o come on people if you like the car alot what does it hurt to work on it its whatever floats your boat not others if you like it then go for it id rather have a car i like thats fast than somthin i hate thats fast
nice skylark, i mean cutlass, i mean malibu, i mean acheiva, oh fuck it who cares there all pieces of shit. thank good they dropped the 3 speed automatic or ud be in trouble boy, and how does it feel to finally have a/c in ur car now that its 1997?
Crap, where's the sound? i can't tell whats happening or when you two started racing lol.. I have a 1998 GAGT V6 3100, I believe it is the same thing (engine) as the one you got there, only difference is i have intake and exhaust on mine, maybe that's why i can outrun preludes any day? =]
I have a 1996 Ga se 3.1 V6 with a new ES,AF,FF, and tuneup, bought it for 3k, only 1000 miles on it. ive beaten an 02 dodge dakota, 01 impala, and a 1992 celebrity.
I have an 02 Grand Am with a 3400 and I can beat civics. There are a few "Ricers" that I cant beat like an rsx and some others. But either way I like my Grand Am alot... Ive had it for a year now an no problems out of it at 120k... needless to say I like it alot better than any honda
wanna know somethin really funny.... i own a 1995 honda civic ex and im tradin it for a 1996 pontiac se 5speed... i used to like ricers an they'll run forever, but you'll get way better performance, stock, with an american made car...
I'm not saying honda's are bad cars. Just saying i think it's funny you got into a bigass argument over vtec. And so far my GA hasnt lost to any honda round here.
why argue? Pontiacs are garbage anyone that would buy one has a mental problem. The transmissions are notorious for breaking down, i knew ppl with 5 different makes and all had transmission problems. Ppl buy them because they do look nice, well some of them, but no reliability. Honda all the way!!!!! If you dont like the truth sit in your lazy boy with your mouth shut. Suck my balls
you do realize that the 3.8 in the grand prix was on the top 10 engines of the millenium right. and will out run any honda. just ask my friend with the 00 accord v6 because i destroy him every time. imports have no torque what so ever
so your 3.8 Grand Prix will outrun an NSX, or an Acura TL, or hell, an S2000? Don't think so. And what about on a track? Don't think so. And Accord V6's aren't much for racing. I admit, they could be faster. But hell, its a family car and its only a 2.7l V6. I wouldn't expect much from it. And what top 10 list did this come from? Pontiac IMO isn't much of a performance brand like it used to be but they do have their fire. I wouldn't count the 3.8 as one of em though...
@ojdidit84 The Wards 10 Engines Of The CENTURY. And no a GP wont outrun a TL,NSX or S2k STOCK,but get a GTP GP and with $2000 you can make them 13 second cars. And dude Pontiac sucks balls. I mean Im stuck driving this shitty ass 320 hp Trans Am... Any way.Don't bash the Buick 3800.Cause well,it is one of the best all around engines EVER made...
You might want to correct that statement about imports having no torque. I have a stock 2.5L F/I engine that makes 265hp/244tq to the crank. With a tune I'll be at around 290hp/305tq~ to the wheels (30% drivetrain loss). If thats not a lot of torque, then I don't know what is. It's enough to beat most of the cars on the road, including mustangs and GTPs.
dude, fuck. you. hate on your own shit to ppl who talk shit about yours even... not the cars that get put on here for entertainment only...no bragging rights or anything...dont like the video? dont fuckin watch it.
Sorry to break the news to you but my wife got a 99' Grand Am 6 years ago in high school. We have put 130,000 miles on it and it has never seen a shop. It has never failed to start or left us stranded. It has enough pull to get on the interstate and get through traffic.
P.S. I have driven hondas since I was 16 and the Grand Am is right there with the hondas on reliability.
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why argue? Pontiacs are garbage anyone that would buy one has a mental problem. The transmissions are notorious for breaking down, i knew ppl with 5 different makes and all had transmission problems. Ppl buy them because they do look nice, well some of them, but no reliability. Honda all the way!!!!! If you dont like the truth sit in your lazy boy with your mouth shut. Suck my balls
why argue? Pontiacs are garbage anyone that would buy one has a mental problem. The transmissions are notorious for breaking down, i knew ppl with 5 different makes and all had transmission problems. Ppl buy them because they do look nice, well some of them, but no reliability. Honda all the way!!!!! If you dont like the truth sit in your lazy boy with your mouth shut. Suck my balls
So thats why my 95 Honda Prelude VTEC can run upper 14's with only CAI, Exhaust and Header huh? Man, you really dont know shit about honda's do you? Your just another meat head with another piece of shit car thats gonna break down at 150k miles.
Why are you getting so pissed about vtec? you all dont know what you're talking about. All vtec is is fucking variable valve timing. Just like GM's fucking Ecotec in the new cobalt and G5, and the toyota's fucking vvt-i. It's just a fucking name for what your engine does based on the need for fuel. You retards think it "kicks in". Leave it to a honda person to not know his own fucking engine.
and you my friend..are a dumass...i hate it wen guys like you dont respect hondas...we both know dat a well tuned honda engine will be woopin on ur pontiacs...a 4 banger kikin sum v8 ass..you gota respect dat..
stupido, a whell tuned honda won't have a hope in hell against a well tuned V8, yes honda makes fuel efficent long lasting a relieble engines, but that's IT!!!! hondas are fcking slow a bag of potatoes
What the fuck are you talking about. Cold air intake with good quality hi-flow filter will give it more power, performance exhaust system with headers will give it more hp, better spark plugs, camshaft and pulley, fuel pump,(the list goes on) will cost around 2 grand.
uhh...don't you mean to say: "yeah...2 grand i can spend on a shitty craped-out USED car that will breakdown in just a couple of months." Even if it was a new car, it'll the shittist most unreliable car ever made that will probably blow up on you out of nowhere, completly unpredictable, and therefore: you'll die painfully by burning without even knowing it was going to happen.
So go ahead and be a cheap basterd because at the end, cheap stuff that is good is actually costly; and it's your life.
so what youre saying is....spend 2 grand on shitty, bolt on parts to try to make a pontiac,family car that runs high 16's stock, run low 16's? im not hating on pontiacs or hondas when i say that that is a complete waste of money and youre a fuckin idiot because you would spend that much on a 97. so what i meant to say was...
yeah...2 grand i can spend on a shitty craped-out USED car that will breakdown in just a couple of months cuz its better than waiting for mine to break down now...
hey, i spent 1650 on my 1996 grand am with 204,000 miles on it, as of today it has 292,381 miles, i have bought a starter, and a new ignition, total cost is $400, my gas mileage is incredible, and hell i smoke the tires off of it easily
ok man let me tell you the skinny. hondas are fuel efficient cars, not race cars. i like to call them point a to point b cars and that pretty much sums it up. the only hondas that can break out of the 15's in the quarter mile are hondas that have thousands of dollars of mods in them and crx's because they are light but yet they still need thousands of dollars of mods. so let me rephrase myself "point a to point b cars" thanks and come again.
You are horribly mistaken. Thousands of dollars just to get out of 15's? The 5th gen prelude runs mid 15s stock. It would take only $500 and some tuning to get into the 14s easily.
yeah, those preludes are pretty quick.....i raced an si prelude a few days ago in my integra....i had him until his vtec kicked in, thankfully im doing a engine tranny swap this summer
VTEC Doesn't "kick in". It's instantaneous. Two camprofiles, one for economy one for performance.. At a certain ammount of applied throttle the cam adjusts to high performance.
He probably just hit his peak torque at 8000RPM. lol.
your explanation is the worst ive ever heard about a vtec motor because its pretty much ALL WRONG!!!! peak torque is closer to where vtec KICKS IN. around five grand. it doesnt depend on how much throttle is applied, it depends on how fast youre going and how high youre running your rpms
niceee, preludes gotta be 1 of da fastest cars wit 4 cylinders. dammit, i wish i had a nice place 2 race, but NY, itz impossible 2 find a place 2 race without hittin pot holes n otha shytt
93 lude h23a1 5 speed with a bigger turbo would smoke it even if it had the supercharger
KINGEYELESS 8 months ago
@XshowbizzcodgamerX lol i know,i was kidding,i love my trans am,and yea,girls do like my car haha.
rockerdude29 11 months ago
o come on people if you like the car alot what does it hurt to work on it its whatever floats your boat not others if you like it then go for it id rather have a car i like thats fast than somthin i hate thats fast
TransAmFTW 1 year ago
nice skylark, i mean cutlass, i mean malibu, i mean acheiva, oh fuck it who cares there all pieces of shit. thank good they dropped the 3 speed automatic or ud be in trouble boy, and how does it feel to finally have a/c in ur car now that its 1997?
mtldrmr 2 years ago
Crap, where's the sound? i can't tell whats happening or when you two started racing lol.. I have a 1998 GAGT V6 3100, I believe it is the same thing (engine) as the one you got there, only difference is i have intake and exhaust on mine, maybe that's why i can outrun preludes any day? =]
xj220se 2 years ago
lol grand am's suck...its all about the grand prix's especially gtp's
jroetman1323 2 years ago
its all about the 3.8L engine, not the 3.1
beatstork 2 years ago
Hell yeah go ponti!!!!!!!!
74ChevyVegaMan 2 years ago
I have a 1996 Ga se 3.1 V6 with a new ES,AF,FF, and tuneup, bought it for 3k, only 1000 miles on it. ive beaten an 02 dodge dakota, 01 impala, and a 1992 celebrity.
Hatepie6 2 years ago
i cant believe the grand am went 120
andrew2113 2 years ago
I have an 02 Grand Am with a 3400 and I can beat civics. There are a few "Ricers" that I cant beat like an rsx and some others. But either way I like my Grand Am alot... Ive had it for a year now an no problems out of it at 120k... needless to say I like it alot better than any honda
beauboy76 3 years ago 2
wanna know somethin really funny.... i own a 1995 honda civic ex and im tradin it for a 1996 pontiac se 5speed... i used to like ricers an they'll run forever, but you'll get way better performance, stock, with an american made car...
buck2157 3 years ago
i have a 96 ga se with only an aftermarket intake n it has some decent power for a 3.1 v6
Blaze775 3 years ago
i havent any problems with it at all...
it runs really good,,
wakeboardingguy6 3 years ago
thats nd older grand am se its basically crap the newer grand am gts are alot better
Skyline0392 3 years ago
hey, i get 28 mpg in my v6 se
=]
wakeboardingguy6 3 years ago
ya but u get around 25ish wit the gt plus u get a ram air system
im thinking bout getting one in a couple of months how does ur grand am run?
Skyline0392 3 years ago
eh.. my 96 GA needs an intake. it's not supported by k&n. any other brands with good intakes?
Cheez360 3 years ago
I'm not saying honda's are bad cars. Just saying i think it's funny you got into a bigass argument over vtec. And so far my GA hasnt lost to any honda round here.
grandamnit 3 years ago
haha plus one for the GAs!
whoo!
wakeboardingguy6 3 years ago
why argue? Pontiacs are garbage anyone that would buy one has a mental problem. The transmissions are notorious for breaking down, i knew ppl with 5 different makes and all had transmission problems. Ppl buy them because they do look nice, well some of them, but no reliability. Honda all the way!!!!! If you dont like the truth sit in your lazy boy with your mouth shut. Suck my balls
thilfiger2354 4 years ago
you do realize that the 3.8 in the grand prix was on the top 10 engines of the millenium right. and will out run any honda. just ask my friend with the 00 accord v6 because i destroy him every time. imports have no torque what so ever
narlo123 3 years ago 5
so your 3.8 Grand Prix will outrun an NSX, or an Acura TL, or hell, an S2000? Don't think so. And what about on a track? Don't think so. And Accord V6's aren't much for racing. I admit, they could be faster. But hell, its a family car and its only a 2.7l V6. I wouldn't expect much from it. And what top 10 list did this come from? Pontiac IMO isn't much of a performance brand like it used to be but they do have their fire. I wouldn't count the 3.8 as one of em though...
ojdidit84 3 years ago 2
@ojdidit84 The Wards 10 Engines Of The CENTURY. And no a GP wont outrun a TL,NSX or S2k STOCK,but get a GTP GP and with $2000 you can make them 13 second cars. And dude Pontiac sucks balls. I mean Im stuck driving this shitty ass 320 hp Trans Am... Any way.Don't bash the Buick 3800.Cause well,it is one of the best all around engines EVER made...
rockerdude29 1 year ago
@narlo123
You might want to correct that statement about imports having no torque. I have a stock 2.5L F/I engine that makes 265hp/244tq to the crank. With a tune I'll be at around 290hp/305tq~ to the wheels (30% drivetrain loss). If thats not a lot of torque, then I don't know what is. It's enough to beat most of the cars on the road, including mustangs and GTPs.
jakubgt1 1 year ago
@narlo123 Your stock 3.8 grand am isn't faster than an 00 Accord V6unless it's the supercharged one bitch
mustangmikeca 11 months ago
dude, fuck. you. hate on your own shit to ppl who talk shit about yours even... not the cars that get put on here for entertainment only...no bragging rights or anything...dont like the video? dont fuckin watch it.
wakeboardingguy6 3 years ago
Sorry to break the news to you but my wife got a 99' Grand Am 6 years ago in high school. We have put 130,000 miles on it and it has never seen a shop. It has never failed to start or left us stranded. It has enough pull to get on the interstate and get through traffic.
P.S. I have driven hondas since I was 16 and the Grand Am is right there with the hondas on reliability.
danielnorred 3 years ago
I call my 01 GAGT A Rice killer.
mongoose063 3 years ago
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why argue? Pontiacs are garbage anyone that would buy one has a mental problem. The transmissions are notorious for breaking down, i knew ppl with 5 different makes and all had transmission problems. Ppl buy them because they do look nice, well some of them, but no reliability. Honda all the way!!!!! If you dont like the truth sit in your lazy boy with your mouth shut. Suck my balls
thilfiger2354 4 years ago
why argue? Pontiacs are garbage anyone that would buy one has a mental problem. The transmissions are notorious for breaking down, i knew ppl with 5 different makes and all had transmission problems. Ppl buy them because they do look nice, well some of them, but no reliability. Honda all the way!!!!! If you dont like the truth sit in your lazy boy with your mouth shut. Suck my balls
thilfiger2354 4 years ago
So thats why my 95 Honda Prelude VTEC can run upper 14's with only CAI, Exhaust and Header huh? Man, you really dont know shit about honda's do you? Your just another meat head with another piece of shit car thats gonna break down at 150k miles.
RedLudeBB1 4 years ago
Why are you getting so pissed about vtec? you all dont know what you're talking about. All vtec is is fucking variable valve timing. Just like GM's fucking Ecotec in the new cobalt and G5, and the toyota's fucking vvt-i. It's just a fucking name for what your engine does based on the need for fuel. You retards think it "kicks in". Leave it to a honda person to not know his own fucking engine.
grandamnit 4 years ago
hahaha thats fuckin halarious go u
angrymidget12 4 years ago
you guys all stupid fucks and have no clu what you tlaking
RICERS
your pile of recycled metal just got SMOKED by a pile of shit you called it pontiac, god you idiots are so dumb, fuck all of you and you hondas
DimaK111 4 years ago
and you my friend..are a dumass...i hate it wen guys like you dont respect hondas...we both know dat a well tuned honda engine will be woopin on ur pontiacs...a 4 banger kikin sum v8 ass..you gota respect dat..
tepedgo 4 years ago
you numb nuts, since when a grand am has a V8 in it???you defently know what you are tlaking about
DimaK111 4 years ago
watever i dont care bout grand am...im jus talkin bout honda haters...by da way..is it a v6?
tepedgo 4 years ago
3100 v6... yeah
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
no its a 3400 v6 u dumb shit get ur facts straight
angrymidget12 4 years ago
No 3400 in the Grand Am until 1999.
You said something about getting facts straight? =]
sillystring845 4 years ago
So who's the real dumb shit here? =]
sillystring845 4 years ago
ha thank you...!
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
he just said 3400?
syndrom666 4 years ago
uhh....fuck you... i own the car dipshit, its a 3100.... dont question me.
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
stupido, a whell tuned honda won't have a hope in hell against a well tuned V8, yes honda makes fuel efficent long lasting a relieble engines, but that's IT!!!! hondas are fcking slow a bag of potatoes
DimaK111 4 years ago
my fuckin grand am will kick ur piece of shit hondas ass anyday ur 97 stock horsepower aint shit
angrymidget12 4 years ago
your such a jackass.... theres virtually NOTHING you can do to make these GAs have any more hp.... unless you spend a shitload...
mines stock and i dont give a fuck...
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
if you have a 2.4 then it's some what cheap
RocketFast321 4 years ago
ya but i have the 3.1 so if i wanted to ... theres realy nothin cheap at all.....
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
i believe there is a intake out for it and u can do exhaust i have a 99 GA and its pretty fast for just have intake and exhaust on it
cooldude55320 3 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about. Cold air intake with good quality hi-flow filter will give it more power, performance exhaust system with headers will give it more hp, better spark plugs, camshaft and pulley, fuel pump,(the list goes on) will cost around 2 grand.
lowridertrucks4life 3 years ago
yeah...2 grand i can spend on a new car...
wakeboardingguy6 3 years ago
uhh...don't you mean to say: "yeah...2 grand i can spend on a shitty craped-out USED car that will breakdown in just a couple of months." Even if it was a new car, it'll the shittist most unreliable car ever made that will probably blow up on you out of nowhere, completly unpredictable, and therefore: you'll die painfully by burning without even knowing it was going to happen.
So go ahead and be a cheap basterd because at the end, cheap stuff that is good is actually costly; and it's your life.
lowridertrucks4life 3 years ago
so what youre saying is....spend 2 grand on shitty, bolt on parts to try to make a pontiac,family car that runs high 16's stock, run low 16's? im not hating on pontiacs or hondas when i say that that is a complete waste of money and youre a fuckin idiot because you would spend that much on a 97. so what i meant to say was...
yeah...2 grand i can spend on a shitty craped-out USED car that will breakdown in just a couple of months cuz its better than waiting for mine to break down now...
bitch.
wakeboardingguy6 3 years ago
hey, i spent 1650 on my 1996 grand am with 204,000 miles on it, as of today it has 292,381 miles, i have bought a starter, and a new ignition, total cost is $400, my gas mileage is incredible, and hell i smoke the tires off of it easily
TheBzme 2 years ago
ok man let me tell you the skinny. hondas are fuel efficient cars, not race cars. i like to call them point a to point b cars and that pretty much sums it up. the only hondas that can break out of the 15's in the quarter mile are hondas that have thousands of dollars of mods in them and crx's because they are light but yet they still need thousands of dollars of mods. so let me rephrase myself "point a to point b cars" thanks and come again.
RageGT01 4 years ago
You are horribly mistaken. Thousands of dollars just to get out of 15's? The 5th gen prelude runs mid 15s stock. It would take only $500 and some tuning to get into the 14s easily.
JenksQ 4 years ago
im talkin to dimaK111
tepedgo 4 years ago
Yay, you fucking beat some little econocars. Just don't forget you still drive a pile of shit Pontiac.
94coupeV6 4 years ago
wow thanks dude...
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
i got a 93 lude (h22), with aem intake,headers, chip apexi catback, with greddy stage 2 turbo, with forged pistons! :) will be reallll quick.
tripownage 4 years ago
pretty cool, i like the newer 2000+ gt's personally
ijamtothebeat 4 years ago
yeah, those preludes are pretty quick.....i raced an si prelude a few days ago in my integra....i had him until his vtec kicked in, thankfully im doing a engine tranny swap this summer
LowTegra 4 years ago
wat kinda engine you gunna put in it? ive been lookin for an integra for awhile now... theyre sick cars with losta potential...
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
VTEC Doesn't "kick in". It's instantaneous. Two camprofiles, one for economy one for performance.. At a certain ammount of applied throttle the cam adjusts to high performance.
He probably just hit his peak torque at 8000RPM. lol.
AirsoftSoldier69 4 years ago
you is a motherfucking retard.
your explanation is the worst ive ever heard about a vtec motor because its pretty much ALL WRONG!!!! peak torque is closer to where vtec KICKS IN. around five grand. it doesnt depend on how much throttle is applied, it depends on how fast youre going and how high youre running your rpms
nathan444111 4 years ago
dam your dum as hell...if you dont know bout honda engines...jus shut up and save your stupidness...vtec DOES kik in..at 4800 rpm...jus for ur info..
tepedgo 4 years ago
niceee, preludes gotta be 1 of da fastest cars wit 4 cylinders. dammit, i wish i had a nice place 2 race, but NY, itz impossible 2 find a place 2 race without hittin pot holes n otha shytt
myany 4 years ago
theyre definatley quick.
but my automatic grand am didnt lose by that much(1/4 car) so im pretty happy... lol
wakeboardingguy6 4 years ago
soundless, sorry guys
wakeboardingguy6 5 years ago