Christopher Hicthens vs. Paul Edwards [Ending]

[bobster451]

"If a person has an imaginary friend they're crazy.

If a bunch of people have the same imaginary friend...it's religion.

[socksumi]

Hitchen's: "You have an unfalsifiable faith. There is no point of evidence that you would accept that would mean you'd have to change your mind. You just call upon another interpretation of faith for it."

One of Hitchen's best lines and one that perfectly sums up Christian belief.

[suzukix5owner]

Has any theist won a argument against Christopher Hitchens?.

[yourjunk420]

Hitchens is my hero!!!

[Kincajou]

There are a few drop outs.

[burchdc]

Wow. Anybody who actually reads what the OT says can see clearly that Hitchens was NOT mischaracterizing. I've lost count of how many times God told Joshua to slaughter ever citizen of these other lands, with the exception of the virgin women and children (and even those as well in some cases). I don't recall a single instance on that campaign when the plan was to go in and strategically take out the government in order to save its people from it.

[EchelonsBST]

Hicthens kicks ass!

[BohemianBlasphemy]

Hitchens kicked amazing amounts of ass.

[PlanetBongoSan]

ah this just never gets old

[maddtappin]

why does Hitchens words get edited out?

[bazu]

the link to the full interview is now unavailable through youtube, and I'm getting skips in the sound on this video.

[JasonERF]

"it's not frightening, it's nauseating" Hahahahahaha

[roxfoot]

AN HE JUST HANGS UP,,,,,,,,,FUCKING LEGEND,,IM IN TEARS HERE,,,,,FUCKIN MAGIC I SWEAR im watchin dat shit again

[roxfoot]

this is probably the funniest shit i ever heard,,,,,,i didnt say that ,you did,,,,,the arse lickin at the end was straight out of a ricky jervais sit com,didnt work though

[roxfoot]

wat a knob ,,amalekites massacre was the same as Iraq,,wat a croc of shit........its not frigtening its nauseating,fuckin hilarious,,hitchens is brilliant,,,,I AM YOUR ENEMY fucking great

[kennycube]

AMAZING!

[stripymccatpuss]

STRANGE editing here .....WHY ?

[BohemianBlasphemy]

@stripymccatpuss

Because Hitchens' patience has a limit and he had to hang up after so many immoral, stupid and offensive things Edwards kept on saying.

[SurelyYewJest]

Paul Edwards is an indecent man who says ugly things about our soldiers, equating them with a slaughtering mob killing anything in its path by divine decree. PE is a the perfect example of the idiot apologist in the ranks of Christian advocacy speaking unspeakable horribleness and justifying the unjustifiable because he needs an invisible hand to get himself through the day. PE in this segment shows how thin the religious argument is and why it needs to be fought tooth and nail by real thinkers.

[kbjordan08]

Paul Edwards,Deuteronomy Chapter 28:7 The lord shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: They shell come out against thee one way and flee before thee seven ways, Brenda Battle Jordan.

[omocorp]

Hitchens, rude and obnoxious, as always.

[MrSalamander7]

I like to think of him as tactically rude.

[IPrayForYou2]

Christopher Hicthens is a horrible human being. Paul Edwards is a decent man as you can hear in this video.

[johnd94]

What makes Hitchens so horrible?

[MrSalamander7]

Fuck you. Paul accused US soldiers of acts equal to religious genocide.

[grai]

Paul Edwards did what christians always do start preaching about being a "slave" to publicise his own self-righteous piety and Hitchens turned it round on him brilliantly and made him look far from holy!!

christians have a very overblown idea about their importance (ALL christians)

thats coming to an end now

Paul Edwards started telling Hitchens he was vitriolic

thats something christians ALWAYS do - start maligning the other guy when they are losing the argument

[goldstead]

Paul Edwards is an idiot - brainwashed religious nut.

[goldstead]

It is long time overdue to wave goodbye to religion - all - Christianity, Muslim, Judaism, ini, Buddha, etc etc. ReligIon = FRAUD - ILLOGICAL, mythical nonsense.

[Forserean]

Was the sound cutting out for anyone else?

[Nevule]

We dnt want to be slaves of some divine tyrannical supervisor (God) from the day we were born 'til the day we die, & live the otherside of life if thats what Paul was trying to say. I don't think anyone could Rest in Peace if someone still watches over you every minute & wants you to always praise his name, & might as well changes his mind & put you to hell from his kingdom. I don't think anyone should believe this big bully of a God.

Slavery is Freedom's enemy. We should destroy our enemy.

[90mv]

The sinner he "allows" to go to hell has a choice to turn to God and be forgiven of all their sins. Don't blame God for man's decisions.

[elfred1980]

God if he actually existed- would be ultimately responsible. The fact that you can justify eternal torture even tho it wont actually happen (sorry that dissapoints you) makes you and your beliefs immoral.

[90mv]

God isn't responsible for man's sin, he gave us free will and we chose to sin against him. God is god at the end of the day I may not be happy with eternal torture but at the end of the day we sinned against him. God is holy he can't stand sin, but he died for us so that our sins could be forgiven, all we have to do is repent and accept him. Yet people don't accept him then they compain about hell when all they have to do is humble themselves and repent.

[elfred1980]

God created sin. And god did evil things all the time like ordering innocents raped an murdered.

He doesn't play by his own rules. "god can do as he pleases" is hardly an argument. The immoral actions in the bible prove that God couldnt be holy and thus doesnt exist.

Anyone who can justify eternal torture is immoral.

[90mv]

"God created sin." Makes sense, God would create the very thing he detests He doesn't play by his own rules. "god can do as he pleases" is hardly an argument. The immoral actions in the bible prove that God couldnt be holy and thus doesnt exist.

God can do what he pleases hes God lol. What do you mean he doesn't play by his own rules? what rules?

And what immoral actions has God done?

[elfred1980]

Well none since he doesnt exist.

But the God in your story book orders murder genocide and he kills himself on most notably in murdering every firstborn of egypt-who were innocent. Why does it make sense to you that your God tells us murder is wrong yet feels free to do so? Clearly he is not god.

[90mv]

God gives life and can take it away if he want's to it's his creation. He's God, we may not agree with it, but really who are we to say anything ?

[elfred1980]

In other words, God doesn't have to live by his own rules. Thus he is not holy and doesn't exist. And I think as someone who actually exists- I can say what i want.

Sound like you just dont want to think about this too much.

[90mv]

Rules ?

[elfred1980]

God commands us to be Holy. Ordering genocide of innocents doesn't qualify as breaking his own rules? Its not that hard to understand.

The "god can do as he pleases" argument is extremely revealing of the evil stupidity of bible believers and shows you have no real answer for hitchens' arguments.

[90mv]

God doesn't want you or anyone to go to hell

[Forserean]

He should really destroy hell then. Or at least close the doors.

[elfred1980]

yet he created it for that purpose for billions. Fortunately is fairly obvious that God never existed and thus couldnt create anything.

[90mv]

God created it for the devil and his demons, but then man sinned and God can't have sin in heaven. Man can be forgiven but some choose not to repent.

[supermajo16]

"no it's not frightening, it's nauseating"

[EarlofCrawford]

Hitchens schools another christian apologist.

[Titania1]

I love Christopher Hicthens

[Lar10000]

"I am in favor of god doing whatever god wants to do." That means if god wants to torture a seven-year-old child, Mr. Christian man would be okay with that. In other words, Mr. Christian man believes that might makes right. Christians really do have a primitive sense of morality. I agree with Mr. Hitchens, Christians are the enemy.

[BARCACROSSESTHEALPS]

Here's an intelligent statement: Fuck Jesus.

Well, that's the way I fell, anyway.

[ILYIAB]

Paul Edward should be a comedian. He's sooooo funny. What a nut! LOL.

[vijussil]

Owned!

[alastair78]

Totally, that was great

[Tonysrupturedspleen]

God is a lie, it was created as the ultimate cheat code for humanity.

Why did I kill my whole family?

God told me so.

Why did we invade this city and kill everybody?

God told me so.

Why did I just torture this "witch" and later burn her alive?

God told me so.

Etc etc etc

[jkmoto46]

Tony, God is for real. I know for a fact. I have heard the voice of Jesus Christ. I was reading the bible trying to find out the truth about God. I read everynight for like 6 months and really never even watched TV. I went to sleep on night and the scriptures were like burning through my head. Then I felt like I was somewhere else. Then I said " jesus.....Jesus...." and dont know why I said this.... but then I heard..." I AM" . Every nerve ending in my body jumped toward him. I wil nvr 4get

[Fallout911]

Are you serious?

I just finished watching a day long marathon of Supernatural and I dreamed that I was hunting demons, does that mean that the show Supernatural is real?

No, my brain was over loaded with watching it that I actually had a very lucid dream about it.

Same thing happened to you, unfortunately a lot less cool.

[jkmoto46]

fallout, I have given you my testimony. You do not believe. I promise you though you are wrong. And you will miss the greatest gift ever. I pray that Jesus will open your eyes and mind.

[joob44]

jkmoto46,

classic delusional symptoms dude, you just explained perfectly a textbook example of how brainwash works, and how vulnerable the mind can be especially when coerced or willing. Go take a couple of psychology classes or read a real book of facts, not fiction. I'm sure every one of the 19 highjackers had similar stories. I hate to say it but if you're going to be that credulous then go fuck yourself.

[jkmoto46]

joob, You need help if you think that all of the universe just happened by chance. The way you talk about Jesus is as if you have proved him wrong and that you are proved right by your own personal theory? I know Jesus. And every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord. You are truely in the minority. I have a Peace that jesus promised in the Bible would come when I gave my life to him. I never had a peace in my heart before. Sir you are Dead wrong.

[joob44]

please let me add. It is entirely possible that you may have experienced something majestic through your readings and meditations. You very well may have learned a lot and become the wiser for it. You may have gained a new level of inspiration etc, etc. NONE OF WHICH support any proposition proposed in the bible as being true. I beg of you to try and realize this. Have an open mind, don't get stuck on Jesus and block out other great wisdoms and experiences there are in the world. Love is real.

[joob44]

jkmoto46,

my own personal theory on why Yahweh isn't real is the same theory that says humpty dumpty, the flying spaghetti monster, and thousands of other gods such as Zues aren't real either. Same with you, its just that you're the kind of person that can't help but gorge himself on the current day idiotic god fad, specific to your own culture; perpetuated by ignorance and an incapability to view the world objectively. As a theist you must expect to go to hell purely by a matter of chance enjoy

[jkmoto46]

Joob, I dont believe in you. I dont believe that you really exist. I dont believe my great great grandmother ever existed. And there are monsters and when you die you make your residence with them. I hope that is not the case. I need no more proof. I have hope after death and I will live in the paradise prepared for Gods children. God Bless

[LosAngelesFresh1]

@Tonysrupturedspleen Also is used to control us -- why are gays not allowed to marry? Because of Religion. Why do Churches get to take in billions each year but not have to pay a penny in taxes? Because of Religion.

[jkmoto46]

Photo, Heaven would not be heaven if everbody goes, that would be Earth. If your state lottery told you that you won 250 million dollars in the lottery no strings attached would you come pick up your check? But if I told you that to inherit the Kingdom of God would be worth more you would probably blow me off. You wouldnt believe me. Money can never buy the things of God. There isnt enough money in the world to buy happiness, peace, love, joy, frienship ect.

[jkmoto46]

Photo, Think of it this way. If your neighborhood was taken hostage and the only way to avoid everyone dying was to give your son to save everyone. How would you feel if they killed your son but your neighbors stayed hostage for no reason? Or they obtained there freedom but never cared to say thank you or help you with your loss. I will tell you That heaven is for Gods children as an inheritence, and not for those who want to remain in this sinful world.

[supaflyjohnson]

Dealing infinite punishments for finite crimes is a pathetic and disgusting idea. How can any place be heaven if meanwhile our friends and brothers and sons are burning forever in hell? Only a sadist god would create faulty humans and blame them for his own mistakes, and only a self-hating slave afraid to die would follow such a ghastly apparition. Face it; a just god would never allow hell or heaven to exist.

[Lar10000]

I know many loving christians who get off believing that they will spend eternity looking at their enemies burn in hell. One lady even keeps a written list. I'm sure as an unbeliever, I am high up on the list.

[jkmoto46]

Photo, God loves you. The bible is backed by historians or it would have never survived. Look at paul in the Bible, he went from killing Christians as a Pharisee, to Being a Christian and writing 2/3 of the New Testement. This life is your time to make a choice, do you want to live with God or not? He sent his Son to Die a sinners death even though he was sinless. That redeamed us from the fall of man in to sin (Adam and Eve). Realize also his Son Was God. God himself saved us.

[Chemicalogic]

Misscharacterized the old testament? There are rivers of blood shed in the old testament. Pretty hard to defend that.

[jfko6]

Click!

[jkmoto46]

Photo, How about this. The blind see, the lame walk, the deaf hear, the dead rise. Jesus died on the cross yet defeated death by rising from the dead. The air your breathing, the earth that supports humanity and life, the 66 different accounts in the bible of expiriences with God. I will tell you that God hates religion just as he hated the pharisee's in Jesus day, But God love people including you and he wants to have a relationship with you. Jesus died so you could be with God forever.

[jkmoto46]

Jesus saved me. I was lost and now Im found was blind but now I see. I have a hope of eternal life and I thank God my father for sending his Son so that I may inherit His kingdom. I did not read these things and then tell people about it I have expierenced Jesus and his saving power. I have had Visions. I know with out a doubt that Jesus is real. Everyone will one day see.

[DareToFail1989]

How long after whatever mental trauma you've obviously suffered, did this happen.

[jkmoto46]

No trauma here. I was a regular guy who loved to party and have fun. I just had a supernatural expierience with Jesus Christ. I know for a fact he is real. I cant wait to go to heaven. It will be beyond what our mind can comprehend. I dont think you would want to miss it. But it is your choice. I read the bible 3 times and I can't believe how it all fits together. I know I will never be the same as I was. Thank God.

[DareToFail1989]

So its more likely that all of the laws of the universe were suspended, than you halucinating or being mistaken.... surely you can see where my skepticism comes from

[jkmoto46]

Dare, I surely understand your skepticism. I will tell you though do not lean on the wisdom of man to understand this. Jesus says it is by faith in God and his son that you will inherit his kingdom. I know that to be true because of my expirences. Put faith in Jesus and you will expirience him yourself. Look at all creation, how could all that just happen?

[frattydan]

I love how he flips the Amalachite comparison on him. Really well played by Hitchens.

[frattydan]

hilarious interview.

A+ slap down by Hitchens.

[allstar21369]

"There's a great deal of history written by the losers... I would refer you to, Judaica."

almost fell out of my chair laughing.

[jamesstephenbrown]

Oh Hitchens just gets better when he's pissed off. Nice.

[marsCubed]

Amazing how people still believe this stuff, All over Palestine and Israel they find statues of Yahweh - with his wife and brothers ! Yahweh was a 'baal' in ancient Canaan (also means mountain). There were no Hebrew people or exodus, no mass migrations, the OT was written in around 700BC in Judah, the people emerged out of the local Canaanite population. None of it happened apart from the last couple of chapters and a few myths.

religion is like admitting stupidity or insanity.

[smudge6699]

3:03

"You site these things as if God was just using the Israelites to make sport!"

Man invented God.

Look at the above statement the other way round.

What if the Israelites were using the justification of their God to make sport?

Paul Edwards stalls in his reply before this as he realises he's using the theological justification of the Israelites as validation for the Christian invasion of a Muslim country.

He then stumbles as he tries to excavate himself from the invalidity of his argument.

[versanil]

Edwards - "I don't understand why you are treating me with such hostility"

Hitchens - "I don't care whether you understand it or not"

Me - LOL

[maddtappin]

@versanil yes nice...so nice.

[fightclub179]

the 2 biggest dicks in the world

[a300pilotster]

sad to watch these religious idiots admit that they are a slave to anything. The twisted logic of these "supers" is scary.

[itsonelouder1]

Hitch was in a bad mood. Maybe he had a hangover.

[Hirnlego999]

There is no reason to be happy when someone said that he would do anything god says him to do... it makes it difficult to envision a world which is far better than what we have now.

Had I been Hitchens I would have asked if he would do anything some other god asked Edwards to do, like Shiva, Allah, Zeus, Thor or whatever.

[itsonelouder1]

Hitch is God lol. He well and truly owned that religious numpty

[bettySwollox]

Hahha I loved it how the DJ got all "n-n-n-n-n, d-d-d-d-d" at the end. What a bumbling fool!

[dreamy2]

awesome hangup, hitch!

[dreamy2]

Paul Edwards admitted to be a slave.

[dreamy2]

Paul Edwards is pathetic by equating US army with rapists Israelites.

[NeilKeepinItReal]

religion is a very sad thing in this world

[10aces]

Haha, lol @ 3:34.

"...No, it's not frightening, it's nauseating...."

[KaminaGurren]

Wow, Hitchens was just brutal in this one.

It was kind of hilarious to listen to, even though I wouldn't normally approve of somebody being so cruel.

Then again, Hitchens and all of his fans are pretty sick of listening to these identical Christian apologists, so why not demolish one, right?

[gezzer2]

edited twice, fckin puppets , fck u radio host

[gezzer2]

loool edited again around 3,50, lool fck off religious muppets, enjoy ur bs myth

[grubelsucht]

"Your preachments are evil and a direct threat to civilization."  Yaay!

[Mike3303]

Too be honest, I think Hitchens passions in favor of the Iraq war clouded his judgement in responding to Mr. Edwards. Some of his responses were opprobrious without much substance, such as calling him his "enemy" in an almost military-styled manner, despite the fact that Hitchens is known for his brutal debate style. I also say that as a Hitchens fan, as well (look at my favorites if you don't believe me).

[AR333]

If you indeed have watched other videos with Hitchens in them you would know what he means by the enemies. You don't have to show a cowardly liberal stance by going 'ooooh, he said enemy, enemy = war, war = bad'

The enemy is the one who prefers ignorance, the one who prefers to remain an illiterate of logic, of reason, of critical thinking. That is the enemy. The promoter of superstition, of faith, of religion, of credulity.

[Mike3303]

I'm actually a supporter of the "intervention" (as Hitch would put it) in Iraq, so by no means do I take the cowardly, liberal stance (nor the xenophobic, credulous right wing one either). I just don't think Edwards meant it in the way Hitchens perceived it or attempted for it to be perceived. Granted it was a VERY inspid comparison, I think Edwards was making the comparison on a purely general basis. I'm glad Hitchens called him out on this, but not in the manner by which he did so.

[Lar10000]

Hitch kicks ass again!

[Azadeth666]

The Hitch does tend to get pissed when people rip on the US/Iraq action, but that attempt at comparison really set him off. Even though I disagree with him on the Iraqi occupation, I concur with his ire on that point. I will give Edwards a measure of appreciation for admitting his groveling servitude to his imaginary friend. Yes, most Christians are slaves, but rarely do they have the courage or insight to admit it.

[GowanBray]

Happy birthday Hitch (60)

[Chris31088]

It kinda dissapointed me that i could have predicted this theist that chris was talking to. Every fucking time when we (atheists) tell it like it is (with all the killing) they ALWAYS say we put it out of context or mischaracterized it. it seems only christians can know how their book really meant it, because we are just to dumb to know what it means eh? o btw good comment.

[JQisAwesome]

I'm an atheist.

Christopher was unneccesarily rude. I don't think he was condoning genocide. I don't think he really meant to compare- or even equate- the Iraq war with the atrocities in the bible. Chris was being a dick for no reason, as he typically does. The interviewer went so far out of his way to compliment and flatter christopher and Christopher shit on it.

[Chris31088]

"I believe your going to hell, you will get tortured forever and my holy book calls u a fool for not following me blindly. Ur a sick fuck and diserve death for 2 people u dont even know, i mean how dare u question faith, what are u an atheist?" this is what this paul believes, what his book says, and ur worried about hitchens being rude?! he wasnt fucking rude enough! He did compare iraq to some genocidal story thats what the isrealies did! I would have told him to stfu and go die.

[JQisAwesome]

Interesting how you put that in quotes, even thought that was just YOU paraphrasing his ideas- in a much more blunt and offensive way.

Don't use quotes to misquote people.

[Chris31088]

Yes, i didn't mean this to be taken as if this guy actually said it, it was more of MY idea of what deeply religious people think. this is what their books say, these theists dont have to say it but they think it, then they get all vent outta shape when we say they are crazy cultists! next time know the difference between me quoting (something i didnt do) and me giving my opinion as to what fundies believe. Gg there buddy.

[JQisAwesome]

"...know the difference between me quoting (something i didnt do) and me giving my opinion..."

You used quotation marks. Don't use quotation marks if you're paraphrasing.

"...Rhese theists dont have to say it but they think it..."

Interesting. So when did your power of mental telepathy first manifest itself?

[Chris31088]

its easy, just hear a thousand debates with em, not to mention we HAVE THEIR FUCKING RULE BOOK that says all of it. i know they think it because they tell me! they make it public, we are goddless immoral people for not worrishiping their GOD! do u not c this? o and thank you for telling me how to write my own opinions, asshole. next time i wont use silly quotes.... good job.

[kensuke0]

Considering how the Edwards guy didn't seem to listen to what he had to say (or understand), I don't blame him.

[faraz1729]

I love that in a rapidly advancing age where sophisticated reason and logic and hard work are paving the way to the future, their entire argument rests solely on the primitive notions of gullibility, blind faith, servitude, etc.

[mhhood]

Well there you go. He admitted that not only was he a slave, but that if he thought God asked him too, he'd gladly commit horrible crimes against you and your family.

[faraz1729]

Epic self-pwnage.

[Ing213]

I love how he says that the Isrealites attacked the other tribes cause of their child sacrifice...and then they went ahead and KILLED all the male children and babies.

You can't claim they attacked for moral reasons when they then go ahead and kill more people than their enemies would have.

[sparrow111260]

Oh geez, not the stupid malachites argument.

[73elephants]

Well, if you're bored with the Amalachites, we could always look at the Midianites -- plus the long list of -ites allegedly destroyed by Joshua and his merry band.

[siciliano29]

I swear to Zues I can't wait until the day theism is LITERALLY classified as a mental disorder, because these people are clearly off their fucking rockers.

[faraz1729]

Has this Paul Edwards guy ever read the Old Testament?

[faraz1729]

Oh my flying spaghetti monster, this guy got decimated.

[ArchonAlez]

It was quite funny to hear when Paul Edwards accused Hitchens of "mischaracterising" the Old Testament, where Hitchens actually made an accurate analogy of this particular facet of the book (the whole exterminating of the other desert tribes thing).

[netwolf]

As usual, Theists- FAIL

Logic/Reason- For the win.

[adamthebaddun]

Hitchens utterly annaihalated this guy, Beautiful.

[RobotzAreAwesome]

Hitchens just castrated that man. Well done sir.

[Cafeeine]

As good as CH was, he didnt castrate him.

That job has been done long ago. He just brought out his limp morality for everyone to see.

[RobotzAreAwesome]

hahahz true

[zomgomgomgz]

hitchens is the man. fuck religion.

[jkmoto46]

Hey Zom, I hate religion to. I think even God hates religion. Religion is useless. It helps no one. I think that Jesus just wants to have a relationship with us. Not religion. That is not of God.

[PinkSideburns]

He gets a little irritated, but that doesn't mean he lost. Hitchens prevails again!

[WereAllApes]

whats with the pauses...

[GBCE]

hitchens arguments consist of ad hominems and vitrolic hatred for anyone who doesn't agree with him. paul edwards definitely won this out of sheer courtesy

[thruthem]

A deluded zombie-worshipping muppet can not possibly win an argument.

[dylracer11]

Dude, you are not smart.

[adamthebaddun]

WHAT!? Politeness doesn't win an argument! You simply cannot be able to type words on a computer and also be so stupid as to equate pleasentness with correctness. A red box is a red box whether you call it a "red box" or a "fucking red box". Hitchens bossed this guy off the radio and made him look utterly foolish, and that's the case whether or not we say he did it with honey or vinegar.

[73elephants]

Courtesy is irrelevant. He equated the US war in Iraq with the Israelite *genocide* against the Amalachites. That was moral stupidity of the highest order, and so he pwned himself.

He also admitted that he was a "slave" to God, and would do whatever God told him, no matter what. More moral stupidity, but this time he would be able to claim support from scripture.

He then compounded the these idiocies by pretending to forget he had said them.

Blatant self-contradicton = debate FAIL.

[WizardJim]

Paul Edwards...

...you've just been Hitchowned.

[hellboymaine]

you fuckin suck .

[thruthem]

Turd