raymond143 DEBATE 12 IGLESIA NI CRISTO church of christ vs CATHOLICS ,,[ USA ]

[crazyformusic]

@babyfaceassassin21 sorry pre di kasi kami nakikinig kapag puro kuro kuro lang ang mga pinagsasabi ng isang mangangaral. kailangan namin ng proof from the bible. hindi mo ba napapansin, puro verse ng bible ang mga pinagbabasa ng representative ng Iglesia ni Cristo?

[babyfaceassassin21]

bat sila nagpapalakpakan eh wala namang kakwenta kwenta sinasabi hahahha. grabe sana pinakinggan nila ung mga explanations. para sarado ang tenga ung gusto lang marinig ang pinakinggan

[yosufabdultalib]

zulfikarl my friend, you believe that Jesus (Ysa Ign Mariam, PBUH) is not god are you not? if that is so, leave your cult and transfer to the true religion which is Islam!

[yosufabdultalib]

The religion of Islam is the most intolerant religion of all. Other religions are generally tolerant enough of other beliefs. But Islam is something else. You say one word against Islam and they will hack you to death. Look at the author Salman Rushdie who wrote "Satanic Verses", he went into hiding for 20 years because Muslims want to kill him. But Dan Brown is even invited to conduct lectures by Christians about "The Da Vinci Code". --zulfikarl

[chapmaned]

If anyone knew about seed time and harvest, then they would know that there is no way that the Church of Christ needed to "re-establish" the Church, because the Body of Christ cannot die, therefore, Jesus began his church and it never ended to begin with.

[rapturedpassage]

Satan's minions always piss off they victims.

[rapturedpassage]

Ventilacion said, "Christ is divine but not God." Whoahahahahaha!

[tagabohol]

I thought before INCs are Christians but they are not. Because Christians believe in Christ's divinity.

[JDNWF66]

You are a CULT !!! Absolutely right!

[chichee86]

You guys are a fuking CULT! How dare you think that you are smarter than a Catholic after they have been here longer than them? They control the bible you idiot... Guess what?? I was an iglesia... You treat people horribly! YOu do nothing good for the community... its all a lie!

[zulfikarl]

@009Zagogulaman

MULTIPLE ACCOUNT USER PARA KUNWARI MAY KAKAMPI. GAGOGULAMAN AT ASUS AY IISA. THAT'S PROVEN BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT BY OVERWHELMING CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

[zulfikarl]

@ASUSM2VMXSE

HAHAHA! SI GAGOLAMAN BADING NA BADING SA AKIN! NARCISSIST TALAGA SI BISAKOL!

[zulfikarl]

@009Zagogulaman

MAY NAGSABI SA AKIN NA YAN SI ASUS AT GAGOLAMAN AY IISA HAHAHA! MULTIPLE ACCOUNT USER. HOY GAGOLAMAN! BA'T ANDITO KA? NAUBOS NA BA PANINDA MONG SAGO AT GULAMAN?

ALAM KO SIDE WALK VENDOR KA LANG NA NATURUANG MAG-INTERNET BWAHAHAHA!

[dellshond]

Knock out 5:30.

[tdmavens]

This INC logic is quite amusing.

[kennyg03]

look at the evil in his eyes in 2:09 lol!

[boooom15]

religion divides us....T_T

[yosufabdultalib]

INC members... REPENT AND CONVERT TO ISLAM!!!!

[zulfikarl]

@yosufabdultalib

ISLAM MEMBERS REPENT AND CONVERT TO MORMONS

[ASUSM2VMXSE]

@zulfikarl Guys look at this CHILDISH MINDED guy! hehehe she "oh sorry i mean," he loves THEORIES! maybe he's the one who converted to MORMON?

guys give him a piece of BANANA! LOL

[zulfikarl]

@ASUSM2VMXSE

I'M NOT MORMON. I BELONG TO THE IGLESIA APOSTOLICA ATHEISTA. MAY OUR GOD BELZEEBUB THE GREAT BLESS YOU. HEHEHE!

RABADABDAB THANK YOU FOR THE GRAB! BELZEEBUBSKI AKBAR! HAHAHA!

[yosufabdultalib]

@zulfikarl May God forgive you brother. REPENT AND MAKE STRAIGHT YOUR PATH!!! ALLAHUAKBAR!

[zulfikarl]

@yosufabdultalib

The religion of Islam is the most intolerant religion of all. Other religions are generally tolerant enough of other beliefs. But Islam is something else. You say one word against Islam and they will hack you to death. Look at the author Salman Rushdie who wrote "Satanic Verses", he went into hiding for 20 years because Muslims want to kill him. But Dan Brown is even invited to conduct lectures by Christians about "The Da Vinci Code".

[ASUSM2VMXSE]

@zulfikarl don't just me! the video it self NOT ME!

you're not perfect to judge my WEAKNESS because you had it too

[zulfikarl]

@ASUSM2VMXSE "you're not perfect to judge my WEAKNESS because you had it too"

I had it too? It's past tense. That means I used to have it but I no longer have it now. Hahaha Tard

Ditto: Satanic Verses. It's a novel written by Rushdie and published in 1992 by the Consortium Inc. It's ISBN is 0-9632707-0-2.

I bet you don't even know what ISBN stands for. You're really a good for nothing person. That's why you're so dispensable. Your only good to be used as suicide bomber

[ASUSM2VMXSE]

@zulfikarl Look at the author Salman Rushdie who wrote "Satanic Verses",? DID YOU MEAN, the SATANIC VERSES IN THE BIBLE that droves Salman Rushdie to COUNTER IT? hahaha what a LATE!

how about i share you THOSE 195 SATANICE VERSES IN THE BIBLE!

regards fro me, PASTOR DANNY DE RUEL!

[ASUSM2VMXSE]

@zulfikarl HAHAHA YOU HAVE BEEN TRAPPED! OH REALLY? YOU'RE NOT MORMON? THEN WHAT ATHEIST or PARANOID, or maybe A SICK PERSON HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

why you hate my videos? I know its not because of the ENGLISH BUT THE THEIR POINTS! this is the lesson KID! DO NOT DO BAD THINGS TO OTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT TO YOU!

go educate your self 5 year kid minded

[zulfikarl]

@ASUSM2VMXSE

Trying hard mag-English! Halatang hindi nag-college. Ano pinahirapan ba kita? English debate lang tayo para makasali ang iba. Ok, my Moklo friend?

Mahimo man sad ta'g magbinisaya apan basin mahitumpawak ka unya sa dakong kaulaw. Busa Mag-iningles nalang ta Moklo. Kabawo man ko nga Tagalog nga Muslim ka. Balik-Islam man ka. Kaila man mi ni Ustadz Nagiv Rasul Fernandez kay nagkasangka na man mi og pangatarungan sa Plaza Independencia. Pataka man lang na siyag sulti.

[ASUSM2VMXSE]

@zulfikarl hehehe oh baka naman napipikon kalang talaga kaya mayabang ka?

wala kanaman alam sa islam and common sense eh! mababaw kalang na kausap KAYA PAL TALK LANG ANG PAKIKIPAGUSAP KO SAYO LOL!

hindi mo ba nahalata? pinaglalaruan lang kita!

[zulfikarl]

@ASUSM2VMXSE

"DO NOT DO BAD THINGS TO OTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT TO YOU!"

HAHAHA! WRONG GRAMMAR! REPETITIVE PHRASE. PAULIT-ULIT MO YAN SINASABI. MINSAN TINATAGALOG MO LANG.

HOY BOGO! MAGHIKOG PA KA, DAGHAN PA MALIPAY MA-MINUSAN PA ANG MGA MOKLO SA KALIBUTAN! BWAHAHAHA!

[yosufabdultalib]

INC members... REPENT AND CONVERT TO ISLAM!!!!

[yosufabdultalib]

INC members... REPENT AND CONVERT TO ISLAM!!!!

[wbarquez]

Where in the Bible does it say Philippines? Now Mr Keating asks a question based on the where-in-the-Bible standards of the INC.

[wbarquez]

Far east and far west? This man is fantasizing!

[nilofc]

sakit matalo? I don't see it that way....all i see is some silly arguments from INC quoting from a book that was pronounced as the inerrant word of God by the Catholic Church.

Tell me ...why do you use a book that was pronounced as inspired by the Holy Spirity by the Catholic Church?

[imchrismondo]

sounds like he's gettin mad lol.

[fervil100]

The two nature of our Lord both Human and Divine is the very reason why we have the New Testament Today. The Catholic reaffirmed its belief and made the canon of the Bible official because of the heretical teachings that were poluting the Church at around one hundred years of it's existence. And so they trash out the heretical books that were seeping into the Church like the Gospel of Thomas , G. of Peter, G. of Philiph,Apocalypse of Peter and so on. Read it The Lost Scriptures.

[fervil100]

Mr. Ventilation misinterprets the Bible verse. Our Lord Jesus' audience were Jews and when He said "my other flock", He was referring to the Gentiles not the Philippines. Mr. Ventilacion is totally, totally out of Bible intelligence. I don't know why the members of Iglesia believe this especially the educated ones.

[ariesthina]

Yung mga religion na wala nmn sa bible o ung mga religion na hindi tinutukoy sa bible e manahimik nalng biblia nalng tanungin nyo wag kaming mga INC kc hindi naman kami ang may ari nyan nabili lang din naman kami,,wah hahahahahahha

[marvinncantillo]

@impusher magdoktrina k kc

[1914july27]

makisingit lang po. nahahalata ko kc na parang ang iglesia ni cristo lang may hula na nailalantad at pinagtatalunan at pilit na tinututulan. kau naman kaya maglantad kau ng hula sa rilegion nyo na natupad at mababasa sa biblia at kahit anong salin ng biblia na kau nga ang tinutokoy at pinanghahawakan nyong hula. .

[nilofc]

How can you call yourself Church of Christ when you do not even consider Christ as God? This is so funny,

[marvinncantillo]

@nilofc magdoktrina ka para malaman mo...

[nilofc]

You mean...the doctrine called the bible?

The bible which was compiled by a synod of Catholic Bishops in Hippo? And later approved in the council of Florence and Council of Rome?

These are a synod of Catholic Bishops and not a synod of protestant pastors.

Yes...the same bible you are using. Read about history...

The bible you are using is a Catholic book.

[imchrismondo]

go ahead and ask a inc minister that question and youll understand. really though.

[nilofc]

The reason why your inc minister is in INC is because he doesn't understand. If he does understand...he'd be Catholic.

[imchrismondo]

thats why kreet was proven wrong on so many levels on the main topic of the debate right? watch and listen carefully lol.

[gELmatriz]

The Bible tells us in 1 John 4:1: "Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world." Was Felix Manalo a true prophet? Is his church the "true Church?" If we test the claims of Iglesia ni Cristo, the answer is apparent. His total apostasy doctrine is in flat contradiction to Christs teaching. There is no way that Iglesia ni Cristo can be the true Church of Christ.

[AmadoPecador]

Ventilación has some pretty childish arguments to "prove" his or someone eles' private interpretations.

He's getting ventilated by some good common sense and Scripture. I hope he admits his errors.

[josiah88]

The church of the east in Isaiah is the church in the Philipines because that is where his church is? Wow, that is a logical conclusion! What a NUT! LOL!

iglesia Ni Cristo members.....REPENT!

REPENT OF YOUR HERESEY!

[kenrmrz12345]

we catholics do not use the innacurate translations of moffat and lamsa!!!!! so do not barge to me the translations of moffat because we catholics do not use that wrong bible!

another thing that made mr. ventilacion loose the debate, is that he carelessly use wrong bibles!!!! to support his doctrine! why not use the bible they both agreed????? instead of using a VERY WRONG BIBLE LIKE LAMSA AND MOFFAT??????

[1914july27]

sabi mo kaibigan mali ang saling lamsa at moffat kc pomapabor sa iglesia. ngaun basahin natin sa biblia ng katoliko, ito biblia nyo (MAGANDANG BALITA BIBLIA isaia 43:5 huwag kang matakot, sapagkat akoy kasama mo titipunin ko kayo mula sa DULONG SILANGAN hanggang sa kanluran, at ibabalik ko kayo sa inyong dating tahanan) isaia 24:15 kayat luwalhatiin ninyo ang panginoon sa SILANGAN sa makatuwid bagay ng paNGINOON NG DIOS ng israel, sa mga PULO NG DAGAT.

[WillyiSanggago]

yang iglesia ni manalo kc gumagamit yan ng ibat ibang biblia pra sumang ayon dun s ibig nilang plitawin n pliwanag kya khit biblia ng protestante o katoliko n klaban nla eh gnagamit. gamitin sna nila ung biblia n galing s original n salin ang pgka translate ung mga bible n sinalin n wla png vested interest ang author

[WillyiSanggago]

panoorin nyo po ang Iglsia n cristo vs sda nwalang kalaban laban c ventilador k thomson d nya npatunayan ang side ng Inc puro phanga lng s audience ang gnagwa . July 27, 1914 ang petsa kng saan lumitaw ang iglesia ng demonyo s pinas nwalang gnawa ang puno kundi magpyaman lng at yun namatay s takot s add

[damakngapato]

@WillyiSanggago

pyaman?baka si soriano...ksi sa anim na kuntenente ng mundo matibay na nakatatag ang iglesia ni cristo sa labas ng pilipinas..hnd pa yaman yan...maraming sambahan ang iglesia ni cristo sa labas ng pilipinas..wag kayung mag salita na lng basta basta na hndi nyo alam..Wala naman kayung katibayan na nag papayaman ang taga pamahalang pang kahalatan..nakikita nyo sa sambahan ng iglesia.hnd yan kupal..totou yan..kaya dahan dahan lng kayu mag salita..

[WillyiSanggago]

@damakngapato...yang post mo yan b ang ktibayan ng toto n kayo..yang sambahan nyo utos b ng Dios yan s kristyano n magtayo ng kpilya o kpritsuhan lng ng puno mo yan..hindi mo alam n #1 billionaire preacher c erano manalo....san b nkapangalan lahat ng pag aari ng iglesia nyo db s manalo family..nagsasalita ako dhil alam ko yang iglesia n yan ay hindi totoo... ang totoong iglesia ay tatag ng Dios hindi ng tao n c manalo...pra mlaman mo..

[damakngapato]

oo kasi nsa bibliya na ang pnagalan ay iglesia ni cristo.patibayan mo na ang lahat ng kapilya ay nasa pangalan ng manga manalo.salita lng na d totou,wla knmang katibayan..patibayan mo muna bago ka mag salita..nasa bibliya namn na ang ilgesia lilitaw,si cristo ang may ari ng iglesia hnd si ka felix,.pinahayag lng ni ka felix ang katutohanan..kng hnd sana na totou ang iglesia hnd sana nka abot ang iglesia sa boung mundo..wag kang mag salita na d mo alam.

[WillyiSanggago]

@damakpato...ang ktibayan ay hindi nka pangalan syo o khit kninong member nyo..ang pangalan ng iglesia n nsa biblia ay Iglesia ng Dios ang nagtatag nito ay ang Dios Ama at syang may ari n naging pag aari din n cristo, hindi c cristo ang nagtatag naintindihan mo..c cristo ang ulo nito..cno nagsabi n lilitaw ang iglesia bkit lumubog b ito? pag naka abot b s ibang bansa ang isang iglesia totoo n? ung katolik, SDA, mormons, jehhovah atbp umabot din s ibang bansa totoo nb ito lahat? sagot

[nilofc]

Any protestant group in the Philippines can start a new Church and call themselves "Church of Christ"...and that will certainly defeat the argument of INC. So that means...this new denomination is also the true church of Christ because they have the same name.... hahaha. It's funny..... and a very weak argument.

[nilofc]

Kung sa dami lang nang simbahan ang pag uusapan..eh di lalong nabaon kayo sa Katoliko.

[kenrmrz12345]

bago ka magsalita dyan, mag-isip ka muna! kayo lang ng mga jehovas witness at mormon na kinakalaban nyo rin ang gumagamit ng maling bibliya na yan!!!!

[raimondbartolo]

kenrmrz12345 ...ha..ha...ahay BOBO KANG TALAGA KENRMRZ12345

HINDI MO PA BA NADINIG YUNG MOFFATH TRANS . NG BIBLE!!ha..ha..hah

nakalagay dun MALINAW NA MALINAW

FROM the FAR EAST..i will BRING your

OFFSPRING..and from THE FARWEST i

will GATHERED YOU.. ha..ha..ha.

SABLAY KA NA NAMAN mr kenrmrz12345

BOBO KA PA SA bible MAG RESEARCH

KA NA NGA MUNA BAGO KA MAG COMMENT!! natatae lang ako sa yo!!

maari ka pa sana e no.. KUNG ADD ang mga KAUSAP MO pareho mo yun pala imbento ng sinasabi!!!

[nilofc]

Your hatred really reflects the sanctity of your man-made religion.

Nice.....

Self defeating though. lol.

[kenrmrz12345]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! mr. ventilation discovered its discrepancy!!!! he already concluded that the far east is indeed the philippines!!! where in fact thre are many countries in the far east!!!

PLUS!!!!!! THRE IS NO FAR EAST IN THE BIBLE!!!!! ONLY EAST!!!!

IGLESIA KEP INSISTING THAT IT IS FAR EAST WHERE INFACT THE REAL TRANSLATION IS ONLY EAST!!!!

SUCH A LIAR!!!!

[imchrismondo]

geologically speaking, the Philippines is considered in the far east. you learn that in science in grade school lol.

[nilofc]

So you say that the Rock whom Jesus laid the foundation of his church ....was Manalo?

haha...

I thought it was Peter.