7MGTE on an AE86 Corolla GTS

[NismoDJ20]

Some guy in my part of Ohio has this swap and this looks like his car.

[Sonicku]

wow someone finally did it! 7M on 86

[nleboe]

7M's are garbage... (putting flame suit on)

[Lkjbl]

@nleboe lol ya right

[KyleKatastrofee]

sick!

[Boostedstr8six]

I'd be really interested in seeing how this combo worked. I've owned multiple ae86s and currently have an 88 ma70. I think you'd want to swap out the rear end for something stronger...maybe something from a toyota pickup or 4Runner.

[CoryinFerndale]

Finally, a 7m in a car that you can actually reach the engine without throwing out your back! lol.

[Bokerk26]

get rid of the 7m nothing but trouble

[oscarlithgow]

that's a pice of shit engine.. i bet it broke down already

[CoryinFerndale]

@oscarlithgow Hahaha, 7m's with minor headwork can support massive numbers without even touching internals.. fuckin loser.

[drgnzadiel101]

can that frame even handle that motor?

[M1911A1]

@drgnzadiel101 I'd like to know that as well. You have a engine that can make 400whp on a bad day, in a ~2000lbs car that was meant for ~95whp. Might want to look into chassis bracing.

I'm looking into swapping a 7M into my FWD '85 AE82 Corolla. I plan on using a 240SX rear subframe and a Miata front subfame.

[Frillar]

this is good engine to put in ae86 if all you want to do is go fast in straight line.

good luckk taking it around corners.

[ninjdiver36]

That is correct- 72 ft-lbs, not the OEM spec of 54ft-lbs. And NOT the above-mentioned 82ft-lbs, unless they are ARP head studs.

[ninjdiver36]

Yes, you are correct- As stated previously in this post, the factory torque spec was too low- 54 ft-lbs. However- i would only take OEM bolts up to 72 ft-lbs, as they start to yield much beyond that. I am assuming the previous poster was mentioning 82 ft-lbs for the ARP head studs, as that is close to ARP's recommendation.

[cvdub66]

I have heard that if you increase the torque on the head bolts there is less problems with the headgasket blowing. correct me if im wrong

[Jak3Mac]

I don't see the point of putting the 7M in any car. Its not a very good engine. Besides weighing a ton, they have persistent problems with the head gaskets. Why not just swap a 1J?

BTW, although this swap isn't extremely common, it has been done. I know of two Hachi's close by to me with 7MGTE's taken from MK III Supras.

[M3TurboE46]

I used to own an MK3 supra with a 7M and that engine is a beast......why go with the smaller 1J it has less potential and you really start to notice this when you start modding the engine......and they only have problems with the head gasket bc of the idiots that own the car.....I put down over 550RWHP in my 7M with an OEM head gasket and it never blew once bc unlike most people I knew what I was doing

[Jak3Mac]

I guess its the choice of the owner. I just know I wouldn't use the 7M. I'd go with the 1J. Maybe it make as much power, but Hachi doesn't need that much; its a small car.

I just helped my friend swap a 1J in his 86. He was going for a 7M, but his friend was having trouble with his. And he has quite a bit of experience.

[mikethedick]

Dude you are dumb, the 7m is far better than the 1jz engine, 1jz's are very limited, why do you think people who have 1jz's need to make it a 1.5 liter, which is a 1jz head on a 2jz block, its because 1jz's dont have the pontential in the bottom end there buddy. 7m's have boatloads of torque, thanks to the longer stroke. The only reason people swap a 1jz into mk3's is because they "think" its better, when 1jz's are very limited.

[Jak3Mac]

It depends on what your looking for in an engine dick.

[mikethedick]

No trust me I have had a 1jz before in my soarer, they are limited compared to the 7m. Plus why spend 9k on a 1jz setup that puts out 400rwhp vs. a 2jz for 12k that will triple that, and is more reliable than the 1jz's design.

[Jak3Mac]

Depends on what you looking for...

BTW 7M has problems with he headgaskets. Design flaw. Poor design on Toyotas part.

[mikethedick]

It isn't a design flaw idiot, the factory torque specs are wrong, just torque the head to 82 foot pounds, and they are fine. Might I add you seem to not know dick about what you are talking about, so until you actually have the time, and money to put into a supra, don't cut down on the car. You are very ill-informed about 7m's, most people don't know what they are doing with them, so they blame the car, the manufacturer.

[Jak3Mac]

Whatever you say dick.

[supraguy7M]

Who's dumb?

A 1JZ head on a 2JZ block does NOT create a 1.5 liter engine- a 1.5JZ refers to the fact that it's 1J+2J- AKA 1.5J- it has nothing to do with it's displacement. A1.5JZTE is 3.0 liters. A 7M is a better torque engine due to it's oversquare design, but that long rod throw is also a potential weakness, and sacrifices high rpm compared to a 1J or 2J.

[mexinuggetsanyone]

to add to my other comment about the 1.5L engine ha... engine rpm is almost irrelevent when building turbo cars. because the better parts you have on the car the lower your peak power is and also the greater your peak power is. for example putting an equal length header on a 7m with increase exhaust flow efficiency improving engine breathing, a ball bearing turbo even if it's bigger then a 70 trim will still be capable of full boost in low rpms, there for max HP and torque is generated sooner

[mikethedick]

Oh hey idiot, I know the 1jz is a 2.5 I own a 1jz, 2jz, and a 7m. I was stating the 1.5jz mix of 2jz, and 1jz engine parts.

[mexinuggetsanyone]

no you specifically said a 1.5LITER like a big stupid idiot... and all i see is a swapped supra on your vids nothing about a 1 or 2j. and i never said i wanted a vvt jz... so who's the idiot. i was simply stating that a 7m is lighter then either of the other 1j's...

[mexinuggetsanyone]

hahah you're an idiot haha. i agree that the 7m is far superior to the 1j but you think a 1j is a 1.0L engine?! you're stupid my friend. maybe you should know what you're talking about before you embarass other supra owners. 1j's are 2.5L engines... and to anyone else who thinks that a 1j is better because it weighs less because it's a smaller engine is stupid. both the twin turbo and the single turbo vvti 1j's are HEAVIER then the 7m.

[mikethedick]

vvti jz's suck, your are an idiot if you want one.

[mkIIIsupras]

the 7M is a stroked 2.8L thats why it has the longer stroke. much rather keep the 7M over the 1JZ anyday of the week.

[ljames270383]

@mkIIIsupras ah sorry mate its a 3lt single turbo 24 valve 2.8 is from the older supra\celicas

[mkIIIsupras]

obviously ur the one with the lack of knowledge. yes its a 3 liter but it started out as 2.8L. they put a bigger stroke in the engine so therefore making it a 3L. Dont have to tell me about the 7m. I own and have built a few.

[da7nesman]

unheard of? NOT! i personally know three ppl in south florida with 7M motors in their corollas.

[CyFi6]

your intercooler is bigger than your radiator lol

[SuperAsian360]

that crazy shit

must spin like crazy

[K3N51NGTON]

not first, i like the JDM stick, haha, jk

[angelbabiedust24]

thats goin in my spank bank!

[carlosr428]

thats sweet man! it shoulda came like that off the showroom

[RyukoTR]

cool now that you have killed the balance with a heavy ass motor what are your next plans?

[CrewofMaltby]

That and cutting the shite out of the radiator support

[mk37mgte]

nice work cholos.

[Fullmetal408]

by using a 7m-gte engine. I was wondering what did you have to replace on the ae86? So it could handle the power.

[GWprojects]

you have to get the frame reinforced, you need a supra rear end, you might have to cut the firewall and move it back or move the radiator to the trunk, custom mounts and mounting locations, custom cross member and tranny tunnel...i think thats it. I'd rather go with the 20b rotary, but thats just me

[34SkiLLz14Luck]

thats false it has the same heads as the 4A-GE setup. you dont have to move the radiator NOTHING, you dont even have to reinforce the rear end, you need to do full blown suspension, get sway bars, strut stiffeners tower bars blah, and roll cage it to reinforce the chassis

[D7mSupra]

my brother and i have been considering doing something along these lines for a while. have the motor and trans already. we were thinking about using a different oil pan instead of changing the subframe. id definately like to know more about what u did to get the motor to fit.

[subsonicbassist]

Excellent. Power, looks and drenched with cool factor. I'm working an a 82 22R Celica right now. Anybody know of a good way to increase power? I like carbs so I don't think I want to switch to EFI. Maybe motor swap? If so, which motor should I use or just build my 22R? Anyway, enough about me. Awesome car. I hope this thing is hitting the streets hard right now!

[RyukoTR]

check out paradise racing. they sell stuff for the 22R. cams n such

[trd03]

se ve muy bien el ese ae86 yo etoy armando uno de eso con el mismo motor 7m gte desde q lo termine subire el video

[CorvetteKilla]

say goodbye traction

[tenkuunokage]

its on a 198? 'rolla? by the way engine came out faulty

[Supraholics]

Check your valve cover gaskets. Also check the spark plug oil galley gasket.

[dattrigga]

i have a mkiii 7MGTE. i dont knw why but, my spark plugs become drenched with oil when i start my car up... can anyone help!?? i dont wanna sell it... :(

[paradox616]

LOL you can just feel the torque? listen to that idle!? its off boost.. just a 3L :P ( i own a 7mgte too btw lol )

looks like fun

[jpedlow]

Wow.

I'm presuming a LOAD of cutting/welding.

Is there more videos of this?

Does it fit under the hood without problems?

That's a ton of power for that car but thats awesome!

[Supraholics]

We had to make a custom piece to lower the subframe. The only cutting beyond that was the rad support. It was needed to install the rad and the intercooler.

[jpedlow]

That's awesome! Well I dont know if you have more pictures of the install or anything, but my 86's been sitting for 6 months, and my friend just wrecked his supra with forged internals....sounds like a match made in heaven, if you happened to have more pics/video, you'd be my hero! :)

[niikodas]

i use to hav a 81 celica liftback and a 83 supra ( dam i miss

those cars ) but don't forget to up grade your suspension and shock package from a supra to handle the weight and the torque.

[McDrift256]

did you guys do any mods on the firewall?? anyway, I have a 4th gen celica GT (AT160)and im planning to do a 20v 4age or a 3S-GTE swap by myself. Do i have to make any mods on motor mounts etc...

[eeseiska]

Nice swap :) . I will put 2m-ge hybrid (2300cc 2m-engine+7m-ge head) into my ´83 ke70 corolla.

[Supraholics]

Interesting. Any reason why you're using the 2M? Is quite an old design and it seems to me you're going the N/A way.

[eeseiska]

becouse 7mge it not legal in ke70 corolla here finland. Too big displacement and too much power. And 1G-GE is too expensive here. N/A offcourse ;D but someday.. turbocharged.

(sorry about my poor english..)

[GTSTWINCAM16]

nice swap looks real nice but this isent the first.

[Supraholics]

Thanks. The only others I've seen started after this one. Do you have links?

[GTSTWINCAM16]

no links i seen a couple hatchbacks on e bay before with the swap deff. rare your set up looks sick.

[Turbojonny5]

7mgte...Decent motor but Watch out for headgasket!!! lol

[Supraholics]

motor had been rebuilt already. HG is the least of our worries.

[cadol8989]

jajaja... awevo (NINETWNTYEIGHT) (y)

¬¬ y esto k o k ??? :S

[NINETWENTYEIGHT]

That conversion is ridiculous.

Did it throw the weight balance off the car?

Post some videos when this hits the streets

[Supraholics]

Yes. The engine on stock struts makes the car hit the lowest it can go. We'll have to upgrade the struts. This was done dragging, not auto-x for obvious reasons.