A very good presentation and it was funny at parts as well.
I was a little unsure what he meant about criminals, see MPAA for a stupid definition..., but I sense hes not on their side or he wouldnt have added the PirateBay icon on hes slide show of services. I agree with him. We need to make the internet secure for the public. Making it secure for governments and companies is only partially valid. Usually the later goals for "secure" go to far and reduces public access and freedoms.
I urge anyone who watches this to take a step back, ignore Mr. Hypponen's brilliant presentations skills, and think about what this guy is really selling here. He wants the Internet policed, and is using fear and hatred to convince people to buy in to this idea.
"We run the risk of losing it all"? Come on, please! SOPA is the only thing that will lose it all!!!
Also pay attention to the (dramatic) examples he is using - 20 year old viruses, and ALL of them on Microsoft Windows (or MS-DOS).
@Robbi159 But what Mr. Hypponen is suggesting is 'policing the Internet to make it safe'. In order to implement what he is suggesting in this talk would mean creating legislation that allows governments (perhaps not even your own government) to spy on your online activities to make sure you're not one of the bad guys.
@AndyTurfer I was not aware he suggested that they would be allowed to spy, which I am STRONGLY against but there are other ways of preventing online crime.
@AndyTurfer What I dont get is, if they "tighten up" on the internatioal level, he would be out of a job.......... therefore he needs virus writers. This is what I do not believe him like what you said. If you people do not want a virus, just use Linux, Ubuntu - very simple.
@yoyuepz He would not be out of a job as he (his company) would be one of those assigned to '...police the Internet...'. His company would become one of the the gatekeepers of the Internet. Mr. Hypponen would be able to live his romanticised fantasy of becoming one of the new breed of cyber law enforcement detectives protecting those who are unable to protect themselves (and he could probably dress up in spandex and roller-blade around catching bad guys - like on that movie "Hackers").
There is viruses for Linux and there is more coming every year. If Ubuntu will become really popular there will even more viruses for that OS. It's a myth that there ain't viruses for Linux... sames goes to Mac.
Why? Because there is no point making viruses for OS what has very few users globally... at moment.
The only thing this guy is fighting is the last true free democracy left on the planet - the Internet. Take a look at what's happening with SOPA. This clown is one of those people who want the Internet turned into a police state. If you don't want viruses, use Linux.
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I loved this presentation, but he is missing the big picture. It doesn't matter much global authority/coordination we have or how many online criminals we catch; more will always pop up. The only solution is to end the root cause of the problem, which is the monetary system itself. Cyber-crime, just like all crime, is merely a symptom of a failed system. What we NEED is a resource-based economy!
@aarongrooves Agree fully about resource based economy, but this is way to radical for our savage primitive minds to absorb at present. I've heard all the arguments about 'incentive would disappear' to 'you communist bastard'. Personally, I blame the current system for starvation, crime, homelessness, war, and stifling progress and innovation. We would be a far more advanced race if people did things because they loved doing it, not because of salary brackets and bonuses.
@PERSONIFICATIONOFYAY Don't be! What those original virus writers did was expose a weakness within an operating system. The fact that the vendor (Microsoft) hasn't learnt from this in 25 years puts the shame firmly on Microsoft. It would be a very sad world if we lacked pioneers who are willing to push technology, who are willing to explore areas outside of what is considered mainstream. People like Basset and Amjat are far more valuable to the Internet than Mr. Hypponen.
imagine how many a-holes are looking at this the wrong way, and imagine how they can do exactly what he described was bad for the internet for the sake of personal gain...
I know someone who did virus on Apple II and Atari before that time frame. They were just proving the concept with no harm, but probably one of the first to do a "virus".
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@yourtube20061 Except they won't really be paying for policing. They'll be paying massive amounts to ineffectual private agencies that make the problem worse.
Let me see if I have a clear picture of the issue: Mac computers don't get viruses because of how the OS is written, correct that please as accurately as you can, because my question is in regards to that piece of info.
My question is: Isn't Microsoft actually encouraging criminals and such by not adopting Apple's way of writing their OS?
@elchafa Is that a serious Q? Of course! Even I can write a MAC virus...it's not even that hard. It's just a waste of time for all the malware creators if they can infect so many more computers writing viruses for other systems ... There have been multiple iOS and MAC viruses in the past ... just Google it.
@GoldenerFoetus I'm sorry mr smarty panty I guess I should know everything so i don't ask dumb questions and make a fool out of myself in the eyes of the anons... I feel so embarassed
@elchafa Actually, you should. The first step before asking any question ever (especially on the web) should be a quick 10 second internet search which could have given you the answer ... btw: I just looked up "anons" because I had no idea what you were referring to... no I know... I rest my case.
@GoldenerFoetus All I mean is that it's not that big of a deal, I just asked a question for which I preferred a human answer. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If nobody felt it was a pertinent question, then no one would have answered. It's that simple. Another person felt like answering and they did. Just two people having a conversation, it's actually something positive.
Two interesting things. At 3:20 you see he has an Apple computer (less vulnerable to virus attacks) And also at the end he proposes an international type of law enforcement. Something that the NWO would be pleased with. In reality there are companies that are at or own the bottle necks that the internet moves through. Require a country to police it's own or be denied service. (Sorry Nigeria) Local problems are best dealt with locally. Airlines are the other bottle neck.
@MrSprytee That would be both incredibly expensive and result in high latency. Pluss, new viruses and bug exploits may take some time to identify and not be visible (findable) in the code the first time you view (search) it when you don't know what you're looking for.
on a personal level, i sincerely hope that only small percentage of users use a mac - now, and generations from now. smaller the target, harder to hit - or at least, why would anyone bother with a hit. fingers crossed :)
@leechmasterb I'd go as far as to say that as long as there's money there will be crime in all it's variants. Why do any criminals commit crimes (not psychos, that's a whole other issue related to mental instability)? The do it for profit. The only reason any criminal has ever committed a crime is money; perhaps not the only, but most certainly the main one.
@johnwang67 but it all comes down to people with the skills to commit crime, like he said, but yes you might be right. But soon this might become a worser problem.
There will be no significant change in criminal behavior in a monetary system. I advocate transitioning into a resource based economy, as imagined by the Venus Project and promoted by the Zeitgeist Movement.
@esperanza31288 Wall street systemically committed fraud and the US gov didn't do shit to have them arrested. ONE guy got arrested if I'm not mistaken. Google moves money overseas in order to avoid taxes. What is stupid about thinking they are criminals?
@LAnonHubbard I dont know why i need to explain this but it seems i do: you are using a web browser to connect to this site, right? Now isn't that a "static file"? Figure out my point yourself.
@Thimmet "I dont know why i need to explain this but it seems i do: you are using a web browser to connect to this site, right? Now isn't that a "static file"?"
The content displayed in the browser doesn't necessarily have to come from a static file. It's data received over the h t t p protocol and rendered in the browser (perhaps via some additional client-side scripting but that's irrelevant). It could be generated on the fly remotely and never be stored locally. Comprendez?
@LAnonHubbard Oh ok. But you didnt prove that he didnt connect to F-Secures servers through that file. I dont know why you even pointed out that he wouldnt have. Over and out.
@Thimmet "But you didnt prove that he didnt connect to F-Secures servers through that file."
As I said, the browser's address is pointing to a file on the C drive. Take a look. It is using the file protocol, not the h t t p one. I pointed it out because he said he was connecting back to his lab systems over the web in real-time when he clearly wasn't. He was being deceptive. I completely understand why he wasn't going over the web. That's not my point. It's just the lie I wanted to highlight.
"I had two links for all the sites I connected to: a real, live link and a local copy. On stage, the live link proved to be too slow. So I chickened out and used the local copies. Yeah, I know."
@LAnonHubbard Wouldn't that be because it's a video recorded speech given to an audience by an ANTI-Virus legend. Would say it'd be adumb assumption to not save the page to a local copy of an .HTM rather than giving a full URL of the anti-virus lab to the world. It was probably a saved screen scrape from just before the speech. Or maybe the URL was spoofed. Ranked top 50 in the world as far as importance of web users.
@johnwang67 If banks, corporations and governments are the worst criminals, does it mean that we should not pursue lesser criminals that are still making millions by causing both financial harm to users and businesses?
good speech and show, but bad bad idea putting global government in control. I'd rather keep it like it is, then turn over the net to a global security system with government's ability to shut down the internet to suppress free speech. Wrongful convictions, harassment and intimidation of citizens. Very bad move and I'd never want a global internet police. The internet should always be the wild wild west. A true place of freedom, to say, post, think and express yourself any way you wish.
@qoaa If things goes badly and criminals gets a hold of internet, internet would become the opposite of freedom. You couldn't write any controversial opinions because some one might track you down and blackmail you. You couldn't watch weird porn. You couldn't buy absolutely anything from the internet or pay bills in the internet. Eventually every one would just stop using it.
why can't we go back the viruses that were simply amusing, like an ambulance going on your screen, or a ghost floating past? those were funny, not the kind that will steal all your money and personal info?
Because instead of kids writing these things you have organized crime writing them.
These days the equivalent of those programs is doing ddos attacks and taking down servers temporarily by overwhelming them with traffic. This happened to Sony many times this year due to many unpopular decisions that they made.
However, you see way more news coverage of that kind of stuff than you do about keyloggers and the threat of organized crime.
tell me a reporter who would write about organized criminals
although I think that freedom of speech and the truth should always be in the public, think of all those who are threatened and tightened just because they want to bring the truth to public
org. crime is based on extortion and intimidation to bring fear, who wants to risk family, himself
the modern world is so corrupt, including officials, prosecutors, that the truth comes forth only rarely;
entertaining, interesting, but I dont like his attitude towards online crime...the things he brought up are nothing, just some meaningless numbers flying around on the net. If a guy is smart enough to pull off something like that, then by all means, go ahead and have the money. There are way worse stuff than that in the world...
@sokseb So then if somebody got control of your credit card number and can spend all of your money you would say to them: "Good job man, you are so smart that you got something of mine that i dont want to have. Im not even mad at you, im impressed, go ahead with your life and keep doing what your doing."
@amilo962 It is encrypted when it gets transferred over the internet, but programs such as key loggers that are on your computer can read the data before it gets encrypted.
A critical component to the new rise in cyber crime is layoffs that started occurring around the time of the market crash in both the networking and cyber security workforce. There are now a great deal of unemployed and disgruntled people with sophisticated skillsets out there, and it seems organized crime is the only sector that's hiring.
who started scanning their computer for virus after this video??
sonnyboi83 1 month ago
... you know what is more shocking about this video... he has a floppy dick player... O_O
PestoPosta 1 month ago
A very good presentation and it was funny at parts as well.
I was a little unsure what he meant about criminals, see MPAA for a stupid definition..., but I sense hes not on their side or he wouldnt have added the PirateBay icon on hes slide show of services. I agree with him. We need to make the internet secure for the public. Making it secure for governments and companies is only partially valid. Usually the later goals for "secure" go to far and reduces public access and freedoms.
Lobos222 1 month ago
The virus list is not live. It's local html document.
YouHolli 1 month ago
Wait, there are laptops with internal floppy drives???
YouHolli 1 month ago
It brang us porn.
NewGamer101 1 month ago
I urge anyone who watches this to take a step back, ignore Mr. Hypponen's brilliant presentations skills, and think about what this guy is really selling here. He wants the Internet policed, and is using fear and hatred to convince people to buy in to this idea.
"We run the risk of losing it all"? Come on, please! SOPA is the only thing that will lose it all!!!
Also pay attention to the (dramatic) examples he is using - 20 year old viruses, and ALL of them on Microsoft Windows (or MS-DOS).
AndyTurfer 1 month ago
@AndyTurfer Theres a difference between a safe internet and a policed internet.
Robbi159 1 month ago
@Robbi159 But what Mr. Hypponen is suggesting is 'policing the Internet to make it safe'. In order to implement what he is suggesting in this talk would mean creating legislation that allows governments (perhaps not even your own government) to spy on your online activities to make sure you're not one of the bad guys.
AndyTurfer 1 month ago
@AndyTurfer I was not aware he suggested that they would be allowed to spy, which I am STRONGLY against but there are other ways of preventing online crime.
Robbi159 1 month ago
Also, he looks untrustworthy - like one of the bad guys from Die Hard who tried to kill Bruce Willis!
AndyTurfer 2 months ago
@AndyTurfer What I dont get is, if they "tighten up" on the internatioal level, he would be out of a job.......... therefore he needs virus writers. This is what I do not believe him like what you said. If you people do not want a virus, just use Linux, Ubuntu - very simple.
yoyuepz 2 months ago
@yoyuepz He would not be out of a job as he (his company) would be one of those assigned to '...police the Internet...'. His company would become one of the the gatekeepers of the Internet. Mr. Hypponen would be able to live his romanticised fantasy of becoming one of the new breed of cyber law enforcement detectives protecting those who are unable to protect themselves (and he could probably dress up in spandex and roller-blade around catching bad guys - like on that movie "Hackers").
AndyTurfer 1 month ago
@AndyTurfer lol
yoyuepz 1 month ago
@yoyuepz
There is viruses for Linux and there is more coming every year. If Ubuntu will become really popular there will even more viruses for that OS. It's a myth that there ain't viruses for Linux... sames goes to Mac.
Why? Because there is no point making viruses for OS what has very few users globally... at moment.
MokomaSusi 1 month ago
@MokomaSusi Yes there are some, however it is more difficult to hide virus on Linux compared with a Windows system.
yoyuepz 1 month ago
The only thing this guy is fighting is the last true free democracy left on the planet - the Internet. Take a look at what's happening with SOPA. This clown is one of those people who want the Internet turned into a police state. If you don't want viruses, use Linux.
AndyTurfer 2 months ago
@AndyTurfer ah yes use linux... like i said didnt read this comment
yoyuepz 2 months ago
Mikko is answering your questions in the F-Secure Community on December 5-9 2011
ANKU1983 2 months ago
One of the best lectures ever.
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i could listen to Mikko all day!!!
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
Mikko Hypponen: Fighting viruses, defending the net, fucking bitchess, getting money
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And that is why the Global Law Enforcement was created.
Rennonz 4 months ago
@aarongrooves - end the monetary system? no. there are a couple ways i can think of that are vastly more scalable than definitions.
aking1012 4 months ago
I loved this presentation, but he is missing the big picture. It doesn't matter much global authority/coordination we have or how many online criminals we catch; more will always pop up. The only solution is to end the root cause of the problem, which is the monetary system itself. Cyber-crime, just like all crime, is merely a symptom of a failed system. What we NEED is a resource-based economy!
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hippy.
mweagle89 4 months ago
@aarongrooves Agree fully about resource based economy, but this is way to radical for our savage primitive minds to absorb at present. I've heard all the arguments about 'incentive would disappear' to 'you communist bastard'. Personally, I blame the current system for starvation, crime, homelessness, war, and stifling progress and innovation. We would be a far more advanced race if people did things because they loved doing it, not because of salary brackets and bonuses.
AndyTurfer 1 month ago
I would marry this man!
Fyerwithin 5 months ago
interesting indeed :)
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Why not Declare Amnesty for the so called free world.):-).
reddysnet 5 months ago
Declare Amnesty for the so called free world.):-).
reddysnet 5 months ago
declare amnesty for handicapped partners of the so called free world
reddysnet 5 months ago
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PERSONIFICATIONOFYAY 5 months ago
@PERSONIFICATIONOFYAY Don't be! What those original virus writers did was expose a weakness within an operating system. The fact that the vendor (Microsoft) hasn't learnt from this in 25 years puts the shame firmly on Microsoft. It would be a very sad world if we lacked pioneers who are willing to push technology, who are willing to explore areas outside of what is considered mainstream. People like Basset and Amjat are far more valuable to the Internet than Mr. Hypponen.
AndyTurfer 1 month ago
he didn't mentioned Remote Administration Tools, they win!
mladen190 6 months ago
too short! far too short! Really wish I was there!
Mackingzie 6 months ago
love this guy, reminds me of weird AL in his good days
Tolstoievsky 6 months ago
All i got to say is keep your hand off our internet! this is the only freedom we get. stop trying to control it and implace your rule of laws
Duhitpt 6 months ago
Great talk!
Jeroenz0r 6 months ago
im getting a mac
hawkd68 6 months ago
lol he's just a poser
MrSlingdad 6 months ago
I want his dialect
TastyPie95 6 months ago 2
@TastyPie95 I´m personally trying to avoid his dialect, that´s the legendary Finnish accent
NicoleEtJoelle 6 months ago
@NicoleEtJoelle I want optional dialects, to be able to switch back and forth between them.
I´ve only mastered the "So swedish that even the swedes thinks it´s annoying" dialect
TastyPie95 6 months ago
@TastyPie95 I have a British accent that my sisters think is gay, and I have never been to Great Britain
NicoleEtJoelle 6 months ago
@NicoleEtJoelle Wear your accent with pride, for the british variety of accents is awesome.
TastyPie95 6 months ago
mikko's a boss.
swordsdancer 6 months ago
very interesting.
imagine how many a-holes are looking at this the wrong way, and imagine how they can do exactly what he described was bad for the internet for the sake of personal gain...
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Thumbs up if you live in finland
ronald010ify 6 months ago 79
Thumbs Up for Piratebay logo.
eu2cy 6 months ago 79
WOO... once you finish watching one TEDtalk, you'll become addicted. So interesting!
SoThisOneDude 6 months ago
Nice talk! Mikko speaks pretty good English, however someone could tell him that there is no "Y-sound" in English (i mean the Finnish y-sound). :)
Albatrossi 6 months ago
@Albatrossi "someone could tell him that there is no "Y-sound" in English (i mean the Finnish y-sound). :)"
How do you pronounce e.g. "new" and "view" then? ;-)
clothearednincompoop 6 months ago
@clothearednincompoop [njuu] and [vjuu] ...roughly said. Put those words on google translate and listen. ;-)
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Camguide 6 months ago
So this Keylogger. Is making Money. By COPYING your Google Searches.
.....................
MaZe741 6 months ago
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Really cool to watch.
fartspray4you 6 months ago
presenting like a BOSS .
sakokosa 6 months ago 73
I know someone who did virus on Apple II and Atari before that time frame. They were just proving the concept with no harm, but probably one of the first to do a "virus".
GreatG0dOm 6 months ago
These petty crimes are the LEAST and dumbest reason to create an internet police. ow, and train people in cyber hacking for the government.
fuck this.
the internet is the only thing that can save us as a species.
we must protect it, to be FREE.
superdiza 6 months ago
.REQUEST to give DEATH PANALITY FOR me,my mother ,and father ,and even to my two brothers,and one sister to soul ,grand soul ,kundaliy , by giving or injecting poision ( which science & scientits can produce ) and ( shown in the "dasavataram "tamil & hindi india movie )burn infront of everyone on the earth only .
bgupta2001 7 months ago
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in india ,tamilnadu ,human souls are taken under earth ,under rocks ,even to several thousnds kilometers under rocks and given differnt shapes .in sevrages , and made aliens .please save ..taking under earth and beating and burning .please save .to every one .every molecules .and request to bring all the creatures from under earth to on earth .please save from pains ,sufferings .please save
bgupta2001 7 months ago
request ,help
every bad things ,destructions happens because of me .
message for request .please request you to at the time ancient ,puranic times ,there may be mistake of one or two persons .mistakes would have been due to bad wisedom or bad fate and could not come out of sins which made sinner .at that time itself mistakes would have rectified and proper steps would have taken for betterment that mistakes should not be repeated .there would have been no bad happenings..
bgupta2001 7 months ago
So what's your solution Mr smart azz. F-Secure?, Stop using windows?
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youneekk 7 months ago
Anyone who likes this talk but would prefer it in Tom Clancy form should watch Live Free or Die Hard starring Bruce Willis.
ehhhhhhhhhh 7 months ago
Bast and Amjad!
First PC Virus Developers!
ahmadmit 7 months ago
Give the american govt this idea, they will unleash the "War on cyber-criminals" and of course the tax payer will pay for this world policing.
yourtube20061 7 months ago
@yourtube20061 Except they won't really be paying for policing. They'll be paying massive amounts to ineffectual private agencies that make the problem worse.
devourerofbabies 7 months ago
@devourerofbabies ya,i agree, they are perfecting the art of wasting money and going deeper in debt !!
yourtube20061 7 months ago
I saw a PirateBay logo in there :D
trixter21992251 7 months ago
This guy is awesome
Rarae192 7 months ago
25 years since a virus his the net? Bit lively, the internet in 1986 then? :)
krytenofsmeg 7 months ago
All around a great, GREAT talk.
That's why I believe in Stand Alone Computers.
And I know what they do to online-criminals... they hire them.
leonidasx666 7 months ago 4
Dear Mikko Hypponen: You fucking rock.
khaluathegreat 7 months ago
Let me see if I have a clear picture of the issue: Mac computers don't get viruses because of how the OS is written, correct that please as accurately as you can, because my question is in regards to that piece of info.
My question is: Isn't Microsoft actually encouraging criminals and such by not adopting Apple's way of writing their OS?
elchafa 7 months ago
@elchafa
Macs don't get viruses because it used to be that 98% of comps were PCs and virus makers didn't want to waste time targeting 2% of computer owners.
MrAlphabet126 7 months ago
@MrAlphabet126 for real? So theoretically Macs can get infected if virus writers wanted to?
elchafa 7 months ago
@elchafa
As far as I know, yes.
MrAlphabet126 7 months ago
@elchafa Is that a serious Q? Of course! Even I can write a MAC virus...it's not even that hard. It's just a waste of time for all the malware creators if they can infect so many more computers writing viruses for other systems ... There have been multiple iOS and MAC viruses in the past ... just Google it.
GoldenerFoetus 7 months ago
@GoldenerFoetus I'm sorry mr smarty panty I guess I should know everything so i don't ask dumb questions and make a fool out of myself in the eyes of the anons... I feel so embarassed
elchafa 7 months ago
@elchafa Actually, you should. The first step before asking any question ever (especially on the web) should be a quick 10 second internet search which could have given you the answer ... btw: I just looked up "anons" because I had no idea what you were referring to... no I know... I rest my case.
GoldenerFoetus 7 months ago
@GoldenerFoetus All I mean is that it's not that big of a deal, I just asked a question for which I preferred a human answer. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If nobody felt it was a pertinent question, then no one would have answered. It's that simple. Another person felt like answering and they did. Just two people having a conversation, it's actually something positive.
I hope you don't hold it against me. Peace.
elchafa 7 months ago
@elchafa Nah, it's all cool. I still love you. I love everyone.
GoldenerFoetus 6 months ago
this guy is the batman of the internet
sanjay926 7 months ago 7
@sanjay926 Mild mannered lecturer by day, at night he dons a mask and becomes BRONY MAN, defender of the internets.
devourerofbabies 7 months ago
nice presentation !
scary stuff.
MusicForYourFunk 7 months ago
Dear TED,
please bring more people like this guy.
Thanks in advance.
cynik45ACP 7 months ago 4
Two interesting things. At 3:20 you see he has an Apple computer (less vulnerable to virus attacks) And also at the end he proposes an international type of law enforcement. Something that the NWO would be pleased with. In reality there are companies that are at or own the bottle necks that the internet moves through. Require a country to police it's own or be denied service. (Sorry Nigeria) Local problems are best dealt with locally. Airlines are the other bottle neck.
briansmobile1 7 months ago
great talk, cheers
Kaeralho 7 months ago
I agree with other commenters that this is finally a great talk again after a period of good and mediocre talks.
gulllars 7 months ago
1:12 - LET ME SHOW YA SOMETHING!!!
Zormac 7 months ago 2
Create a webbrowser that runs internet through a secure company that checks trafic before giving you the information or file.
MrSprytee 7 months ago
@MrSprytee That would be both incredibly expensive and result in high latency. Pluss, new viruses and bug exploits may take some time to identify and not be visible (findable) in the code the first time you view (search) it when you don't know what you're looking for.
gulllars 7 months ago
Wait a minute!
Why is he using Windows?
Maybe another joke like the slides?
amaasbier 7 months ago
on a personal level, i sincerely hope that only small percentage of users use a mac - now, and generations from now. smaller the target, harder to hit - or at least, why would anyone bother with a hit. fingers crossed :)
actigene2 7 months ago
@actigene2 There's already viruses for macs and Safari browser has gaping security holes which most are disregarded by Apple.
Reavaverho 7 months ago
As long as there is money you will have hackers, why not just get rid of the money to solve the problem?
leechmasterb 7 months ago 2
@leechmasterb I'd go as far as to say that as long as there's money there will be crime in all it's variants. Why do any criminals commit crimes (not psychos, that's a whole other issue related to mental instability)? The do it for profit. The only reason any criminal has ever committed a crime is money; perhaps not the only, but most certainly the main one.
elchafa 7 months ago
@johnwang67 but it all comes down to people with the skills to commit crime, like he said, but yes you might be right. But soon this might become a worser problem.
adriantween584 7 months ago
@johnwang67 In the immoral words of Berthold Brecht: "What is robbing a bank compared to establishing one?"
gmayer66 7 months ago 3
There will be no significant change in criminal behavior in a monetary system. I advocate transitioning into a resource based economy, as imagined by the Venus Project and promoted by the Zeitgeist Movement.
Lightrider4444 7 months ago
Think that this guy can be anonymous it can be any one :O)
sylve6 7 months ago
so... let me just run some viruses on my computer!
srgwarcock 7 months ago
@johnwang67 i love how dumb comments like this always get thumbs up lol
esperanza31288 7 months ago
@esperanza31288 Wall street systemically committed fraud and the US gov didn't do shit to have them arrested. ONE guy got arrested if I'm not mistaken. Google moves money overseas in order to avoid taxes. What is stupid about thinking they are criminals?
2Critical4You 7 months ago
@esperanza31288 Plus that stuxnet was written by the US and Israel.
2Critical4You 7 months ago
The guy is awesome anyway.
Frippmore 7 months ago
I love his accent, he sounds like a bond villain.
"Let me explain my brilliant plan for world domination, before I kill you, mr. Bond." :-)
Pulsar89 7 months ago 3
Having a picture of the pirate bay is kind of ironic lol
MrJdonks 7 months ago
lol The Pirate Bay @ 15:45
deathreaver3356 7 months ago
If you are interested in a detailed video on his visit to Pakistan. watch?v=lnedOWfPKT0
TheMechengr 7 months ago
4:14
the audience is all stoned
Frances3654 7 months ago 5
@Frances3654 lol
Thimmet 7 months ago
Amazing talk
DeoMachina 7 months ago
greetings fellow redditor
333irani333 7 months ago
5:21 "Infact if I just connect back to our lab systems through the web we can see in real-time..."
Yeah, right - so why's the browser address pointing to a static file on the C drive? LOL
LAnonHubbard 7 months ago 23
@LAnonHubbard I dont know why i need to explain this but it seems i do: you are using a web browser to connect to this site, right? Now isn't that a "static file"? Figure out my point yourself.
Thimmet 7 months ago
@Thimmet "I dont know why i need to explain this but it seems i do: you are using a web browser to connect to this site, right? Now isn't that a "static file"?"
The content displayed in the browser doesn't necessarily have to come from a static file. It's data received over the h t t p protocol and rendered in the browser (perhaps via some additional client-side scripting but that's irrelevant). It could be generated on the fly remotely and never be stored locally. Comprendez?
LAnonHubbard 7 months ago 7
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Thimmet 7 months ago
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Thimmet 7 months ago
@LAnonHubbard Oh ok. But you didnt prove that he didnt connect to F-Secures servers through that file. I dont know why you even pointed out that he wouldnt have. Over and out.
Thimmet 7 months ago
@Thimmet "But you didnt prove that he didnt connect to F-Secures servers through that file."
As I said, the browser's address is pointing to a file on the C drive. Take a look. It is using the file protocol, not the h t t p one. I pointed it out because he said he was connecting back to his lab systems over the web in real-time when he clearly wasn't. He was being deceptive. I completely understand why he wasn't going over the web. That's not my point. It's just the lie I wanted to highlight.
LAnonHubbard 7 months ago
@LAnonHubbard LMAO sharp eyes xD
Lexygoy 6 months ago
@LAnonHubbard database.
TheTranceSeeker 6 months ago
@LAnonHubbard He explains on Reddit
"I had two links for all the sites I connected to: a real, live link and a local copy. On stage, the live link proved to be too slow. So I chickened out and used the local copies. Yeah, I know."
GabofFunk 6 months ago
@GabofFunk "He explains on Reddit..."
Thanks for the update!
LAnonHubbard 6 months ago
@LAnonHubbard Wouldn't that be because it's a video recorded speech given to an audience by an ANTI-Virus legend. Would say it'd be adumb assumption to not save the page to a local copy of an .HTM rather than giving a full URL of the anti-virus lab to the world. It was probably a saved screen scrape from just before the speech. Or maybe the URL was spoofed. Ranked top 50 in the world as far as importance of web users.
jackskellington1502 6 months ago
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HypnoticSuggestion 6 months ago
@LAnonHubbard obviously this was for "show" and demonstration.
conman2317 6 months ago
@conman2317 Thanks for explaining that
LAnonHubbard 6 months ago
@LAnonHubbard LOL!
thehsdd 6 months ago
global policing? team america
veryveryannoying 7 months ago
at 15:00 loll hahah nice
aquariusdc1 7 months ago
@johnwang67 If banks, corporations and governments are the worst criminals, does it mean that we should not pursue lesser criminals that are still making millions by causing both financial harm to users and businesses?
jwikholm 7 months ago
I laughed when he said, how he found the two Pakistanis. made me wonder whether it went the same with Bin Laden. haha
Humanoids 7 months ago 3
This guy would have been a hell of a hacker
MihaZ 7 months ago
@MihaZ he prolly is, savior and protector during the day, hacker at night. noone would suspect him either. the perfect crime.
KingRockets 7 months ago
A book or movie based on the ideas in this would be EPIC
dylanlawless1 7 months ago
fuck anti net neutrality propaganda!
88plof 7 months ago
@88plof How's that?
Saerain 7 months ago
entertaining piece of propaganda
BroBroDude 7 months ago
global police, the.. global virus
victoremanuela 7 months ago
@AlyoshaHuckelberry what kind of propaganda is that exactly?
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terranjingle 7 months ago
he didnt recommend any anti-virus software >.<, great speech thumbs up
Myrmidon717 7 months ago
@Myrmidon717 He posted on Reddit and recommended F-Secure. It's the top anti-virus according to AV-Comparatives. He also worked on F-Secure.
veeableful 7 months ago
Something else that needs to be said is that this is one sexy net crime fighter. Way hot.
manhunter79 7 months ago
The Pirate Bay!
willowtreephoto 7 months ago
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Saerain 7 months ago
@Saerain 15:50 his transparency slide has The Pirate Bay listed and I think that's awesome.
willowtreephoto 7 months ago
one of the better speeches
lytealight 7 months ago
Relevant:
I love this talk and the person giving it
NerdyLiberal 7 months ago
good speech and show, but bad bad idea putting global government in control. I'd rather keep it like it is, then turn over the net to a global security system with government's ability to shut down the internet to suppress free speech. Wrongful convictions, harassment and intimidation of citizens. Very bad move and I'd never want a global internet police. The internet should always be the wild wild west. A true place of freedom, to say, post, think and express yourself any way you wish.
qoaa 7 months ago 11
@qoaa If things goes badly and criminals gets a hold of internet, internet would become the opposite of freedom. You couldn't write any controversial opinions because some one might track you down and blackmail you. You couldn't watch weird porn. You couldn't buy absolutely anything from the internet or pay bills in the internet. Eventually every one would just stop using it.
hinnatvoimassa 7 months ago 4
Irrelevant:
First guy Ive ever seen who can pull off a ponytail. ^_^
NerdyLiberal 7 months ago 4
why can't we go back the viruses that were simply amusing, like an ambulance going on your screen, or a ghost floating past? those were funny, not the kind that will steal all your money and personal info?
IHereVoices 7 months ago
@IHereVoices
Because instead of kids writing these things you have organized crime writing them.
These days the equivalent of those programs is doing ddos attacks and taking down servers temporarily by overwhelming them with traffic. This happened to Sony many times this year due to many unpopular decisions that they made.
However, you see way more news coverage of that kind of stuff than you do about keyloggers and the threat of organized crime.
david0aloha 7 months ago
@david0aloha
tell me a reporter who would write about organized criminals
although I think that freedom of speech and the truth should always be in the public, think of all those who are threatened and tightened just because they want to bring the truth to public
org. crime is based on extortion and intimidation to bring fear, who wants to risk family, himself
the modern world is so corrupt, including officials, prosecutors, that the truth comes forth only rarely;
Anna Politkovskaya in memoriam
westerner74 7 months ago
Holy Crap this was a good Talk
teapot55 7 months ago
Man, where are Bob and Enzo when you need them...?
prohpetsong 7 months ago
A fascinating presentation.. Hyppönen is brilliant.
Thimmet 7 months ago
entertaining, interesting, but I dont like his attitude towards online crime...the things he brought up are nothing, just some meaningless numbers flying around on the net. If a guy is smart enough to pull off something like that, then by all means, go ahead and have the money. There are way worse stuff than that in the world...
sokseb 7 months ago
@sokseb So then if somebody got control of your credit card number and can spend all of your money you would say to them: "Good job man, you are so smart that you got something of mine that i dont want to have. Im not even mad at you, im impressed, go ahead with your life and keep doing what your doing."
I think that your view on this is a bit off
MANWORKER1 7 months ago 2
@johnwang67 hear hear
KaylinJH 7 months ago
Very interesting presentation a good speaker tooo
12101andyoutub 7 months ago 3
@amilo962 It is encrypted when it gets transferred over the internet, but programs such as key loggers that are on your computer can read the data before it gets encrypted.
qenops 7 months ago 2
A critical component to the new rise in cyber crime is layoffs that started occurring around the time of the market crash in both the networking and cyber security workforce. There are now a great deal of unemployed and disgruntled people with sophisticated skillsets out there, and it seems organized crime is the only sector that's hiring.
gyneve 7 months ago
Hyppönen not Hypponen
Pekezuz666 7 months ago 27