think about this, ok, download some deep bass beats onto a mp3 player and play it through a 200-500watt subwoofer amp thats hooked directly to the hho generator. the power pulses womt overload the electrical system and could ultimately produce more hydrogen than all those time absorbing electrical gizmos?? right?? would this idea work for you?? this is the setup im currently working on. i dont want to post my gen setup yet. but soon enough ;)
Hi Zero, You seem to be getting closer to a system that will save money and gasoline. I just have a couple of questions to help clarify the results. You mention 25 amp continuous on the trip down had produced about 1 liter per minute and achieved 33 mpg. What was the voltage (or better yet, the total watts per hour) consumed by the pwm? Also what is the average mpg of the same vehicle for similar driving conditions without using the cell?
Hey zero, it's been a while since my last comment. Now you know exactly why I have always suggested putting the power terminals of a wet cell design on the bottom of the container beneath the water level at it's minimum level. I had one of those blow up in my face because of an arc(luckily I wasn't killed but it did hurt for about a week). Safety is always more important than efficiency. You of all people should know that but I have a feeling you do. Great work as always. Keep it up.
nice SQ amp zff, thats a rare one and goody too! how do you like it, i always been curious about those (they were just becomming available when i was leaving high school) , i would imagine you must running some sweet sounding components as well.
Good eye. That's an original XTR-450. I have it running 2 ohm stereo @ 100WRMS/ch into 4 XTR-5 coincidental source drivers and 4 ohm bridged mono 200WRMS into an original XTR-10 sub with the ferro-fluid cooled voice coil in a 2.1 cu-ft ported box. Box and sub resonate at 24Hz. -3db @21Hz. Alpine 7800 series head. This system has been in three cars so far and will be in many more before it's retired. I may upgrade the head unit soon though. CDROM are touchy.
So now I know not to run my cell again until I make new "plates" for it.Plates I have were in old cell,two plates are almost touching... Good news is the dbl sided pcb has been shiped, I will be etching digitally controlled PWM,s soon, got 15 pin 90 deg plugs, will be installing them on new boards,11 new tracks. Maybe be talking to DPWM's soon. Gar
P.S. Sounds like you had a little adrinalin going ,eay?
Have you tried using any of these to power a house? Could I convert a generator to run on water and power my home? I know the science is their, I was wondering if you have tried or thought of trying.
did the dry cell heat up on the way back? mine did and i'm using a pump and a cooling system with it now( i posted a video). no pwm, just efie (thanks for the schematics, madscientist!): gained 30% mpg, using only distilled water; any added electrolyte produced more hho and a lot of sludge!!! any advice on that? THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK!
It's garden shed inventors and innovators like these good people who are going to save not only America's ass from disaster, but indeed the world. I salute you.
How is the car stereo amp hooked up and what does it do for the HHO generator? Also where can I find information about the anti-siphon solenoid? Thanks...
The amp has nothing to do with hho. I sacrificed the power from the amp to power the cell. Thee anti-siphon solenoid is self explanatory, available from surplushed*com.
id have to say! ive been folling up on your shematics for the pwm, i got some plane from your friend from chemelec. and its going good, one question, the planes called for a 11volt 5 watt zender diode. i m using a 11volt 1 watt,,, what may happen or not happen by useing a lower watt zener?
Chemelec's version of my design is unauthorized. The zener regulator works only for one fixed voltage input. The 7810 regulator permits a much wider input voltage range. This is why you only want the original. It's all in the details.
From Jarboe's mill huh?...I'll let it go, we had in fact just finished getting that thing wired in just about if not under an hour...I think we were still suffering shell shock from that cell blowing off the top while in the car...what a learning experience. And if I recall that cell was producing over 2Lpm easily, when you turned the system on there was a noticable increase in engine rpm...there's no doubt we would have hit 38 - 40mpg on the trip home z.
think about this, ok, download some deep bass beats onto a mp3 player and play it through a 200-500watt subwoofer amp thats hooked directly to the hho generator. the power pulses womt overload the electrical system and could ultimately produce more hydrogen than all those time absorbing electrical gizmos?? right?? would this idea work for you?? this is the setup im currently working on. i dont want to post my gen setup yet. but soon enough ;)
bikr1975 1 year ago
@bikr1975 I understand that if you hit resonant frequency of the cell you get loads more out.
RavenPrecept 9 months ago
You say this is a "Wal-Mart jar" but isn't it a plastic container? It looks like one in the picture.
jousterusa 3 years ago
he probably means that its a plastic from wal-mart.
sodapop503 2 years ago
Hi Zero, You seem to be getting closer to a system that will save money and gasoline. I just have a couple of questions to help clarify the results. You mention 25 amp continuous on the trip down had produced about 1 liter per minute and achieved 33 mpg. What was the voltage (or better yet, the total watts per hour) consumed by the pwm? Also what is the average mpg of the same vehicle for similar driving conditions without using the cell?
Keep up the good work!
eaglet3d 3 years ago
Hey zero, it's been a while since my last comment. Now you know exactly why I have always suggested putting the power terminals of a wet cell design on the bottom of the container beneath the water level at it's minimum level. I had one of those blow up in my face because of an arc(luckily I wasn't killed but it did hurt for about a week). Safety is always more important than efficiency. You of all people should know that but I have a feeling you do. Great work as always. Keep it up.
flipster12000 3 years ago
nice SQ amp zff, thats a rare one and goody too! how do you like it, i always been curious about those (they were just becomming available when i was leaving high school) , i would imagine you must running some sweet sounding components as well.
PoopinDookey 3 years ago
Good eye. That's an original XTR-450. I have it running 2 ohm stereo @ 100WRMS/ch into 4 XTR-5 coincidental source drivers and 4 ohm bridged mono 200WRMS into an original XTR-10 sub with the ferro-fluid cooled voice coil in a 2.1 cu-ft ported box. Box and sub resonate at 24Hz. -3db @21Hz. Alpine 7800 series head. This system has been in three cars so far and will be in many more before it's retired. I may upgrade the head unit soon though. CDROM are touchy.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
So now I know not to run my cell again until I make new "plates" for it.Plates I have were in old cell,two plates are almost touching... Good news is the dbl sided pcb has been shiped, I will be etching digitally controlled PWM,s soon, got 15 pin 90 deg plugs, will be installing them on new boards,11 new tracks. Maybe be talking to DPWM's soon. Gar
P.S. Sounds like you had a little adrinalin going ,eay?
HHO in tubing = det cord. Gota love HHO
llewgnal 3 years ago
I missed the ustream live from the games but caught it several times on your trip down and up. Would it be possible for you to post that somewhere?
offgrid2010
BTW It was great meeting you both at the games.
offgrid2010 3 years ago
did not have chance to see live feed
hope you will post vid of what went down
let now if any new ideas popped up while you
were there
lostintimeBC 3 years ago
I am sad I missed this, didn't even know about the event. I am here in the St. Pete/Sarasota area of Florida, i'll have to check it out next time.
Mephistofeles420 3 years ago
Have you tried using any of these to power a house? Could I convert a generator to run on water and power my home? I know the science is their, I was wondering if you have tried or thought of trying.
thecoyote 3 years ago
did the dry cell heat up on the way back? mine did and i'm using a pump and a cooling system with it now( i posted a video). no pwm, just efie (thanks for the schematics, madscientist!): gained 30% mpg, using only distilled water; any added electrolyte produced more hho and a lot of sludge!!! any advice on that? THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK!
pgpeachess 3 years ago
It's garden shed inventors and innovators like these good people who are going to save not only America's ass from disaster, but indeed the world. I salute you.
JamesF63 3 years ago
How is the car stereo amp hooked up and what does it do for the HHO generator? Also where can I find information about the anti-siphon solenoid? Thanks...
neorat2007 3 years ago
The amp has nothing to do with hho. I sacrificed the power from the amp to power the cell. Thee anti-siphon solenoid is self explanatory, available from surplushed*com.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
id have to say! ive been folling up on your shematics for the pwm, i got some plane from your friend from chemelec. and its going good, one question, the planes called for a 11volt 5 watt zender diode. i m using a 11volt 1 watt,,, what may happen or not happen by useing a lower watt zener?
XSRtiliry 3 years ago
Chemelec's version of my design is unauthorized. The zener regulator works only for one fixed voltage input. The 7810 regulator permits a much wider input voltage range. This is why you only want the original. It's all in the details.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Good to see that you came home unharmed.
FlashBackKiller 3 years ago
From Jarboe's mill huh?...I'll let it go, we had in fact just finished getting that thing wired in just about if not under an hour...I think we were still suffering shell shock from that cell blowing off the top while in the car...what a learning experience. And if I recall that cell was producing over 2Lpm easily, when you turned the system on there was a noticable increase in engine rpm...there's no doubt we would have hit 38 - 40mpg on the trip home z.
-raptor
rapttor94 3 years ago