Air Travel Can Damage Your Health MASSIVE COVER UP !

[hoplite46]

The oxygen to recycled air especially during long flights can be as low as 20% Due to aircraft turn around time the filters of the a/c on board are not being cleaned. Its just too disgusting to think about

[michelesnoopy]

(Amounts of radiations on a flight from Japan to Bangkok: watch?v=LOCZSUxNy1o&feature=pl­ayer_embedded#at=45)

[007jacquie]

Wow, I'm really happy to see someone actually made a video about this, I fly a lot and not all flights however some of them almost seem unbareable to me with the smell in the plane and when I say something its just brushed off as it'll go away, Well it seems rather simple just get better filtration so everyone else can breath cleaner air. Beside all this have you seen the rash of planes dropping out of the sky lately?? due to magnetic pole shifts? Scalar Weaponary? BirdsDroping out of the Sky

[nickerlesstezla]

Watching this has affected my mental health without smelling a thing.

What would happen to 350 people herded into one of these cigar tubes if they all farted at once. I've heard that the "air" is re-cycled, so our lungs would be full of everyones intestinal gas. Surely this is more of a potential health risk than a leaking fukin oil seal.

Also, what about all these friggin Gamma Ray zigzags we get bombarded with during a thunderstorm! No mention of them in them shitty flight magazines EH!

[HumanSayNo]

Its chemtrails!

[Dre4dwolf]

They get the air for the cabin from the engines compressor? WTF ARE THEY THINKING 0o there should be a small dedicated compressor in the front of the plane.

You don't mix engine air and human air -_-.... there is no reason to place these two systems together.

[sakoshooter48]

@Dre4dwolf You need a good goddamn slapping. Did you know that modern jet fighters no longer have to carry LOX to service the pilots. The engine compressors direct compressed air to a catalytic converter which makes pure 02. What the matter with 'engine' air you idiot? Does it change from the inlet to the compressor blades? Is there magic happening and somehow the air is changed to mystical pixie farts. How else are you going to be able to breath at altitude?

[sakoshooter48]

@Dre4dwolf It taxes almost 4000hp to pressurize the cabine of a widebody at altitude, say for argument FL370. Cabin pressure altitude is kept at a comfortable 8.0 delta P so you wonderfully braindead urchins will keep breathing! This is why on long tranoceanic flights your rings are difficult to remove and your shoes are difficult to put on after you have removed them, normal pressure at sea level is 14.7/lbs/in . Where do you see this "small" air compressor with say 4000 hp coming from?

[Dre4dwolf]

@sakoshooter48 Gee wiz the airplane must have a lot of leaks if it has that much trouble holding pressure.

There are ways to rout engine power to a compressor that takes air in from another section of the plane, a small turbine under the rudder could doit, they could have the main engines run generators to power it.

Theres no reason to mix oil fumes and engine gasses (from the heat / friction / lubricants) with air that you intend to breath for 10 hours.

sure its not as efficient but its safer.

[sakoshooter48]

@Dre4dwolf Ok, so how the hell do you think this "other" small turbine engine under the rudder is going to pressurize the cabin. As I said before, you are arguing in a vacuum of ignorance and trying to sound like you know how a large transport aircraft works. The technology is just now coming online with the 787 where the entire ECS system is electrically driven, testing is ongoing at Boeing with the conventional engine bleed pressurization sytem standing by if the technology fails!

[sakoshooter48]

@sakoshooter48 Very seldomly do oil fumes get in the cabin of an airliner. Two causes to this event:1)Failed ACM bearing seal, result, small amount of turbine oil mixed into cabin air sytem, less than 1.5 ounces.2) Failed #2 main bearing garlock seal in the engine resulting in turbine oil getting into the bleed airsystem,result, contaminated coalescer bags and smell in cabin. The failed engine seal will require engine replacement, the ACM will also be replaced as is usually seizes the turbine!

[sakoshooter48]

@Dre4dwolf And the small turbine under the tail is the APU, affectionately known as the "puke." This small turbine produces compressed air for operating hydraulics and has two generators attached for auxiliary power. Some APU's are rated for flight, some are not! The APU's commonly power the aircraft while on the ground and also supply compressed air to power the ECS system (Environmental Control System). You are under the misconception that pressurizing an aircraft is easy, it is not!

[sakoshooter48]

@Dre4dwolf To give you an idea of how long it takes to pressurize a B747-422 let me give you some examples. The Teledyne APU of the -400 series is excellent, approx 1600 hp and capapble of producing almost 300cfs of airflow. Thats 40 psi inside of a 6" airduct running almost 400'. Thats up the fuselage, through the ECS sytem, and out to the wings through the isolation valves. Lots of air! On the ground, to get the aircraft to a differential pressure of 8.4 lbs over atmospheric, takes 20 min.

[sakoshooter48]

@Dre4dwolf To pressurize the entire aircraft with the four P&W 4056, takes a little less than 90 seconds, thought, HUGE airflow from the engine bleeds. The more bleed air you take from the engines, the higher the fuel burn. There are no "GIMME's" in aviation. EVERYTHING in a modern day airliner is a compromise, the technologies you do not see are astounding. Suffices to say, the bleed air/ECS sytem on a 747 is .......complex! If you have any questions, I would be happy to respond, nicely !

[firstwave2]

@sakoshooter48 What is it -does the gov. pay you to wast space on this page to try covering up the chemtrail program. All the b.s you spew out has nothing to do with what is really going on-most already know as to what you are doing unit.

[sakoshooter48]

@firstwave2 My penance for educating ignorant trolls like yourself!

[sakoshooter48]

Respond to this video...I would be most appreciative if you would show a modicum of knowledge on the issue as all you are doing is spewing, nothing to say but condescending remarks.  Talk about wasting space!

[Dre4dwolf]

Maybe there is more to this "Jet lag" thing than people think.

I always feel like shit when getting off a plane.

[sakoshooter48]

A "Chemtrail" WTF is a chemtrail. Is that similar to some ignorant hilbilly not knowing what a contrail is. I cannot believe what a culture of certifiable whack jobs we are becoming. Pretty soon we will all be walking again because of the idiots!

[Cerberus957]

@sakoshooter48 A chemitrail is a trail made by planes that is made of chemicals. Now I have an inside source that told me what a chemitrail is made of. It is made of a chemical called WATER. It condenses. (I'm not trying to insult you, I'm actually trying to insult every damn hillbilly conspirasist.)

[glennster66]

why not have seperate air intake for breathing air ? hmmm that might not fix the problem if the toxins arent coming from the engines ;

[houshidar558]

so why cant they put filtered this video says there isnt

[getanej1001]

haha he said cockpit

[Nachalnika]

SO THE PASSANGERS ARE NOT BEING POISONED LETS NOT CARE ABOUT  THE PASSANGERS !

[LithuanianLabas]

Bullshit.

[adrastea99]

Pesticides? WTF?

[TheLoonwolf]

Notice how this never seems to have happened in the decades of jet flight previously, and now they are saying the first reports about it started 11 years ago - just after the heavy worldwide chemtrails started to appear. Another "coincidence" to add to the pile. :)

[AerotoxicSyndrome]

Load more videos on this subject on my channel. Just click on my name. Thanks

[THINKINGFREEMAN]

Organophosphates ? The active ingredient in most insecticides. What happens to the organophosphate that doesn't go in the cabin ? How many planes are flying every which way across the sky ?

[ramusling]

Exactly - chemtrails or not... that is no "harmless" stuff falling on our heads from the thousands of planes every day.......

[sakoshooter48]

@ramusling Really, why don't you go place your overly intellectual lips over your cars exhaust pipe and suck like you own a set.  Maybe put all of us out of your misery! Your car is gallon for gallon 50 times more poisonous than exhausted gas from a turbine engine!

[canaan1967]

The real hazard is insecticides which are regularly sprayed in passenger cabins. It effects domestic and international flights. This video is avoiding the issue.

There is plenty of info on the subject of insecticides on airlines

Furthermore, passengers are at risk as well!.

[ZilverGalacticon]

This is just stupid and I WONT be surprised if it was a conspiracy, lol.

People intelligent enough to build a freaking 757!

Yet they cant squeeze some brain-juice into making a suitable HEATEXCHANGER.

Using wikipedia to check that out is not a stupid idea really.

[LibertyTreeBud]

The few times I flew in the 70's it was like waiting in a bus terminal. I knew then that the air was toxic and though nobody seemed to notice, I knew it was unhealthy. Your own DNA will communicate with you, if you can listen for it.

[Matey3]

damn!

I know I get sick flying all the times.I cant explain the sickness/feeling but it takes day b4 it goes away?

I know the idiots never air out the planes, they only rely on filters and recycle the same sick bacteria/virus-infested air over and over!?

all they had to do is to open both the back and front doors to the planes while cleaning. But the last report I saw indicated that they do not do that?

humanity owes itself to rid itself from all imposed stupidities, I can name 100s of them!

[sakoshooter48]

@Matey3 Do shut the fuck up! Passenger cabine air is constantly being recirculated through ozone generators, HEPA filters, and then out of the aircraft through the outflow valves. The air at altitude is effectively sterile as the ozone generators sterilize the incoming air so you stupid fucking passengers stay alive. If I ever find the engineer who solved that problem I'm so gonna kick his fucking ass!

[Matey3]

@sakoshooter48

umm and what do you know about anything? the way you sound I think you were born in a barn and raised in a zoo! or one of thpose 2! anyway far from aviation!

[sakoshooter48]

@Matey3 I love smarmy twits such as yourself who dodge the argument and then fidget and accuse when someone steps on your dick for saying something stupid. Yes, 25 years in the industry, Yes, VERY knowledgable about aircraft, especially Boeing 747's. As I stated previously, if you have anything to bring to the table, bring it, I wan't to hear it. I do not nor will I entertain new definitions for problems associated with the industry, i.e. "CHEMTRAILS", NO SUCH THING!

[Jargin9112]

Thx for the info, I would never of known!!

[bones228]

any excuse to keep ppl from flying!

[slowlyawakening]

We could easily stop using aircraft. Use of high speed, magnetic, vacuum tube trains could easily reach speeds of several thousand miles per hour.

[sakoshooter48]

@slowlyawakening Yes, in your drug addled world I'm sure the economics of MAGLEV travel have been completely worked out!!!!!

[SpotTheCaper]

what? now i have to swim to hawaii now?

[vikingscool]

use a cruise ship.

[ar5281ar]

@vikingscool, they do use ships for this atmospheric geo-engineering that's going on! they make "clouds" just as the jets! google: atmospheric geoengineering and all the patents they have for it! they even show how ships on the ocean do it!

[ejbh3160]

IMO the additives in aviation fuel & the very fuel we use for 'flying' is the problem.. but try telling people NOT to fly!

These additives also cause complex hydrocarbons to be created when burnt

Then H2O 'condenses' around the hydrocarbon particle creating chemtrails!

Also the chemical make up of the upper atmosphere is different & this only makes matters worse. Its like a new type of 'acid-rain'

& they 'dump' surplus fuel before landing which sprays a 'mist' of these chemicals on populations!

[icke11234]

However you should still draw a line between a. toxic fuel and b. arbitrary ADDITIONAL chemtrails that are nothing to do with the fule itself, although that in itself is intended to cause huge damage to life on earth!

[Airportchris2]

Actually, they don't dump fuel hardly anymore unless they are doing an emergency landing.

[icke11234]

Yeah right, and that's beside the point anyway...

[Airportchris2]

Ummm, yea, right!

Look, I am an aviation enthusiast, I think I know.

They don't just dump fuel for any old reason, they only dump fuel if they are horribly overweight for landing, be it an emergency landing. They also dump fuel on some transatlantic flights, if they are getting good fuel mileage, and they need to get rid of it, but they don't just say, well, let's dump some fuel here. The only place they can dump fuel is over the ocean, where it's safe, rather than over land, on people.

[ejbh3160]

ok so they fuel dump at 30,000 feet over the sea.. it still makes a 'mist' which travels on the jet-stream or whatever & still rains down on us

However my main point was about the additives to jet fuel which, when burnt, create complex hydro-carbons which in turn act as the 'seed particle' for H2O to attach itself to.. thus creating manmade 'chemical clouds' not just 'condensation-trails'

The chemical make up of the upper atmosphere is very different too, so its had unforseen effects.

[Airportchris2]

Yea, jet fuel is nothing more than kerosene, Grade Jet-A fuel is nothing more than kerosene, and people have kerosene lamps and heaters, burning them prolly more frequently than they fly.

Well, at average flight levels like 30,000 feet, etc. all aircraft that can fly that high will have contrails, depending on how cold it is at their level, but anything @ or above FL300, they are more than likely to have contrails.

[ejbh3160]

You say "nothing more than kerosene" but firstly kerosene is a fosil fuel made from crude

Its a complex hydrocarbon molecule & burning is just a 'chemical reaction' & what is created is nano-hydrocarbon 'soot particles'

These act as 'seeds' around which H2o (condensation) forms.. the chemical reaction between the hydrocarbons & the water creates 'acidic' particles which don't dissipate like condensation but grow into a 'pseudo-sirrus' clouds & spread out into a 'Haze' which 'dims' the sun

[Airportchris2]

Well, maybe so, but this video was about the bleed air from the air intake through the engines affect on passengers and crew, not the affects of burning jet fuel, and it's affects on the environment.

Also, once the new 787 is out later this year, and the 747-8, which is out sometime next year I believe, they are to be more fuel efficient, and like in the video, the intake air system is not through the engines anymore, so it will be safer for the passengers and crew inside.

[ejbh3160]

indeed I was trying to broaden the discussion.

:-)

Besides I'm one of those who got DVT after several long-haul flights... this was over a decade ago (before everyone knew about the links witth flying)

But did I get any 'compensation' from the airlines (who had known about the links for several years if not decades)... not a chance!

I'd imagine its much the same with this sort of 'poisoning... they've probably known about it for ages.

[Airportchris2]

deep vein thrombosis?

Well if it's caused as a result of the design of the aircraft, you must complain to the manufacturer, not the airline, of course you can still hold contempt for the airline, since they didn't speak about it, assuming they all knew themselves.

[Typamango]

Yea that's fine @Airportchris2 but what dictates the rate at which contrails dissapate, or is it normal for 2 contrails say, to sheet out across and fog half the viewable sky?

I've seen this happen alot in receint years and never pre- mid 90's for sure.

Thanks for info though.

[Airportchris2]

A contrail will always be short, because all it is hot air turning to vapor in the cold air, like steam, and steam goes away rather fast.

Here is a video that clearly shows the difference between the 2.

/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8

[sakoshooter48]

@ejbh3160 "Then H2O condenses around the hyrdrocarbon particle creating chemtrails!" For you information, there is NO SUCH THING as a CHEMTRAIL you ignorant fuck! The proper term is 'contrail' which in itself is a bastardization of the term condensation trail. Soot ejected from an aircraft engine allows water to coalesce around it and then it freezes, leaving the nice white trails we see in the sky!

[ejbh3160]

@sakoshooter48 ok Einstein.. & I suppose you think "soot" is all that is created when you burn kerosene?

Like all fosil fuels you get a mix of carbon monoxide, dioxide, sulpur dioxide & many other sulphates.. the 'chemistry' of the atmosphere is also different up there & when you mix all those gasses with H2O we get sulphuric acid, hydrochloric acid & other chemicals! We don't have Hydrogen jet engines yet which is the only thing that would make pure condensation trails

Try growing a brain FFS!

[sakoshooter48]

@ejbh3160 Try to quit fucking reinventing the wheel you silly smacktard! Quit trying to apply definitions to things that suit your stupid politics. A condensation trail is a condensation trail, scientifically that IS what it is. There is NO SUCH THING as a CHEMTRAIL. Try USING your brain. Please don't get into an argument with someone who has been working large jets for the last 25 years, you really are pathetically under equipped to compete!

[ejbh3160]

@sakoshooter48 yada yada yada listen buddy, someone who STARTS with insults like you did is just a Corporate shill in my opinion, so you ain't fooling no one with that bully boy language.

The cat is out the bag arguebot! You corporate trolls are so efin obvious with your BS! You even claim you've spent 25 years working on large jets! (cleaning toilets eh?) LOL! You think it somehow lends you 'credibility', when all it proves is you're a biased corporate shill. Drop dead sakoshitter48 we're done

[sakoshooter48]

@ejbh3160 Corporate shill?  Wow! I've finally made it! Cleaned a few blue rooms in my day and a myriad of other 'thing to do' on a jet. Like I said, you fucked up truthers run around like mindless lemmings worrying about the sky falling, really, it's not. If you could bring an intelligent discussion to the table and also your in depth experience in the industry I'd be happy to listen, otherwise, you are just another child beating his gums together!

[ejbh3160]

Burn jet fuel = kerosene (C12 H26) add condensation = water (H2O).

Now combine them Einsteine & then tell me it's just 'condensation.

If you can't even understand that fosil fuel pollution is complex hydro-carbon mollecules (chemicals), then you know jack about it bud.

But its obvious you know jack about it... you opened your mouth & started off with ad-hominem & then you compounded your stupidity by 'assuming' I'm some sort of 'truther' (whatever that is?)

Grow up & u might learn something!

[firstwave2]

@sakoshooter48 You sound like a locust caught in a paper bag ' .

[sakoshooter48]

@firstwave2 Really!? Kind of like both sides of your brain trying to ellucidate a coherent thought!

[firstwave2]

@sakoshooter48 Really -I had no idea a locust such as yourself even have the capability of coherent thought ' .

[sakoshooter48]

@firstwave2 If you could only bring something to the table to discuss my life would be complete. Alas, tripe and drivel is all I can hope for. If you have something intelligent to say or comment on about the operation of a large turbofan, the discussion is yours. If not, I would respectfully suggest (that really hurt me) that you bone up on the theory and operation of large turbofan engines, control, and accessories. Then, mosey on back to the table and we will chat. Chemtrails, OH GOD!

[seekYEthetruth]

CHEMTRAILS OF COURSE. The skies are totally ruined.

I trust we will soon get a GENUINE whistleblower from the airline industry to blow this open...

And if not .. then yeah, let 'em frikken choke..

This C4 bulletin is what's known as Camouflage By Limited Disclosure..

They just told us that their are chemicals up there.. coming out of planes.. Very clever tactic..

[icke11234]

The slipkot round the neck of chemtrail black projects is tightening...

5 *s and cheers from Germany.

We'll expose the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

[MsCread]

well this will keep some people "Grounded" which will benefit the climategate camp too!

[justseanmusic]

i already knew this :D

[puppetjaw]

Pollution from Chemtrails being induced through the engine intakes is what is causing the ingestion of poisons. Airline personnel are highly exposed to this pollution in our skies

[pieater53]

absolutely, correct.

[gp5]

@puppetjaw Chemtrails? Are you serious? I mean, seriously?

[puppetjaw]

@gp5

Why not? Do you deny chemtrails exist? Do you deny they are poisonous?

[sakoshooter48]

@gp5 Don't get them started, they are on a tangent! I'm with you, Chemtrails, WTF??!?!?!?!?!?!?

[odin422]

BOUT TIME THIS GOT OUT!

[CJCA915]

I love the Boeing 787, not because of the new way air will be brung into the cabin, rather than through the bleed air system in the engine, on all other aircraft, but the design, it looks so cool, plus it will be quiet-er on the inside, can't say much for the outside, lol.

[Airportchris2]

Well, let's go back to the early 20th century, and use boats for overseas travel, sure it will take a few days, intead of hours, but hey, it's safer.

lol, my dad's worked around aircraft for 30+ years, and flown since who knows, and he has no health problems from jet fuel fumes, etc.

His health problems are a result of him smoking dumbass cigarettes.

[icke11234]

Completely agree. With body scanners, chemtrails, and poisoned avgas, it's high time every human inhabitant of this planet started boycoting civil aviation, until civil aviation becomes a civil undertaking again - run by civilians for civilians!

[Airportchris2]

Well, my comment about going back to the 20th century, was sarcasm.

The rest is true.

[AnotherBrotherMark]

This is great and once again top notch stuff, but please don't be discouraged from bringing all topic areas you have become so good at being informative about.

Thanks,

ABM

[AnotherBrotherMark]

ps - I am still in Scotland.

[azis1100]

4,000 flight hrs here...

I'm fine.

[icke11234]

Just you wait...

[Montreal1953]

I totally agree with you all, this is caused by chemtrails. They cover up that Earth's atmosphere is becoming a "gas chamber"...

[beltanebabe55]

Brilliant 91177info, this is more like it. This is the reason I am subbed to you. Not to hear about American political conspiracies. This is the stuff you excell at and I think even though chemtrails ARE an issue we need to address this is not the same issue. The toxic element they are talking about here is the same one that has poisoned farmers and people who keep sheep and was a big issue in the Highlands of Scotland when I lived there. Keep it up. 5*s and faved.

[icke11234]

It seems not only Scotland is affected, please read the following link: mysteriousnewzealand.(c o.n z)/chemtrails/chemtrailsbettyr­owe.(h t m l)

[UkTruthSeeker2009]

Chemtrails are done world wide . Birmingham & London hardly get a days rest from the Toxic skies

[icke11234]

I can absolutely confirm this for East Germany. Day in, day out, and all night long here too. Insane. The link specifically refers to sheep farmers though, who it seems have been subjected to particular tough toxic spraying experiments.

[UkTruthSeeker2009]

Why would they use such chemicals on airplanes ? Nerve gas, brain damaging chemicals?

[icke11234]

soft-kill genocide... to cull us...

[beltanebabe55]

Hi icke11234, Up untill September 2007 I lived in the Highlands 100 miles NW of Inverness. In the 12 years I lived there I never saw a single chemtrail and as I took my camera with me everywhere I went and spent hours in boats on Lochs photographing the brilliant scenery and one of the striking features of that was the sky...believe me I would have noticed. Inverness has an Airport, loads of military jets fly over the remote Highlands also, So I find it strange, not enough people Perhaps?

[finefilth]

its the chems they are forced to breathe... doesn't take a genius to figure it out

[mikemb123]

they are turning our planet into "gas chamber" so I hope they choke on this stuff

this is a great story!!!

[finefilth]

@mikemb123

LOL!!

look at those chem-sludge clouds at 1:06 LOL i hope they choke too!!

[seekYEthetruth]

@finefilth Too right!!  Look at the state of the sky!!..

This is about militarized aerial spraying.. CHEMTRAILS.

Why else would the pilots be scared to show their faces?

Maybe soon a Commercial pilot will step up to the plate and blow the whistle.. If not then yeah.. Let 'em frikkin choke..

The sky is full of sub micron shit and they KNOW it.

[UkTruthSeeker2009]

Why are they saying engine oil? To cover up the truth that its realy the TOXICS they are spraying up in our skies? Is that why the Government are down playing it ,ignoring it wont make the problem go away . They know they are spraying they know its not oil , oil as been used for many years . Why are none of these pilots speaking up ,Why are they saying they are scared of loosing their jobs if they do.They have a lot of people in the world to back them up !

[Airportchris2]

Umm, they explain exactly how the air for the cabin is received.

It's called bleed air, which the valve is open during flight to allow extra air into the cabin to recycle the air, so it doesn't become stale air, and if an engine or engines fail, it's supposed to become closed by the cockpit crew, to allow maximum air for the engine to restart, because it's hard to start a jet engine at 35,000 feet, the air is to thin.

That's about the only time it would need to be closed.