I don't know anything about Swinburne but I am gona bet by the time I finish this I will be totally disapointed. It has the STRING whiff of right wing bigotry about it. The right KNOW BEFORE ALL EVIDENCE they are right even when everything they claimed has been shot down. Then a new kid on the block comes along and they all rally around it - its just that in that intervening period WHEN THY HAD NOTHING - they STILL clung to their bigotry - their like it on EVERYTHING, global warming, evolution,
@StunnedByStupidity God, free markets, human nature, selfishness - you name it their insanity gets shot to piece and instead of being RATIONAL, THEY JUST DOUBLE DOWN. Go google 'The Authoritarians' for 4 decades of scientific research into the nasty, bigoted, illogical , fascistic right wing mind....
*Have just re read first post (and the right wing will gladly take spelling/grammar errors as a win if they cant argue back) so that's STRONG - NOT STRING - THEY not THY and they're not their
Is it true that Richard Swinburne said , ' The holocaust gave the Jews a wonderful opportunity to be courageous & noble ' ( see Dawkins ' The God delusion' p89), Is it true that in Swinburne's book ' The existence of God ' p 264 he wrote, " Suppose that one less person had been burnt by the Hiroshima atomic bomb. Then there would have been less opportunity for courage and sympathy."
For truth about religion try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life ', also Richard Dawkins, PZ Meyers, Peter Atkins, Daniel Dennett, Victor J. Stenger, Michael Shermer, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Dan Barker, John W. Loftus, Valerie Tarico, David Mills, Ken Humphreys, Truth-savescom, Talkorigins, read about chromosome 2-which is two joined into one leaving- humans with 23 Chromosomes compared to other primates 24,
I just got done talking to Richard Swinburne through email. What a humble man for being willing to talk to a 1st year philosophy student from the states.
Thank you so much for posting this. Despite some of the churlish comments here,Swinburne presents his case well- even if one decides to reject it.
One little trivial gripe- why have different camera angles. I mean, he's a philosopher saying philosophical things. Put one camera on him and don't move it until he finishes talking.
I've been reading Richard Swinburne's 'Is There a God?' for a philosophy of religion class and I've had to grit my teeth the entire time. I find problems with all of his arguments to the point of me wondering how anyone can take this man srsly. I'm sure he elaborates on his positions in greater detail in his other books but I find it hard to believe he can add substantially to the arguments he gives and I would never choose to read anything this man pens (my teeth wouldn't be able to take it).
@SpazzyMcGee1337 This post really reads like propaganda. The faux incredulity that anyone could ever think or believe or argue the way Swinburne does makes you grit your teeth in amazement that anyone could be so foolish to see things the way he does? Couple of things: I really don't think you read any of his work. And the sneering nature in which you do respond to his book is much more like sophistry than honest intellectual inquiry.
@jorgekluney Obviously you are trying to insult me jorgekluney in order to defend the honor of your favorite philosopher. You don't need to. I didn't even give any arguments, just my opinion. You had nothing to argue against, which is why your post amounts to "ur stupid" and nothing more. Maybe if you were a little more accepting of other people's view points you wouldn't jump into arguments when there is nothing to argue against.
he also said the jews needed the holocaust to happen for the rest of the world and the jews to know suffering, to appreciate and value lives more, WTF................................................... This man is a Cunt!!
one of gods boys!!
i had a comment deleted on here before telling the same thing, so they all love him it seems here, but maybe they should read some of the things there hero has said before deleting true things this EVIL prick has said!!!
this bloke is a complete prick, he said, during a debate, that the jews needed the holocaust to happen so it would help others and them, what a CUNT!!!
he will go to hell if it exists, which i highly fucking doubt, cock!!!
I was made to believe that there was no place for God in contemporary analytic philosophy. How ill was I. I then realised that there are as many philosophies as there are philosophers. I can have God and the world and I lose nothing. Faith and Reason are sybiotic.
As stated in Pacal's wager, you gain more by believing in God, whether He exists or not. As for the many different philosophies, some believe they are like pieces of a jigsaw that all fit together, they require each other to be complete. As with religions, they do not work alone, but with a cumulative argument become one religion, "one God"
Except for when religions are contradictory. Also you only gain more by believing in god by granting the assumption that believing in god brings "more" to your existence. Meaning that every doctrine with specific contradicting gods to the one you believe in that also happens to say, not believing in their god brings you to hell or something of the like are equally valid. You're simply taking a lottery ticket that can easily bring you into damning ramifications. pascal=dumb.
Oh what a riveting intellectual response, just what I'd expect from an internet theist! The way you demonstrate my lack of understanding of pascal's wager and the way you support your claim that pascal's wager isn't like a "lottery ticket game." I believe it's safe to say you have no trouble fending of the fiendish internet atheists! Brilliant response really, just brilliant.
@Raffzeee I would argue Faith and Reason and antonymous. Faith is the distinct lack of Reason; Reason is constructed so that we may rely on something other than Faith.
I don't think there is 'no room for God' in contemporary analytic philosophy, but I do feel we might be held back by apologists. And I am no atheist; in my opinion undivided subscription to any school of thought is unintelligent.
That said, I do find consolation in the fact that there are Christians asking questions.
Faith is only understood as the "distinct lack of reason" by enlightenment philosophers who didn't understand (nor cared to check) how faith was understood in Christianity historically.
"undivided subscription to any school of thought"? I don't think you mean that. If God were to directly and unambiguously come to you and tell you some fact, would you still maintain your wavering view? That full subscription is unintelligent.
@jorgekluney If God were to directly and unambiguously come to you and tell you some fact, would you still maintain your wavering view? That full subscription is unintelligent.
- how would you know it's a god though?, this is not unintelligent.. it could be a higher level of extraterrestrial intelligence.. and your assumptions are wrong.
i don't think we'd be able to tell the difference between a god and an alien.. or even something using advanced technology, humans are tricked quite easily.
I heard him talk at the Durham Union- he is a very intimidating thinker. I agree, post more Swinburne - a religious philosopher of religion I can respect.
I think his discussion of the effects of cutting a brain in half and putting it into two different bodies in order to ponder the existence of mental properties is one of the most trippy things I've ever read!
It doesn't matter if "God" exists or not, why would we worship such a useless or evil creature anyway?
Thesortvokter 2 weeks ago
I don't know anything about Swinburne but I am gona bet by the time I finish this I will be totally disapointed. It has the STRING whiff of right wing bigotry about it. The right KNOW BEFORE ALL EVIDENCE they are right even when everything they claimed has been shot down. Then a new kid on the block comes along and they all rally around it - its just that in that intervening period WHEN THY HAD NOTHING - they STILL clung to their bigotry - their like it on EVERYTHING, global warming, evolution,
StunnedByStupidity 2 months ago
@StunnedByStupidity God, free markets, human nature, selfishness - you name it their insanity gets shot to piece and instead of being RATIONAL, THEY JUST DOUBLE DOWN. Go google 'The Authoritarians' for 4 decades of scientific research into the nasty, bigoted, illogical , fascistic right wing mind....
*Have just re read first post (and the right wing will gladly take spelling/grammar errors as a win if they cant argue back) so that's STRONG - NOT STRING - THEY not THY and they're not their
StunnedByStupidity 2 months ago
I wish all people were as senile as swinburne.
giorgiv18 3 months ago
This man shouldnt be called philosopher. Atleast a minor scent of intelligence should be a requirement for that title
TheAllien111 3 months ago
Is it true that Richard Swinburne said , ' The holocaust gave the Jews a wonderful opportunity to be courageous & noble ' ( see Dawkins ' The God delusion' p89), Is it true that in Swinburne's book ' The existence of God ' p 264 he wrote, " Suppose that one less person had been burnt by the Hiroshima atomic bomb. Then there would have been less opportunity for courage and sympathy."
zytigon 4 months ago
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For truth about religion try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life ', also Richard Dawkins, PZ Meyers, Peter Atkins, Daniel Dennett, Victor J. Stenger, Michael Shermer, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Dan Barker, John W. Loftus, Valerie Tarico, David Mills, Ken Humphreys, Truth-savescom, Talkorigins, read about chromosome 2-which is two joined into one leaving- humans with 23 Chromosomes compared to other primates 24,
zytigon 4 months ago
Richard Swinburne, one the great minds of century.
Logosapologetica 5 months ago
I just got done talking to Richard Swinburne through email. What a humble man for being willing to talk to a 1st year philosophy student from the states.
BraunBrothers 5 months ago 4
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BraunBrothers 5 months ago
@SoldierOfLight1 no
Freethinker12341 6 months ago
@SoldierOfLight1 buts its true, Swinburne is a walking satire lol. he is laughably satirical
Freethinker12341 6 months ago
Thank you so much for posting this. Despite some of the churlish comments here,Swinburne presents his case well- even if one decides to reject it.
One little trivial gripe- why have different camera angles. I mean, he's a philosopher saying philosophical things. Put one camera on him and don't move it until he finishes talking.
written12 7 months ago
Richard Swinburne is beyond satire
Freethinker12341 7 months ago
There's reasonable evidence for God!? Blimey! I can't wait to see parts 2-5.
mooxim 11 months ago
I've been reading Richard Swinburne's 'Is There a God?' for a philosophy of religion class and I've had to grit my teeth the entire time. I find problems with all of his arguments to the point of me wondering how anyone can take this man srsly. I'm sure he elaborates on his positions in greater detail in his other books but I find it hard to believe he can add substantially to the arguments he gives and I would never choose to read anything this man pens (my teeth wouldn't be able to take it).
SpazzyMcGee1337 1 year ago
@SpazzyMcGee1337 This post really reads like propaganda. The faux incredulity that anyone could ever think or believe or argue the way Swinburne does makes you grit your teeth in amazement that anyone could be so foolish to see things the way he does? Couple of things: I really don't think you read any of his work. And the sneering nature in which you do respond to his book is much more like sophistry than honest intellectual inquiry.
jorgekluney 1 year ago
@jorgekluney Obviously you are trying to insult me jorgekluney in order to defend the honor of your favorite philosopher. You don't need to. I didn't even give any arguments, just my opinion. You had nothing to argue against, which is why your post amounts to "ur stupid" and nothing more. Maybe if you were a little more accepting of other people's view points you wouldn't jump into arguments when there is nothing to argue against.
SpazzyMcGee1337 1 year ago
@jorgekluney why?.. because he's not kissing his feet?.. why can't he criticise the man?, is swinburne a deity?
lukeism2 1 year ago
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SpazzyMcGee1337 1 year ago
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"Probably there is a god"? Based on what method exactly?
mikemurko 1 year ago
richard has the most awesome voice. i would love to have his accent. oh another note. he is totally awesome.
apollominor 1 year ago 2
i want a dawkins/swinburne face off, russell and copleston styley.
emmaiselectrifying 1 year ago
this is a real swinburne quote from his book, 'the existence of god':
"Suppose one less person had been burnt by the hiroshimaatomic bomb. There would have been less oppurtunity for courage and sympathy..."
What a fucking twat
hazaowl 1 year ago
he also said the jews needed the holocaust to happen for the rest of the world and the jews to know suffering, to appreciate and value lives more, WTF................................................... This man is a Cunt!!
one of gods boys!!
i had a comment deleted on here before telling the same thing, so they all love him it seems here, but maybe they should read some of the things there hero has said before deleting true things this EVIL prick has said!!!
BeaSkin 1 year ago
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this bloke is a complete prick, he said, during a debate, that the jews needed the holocaust to happen so it would help others and them, what a CUNT!!!
he will go to hell if it exists, which i highly fucking doubt, cock!!!
shadoodadoo 2 years ago
Swinburne FTW
AbdielAbiram 2 years ago 7
Swinburne is so cool!
TheEcumenator 2 years ago 20
I was made to believe that there was no place for God in contemporary analytic philosophy. How ill was I. I then realised that there are as many philosophies as there are philosophers. I can have God and the world and I lose nothing. Faith and Reason are sybiotic.
Raffzeee 2 years ago 34
As stated in Pacal's wager, you gain more by believing in God, whether He exists or not. As for the many different philosophies, some believe they are like pieces of a jigsaw that all fit together, they require each other to be complete. As with religions, they do not work alone, but with a cumulative argument become one religion, "one God"
RichardSwinburne 2 years ago
@RichardSwinburne
Except for when religions are contradictory. Also you only gain more by believing in god by granting the assumption that believing in god brings "more" to your existence. Meaning that every doctrine with specific contradicting gods to the one you believe in that also happens to say, not believing in their god brings you to hell or something of the like are equally valid. You're simply taking a lottery ticket that can easily bring you into damning ramifications. pascal=dumb.
socrstreets 1 year ago
@socrstreets Anyone who equates Pascal's statement in Pensees as being a "lottery ticket approach" to believing in God is dumb.
There are well to many internet atheists responding to the content of videos in which they have no clue as to what they are saying.
jorgekluney 1 year ago
@jorgekluney
Oh what a riveting intellectual response, just what I'd expect from an internet theist! The way you demonstrate my lack of understanding of pascal's wager and the way you support your claim that pascal's wager isn't like a "lottery ticket game." I believe it's safe to say you have no trouble fending of the fiendish internet atheists! Brilliant response really, just brilliant.
socrstreets 1 year ago
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markchanggz 1 year ago
@Raffzeee I would argue Faith and Reason and antonymous. Faith is the distinct lack of Reason; Reason is constructed so that we may rely on something other than Faith.
I don't think there is 'no room for God' in contemporary analytic philosophy, but I do feel we might be held back by apologists. And I am no atheist; in my opinion undivided subscription to any school of thought is unintelligent.
That said, I do find consolation in the fact that there are Christians asking questions.
tastethepain28 1 year ago
Faith is only understood as the "distinct lack of reason" by enlightenment philosophers who didn't understand (nor cared to check) how faith was understood in Christianity historically.
"undivided subscription to any school of thought"? I don't think you mean that. If God were to directly and unambiguously come to you and tell you some fact, would you still maintain your wavering view? That full subscription is unintelligent.
jorgekluney 1 year ago
@jorgekluney but, how would you know that it's a god?..
lukeism2 1 year ago
@lukeism2 You maintain a level of skepticism that I would bet you only hold so strongly to matters of the supernatural.
jorgekluney 1 year ago
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@jorgekluney If God were to directly and unambiguously come to you and tell you some fact, would you still maintain your wavering view? That full subscription is unintelligent.
- how would you know it's a god though?, this is not unintelligent.. it could be a higher level of extraterrestrial intelligence.. and your assumptions are wrong.
i don't think we'd be able to tell the difference between a god and an alien.. or even something using advanced technology, humans are tricked quite easily.
lukeism2 1 year ago
I love how the interviewer is wearing shorts. Shorts!
lystellion 2 years ago 4
I heard him talk at the Durham Union- he is a very intimidating thinker. I agree, post more Swinburne - a religious philosopher of religion I can respect.
sewercorpse 2 years ago 7
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Tredoslop 2 years ago
I think his discussion of the effects of cutting a brain in half and putting it into two different bodies in order to ponder the existence of mental properties is one of the most trippy things I've ever read!
wittenbergdoor 2 years ago 6
Writing a paper on Swinburne right now.
This is helping :) Thank you
xkuassix 2 years ago 4
Please post more Swinburne
grandconjunct 3 years ago 6