Seixas - Sinfonia for strings in B flat Major

[Tomv1750]

@obizin But just to be clear, I think that the possibility that Seixas' concerto was SPECIFICALLY written with a f-p in mind is a rather remote one. If it had been, it would probably have been indicated in the manuscript, in which case musicologists would have been slobbering all over it ever since its rediscovery. I have not read anything to that effect.

[Tomv1750]

@obizin It is possible that Seixas could have written the concerto for f-p, since Scarlatti moved from Spain to Portugal, and we know that Seixas studied with Scarlatti and wrote sonatas in his style. However, there is no documentation that Scarlatti brought a f-p with him from Spain, nor am I familiar with when Christofori f-p's were introduced in Portugal. We have to assume a late date for Seixas' concerto on stylistic grounds, so if a Christofori was present in Lisbon, who knows?

[Tomv1750]

I agree that Seixas has a flair towards the rococo/international classical style of the 1760s, though there are Vivaldian undertones in his style. The style came from Naples and Milan, where Sammartini was active. Seixas' Harpsichord Concerto is fascinating, because it was obviously written prior to his death in 1742, and he had no contact with J.S. Bach's Harpsichord Concerti. He may well have written the first concerto for Harpsichord,instead of J.S. Bach.

[obizin]

@Tomv1750 What's more fascinating is that the f-p was being introduced in Portugal by the time. Cristofori created the fortepiano by 1700 and it was so expensive that only royalty could afford it:"Several were owned by Mª Barbara of Spain before leaving to Spain"which means that most likely Seixas must have composed the 1st concerto for piano - in Portugal the clavichord was much much more common than the harpsichord (only in 1730's did the harpsichord attain popularity-Antunes family)

[Tomv1750]

Zelenka, Vitali, Graun etc. are anything but galant - pure baroque. I agree that Seixas is more forward-looking towards the rococo/international classical style of the 1760s. The style came from Naples and was brought to the rest of Europe through mainly Milan and the activities of among others Sammartini.

[neoclassicalfan1]

adventure all the way makes me think of old pirate movies

[Srabact]

Muito bom !!!

[malcolmcolemann]

Excellentissimo!

[BaroqueMusicOnly]

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[Viahandel06]

Like works from other baroque masters, this one has a...sensual feel. Can't describe it any further.

[Lautengitarre]

Prosit Neujahr 2010.

[gonc43]

Um hino á , verdade de ser Português ,........uma composição fantástica , que nem em Portugal é conhecida ! .Sonoridade imaculada ! Divulguem-na ,...digam aos vossos amigos que existiu um compositor Português que foi capaz de tamanha façanha e nem nas salas de Portugal é divulgado , espalhem , a boa nova nesta época nataliçia ,.........ofereçam musica clássica Portuguesa !

[saudadedefados]

encantador!

[Zaphenath4]

Thank you for posting such beautiful music.

[Kraviotho]

Woow éste músico es sorprendente!!

[AdmiralPrussia]

Actually its emphandsamer which islike baroque except "it comes from the heart"

[alexioco]

what style is this, is it rococo?

[peres010492]

Baroque

[isitvalottioryoung1]

@alexioco

This could certainly be categorized, quite accurately, as rococo, due to it's obvious galant undertones. It is, after all, some the music considered to be prototypical Empfindsamer...

So, yes, rococo is a perfectly good way to think of it.

[Samoriah]

@isitvalottioryoung1

All baroque sinfonias are galant.

[isitvalottioryoung1]

@Samoriah

Really?

Alessandro Scarlatti, Fasch, Zelenka, Torelli, Valentini, Fux, Graun, Vitali, etc... --all galant?

Where are they teaching this bold, new interpretation of history?

[grantco1313]

@isitvalottioryoung1 Yeah, not "quite" gallant for all those earlier composers :-) I would agree though that this piece and others by Pergolesi, Leo etc. probably are more rococo than baroque. But I think a lot of the difference has to do with listening to Italian or Portuguese composers compared to Germans like Bach and Handel.

[RachelPortman]

bello molto

[firebreathone2]

Quite good

[GTXMAN]

amazing

[jprmp]

Obrigado pela publicação de mais esta pequena preciosidade de Seixas.

É deveras lamentável que tantas obras deste nosso grande compositor se tenham perdido irremediavelmente.

:-D