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  • It's not about overthrowing the government there's somthing much bigger and much badder than anything you have ever imagined, Fight when the time is right plan your attacks remember we are no terrorists we are aren't insane we saw the truth and are fighting what it gave us, Stand up fight don't laze around.

  • lets overthrow the government like forreal its about time

  • The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look at it without doing anything. Albert Einstein.

    The slogans of Newspeak are, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength. George Orwell.

    Google: Can Bush Be Prosecuted? & Zeitgeist - The Movie

    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Krishnamurti.

    Wiki. Sheeple.

  • You cannot abolish government, only make it more inclusive, accountable, representative, and dedicated to the public service. There are too many of us for an end to mass society - all we can do is give mass society a human face which will entail truly revolutionary action. To wipe out government and mass society you would need a nuclear apocalypse, a viral catacylism or some other horrendous event and it is monstrous to advocate such things. We need solidarity, we need to embrace humanity.

  • Yes, a realistic plan. This is the problem I have with most purist socialists/anarchists. We need to cease the state including it's government not to eliminate it.like many anarchists advocate.

  • I meant to say "seize" the state not cease.

  • so you're in a plane in which the engines stopped working and you want to take over the controls?

  • You replace the engines.

  • while in flight?

    it'd probably be better (easier/safer) to abandon the doomed aircraft.

  • so all we need to do is take those few families that loan money to governments ...(the elitists who think they own the world) and make them into good and generous people?

    is that it? no problem.

  • What we need is popular control, a society where everyone benefits, and where the exploitative elite is overthrown. We cannot do this by destroying society and relapsing into barbarism. We have to transform society radically which is what revolution is all about.

  • i have already passed the threshold, we need more intelligent resistors, keep up the videos.

  • ...organized intelligent resistors.

  • the machine has to have its plug pulled now!!!! there has been no better time (or worse) to rise and bury these animals that preach hope in a fraudulent, vile and debauch political and moral system, stifled with lies and manipulation. peace to the honest man. He shall prevail from this torment of wickedness and stupitidy

  • Just came across this. Very moving.

  • it is time.

    right on.

  • In Canada, I heard Derrick Jensen share these words live ... Derrick speaks the truth.

    Act on it, yes!

  • count me in bro!!!

  • Count me in.

  • count me in

    where do we assemble?

  • wherever we are needed

  • @pennilesscripple

    everywhere.

  • yup we all got to join together

  • fight for what..???? THE NEW WORLD ORDER?? BUSH 911 INSIDE JOB??

  • I recently watched the HBO film on John Adams. The Continental Congress was important in drafting a Declaration and uniting revolutionary minded people. We need a revolution and a declaration of principles to present to the Corporatocracy that is our current leadership, and literally elect new leaders to meet outside the current system. In other words, if you don't like what the current government is doing, start a new one.

    Peace

  • i don't want a government

  • Not even a government without politics?

    I believe governments are necessary. However, less government is possible when we have a Constitution that genuinely liberates us from the tyranny of overlords and corrupt rulers, like nearly everyone in the current system of government. In other words, we don't have to throw out governments just because we have a bad one.

    peace

  • I only speak for myself here, but in my opinion, that would be the same thing as getting rid of cancer, only to replace it with something as harmful.

    It's not that *this* is a bad government. They all are, there is no *good* one among any of them. Ever.

    I want to do away with governments - hell, I want to do away with unsustainable 'mass society' which would even call for the need of a government.

    And without government, things wouldn't look the same, but why would we want them to anyway?

  • mObi, the Republican party has convinced many americans that govt sucks, that it is ineffective and bloated, even while they expanded, corrupted and bloated gov't. The institution of gov't is not the problem. It's the people running it, yet americans keep electing those crooks, even while there are better candidates, more honest, progressives who honestly want govt to work. Until citizens are educated enough to recognize change is within their power, nothing will change. Educate & Enlighten

  • I am not just speaking of the American Republican party, I am referring to all governments, everywhere.

    The institution of government IS the problem, in my opinion.

    The 'better', & 'honest' candidates are just better liars. A politicians job is to get votes and rally support.

    Citizens can't recognize that change is in *their* power until they quit abdicating their power to politicians.

    What I'm saying is that we should work WITH each other, not FOR someone else.

  • vid gives me chills every time. Stand and Fight!!!

  • yes when we remember that no matter how alone we might feel in this fight, there are many people now and throughout history who have felt the same way, we are renewed and gain strength.

    it's all about collective consciousness, the hundredth monkey, critical mass....

    thanks grits

  • Indeed my friend

  • Never mind. I saw it now :p

  • Hey, where did you get this audio?

  • PC marathon, take two. You kick ass.

  • ha

    derrick jensen kicks ass

    wish i could revise this video and put you and some of the other newer peeps in it

    maybe this video called you guys forth ;^)

    (you're making a rough day much less rough, thanks)

  • I think Derrick would agree with me that you kick a lot of ass, as does this vid. It doesn't get much more inspiring than this.

  • Oh yea.. I know whose land it is ; try telling th@ to the est@e agents and other 'owners' all waving their pieces of paper, fighting for their little piece of turf ; )

    We all know the only reason we don't get taxed on the air th@ we bre@h is 'cos the 'owners' can't find a way to meter it...yet! If it ever comes to th@ it won't be worth breathing anyway...

  • yeah some wise person a few years back said, "in the future, you will pay for things that were once free." of course we pay for food, which used to be free, and most of us seem to think that is the way it should be. and we pay for water. and dirt. and 'love.'

    an old saying in the south used to be 'he's so slick he could sell pine straw in georgia.' well they now pay for pine straw in georgia.

  • Thanks for the vid st@ement and links, 'pennilesscripple'.

    How low will people go before saying ENOUGH!!

    I have no land to drive my stake in. I always have it @ hand though, should a chance occur to it put through the heart of the bloodsucking vampires th@ are leaching the life out of our planet.

    Sadly the only 'stakes' some will be driving are the beef steaks in their 4x4's from the 'Stupormarket' to their deepfreezers.

  • thanks, groover

    ha i like the way you put it

    the land you are on is your land

    it always has been

  • Loyal Shawnee right here baby, ready and waiting for the day.

  • today is the day :o)

  • I am so glad I went looking for Ishmael in this virtual sea of video. Ya can't really put a price on knowledge.

  • i'm glad you're here

  • OH MY GOD!

    I just watched Endgame,

    and made a video--linking it up.

    I also linked your page and suggested subbin.

    hope you don't mind.

    I should've asked, but it just seemed like the right thing to do.

    That message was the reason I made my first few YT videos. I just wish I was as smart as Derrick.

  • not at all hooligan thanks bunches

    i was wondering where all those new peeps came from ;^)

    i take it you've found zzz33333's videos? if not, check them out

    you are smart as derrick...we all are

    he is a great writer...you'll love his books

    they're like oxygen

  • U da man!

  • Yeah, I posted the wrong video, as a response. Sometimes I just don't know what I'm thinking.

  • yea, i kinda thought i was just not included. felt a little left out. mistaken identity makes it a lot better.

  • aww man.....

    :(

    glad we finally cleared it up

    i didn't even know who jeff williams *was* until this morning when i happened on him by accident and thought 'hey that looks just like bindeed!'

    pretty sure i've used that picture in other videos too

    funny

  • Shoulder to shoulder brother.

  • and sisters of course. bye babe.

  • Thanks for the links in the description. Very interesting talk.

  • you're welcome glad you found it valuable

    check out his books

    i highly recommend 'the culture of make believe'

    and 'endgame'

    also he's very generous with excerpts on his website

    and there are video interviews with him on redpharmacist's (awesome) youtube channel

  • great tribute- fits perfectly- for a very sad situation :(

  • thank you tommy

    sadly, she didn't get to see this video

    at least from this side of the veil

    i miss her

  • gulp, are you saying she passed on? :(

  • yes

    i was gonna write you

    i think i'll post something soon

    she asked her nurse to close her channel after she passed

    the last time i heard from her she said she felt it would be soon

    :...(

  • oh my, that is so sad :(

    damn that bloody disease to hell! they always take the good ones :(

  • **Smiles**, I am in this video!!!

    STAND AND FIGHT MAN!!! We Don't have a lot of time left!!

  • I am with you, and for all of you cowards who made a negative comment about the video, search your souls and your manhood, for you have lost what is most important in life, your pride, your bravery and your heart. The message of this video is we stand as a community proud and together for apart we are nothing.

  • btw c, i think of you as one of the most awakened, least addicted members of the tribe. i wasn't pointing at you as an example of habituated violence, let's be serious now. i was considering another source of motivation for us all

  • okay well i hear that

    to me my anger is fueled by love

    does that make sense?

    so you could say i'm motivated by love, which sounds better eh?

    by my love for this planet and the creatures i share it with

    and by my anger at what is being done to those i love

    i can't separate them...it's all of a piece....

  • yah i hear that too. do you remember a song, malvina reynolds i think;

    "we are a gentle angry people, and we are singing/ singing for our lives."

  • exactly

  • talkin with a friend from ute res, the trick, she said, is to find ways to wake people up and call them to action *without* resorting to tactics that incite kind of anger that justifies more violence... it's better to stubbornly hold our ground, insist on calling for peace, to be enthusedly taking the peaceful route to change anything, ever.lest we breed more of what we want to put an end to...

  • yes i'm very familiar with that argument.

    that would have been a very successful approach with hitler. love does not imply pacifism. ask any mother whose children are being attacked. the mountains are my sisters, as are the fish and the forests. and they are being attacked. meditating all day long will not keep that from happening.

  • this new age trend among people to see 'anger' as something that needs to be 'eliminated' (i guess that means they 'hate anger'?) is just exactly what the tyrants want so they can continue the destruction of our planet unchecked.

  • i'm middle aged not new age. i see where militant radicalism got my generation. i've seen where violence and anger take things, interpersonally and globally. i don't friggen meditate all day, tho that might help. i seethe, and i ache, i cope with death and dying all around me, i try to protect my kids, and i make crazy little movies, trying to communicate something. i speak out. it's not enough but it's the hummingbird approach to firestorm prevention. peace.

  • re anger... i'm feelin it this moment! i dont think it's gonna help tho, lol... there's a difference between habituated rage and constructively focused action. in a crisis, of course you must respond decisively to stem destruction, but don't get addicted to righteous ire. don't stay in crisis mode all the time.

  • what fuels that action? anger

    i see no 'addiction to rage' in this video, or in my life

    we *are* in a crisis, socks

    no human being can stay in any steady state...anger, joy, grief, etc....eternally...we go in and out of a wide variety of states. but to deny the existence of one over the others...does that help?

    i'm not sure what we're arguing about here, to be honest....

  • this isn't an argument. it's two perpectives. one is that anger is perhaps the only fuel for effective action in a crisis. the other perspective is that we need a cleaner fuel.

  • very well put together my friend.

    good leads in the sidebar. appreciate that!

    eLi.

  • "Fight" needs to be defined. But I'm going to watch Part 2 if I can find it tomorrow. I've sent you a PM. :)

  • yeah it does

    i'll work on that....

  • that would be the diplomatic thing to do.

    may we and this world might find a 21st century way of fighting works better than we have allowed the "Leaders" to teach our children.

  • yes

  • I agree with the sentiment... but I hate violent rhetoric when discussing these issues. It's only ever got us in to trouble before. I might not stand and fight; but I'll certainly stand and speak.

  • yeah well that's the way it's set up, grand--violence only flows from the top down. fear of 'trouble' keeps everything neatly in place. i call the deforestation of our planet, the obliteration or our mountains, the scraping of our seafloor, and the ongoing toxification of our environment and our bodies violence. how do you suggest we address these and other acts of terrorism?

  • also...isn't that what this video, and jensen's talk is? speaking? :) i have a video in the planning stages addressing your point, as it has come up a lot. i trust i can get it made, and maybe it will help move the conversation forward....

  • fight for what?

  • hey somebody--sorry about that. i expected that response, and meant to post an explanation, but was way tired last night when i posted this video. this video is part of an ongoing conversation among many youtubers, orphandrift and zzz33333 and redpharmacist being just a few of them.

  • see the attached videos (one is very short, and should give you and idea) and/or read and/or listen to derrick jensen (he's on youtube and in link in sidebar). zzz33333's 'fight back' would provide another quick explanation. thanks for the question.

  • *an* idea....

  • that was fucking awesome

  • thanks dada

  • Thanks so much for the link to the video.

  • yes there are also a few short (great) interviews with derrick jensen on redpharmacist's youtube channel

  • 00:47?

  • yeah yeah yeah ;^)

  • oh wait a minnit....

    0:47 is derrick jensen (see sidebar)

    i thought you meant 1:05.... ;^)

  • My old eyes sometime don't follow the flow anymore. Merci for your "reconnaissance". And I'll see more about Mr. Derrick Jensen.

  • you'll love him bro

  • But can,t you just feel that pressure?

  • i'm not sure i understand that comment, lapis....

  • Well a metaphorical linespike just

    isn,t gonna do it,you need a huge great

    holdfast for these times.

  • yeah lapis i agree there are picket pins of the mind/heart (necessary) and also in the physical world...is that what you mean? one of the things jensen is referring to is the necessity of establishing and protecting a landbase, and not giving into the illusion that it can't be taken from you by the powers that be, who take whatever they want. is that what you're talking about?

  • Exactly! And illusion is the correct word in

    so many ways,the illusion that the

    "powers that be" think in the same way

    as reasonable human beings is a big mistake to

    make,and the illusion that you,re

    living in a democracy becuse you,re

    "Allowed" to vote.

  • I drove my stake in at Wounded Knee. (4 starz, playlist'd)

  • ha funny you should mention that bob.

    i was thinking of that when i made this.

    thanks

  • expect resistance:1944-11 nazi SS were captured by the russian resisiance, as a young boy poured gas on the SS some pleaded for their lives, some taunted the russians calling them sub-humans, before the gas was lit to burn the SS alive they were all shot dead. even tho they were treated as sub-humans the russians were more humane and never stooped down to the level of the SS

  • One gunslinger said "I don't want to fight no more." The other gunslinger said,"Yeah, what are we fighting for?" And now there ain't been a gunfight for a long time,

    Maybe never, but nobody knows for sure

  • What are we fighting for?

  • hi dr. z--see my response to somebodyiusedtoknow. thank you.

  • (he asked the same question, and i meant to post a pre-emptive response to it last night, but forgot....)

  • I saw myself for an instant :) Thanks for the inspiration. We are all fighters for sure. Which speech is this from?

  • it's linked in the sidebar

  • I drove my stake into the earth during the siege at Waco.

  • yeah it shows :0)

  • damn, i could of been in that, oh well.

  • i know...waaaaa....

    you were in it in my heart, monkeys...

    i was gonna make a list of the 'faceless' folks (actually i did make a list) but i couldn't squooch it into the video

  • Was about to make a video, and now I'm all choked up.

    Thank you.

    Bless you.

    (also love the info box "stop watching crap on youtube and go watch it." Word.)

  • thank you quinn

    i draw strength knowing there are people like you in the world

  • crazy. thanks for provoking thought. rock on p.c. i'm with you.

    mb

  • does the uniform go with my eyes? lol. yeah i made a joke but i'm not taking this lightly.

  • yeah...bloodstained uniform, bloodshot eyes :p

    glad to hear you're not taking it lightly, juggler

  • damn, that's fucked up! xD

    well, not TOO lightly. still just observing. i was militant...something... i dunno, militant asshole i guess up until a few months ago, i started off pissed off a couple of years ago, that turned into hate and before i knew it it was all i could feel. i don;t want to go back there so i'm just trying to feel my way around things at the moment.

    keep....watching...the...skies­! pff i've no idea what i'm saying, i havn't slept in 24 hours xD

  • sweet dreams, juggler

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