it was his ability to plagiarize pattens given by other people for which he stole. he stole from other peoples ideas from the patten office. he just had a good memory and good mental retention, remember, he said a nuclear bomb wasn't possible. it would have to be to large to work, Einstein was a genius alright, a genius at trying to steal other peoples real work. Einstein was a fraud. a wolf hiding in sheep's clothing.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

umm, the logical side of the brain is the only side which contains truthful facts. when you tell the truth it is the logical side of the brain that is answering. not the creative.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 here you are actually saying what the religionists say i.e. 'the only truth' is our way!

you sound an awful lot like a 'logic - scientism' fundamentalist to me! 'the logical side of the brain is the only side which contains truthful facts.' hmmm? sound pretty dogmatic and self assured about 'we are the only right way'. Just replace logic with Jesus, Allah, etc in your statement and there you are - a 'science fundamentalist'

[onthecuttingedge2005]

the creative side of the brain and the logical side of the brain is like a devil sitting on one shoulder and an angel sitting on the other. the creative side of the brain is your devil and the logical side of the brain is your angel. one can make a lie even woven with truth and the other simply can not tell a lie, do you get it now? I hope you do.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 you're projecting that i'm some sort of 'religionist' , I'm not. Imiaginary 'angels' and 'devils' which is what you're talking about, has no place here. We are merging the left and the right hemispheres now, not being stuck in either one. Please explain the 'double slit experiment' to me as a logical result. If you can do that we can continue talking.You are 'parroting' a belief (that you were taught somewhere) about left and right brains. This is no different than

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 parroting religious dogma. You are doing the very thing you likely disdain in 'relgionists' . You are a 'scientist' and your ego enjoys the superior feeling vis a vis 'religionists'. This is one of the principles in the new awakening thought - we see what we have inside ourselves 'out there'. This is the conundrum for 'scientism' now, how to deal with the reflective universe. Please study the 'double slit experiment' and learn to accept paradox. Paradox is all around us.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 btw 'per say' is a non existent expression in the English language, you likely meant 'per se' from the Latin, meaning 'by or of itself'

[onthecuttingedge2005]

@tobiaslarsgunnar

I understand, everyone has their specialties but adding Spirituality to Logic is Dogma, the only truth that will prevail is Logic in of itself. I don't mean to pick on you but you started it by insulting science by adding in spirituality as the key role to all the answers. Spirituality will answer nothing, in fact it will only cause problems of extremism. Spirituality has been Plagiarizing Science since the beginning, it always will so spirituality seems more important.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 E= mc2 is completely 'illogical' & paradoxical i.e. energy and matter are interchangeable. The 'jekyll and hyde' nature of the electron as both a particle and a wave is completely 'illogical' & paradoxical, the 'double slit experiment' is completely illogical, paradoxical.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 Science has no idea what gravity or magnetism are (or for that matter electricity) we can describe their effects, but how they arise 'scientism' has no clue. So your 'space and time will not allow paradox' is completely untrue - paradox is all around us as described by 'scientism'. Careful you don't become exactly what you judge in others - Galileo vs. the Church is an old battle-better to find a synthesis now - that is my work. You're stuck in Newtonian stone age physics.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 'Logic side always tells the truth, only the creative side twists up the facts.' this statement of yours closely mimicks what 'religionist's i.e. blind followers of dogma say. It is simply a dogmatic mind idea (belief) . Einstein embraced his visionary/creative side and which is why he was not just a 'researcher' i.e. searching all over again without doing 'search' which is original. Eintstein did real 'search' not research. The true blindness is not seeing our 'beliefs'

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 and how they run us and the reality we perceive around us. 'Figures lie, and liars figure.' - Mark Twain - you know as well as I (if you're honest) that statistics is a game of coming up with numbers to fit what you want to find. Harvard used to teach a course called 'How to lie with Statistics'. Throwing away your creative side will make you a 'very dull boy' and a 'half spectrum' human. Of course we need BOTH the logical and creative.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Hi Again, there are two sides to the brain, the creative side and the logical side, when people pray to god the creative side of the brain is used, the logical side remains normal, did you know, the creative side of the brain is the only side that can tell a lie? the logical side can never tell a lie, if fact when a lie is told the logical side is quiet. so, just to voice my opinion about facts which I just mentioned, the creative side of your brain is just that, creative.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 you could also say that the creative side is the only side that has any 'imagination', and doesn't just think in grey. It depends on how you frame things. When Einstein rode the 'lightbeams' (his words) of imagination and came up with Relativity, he was 'lying' according to then current dogma of 'scientism'...of course later he was embraced and honored. That is the way of the slow, plodding, unimaginative 'scientism'. ...dare you guys mix some 'imagination' like he did?

[onthecuttingedge2005]

Tossed Salad. nothing more to say.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@onthecuttingedge2005 Positive and helpful! - why don't you take your 'scientism' and enjoy it with a 'tossed salad' with some of your equally myopic friends. Never ceases to amaze me how closed minded 'scientists' are.

But I did grow up in side it with a Nuclear physicist father and saw how emotionally stunted most 'scientists' really are. And therein lies the rub - we cannot circumvent the feeling/emotional aspect of Creation no matter how scared the little boys are of their real feelings.

[JacobAMunoz]

Nothing is free, nor should it be.

The irresponsibility behind the idea of free energy is that it gives us the impression that we deserve to be sloppy and negligent with our resources. We don't deserve free energy, nobody does. It implies that we don't (or won't) need to be responsible with our resources - that everything will just be done for us, or that we can be sustained by a massive lack of balance. "Unlimited power" is as backwards-thinking as religion... sorry.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@JacobAMunoz I understand your perspective - a good example of where most of humanity is - yes, unlimited power might mean abuses, cutting down all the trees, polluting everything etc. And that's my point here, the concsiousness/morality of humans has to advance before we would be safe with 'free energy' - like giving matches to 3 year olds. My work is to point some of this out and offer ways to actually evolve our selves.

[Ochn77]

ya know... people like me would work harder at making that box, but we're worried about people like you that can't wrap your 'awakened' mind around the Truth of God and Jesus. i very well understand the energy problem and all the other things that will be solved by free energy, that is already capable, but the problem is there'd just be more ease for you to sit on your a~~ all day 'awakening' while 1/2 the world is being taken care of my missionaries and humanitarians.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@Ochn77 The Jesus I know - I don't feel his Spirit in your comments - the spirit of your comments is anger, disdain, attacking, belittling - not the Jesus I know.

I noticed on your channel that your latest comments were on videos of young girls dressing and undressing - nothing wrong w/ that per se in my view - but maybe you'd enjoy those better than my videos since you commented favorably with winks and nods on those, and my videos seem to bring your anger and judgments- just a suggestion.

[Ochn77]

@tobiaslarsgunnar you're right, He's awesome. the real miracles i've seen of Him and His Father changed me forever. He only wants us to care about each other.

4 me not 2 tell you 2 stop messing with things you're not supposed 2, repent, pray instead of this mysticism stuff, and go actually do physical work with the homeless and destitute to ensure you have a RIGHT to happiness after death.

whether u like it or not...

Satan's real.

and just because i make a mistake, don't change that

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@Ochn77 Thank you - agree to care for each other - but you don't know the whole big picture - we all get pieces of the Whole as we're ready - so being in others business and telling them how they should approach God or what He is and should be to them is inappropriate and really against the Free Will that God created.

Of course Satan is real - he loves deceiving people - and one of his favorite things is to get people who 'love God' to work for him while they think they're working for God.

[Ochn77]

@tobiaslarsgunnar i personally think if you stopped trying to ready yourself and go feed some homeless people with everything you've got... you'd be already ready.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@Ochn77 we have, we do, wherever God's Spirit directs us to give. God doesn't always 'give'. Sometimes giving can be enabling and feeding addictions - my question is always inside my Being to God 'What would you have me do here.' that works all the time.

Blessings

Glad we can find common ground of Love for God.

[Ochn77]

@tobiaslarsgunnar but i don't presume to know how God's working in your life.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@Ochn77 completely agree, that feels good in my spirit. God has to work with us all individually. I see the adversary setting good people against each other - and sometimes in God's name. One of my heart wishes has always been to have us wake up from that becoming 'divided and conquered' scenario.

all the best my friend

[bibc14]

The 'Free energy' we should be working towards is renewable resources manufactured in large scale for home use. Then your 'home air conditioner' power supply could be a reality from solar panels and home wind turbines.  Do some research and figure out that magnetic engines are just parlor tricks and scam artists.

[bibc14]

Nobody is refusing to look through Galileo's telescope here. There is no conspiracy by the power companies.

There are plenty of scientists who are willing to examine data and claims of 'free energy', but when people claim they have created a free energy device, they refuse to let anyone test it in their own laboratories, which I am sure they would be eager to do if they really had succeed. Galileo was asking people to examine his research and prove him wrong, the 'free energy' folks hide it

[TedFnBuckle]

fuck off you scamming basterds idiots

[wikkk]

God bless you and your family Tobias !!!! Thank you for your message!!

[htomerif]

8kW? thats not nothing. Thats more than even most large households use for electricity on average.  that works out to over $400 a month here and our electricity is cheap. Its difficult to listen to any other arguments after such a glaring inaccuracy.

sorry if someone has already pointed this out.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@htomerif obviously that's not right - it must have been much less than that. It was the equivalent of running basic lightbulbs & TV as I recall. How about instead of being so negative and finding fault you try to help and correct. Otherwise you feel defeatist to me honestly. And I was never a scientist/ or even electrician in this lifettime. Do you enjoy being stuck with the 'current' oil based global economy and the planet being dependent on coal, oil, nuclear power?

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

@htomerif How about trying something positive and constructive to help the human race - instead of simply being a snide critic?

[daislor8675]

“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” Albert Einstein

[pansworldnews]

I am really interested in all of this!! You arrange trips? Är Du från Sverige eller?

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

Hej - (fran Sverige langesen)

yes we do trips see SpiriTravel on the web.

I'll put the link to the right in description.

[2ciella]

Thanks so much Tobias, for speaking about 'solution' instead of more talk on the 'problems' . . . and also, for letting out the Truth of how REAL CHANGE can and will happen, but, WE have to do OUR INNER WORK . . . the buck stops here with US !!! "Politics has to follow the Collective" . . . We are THAT !!!

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

I agree - present the 'problems' so we wake up - and also offer solutions, otherwise it becomes too negative, sad, heavy for our hearts.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

but u wouldnt need to resort to murder when u can simply have him discredited, framed, arrested etc. or change the science. I have seen where a scientist published papers yet someone else altered those publications. When the scientist was asked point blank on camera why did u publish that, he said those are not my statements, then asked, so someone changed it, he said yes. The scientist needs his job therefore must put up with this abuse, if he is discredited can never gain employment anywhere

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

Thank you for your wise comments - more and more of us are starting to wake up.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

So I ask people, If your entire generations before you passed down the family business & u were accustomed to living as a trillionaire yet u saw a single thorn, an inventor who's invention would collapse your entire empire then what would u do to maintain that empire?

You would know all of the most important people in the world & taking action would be as simple as saying I need a favor then would you do it? People murder to get millions, why wouldn't they murder to keep it?

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

There is a reason why the government controls the education, few realize they also manipulate the science & even the history books & really no different than Hitler's control over the same. The idea is to control thinking. Most of what you learn in school is true but very important sections are altered enough to keep you from exploring energy outside of the present energy structure because those wasteful structures create profits & tax $. The elite refuse to give up they're cash cows.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

People live in what I call bubbles of self created reality. You can walk down any city sidewalk or park and each individual is processing a different perception of reality in their minds. 1 person may be enjoying the clouds, the sun & the flowers, another may be watching out for muggers & rapists yet another may be suicidal & see's only a dark black planet full of demons & ugliness. It's amazing we function at all as any kind of civilized structure

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Nice vid.

Concerning being aware of the world around you.

People, I ask you. Have you ever bought a car then suddenly you become aware of all the models of the car you drive on the road? Something you never even focused on before.

1 day I decide I want dense shrubbery around my house for privacy, only then do I notice landscaping which I point out to my wife 11yrs in the same neighborhood she says, Hmm, I drive this every day for 11yrs & never noticed the landscaping.

[bobmcfadden1]

Take a high school physics book and read about energy conservation.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

And we are supposed to trust a 'high school physics book' the way religious programmed automatons believe their 'books'?

how is that different than religious 'book thumpers'?

'see it's written in THE BOOK' (therefore it has to be true?

therefore my point of 'scientism' being just another 'ism'.

I was on the inside of it.

please try to be truly non prejudiced - i.e. not have preprogrammed beliefs but a real spirit of willing to see, to research, to be open and truly investigate.

[bobmcfadden1]

OMG. Let's sate the obvious. Unlike religion, the info in physics books is verified by reproducible experiments. Need I say more?

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

'The Observer Effect', - The double slit experiment, wave/particle duality etc. look them up. Matter and energy interchange depending upon the OBSERVERS consciousness. Amit Gotswami theoretical nuclear physicist University of Oregon Institute for Theoretical Physics since 1968. Look his work up. Honest physicists now agree that consciousness is primary and affects our physical universe, not the other way around. Study the above and be truly 'scientific' meaning open to new theories

[leningrado8]

thats good stuff mon

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

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[ododidit]

Free energy would SOLVE too many problems, that is why the current corrupt bankers / elite will not let it see the light of day.

[Hopeful71]

Point me to patent or application that can create positive energy returns on splitting hydrogen from water

The guys who claimed to have created cold fusion later admitted their mistake in the wake of unrepeatable experiments

You need to release stored energy or convert one type of energy to electrical. This requires a source; be it solar, tidal, gravitational, etc, or even solar energy stored in hydrocarbons. Plenty sources are abundant & free but you still need to explain how to harness it

[lesotl]

I postulate this:

A planet populated/dominated by low IQ non telepathic races, will cease to be habitable once they discover atomic energy.

[lesotl]

THE awakening...

In order to PREVENT, you must act against.. THAT equals - violent revolution.. (or SOMETHING new, like in the X-Men if U have the neurons..) .

Because THEY took care to deplete the world population of smart-neurons and guns, a rev. from bottom to top will never happen.

That's why, our only chance to get through 2012 , could be "from A TOP" alias a "well intended leader".

[lesotl]

"Otherwise you are suggesting that we are 'the sheep' being led, told what to do by 'well intended' leaders." ???

But we ARE sheeps! 6 billiards stupid people (Except U , Me & few).

Humankind cannot lead itself - we are autodestructive. Our only happy days were when we were lead by the ET-aliens (titans, pharaons, quetzalquatal etc)

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

Yes, I agree many of us are 'asleep at the wheel' and need to 'be led'...but if enough of us wake up then that awake collective will prevent the 'stupidity' (unconsciousness) from acting out on our planet.

[lesotl]

Politics follows the colective???!!!

Did you (the colective..) wished a "patriotic act" or the 9/11 or chemtrails or H5N1 or on_your_water_fluorides or compulsory vaccines with mercury?

NO !

So, WE need, JUST some well intended LEADERS and the people will follow..

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

I'm suggesting our individual 'unconsciousness' added together as the collective unconsciousness ALLOWED the perpetrators of 9/11 to do what they did right under our noses.

Wanting "leaders" to 'Save' us is to some degree a wanting not to do the work ourselves- Save me so I don't have to work, participate, awaken my real Self.

[elenite396]

I loved this so much.

Youv'e hit the nail on the head.

Only 12 views ?

Does free energy have entertainment value. DOH !

Guess there must be a good talent show on TV.

[tobiaslarsgunnar]

We are pretty new with posting clips - this one 2 days ago -

Thanks for 'loving it so much'! - that is encouraging.

Share, Rate, let's get this info out there.

Will be doing a full hour on 'Free Energy' as well.