Kata JION by Luca Valdesi (ITA)

[ckhthd]

I can't see this as a first place performance.

[shotokanman1]

its all become a dance people cutting stances and techniques to look gracefull for modern compitions another 20 yrs itll be a hybrid people just cant see it aprofessional dancer could copy and perform a kata in a month to high standard does that make him a fighter NO!!!!!!

[anouni1713]

I have a problem with his hikite. shouldn't it be pulled back a little bit more? shouldn't it be aligned to the spine? sorry, that's what my sensei taught me.

[DragonlordXV]

@anouni1713 ..you right , that's what it's should be.

[ArtChaos17]

@anouni1713 WHen the hips are on it should be poised at the side of the body (under shoulder) when hips are off the elbows should be in line, if your fist was in line with your spine it would make your shoulder unnecessarily tense

[wasshai]

こぎゃん早か慈恩初めっ見た。

[doktormozg]

i see that everyone here is 10th dan grandmaster of karate from Okinawa. And this makes me sad...

[CoolLucie]

Very very good! You are very fast!

[IEKUKATAKA]

The JKA grades kata on a ten element grading system. In 1654 when an Okinawan karate disciple wanted to remember applications he saw or envisioned and developed his own kata, do you think he cared about a grading system? I think he viewed the kata on whether the techniques were executed like a fight or not. Martial arts are systems of combat skills and karate is a martial art. Did you ever wonder where all this tournament junk came from? Ever wonder if it was not karate at all?

[wildcherrygum]

He's fast and very focused. I love it!

[DrugaEmil]

he is not arming properly , half arming and i've seen there some wrong fast moves (you have to watch closely to see those mastakes) his speed is great, nice positions...in total , a good kata

[multiplecocco]

@DrugaEmil yeah actually he does many mistakes

[DrugaEmil]

@multiplecocco yep , i've said this is a good kata becouse i did not want people be against me , alot of Valdesi fans around...the truth is that he have a very good speed and positions.

[multiplecocco]

@DrugaEmil I personally know Luca Valdesi, we both are from the same area in Sicily and we did training togheter before he was in the national team.. He is very powerful on his hips!

[DrugaEmil]

@multiplecocco I am from Romania (i'm in SKDUN federation) . Yes , very powerful on his hips indeed. He would be an awsome karateka if he would have more spirit. I see only dedication for The Sport Shotokan , not Spirit, Mind , Body of Shotokan.

[ShotokanTigress]

@multiplecocco Since you said you know Luca personally, do you know what branch of Shotokan he practices? We don't hold our foot on the tip of our toes in that final bit and Jion is supposed to be shitei kata. It made me wonder. Cheers.

[multiplecocco]

@ShotokanTigress Shotokan ryu is just Shotokan ryu, there is no branch about.

[ShotokanTigress]

@multiplecocco I think I did not make my point clear enough. When I said branch I meant if he does JKA Shotokan, WKF Shotokan , etc. He must follow the rules of one federation or another.

[multiplecocco]

@ShotokanTigress during teenagehood he was into 2 or 3 different federations, since he took in the national team he only runs WKF with.

[joshuanodharma]

hikete too high and not pulled in by shoulder blades. otherwise....... WAUW

[CiliaDarren]

@LECLUGER suggest anything better?

[BlackCrazyWoman66]

:D:D:D goood

[damraf5]

at this level it's upset to see that some guys can't do a correct zenkutsu dashi and no kime

[Milena0637]

the best kata........

[Milena0637]

the best kata...

[sanchari70]

well the kata should more clear its a bit obscure otherwise good......... Should mitigate the speed level uptil a certain level.....

[sanchari70]

Good power but some of the stunts have been mistaken.

[budokichigai]

Now, THIS is more of a solid performance. Still, some of his movements are too flashy. However, overall this performance is very good.

[rajendraind42]

GOOD SHOWMANSHIP 0000000000000SS

[05Douse]

ma che cintura è???????

[multiplecocco]

@05Douse è 5°dan delle fiamme gialle, non fa un cazzo dalla mattina alla sera e fa anche un sacco di errori che nessuno vuole notare

[05Douse]

@multiplecocco e come mai ha parecchi voti buoni?

[multiplecocco]

@05Douse ma è sicuramente un forte atleta da battere, quello che intendo è che egli non è così perfetto come molti pensano perchè anche lui fa diversi errori...ma dopo 5 volte campione mondiale gliele fanno passare tutte...in Italia poi con le raccomandazioni.....se non lo sai è nel gruppo sportivo delle FFGG, ti ho detto tutto

[katacava]

@multiplecocco si, sarai forte tu, non mi pare che tu sei 3 volte campione mondiale individuale e 12 volte campione europeo individuale tutti vinti di seguito, quindi non credo che sei nella posizione di dire che non sia il migliore, poi se sei in grado di batterlo, allora aspetto di vederti ai prossimi mondiali!



[multiplecocco]

@katacava se fossi raccomandato come Valdesi e di conseguenza fossi nelle FFGG allora potresti vedermi ma siccome io sono una persona normale che si fa il culo al lavoro invece di non fare un cazzo dalla mattina alla sera come sti 4 bimbi minchia de video non mi vedrai mai. E comunque io lo conosco da quando eravamo minorenni ed in alcuni campionati regionali l'ho sempre bruciato. Valdesi è migliorato grazie alle FFGG altrimenti..ciaaaaaaaaaaoooooo­ooooo

[katacava]

@multiplecocco si, non metto in dubbio che è migliorato nelle fiamme gialle, ma la domanda è sempre quella: se " lo bruciavi sempre ai campionati regionali", perchè non vedo te al suo posto, perchè lui -raccomandato o non ora- è sempre partito da gare regionali e non è partito dalle fiamme gialle, quindi se tu lo battevi, vuol dire che potevi arrivare ad i campionati nazionali e metterti anche tu in mostra per le fiamme gialle, invece è stato scelto lui ( giustamente da quanto posso vedere)

[multiplecocco]

@katacava il tuo ragionamento fila però, adesso non so, tante cose sono cambiate e qualcosa anche nell'organigramma ma quando noi eravamo juniores, ti parlo del lontanissimo 1992/93, le selezioni per l'inserimento nei gruppi sportivi erano fatte solo sotto raccomandazioni. Luca Valdesi era sotto l'ala del maestro Torre che apparentemente contava nulla ma invece era molto influente, così come Vincenzo Figuccio sotto Nekoofar(a quei tempi maestro molto ricercato).

[multiplecocco]

@katacava sai anche che i Carabinieri hanno sciolto la squadra di karate sostituendola con quella di Taekwondo??? ;-) Figuccio è l'unico carabiniere rimasto come karate ma non appena non potrà gareggiare più con la nazionale, se vorrà continuare con il karate, dovrà trovare un altra alternativa perchè non sarà più sponsorizzato dai CC

[katacava]

@multiplecocco si, lo sapevo che i carabinieri hanno sostituito il karate con il taekwondo e figuccio NON FA PIù karate con i carabinieri, infatti lui adesso sta con la sua palestra e lavora con i carabinieri come preparatore atletico sport da combattimento, quindi ufficialmente non si allena più con i carabinieri, poi sicuramente quando non gareggera più con la nazionale la FIJLKAM gli troverà qualche posto come allenatore o se lo troverà lui come Talarico ha fatto con i vigili del fuoco.

[multiplecocco]

@katacava eco! questa cosa di Talarico non la sapevo, cioè lui è ancora nelle FFGG, come fa ad insegnare nei vigili del fuoco? si parli di misteri diversi...secondo me c'è solto qualche truffa

[1001sehrazat]

bravissimo...

[telecoo]

Shortcuts??? don´t make laugh!!! Don´t give excuses to your own incompetence... it´s the most stupid thing that i ever heard in my life... jealus guys...

Every sport going to evolution!!! Every one!! 30 years ago runners complete 100m in 13 seconds. today, it is above 10 seconds. if you doing kata like assai, kanazawa, kagawa etc, you gonna loose and all around you laugh in your face!!!

[Carl2]

@telecoo kanazawa can still kick this punks ass

[succhia]

Kanazawa fa schifo...

[Carl2]

@succhia ok what the hell is ... fa schifo?

[feelmychi]

Am I the only person that doesn't like this? When I see, say, Asai or Kanazawa doing kata, I know that if their techniques connected with me I'd wake up in the next world. I don't think this guy's techniques would be any more effective than the next McDojo sensei judging from this kata if I'm perfectly honest. They just looked weak and rushed.

[ptboyindenver]

@feelmychi I agree 100%. He uses shortcuts to make his arm *look* faster. Then he has to delay beginning to move them because of the time it takes for his legs to catch up. I see jerky, weak technique. A much better YT version is the one by Yamaguchi (an Asai disciple) where you see more connected, powerful, complete and fluid technique.

[karatefella]

is he doing strange arm movements ??

[SithV1]

Valdelsi has got really solid katas. I always like seeing his kata performances.

[namedemo]

more more more

[jamonco1]

Great!! Goin to film at Belgrade?

[KARATEbyJesse]

@jamonco1 Sorry... nope.

[asd748wsx]

interesting that he uses a high hikite. i wonder why?

[madgecic]

@asd748wsx for faster execution of punches as the technique is slightly shortened

[asd748wsx]

@madgecic interesting. is this widespread in sport karate shotokan circles?

[KARATEbyJesse]

@asd748wsx Shorter distance between chamber and extended arm? = Faster?

[KARATEbyJesse]

@KARATEbyJesse Lol just saw that this had already been answered. And I think it's just a subconscious thing when you try to be real fast. :)

[alkamar123]

@asd748wsx

the arm take a linear position, so hikite is at the optimal position to generate the maximum of power and speed of execution

[jrshoto007]

@asd748wsx biomechanics

[asd748wsx]

@jrshoto007 truly enlightening...

[jrshoto007]

@asd748wsx it SHOULD have been :)

[asd748wsx]

@jrshoto007 except that it wasn't, because the word biomechanics does not say anything relating to my question :)

[jrshoto007]

@asd748wsx exactly my point hehe

[asd748wsx]

@jrshoto007 ugh... buddhists :p